As a web designer, privacy policies have more to do with what you do with information submitted to you than anything else. This became a problem because there were those who were taking email addresses, snail mail addresses and selling them as mailing lists. Microsoft did their best to stop this sort of mess a few years ago. As for genealogy, I do not see how we can arbitrarily take it on ourselves to strip out information that we think may be "private" from queries or other submissions. That is the job of the submitter, not us. All I would with it is "attribute" it and post it. . If someone should later complain about it, I would remove it. I guess what I am saying is - "I am not a censor." After all, Genealogy is the research of family information and the more the better. John R. Clarke, CC Morgan and Jefferson County, GA. 2417 N. Patterson St:Thomasville, GA 31792 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Giddeon" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 2:21 AM Subject: Re: [GAGEN] BIZ Privacy Policy > "Personal information" is what was discussed. To me, it matters not if the > information is private or public. Just because information is available > elsewhere does not mean GAGenWeb should also publish it. If the > information is readily available, then there's no need for GAGenWeb to > publish. We can spend our time more wisely by typing data not so easily > accessible on dead ancestors. > > ---Keith > > Joy Fisher wrote: > >>I think you need to distinguish "public information" >>from "private information". For example, there are >>several sources of information (that I can think of) >>that you have not included in your exceptions: >> >>*farm and business directories >>*plat books >>*military rosters >>*phone books >> >>All of these have information about living persons, >>but it is all "public information" - information that >>has been published and is readily available. >> >>In the case of phone books, I do not publish the phone >>numbers, just names and addresses unless the >>information is so old that the phone number is 3 >>digits long -- or "two longs and a short" <grin> >> >>Examples of "Private Information" are things like >>mother's maiden name, social security numbers, date of >>birth and/or marriage, addresses, phone numbers, and >>children's names. >> >>I do not help folks find living people, but refer them >>to the Salvation Army and/or Red Cross. We do not know >>if the seeker is looking to settle a grudge and we do >>not know if the person sought wants to be found. >> >> >> >>--- Michael and Vivian Saffold >><[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>Hello, all, >>> >>>The committee has completed its work on a proposed >>>privacy policy for the GAGenWeb Project. >>> >>>Thanks to chairman Keith Giddeon and members Linda >>>Blum-Barton, Ed Gordon and Liz Nash for their work on this. >>> >>>The proposed policy is cited below, as well as at >>>the following url: >>>http://www.giddeon.com/wilkes/privacy/ >>> >>>Let's have discussion on this for the remainder of >>>the week, and be prepared to vote on Monday, May 2. >>> >>>As always, let's keep the discussion respectful and >>>issue-focused. >>> >>>Thanks, >>> >>>Vivian >>> >>>Final Committee Draft of The GAGenWeb Privacy Policy >>> >>>The GAGenWeb Project is dedicated to the free >>>exchange of genealogical information on the World Wide Web. Our goal is >>>to >>>provide free genealogical information for the family researcher in a >>>manner >>>that will protect the privacy of living persons by not sharing personal >>>information about them without their permission. >>>In order to provide the most protection, some >>>genealogical information may not be available to the researcher. Being >>>aware that >>>the sharing of information online is essential to family history >>>research, and that living persons have a right to privacy, The GAGenWeb >>>Project and the volunteers who make up the Project will abide by the >>>following >>>guidelines when publishing personal information of any person on a >>>Project site. >>> >>>Project Volunteers should: >>> >>>. recognize that the legal right to privacy may >>>limit how information is used on their Web site(s). >>> >>>. never knowingly include information of living >>>persons on their site(s) without that person's prior approval. >>> >>>. provide information, as needed, to contributors on >>>the need to protect the privacy of their living relatives. >>> >>>. ask contributors if permission has been granted by >>>living people for the sharing of personal information about them. >>> >>>. remove any information upon receipt of a request >>>by the person listed at the earliest possible time. >>> >>>Allowable exceptions to this policy are: >>> >>>. Census records -- transcriptions or other >>>facsimiles of U. S. Census Bureau schedules are acceptable for use on >>>Project >>>sites, though a Project volunteer should remove any person's census >>>record >>>upon request by that person. >>> >>>. Marriage records -- transcriptions or other >>>facsimiles of county marriage records are acceptable for use on Project >>>sites, >>>though a Project volunteer may choose a specific cut-off date for their >>>local >>>or special project. A Project volunteer should remove any person's name >>>from a marriage record upon request by that person. >>> >>>. Cemetery surveys -- compiled cemetery headstones >>>are acceptable for use on Project sites, though a Project volunteer >>>should >>>remove any living person's headstone transcription upon request by that >>>person. >>> >>>. Obituaries -- the names of surviving family >>>members, pallbearers, and friends listed in obituaries may be published, >>>if >>>all other personal information (such as place of street address, >>>employer, etc.) on those persons is redacted. >>> >>> >>====================================================================== >> >>> >>> >>>==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== >>>GAGenWeb By-Laws Committee Information Web Site: >>>http://www.rootsweb.com/~gacolqu2/bylaws/ >>> >>> >>> >> >>__________________________________________________ >>Do You Yahoo!? >>Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >>http://mail.yahoo.com >> >>==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== >>GAGenWeb By-Laws Committee Information Web Site: >>http://www.rootsweb.com/~gacolqu2/bylaws/ >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > USGenWeb's motto is - Volunteers dedicated to free, on-line information. > >

