In a message dated 4/18/01 7:06:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time, AnnBoutwel@aol.com writes: > So it remains a mystery > when the term Five Points was first used in Atlanta History. Ann, I don't believe it could have been called Five Points until after they built the streets up over the railroads creating the point. It doesn't appear to be there on the 1886 map. I believe they did that about the late 1890's. However, I can't find an appropriate reference. Five Points was very clearly defined in 1957 when I worked at Fulton Bag and Cotton Mill and ran up there on my lunch hour to shop. Franklin Garrett and I never discussed that. Because of my cemetery book we spent our conversation time discussing cemeteries. Although we did have a lively discussion over when they tore down the arches at the entrance to what is now Peachtree DeKalb Airport. If I find an appropriate map or reference, I will post it. Donna

Was your grandfather Thomas P. Fleming? Ann in Atlanta

Although I went several years in the 70s to Peachtree Sr. High; When calling them for reunions, they told me there are none and that the school is a junior high! I know of one website by a former student. What happen to change the school,and how do we find out what happen to folks? Steven Piper class of 75'

Five Points today is where Marietta, Decatur, Peachtree, Edgewood come together. Years ago the southern section of Peachtree was called Whitehall Street--thus 5 points. Now the question is when was this section first called Five Points. I have checked with the Atlanta Public Library and the Atlanta History Center and neither has found exactly when Five Points was called Five Points. The late Atlanta Historian Franklin Garrett once remarked that the only historical error Margaret Mitchell made in her Gone with the Wind was using the term Five Points at the time of the Civil War. So it remains a mystery when the term Five Points was first used in Atlanta History. Ann in Atlanta

If you go to http://www.accessatlanta.com/partners/ajc/photos/ Right now they have a picture of Five Points in 1907 with Peachtee Street under it. If they have changed the picture go down in the column under the