Records made available by a state usually require specific information by the requester and a fee for each record. Just because a recordset is made available by a state does not mean we should abandon ehtics and publish them wholly. David W. Morgan wrote: >The legal right to privacy does not trump public records that >are made available by the state. > >David > > >On Mon, 25 Apr 2005, Michael and Vivian Saffold wrote: > > > >>Hello, all, >> >>The committee has completed its work on a proposed privacy policy for the >>GAGenWeb Project. >> >>Thanks to chairman Keith Giddeon and members Linda Blum-Barton, Ed Gordon >>and Liz Nash for their work on this. >> >>The proposed policy is cited below, as well as at the following url: >>http://www.giddeon.com/wilkes/privacy/ >> >>Let's have discussion on this for the remainder of the week, and be >>prepared to vote on Monday, May 2. >> >>As always, let's keep the discussion respectful and issue-focused. >> >>Thanks, >> >>Vivian >> >>Final Committee Draft of The GAGenWeb Privacy Policy >> >>The GAGenWeb Project is dedicated to the free exchange of genealogical >>information on the World Wide Web. Our goal is to provide free genealogical >>information for the family researcher in a manner that will protect the >>privacy of living persons by not sharing personal information about them >>without their permission. >>In order to provide the most protection, some genealogical information may >>not be available to the researcher. Being aware that the sharing of >>information online is essential to family history research, and that living >>persons have a right to privacy, The GAGenWeb Project and the volunteers >>who make up the Project will abide by the following guidelines when >>publishing personal information of any person on a Project site. >> >>Project Volunteers should: >> >>? recognize that the legal right to privacy may limit how information is >>used on their Web site(s). >> >>? never knowingly include information of living persons on their site(s) >>without that person's prior approval. >> >>? provide information, as needed, to contributors on the need to protect >>the privacy of their living relatives. >> >>? ask contributors if permission has been granted by living people for the >>sharing of personal information about them. >> >>? remove any information upon receipt of a request by the person listed at >>the earliest possible time. >> >>Allowable exceptions to this policy are: >> >>? Census records ? transcriptions or other facsimiles of U. S. Census >>Bureau schedules are acceptable for use on Project sites, though a Project >>volunteer should remove any person's census record upon request by that person. >> >>? Marriage records ? transcriptions or other facsimiles of county marriage >>records are acceptable for use on Project sites, though a Project volunteer >>may choose a specific cut-off date for their local or special project. A >>Project volunteer should remove any person's name from a marriage record >>upon request by that person. >> >>? Cemetery surveys ? compiled cemetery headstones are acceptable for use on >>Project sites, though a Project volunteer should remove any living person's >>headstone transcription upon request by that person. >> >>? Obituaries ? the names of surviving family members, pallbearers, and >>friends listed in obituaries may be published, if all other personal >>information (such as place of street address, employer, etc.) on those >>persons is redacted. >>====================================================================== >> >> >> >> >>==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== >>GAGenWeb By-Laws Committee Information Web Site: >>http://www.rootsweb.com/~gacolqu2/bylaws/ >> >> >> > >David W. Morgan [email protected] Honolulu Hawaii >CC Representative, SWSC Region, USGenWeb Project >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dmorgan/ > > > >==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== >Confused about Copyrights? Review USGenWeb's policy on copyrights at: > http://www.usgenweb.org/volunteers/copyright.html > > > > > > >

"Personal information" is what was discussed. To me, it matters not if the information is private or public. Just because information is available elsewhere does not mean GAGenWeb should also publish it. If the information is readily available, then there's no need for GAGenWeb to publish. We can spend our time more wisely by typing data not so easily accessible on dead ancestors. ---Keith Joy Fisher wrote: >I think you need to distinguish "public information" >from "private information". For example, there are >several sources of information (that I can think of) >that you have not included in your exceptions: > >*farm and business directories >*plat books >*military rosters >*phone books > >All of these have information about living persons, >but it is all "public information" - information that >has been published and is readily available. > >In the case of phone books, I do not publish the phone >numbers, just names and addresses unless the >information is so old that the phone number is 3 >digits long -- or "two longs and a short" <grin> > >Examples of "Private Information" are things like >mother's maiden name, social security numbers, date of >birth and/or marriage, addresses, phone numbers, and >children's names. > >I do not help folks find living people, but refer them >to the Salvation Army and/or Red Cross. We do not know >if the seeker is looking to settle a grudge and we do >not know if the person sought wants to be found. > > > >--- Michael and Vivian Saffold ><[email protected]> wrote: > > >>Hello, all, >> >>The committee has completed its work on a proposed >>privacy policy for the >>GAGenWeb Project. >> >>Thanks to chairman Keith Giddeon and members Linda >>Blum-Barton, Ed Gordon >>and Liz Nash for their work on this. >> >>The proposed policy is cited below, as well as at >>the following url: >>http://www.giddeon.com/wilkes/privacy/ >> >>Let's have discussion on this for the remainder of >>the week, and be >>prepared to vote on Monday, May 2. >> >>As always, let's keep the discussion respectful and >>issue-focused. >> >>Thanks, >> >>Vivian >> >>Final Committee Draft of The GAGenWeb Privacy Policy >> >>The GAGenWeb Project is dedicated to the free >>exchange of genealogical >>information on the World Wide Web. Our goal is to >>provide free genealogical >>information for the family researcher in a manner >>that will protect the >>privacy of living persons by not sharing personal >>information about them >>without their permission. >>In order to provide the most protection, some >>genealogical information may >>not be available to the researcher. Being aware that >>the sharing of >>information online is essential to family history >>research, and that living >>persons have a right to privacy, The GAGenWeb >>Project and the volunteers >>who make up the Project will abide by the following >>guidelines when >>publishing personal information of any person on a >>Project site. >> >>Project Volunteers should: >> >>. recognize that the legal right to privacy may >>limit how information is >>used on their Web site(s). >> >>. never knowingly include information of living >>persons on their site(s) >>without that person's prior approval. >> >>. provide information, as needed, to contributors on >>the need to protect >>the privacy of their living relatives. >> >>. ask contributors if permission has been granted by >>living people for the >>sharing of personal information about them. >> >>. remove any information upon receipt of a request >>by the person listed at >>the earliest possible time. >> >>Allowable exceptions to this policy are: >> >>. Census records -- transcriptions or other >>facsimiles of U. S. Census >>Bureau schedules are acceptable for use on Project >>sites, though a Project >>volunteer should remove any person's census record >>upon request by that person. >> >>. Marriage records -- transcriptions or other >>facsimiles of county marriage >>records are acceptable for use on Project sites, >>though a Project volunteer >>may choose a specific cut-off date for their local >>or special project. A >>Project volunteer should remove any person's name >>from a marriage record >>upon request by that person. >> >>. Cemetery surveys -- compiled cemetery headstones >>are acceptable for use on >>Project sites, though a Project volunteer should >>remove any living person's >>headstone transcription upon request by that person. >> >>. Obituaries -- the names of surviving family >>members, pallbearers, and >>friends listed in obituaries may be published, if >>all other personal >>information (such as place of street address, >>employer, etc.) on those >>persons is redacted. >> >> >> >====================================================================== > > >> >> >>==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== >>GAGenWeb By-Laws Committee Information Web Site: >>http://www.rootsweb.com/~gacolqu2/bylaws/ >> >> >> >> > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > > >==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== >GAGenWeb By-Laws Committee Information Web Site: >http://www.rootsweb.com/~gacolqu2/bylaws/ > > > > > > >

> Thanks to chairman Keith Giddeon and members Linda Blum-Barton, Ed Gordon > and Liz Nash for their work on this. It's nice that we always have volunteers to jump in there & get things done. Thanks guys! Bettie <>< -- The shampoo promised me extra body--I gained three pounds.

I think the privacy policy just covers what most of us have been doing anyway. I think it is unnessary, but very nicely written. I do not want a banner on my page. Donna Parrish

Hi Kemis, The banners were created by Bob Franks of Liberty County. Use of the banners is voluntary, not mandatory. I would already have one on Wilkes, but the policy isn't official at this time. I plan on linking the banner to the policy, if passed, on the state website. As far as the policy being understood, yes, it's pretty common sense stuff. However, it is in writing now and, if passed, will show the public we care on this issue. Kemis Massey wrote: >I noticed on the site there was a link that said "Click here for banners." Does that mean we will need to include banners on the county sites? I thought the policy points were already "understood" as that's the way I was trained. It's probably better to spell it out so to cut down on possible confusion. > >kemis >CC Chattahoochee, Clayton, & Muscogee Counties > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Michael and Vivian Saffold >Hello, all, > >The committee has completed its work on a proposed privacy policy for the >GAGenWeb Project. > >Thanks to chairman Keith Giddeon and members Linda Blum-Barton, Ed Gordon >and Liz Nash for their work on this. > >The proposed policy is cited below, as well as at the following url: >http://www.giddeon.com/wilkes/privacy/ > >Let's have discussion on this for the remainder of the week, and be >prepared to vote on Monday, May 2. > >As always, let's keep the discussion respectful and issue-focused. > >Thanks, > >Vivian > >Final Committee Draft of The GAGenWeb Privacy Policy > >The GAGenWeb Project is dedicated to the free exchange of genealogical >information on the World Wide Web. Our goal is to provide free genealogical >information for the family researcher in a manner that will protect the >privacy of living persons by not sharing personal information about them >without their permission. >In order to provide the most protection, some genealogical information may >not be available to the researcher. Being aware that the sharing of >information online is essential to family history research, and that living >persons have a right to privacy, The GAGenWeb Project and the volunteers >who make up the Project will abide by the following guidelines when >publishing personal information of any person on a Project site. > >Project Volunteers should: > >. recognize that the legal right to privacy may limit how information is >used on their Web site(s). > >. never knowingly include information of living persons on their site(s) >without that person's prior approval. > >. provide information, as needed, to contributors on the need to protect >the privacy of their living relatives. > >. ask contributors if permission has been granted by living people for the >sharing of personal information about them. > >. remove any information upon receipt of a request by the person listed at >the earliest possible time. > >Allowable exceptions to this policy are: > >. Census records - transcriptions or other facsimiles of U. S. Census >Bureau schedules are acceptable for use on Project sites, though a Project >volunteer should remove any person's census record upon request by that person. > >. Marriage records - transcriptions or other facsimiles of county marriage >records are acceptable for use on Project sites, though a Project volunteer >may choose a specific cut-off date for their local or special project. A >Project volunteer should remove any person's name from a marriage record >upon request by that person. > >. Cemetery surveys - compiled cemetery headstones are acceptable for use on >Project sites, though a Project volunteer should remove any living person's >headstone transcription upon request by that person. > >. Obituaries - the names of surviving family members, pallbearers, and >friends listed in obituaries may be published, if all other personal >information (such as place of street address, employer, etc.) on those >persons is redacted. > > >==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== >USGenWeb's motto is - Volunteers dedicated to free, on-line information. > > > > > > >

I think you need to distinguish "public information" from "private information". For example, there are several sources of information (that I can think of) that you have not included in your exceptions: *farm and business directories *plat books *military rosters *phone books All of these have information about living persons, but it is all "public information" - information that has been published and is readily available. In the case of phone books, I do not publish the phone numbers, just names and addresses unless the information is so old that the phone number is 3 digits long -- or "two longs and a short" <grin> Examples of "Private Information" are things like mother's maiden name, social security numbers, date of birth and/or marriage, addresses, phone numbers, and children's names. I do not help folks find living people, but refer them to the Salvation Army and/or Red Cross. We do not know if the seeker is looking to settle a grudge and we do not know if the person sought wants to be found. --- Michael and Vivian Saffold <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello, all, > > The committee has completed its work on a proposed > privacy policy for the > GAGenWeb Project. > > Thanks to chairman Keith Giddeon and members Linda > Blum-Barton, Ed Gordon > and Liz Nash for their work on this. > > The proposed policy is cited below, as well as at > the following url: > http://www.giddeon.com/wilkes/privacy/ > > Let's have discussion on this for the remainder of > the week, and be > prepared to vote on Monday, May 2. > > As always, let's keep the discussion respectful and > issue-focused. > > Thanks, > > Vivian > > Final Committee Draft of The GAGenWeb Privacy Policy > > The GAGenWeb Project is dedicated to the free > exchange of genealogical > information on the World Wide Web. Our goal is to > provide free genealogical > information for the family researcher in a manner > that will protect the > privacy of living persons by not sharing personal > information about them > without their permission. > In order to provide the most protection, some > genealogical information may > not be available to the researcher. Being aware that > the sharing of > information online is essential to family history > research, and that living > persons have a right to privacy, The GAGenWeb > Project and the volunteers > who make up the Project will abide by the following > guidelines when > publishing personal information of any person on a > Project site. > > Project Volunteers should: > > � recognize that the legal right to privacy may > limit how information is > used on their Web site(s). > > � never knowingly include information of living > persons on their site(s) > without that person's prior approval. > > � provide information, as needed, to contributors on > the need to protect > the privacy of their living relatives. > > � ask contributors if permission has been granted by > living people for the > sharing of personal information about them. > > � remove any information upon receipt of a request > by the person listed at > the earliest possible time. > > Allowable exceptions to this policy are: > > � Census records � transcriptions or other > facsimiles of U. S. Census > Bureau schedules are acceptable for use on Project > sites, though a Project > volunteer should remove any person's census record > upon request by that person. > > � Marriage records � transcriptions or other > facsimiles of county marriage > records are acceptable for use on Project sites, > though a Project volunteer > may choose a specific cut-off date for their local > or special project. A > Project volunteer should remove any person's name > from a marriage record > upon request by that person. > > � Cemetery surveys � compiled cemetery headstones > are acceptable for use on > Project sites, though a Project volunteer should > remove any living person's > headstone transcription upon request by that person. > > � Obituaries � the names of surviving family > members, pallbearers, and > friends listed in obituaries may be published, if > all other personal > information (such as place of street address, > employer, etc.) on those > persons is redacted. > ====================================================================== > > > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > GAGenWeb By-Laws Committee Information Web Site: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gacolqu2/bylaws/ > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

I noticed on the site there was a link that said "Click here for banners." Does that mean we will need to include banners on the county sites? I thought the policy points were already "understood" as that's the way I was trained. It's probably better to spell it out so to cut down on possible confusion. kemis CC Chattahoochee, Clayton, & Muscogee Counties ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael and Vivian Saffold Hello, all, The committee has completed its work on a proposed privacy policy for the GAGenWeb Project. Thanks to chairman Keith Giddeon and members Linda Blum-Barton, Ed Gordon and Liz Nash for their work on this. The proposed policy is cited below, as well as at the following url: http://www.giddeon.com/wilkes/privacy/ Let's have discussion on this for the remainder of the week, and be prepared to vote on Monday, May 2. As always, let's keep the discussion respectful and issue-focused. Thanks, Vivian Final Committee Draft of The GAGenWeb Privacy Policy The GAGenWeb Project is dedicated to the free exchange of genealogical information on the World Wide Web. Our goal is to provide free genealogical information for the family researcher in a manner that will protect the privacy of living persons by not sharing personal information about them without their permission. In order to provide the most protection, some genealogical information may not be available to the researcher. Being aware that the sharing of information online is essential to family history research, and that living persons have a right to privacy, The GAGenWeb Project and the volunteers who make up the Project will abide by the following guidelines when publishing personal information of any person on a Project site. Project Volunteers should: . recognize that the legal right to privacy may limit how information is used on their Web site(s). . never knowingly include information of living persons on their site(s) without that person's prior approval. . provide information, as needed, to contributors on the need to protect the privacy of their living relatives. . ask contributors if permission has been granted by living people for the sharing of personal information about them. . remove any information upon receipt of a request by the person listed at the earliest possible time. Allowable exceptions to this policy are: . Census records - transcriptions or other facsimiles of U. S. Census Bureau schedules are acceptable for use on Project sites, though a Project volunteer should remove any person's census record upon request by that person. . Marriage records - transcriptions or other facsimiles of county marriage records are acceptable for use on Project sites, though a Project volunteer may choose a specific cut-off date for their local or special project. A Project volunteer should remove any person's name from a marriage record upon request by that person. . Cemetery surveys - compiled cemetery headstones are acceptable for use on Project sites, though a Project volunteer should remove any living person's headstone transcription upon request by that person. . Obituaries - the names of surviving family members, pallbearers, and friends listed in obituaries may be published, if all other personal information (such as place of street address, employer, etc.) on those persons is redacted.

Hello, all, The committee has completed its work on a proposed privacy policy for the GAGenWeb Project. Thanks to chairman Keith Giddeon and members Linda Blum-Barton, Ed Gordon and Liz Nash for their work on this. The proposed policy is cited below, as well as at the following url: http://www.giddeon.com/wilkes/privacy/ Let's have discussion on this for the remainder of the week, and be prepared to vote on Monday, May 2. As always, let's keep the discussion respectful and issue-focused. Thanks, Vivian Final Committee Draft of The GAGenWeb Privacy Policy The GAGenWeb Project is dedicated to the free exchange of genealogical information on the World Wide Web. Our goal is to provide free genealogical information for the family researcher in a manner that will protect the privacy of living persons by not sharing personal information about them without their permission. In order to provide the most protection, some genealogical information may not be available to the researcher. Being aware that the sharing of information online is essential to family history research, and that living persons have a right to privacy, The GAGenWeb Project and the volunteers who make up the Project will abide by the following guidelines when publishing personal information of any person on a Project site. Project Volunteers should: • recognize that the legal right to privacy may limit how information is used on their Web site(s). • never knowingly include information of living persons on their site(s) without that person's prior approval. • provide information, as needed, to contributors on the need to protect the privacy of their living relatives. • ask contributors if permission has been granted by living people for the sharing of personal information about them. • remove any information upon receipt of a request by the person listed at the earliest possible time. Allowable exceptions to this policy are: • Census records — transcriptions or other facsimiles of U. S. Census Bureau schedules are acceptable for use on Project sites, though a Project volunteer should remove any person's census record upon request by that person. • Marriage records — transcriptions or other facsimiles of county marriage records are acceptable for use on Project sites, though a Project volunteer may choose a specific cut-off date for their local or special project. A Project volunteer should remove any person's name from a marriage record upon request by that person. • Cemetery surveys — compiled cemetery headstones are acceptable for use on Project sites, though a Project volunteer should remove any living person's headstone transcription upon request by that person. • Obituaries — the names of surviving family members, pallbearers, and friends listed in obituaries may be published, if all other personal information (such as place of street address, employer, etc.) on those persons is redacted. ======================================================================

The legal right to privacy does not trump public records that are made available by the state. David On Mon, 25 Apr 2005, Michael and Vivian Saffold wrote: > Hello, all, > > The committee has completed its work on a proposed privacy policy for the > GAGenWeb Project. > > Thanks to chairman Keith Giddeon and members Linda Blum-Barton, Ed Gordon > and Liz Nash for their work on this. > > The proposed policy is cited below, as well as at the following url: > http://www.giddeon.com/wilkes/privacy/ > > Let's have discussion on this for the remainder of the week, and be > prepared to vote on Monday, May 2. > > As always, let's keep the discussion respectful and issue-focused. > > Thanks, > > Vivian > > Final Committee Draft of The GAGenWeb Privacy Policy > > The GAGenWeb Project is dedicated to the free exchange of genealogical > information on the World Wide Web. Our goal is to provide free genealogical > information for the family researcher in a manner that will protect the > privacy of living persons by not sharing personal information about them > without their permission. > In order to provide the most protection, some genealogical information may > not be available to the researcher. Being aware that the sharing of > information online is essential to family history research, and that living > persons have a right to privacy, The GAGenWeb Project and the volunteers > who make up the Project will abide by the following guidelines when > publishing personal information of any person on a Project site. > > Project Volunteers should: > > � recognize that the legal right to privacy may limit how information is > used on their Web site(s). > > � never knowingly include information of living persons on their site(s) > without that person's prior approval. > > � provide information, as needed, to contributors on the need to protect > the privacy of their living relatives. > > � ask contributors if permission has been granted by living people for the > sharing of personal information about them. > > � remove any information upon receipt of a request by the person listed at > the earliest possible time. > > Allowable exceptions to this policy are: > > � Census records � transcriptions or other facsimiles of U. S. Census > Bureau schedules are acceptable for use on Project sites, though a Project > volunteer should remove any person's census record upon request by that person. > > � Marriage records � transcriptions or other facsimiles of county marriage > records are acceptable for use on Project sites, though a Project volunteer > may choose a specific cut-off date for their local or special project. A > Project volunteer should remove any person's name from a marriage record > upon request by that person. > > � Cemetery surveys � compiled cemetery headstones are acceptable for use on > Project sites, though a Project volunteer should remove any living person's > headstone transcription upon request by that person. > > � Obituaries � the names of surviving family members, pallbearers, and > friends listed in obituaries may be published, if all other personal > information (such as place of street address, employer, etc.) on those > persons is redacted. > ====================================================================== > > > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > GAGenWeb By-Laws Committee Information Web Site: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gacolqu2/bylaws/ > David W. Morgan [email protected] Honolulu Hawaii CC Representative, SWSC Region, USGenWeb Project http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dmorgan/

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Thanks, Donna, I did some checking and found what it is. I am very leery of putting such information online even though it says that it is secure. I have had several requests to put my information to update someone else's address book. I think I will stick to the old fashioned stubby pencil address book. Liz ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 2:41 PM Subject: Re: [GAGEN] A question > Liz > Go to Google and type in Ringo Address Book in quotes. > Read the comments. Sounds bad to me. > > Donna > > In a message dated 4/24/05 12:24:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > << I know this may not be strictly on topic, but has anyone heard of Ringo > Address Book on line? I have had a couple of people approach me about > this. > > > Liz Nash > County Coordinator, Lincoln County GAGenWeb > www.rootsweb.com/~galincol/ >> > > > ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== > USGenWeb's motto is - Volunteers dedicated to free, on-line information. > >

Liz Go to Google and type in Ringo Address Book in quotes. Read the comments. Sounds bad to me. Donna In a message dated 4/24/05 12:24:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << I know this may not be strictly on topic, but has anyone heard of Ringo Address Book on line? I have had a couple of people approach me about this. Liz Nash County Coordinator, Lincoln County GAGenWeb www.rootsweb.com/~galincol/ >>

I know this may not be strictly on topic, but has anyone heard of Ringo Address Book on line? I have had a couple of people approach me about this. Liz Nash County Coordinator, Lincoln County GAGenWeb www.rootsweb.com/~galincol/

The following email was sent to the CHAMBERS list that I am on. I've forwarded to several of the lists I am on. If you had family who fought and died in the South Pacific. . . keep reading. Happy Family Hunting, kemis massey [email protected] Researching: for hubbie: MASSEY, BROOKS, FOUNTAIN, SMITH for me: SONGER, CAMP, EVANS, ROSAMOND for preservation: CLAPP Cemetery, Community, Factory, and Families - Muscogee County for GAGen Web Project: any info (county, family, history, industry) on Chattahoochee, Clayton and Muscogee Counties, GA Robert W. Chambers of Elkhart County Indiana was killed February 24, 1943, in the South Pacific during World War II. He is buried in the Manila American Cemetery in the Philippines. We are seeking information regarding his military and civilian life. I am a retired Hoosier from Madison County residing in the Philippines with my Filipino wife. We are seeking family and military information about servicemen from your county killed in the South Pacific during World War II. There are 17,206 Americans buried here and thousands more that are missing or buried at sea and are honored on the “Tablets of the Missing”. Please visit our website to see the beautiful memorial located in Manila, Philippines. http://fizkid.tripod.com/ My wife and I visited the cemetery as visitors and left with a mission in our heart. We have been taking photographs of the graves of the Indiana servicemen buried here and have been uniting them (at no charge) with their family members in Indiana and across the United States. To receive the photo of your family member, neighbor or friend all you need is a working email address. We do not send them to regular mailing addresses due to the costs. Please help us find the families of the men that might still be living. Our project is only successful because of teamwork and your contributions are noted on our website. If you wish to help us we will be pleased to add your name to our ACKNOWLEDGMENT page on the website. The obituaries usually did not appear till to three months after the death date. If you are not a genealogist you can help by just picking up the telephone directory and find someone with the same last name and give them a call. It has worked many times for us. [email protected] Sincerely, Dave and Apple Dwiggins San Pablo City, Philippines

>Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 09:07:48 -0600 >X-Original-Sender: [email protected] Sat Apr 16 09:07:47 2005 >From: "Tina S. Vickery" <[email protected]> >Old-To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>, > <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>, > <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>, > <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>, > <[email protected]> >Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 11:03:31 -0400 >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 >X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.38 >To: [email protected] >Resent-From: [email protected] >Reply-To: [email protected] >X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/9680 >X-Loop: [email protected] >Resent-Sender: [email protected] >Subject: [STATE-COORD] USGenWeb Project - Registration Notice > >**Please post to all USGenWeb Project lists** > >In order to receive a voting password for USGenWeb >national level elections and polls you must be >registered with the EC (Election Committee.) To >receive a voting password for the USGenWeb National >Election, you must be registered no later than 31 May, >2005. If you have previously registered and your >registration (i.e., email address, participation >within the project, etc.) has not changed, you do not >need to re-register. If you have questions about your >registration, please contact your Elections Committee >representative prior to submitting a new registration. > >If you were a member of USGenWeb on or before 1 >February 2004 and your name was submitted to the EC by >your State or Project leadership, you were >automatically registered. If you are unsure of your >registration status, you may ask your area EC >Representative, or you may submit a Registration form. > >Members joining USGenWeb or those who have taken on >additional roles will not be automatically registered, >and must register themselves. Example: You were a CC >in a particular state. You resigned that county, and >now have a county in another state. To ensure you >will receive a voting password for that region, you >must inform the EC that you have changed states. > >If you are currently registered but do not wish to >receive a voting password, or if you leave the Project >entirely, please contact an EC Representative to have >your name removed from the Registered List. > >The EC has an online registration form: >http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgwelections/register.html > >To learn who to contact on the EC, go to: >http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgwelections/current.html > >Please bookmark the EC website for the latest Election >and Registration news: >http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgwelections/ > >***Registration information is confidential to the >Election Committee, and will not be shared with >Project leadership or other members. It is used only >to send voting passwords. Do not depend on your SC or >other project leadership to see that you are >registered, or that appropriate changes are made. > >Thank you, >The USGenWeb Election Committee

Here is an article out of todays rootsweb review. Thought that all of us might find it of interest. Deborah Byrd 1b. USING ROOTSWEB: Private Concerns Question. What can I do if I find private information about myself and my living family members published at RootsWeb? Answer. That depends upon the nature of the "private" information and where you have found it. Most information about living individuals is not considered "private" and it is widely accessible. Names, dates, and places are public, not private, information. GEDCOMs (GEnealogical Data COMmunications) submitted to WorldConnect http://wc.rootsweb.com/ are automatically "cleaned" for entries that involve individuals born prior to 1930 -- if there is no information listed in the death field. The submitter of the GEDCOM can elect an earlier date for treating individuals as "living" or can even remove the living individual from a file completely for public display purposes. The 1930 U.S. census is available to the public. Thus anyone appearing in it might appear in someone's posted family tree, even though that individual is only say 76 years young. If you find information about yourself in a WorldConnect family tree file you can contact the submitter at the e-mail address provided on any page of the database and politely request that it be removed from public display. However, unless this information is actually private (LIVING Smith is NOT private) in nature and/or concerns someone born after 1930, it can only be removed through the courtesy of the submitter. RootsWeb does not edit or alter these user-owned and controlled trees. Note: Some genealogy programs allow users to privatize (exclude) certain individuals or data when creating the GEDCOM and prior to submitting it to WorldConnect. However, this approach is not recommended as the data you remove is the very data WorldConnect's filters need to establish whether an individual is to be treated as living or dead. Also, removing data from the raw file you submit to WorldConnect prohibits it from preserving your complete genealogy file to be used by you as a backup should you need to restore lost data on your own computer. If you don't submit it, you can't retrieve it later. Q. I'm concerned about identity theft and worry that if information about my family is found at RootsWeb it could lead to my identity being stolen. A. "Identify theft" has become a buzz word, but it is a misnomer. Actually in most instances it refers to credit card theft and most of that happens offline. A recent survey reported on the Better Business Bureau website indicates that the vast majority of so-called "identity theft" cases involve "paper" theft -- not Internet theft. Even the cases that do involve the Internet are the result of computer viruses, spyware, stolen passwords, and "phishing" scams and are not due to information found on genealogy websites. Genealogy websites do not even represent a blip on the radar of this problem. http://www.bbbonline.org/idtheft/safetyQuiz.asp Q. Banks and credit card companies use my mother's maiden name for identification purposes. Won't having that information available at RootsWeb make it possible for someone to steal my identity? Thieves need more than names to get into your bank account. However, you should not use easily found information for identifiers or passwords for your bank, credit card or other financial account information. If you have previously given your mother's maiden name or your birthdate as an account identifier -- call or visit the bank or other institution where you have the account and change the identifying password to one that is not publicly available. Even if you do not post genealogical information on the Internet, your birthdate and mother's maiden name may be publicly accessible in various places and they should not be used for identification purposes. Heed the advice in these articles: http://www.creditreporting.com/id-theft.html http://www.aarp.org/bulletin/yourlife/Articles/a2004-01-28-8tips.html Safeguard all data which is actually *personal* and should be kept private -- such as your Social Security number, bank account and credit card numbers. Do not include this type of private information in any of your genealogical records -- on or off the Internet. Q. The SSDI (Social Security Death Index) at RootsWeb includes the Social Security numbers of my deceased family members. Won't this put them at risk of having their identities stolen? A. On the contrary, the publishing of the Social Security numbers and names of deceased individuals enables businesses and other interested parties to verify whether or not a Social Security number is active or whether the account holder is deceased. This actually serves to prevent identity theft by publicly posting a list of deceased individuals. Social Security numbers are not re-used. Ever since we saw the first "cries of alarm" over someone stealing your identity because you put your real name on one of your e-mails, Richard Pence, a newspaperman and long-time genealogist, has been challenging the various newsgroups and mailing lists to provide him with authenticated information showing that genealogical information was the underlying cause of an identity theft. No one has seriously tried -- except Pence claims that he did get an e-mail from someone that claimed "that it actually happened to a neighbor of my cousin." Further questioning revealed that that one statement was the extent of the sender's knowledge about the fate of the neighbor. Pence reports, "So, although I have made repeated challenges it is now approaching 20 years and no one has provided a documented case ("documented" meaning verifiable by police or court records) yet." [Editor's note: Richard Allen "Dick" Pence is one of the pioneers of computer genealogy. He was among the first to see the value of personal computers for genealogical recordkeeping and began organizing his records with one of the earliest of these machines in 1978. http://www.pipeline.com/~richardpence/ http://www.pipeline.com/~richardpence/twolongs.htm]

Hi all, The Privacy Committee has begun its work to develop a policy for GAGenWeb. You can follow our discussions at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GRP-CC Anyone wishing to provide input may email any member of the committee. You may also email me and I will forward your comments. Questions about the committee may also be addressed to me. A working draft may be viewed here: http://www.giddeon.com/wilkes/privacy/ (though nothing has been decided at this point. The committee members are: Linda Blum-Barton Ed Gordon Liz Nash Keith Giddeon, Chair Vivian Price Saffold, SC - Ex-officio Have a good week. --Keith

The following counties are now available for adoption: Catoosa Harris Toombs Warren I especially want to thank Barbara Smallwood Stock for her great work on the Harris County site. Family obligations are forcing her to give up the county, although she will retain Pike County. Vivian

>Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:22:43 -0600 >X-Original-Sender: [email protected] Thu Apr 7 17:22:43 2005 >From: "Shari Handley" <[email protected]> >Old-To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>, > <[email protected]> >Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 19:22:14 -0400 >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) >Importance: Normal >X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.38 >To: [email protected] >Resent-From: [email protected] >Reply-To: [email protected] >X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/9668 >X-Loop: [email protected] >Resent-Sender: [email protected] >Subject: [STATE-COORD] To Our SE/MA Volunteers . . . > >Kindly share this message with your state XXGenWeb CC mailing lists . . >. > >It has been brought to our attention that a mailing list has been set up >that some USGenWeb CC's in the SEMA region may believe is an official >list of The USGenWeb Project. This list is named [email protected] > >It is not an official list of The USGenWeb Project and is not endorsed >by The USGenWeb Project. Official announcements for The USGenWeb Project >will not be posted there. > >Instructions for joining the official mailing list for the SEMA Region >of The USGenWeb Project are located on this page >http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/USGenWeb/USGenWeb-SE.html > >Instructions for joining the discuss mailing list for the entire >USGenWeb Project are located on this page >http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/USGenWeb/USGENWEB-DISCUSS.html > >If you have any questions or concerns, please contact your SEMA >Representatives on the Advisory Board. > >Angie Rayfield, SEMA SC Rep [email protected] >Denise Woodisde, SEMA CC Rep [email protected] >Linda Blum-Barton, SEMA CC Rep [email protected] > >Shari Handley, National Coordinator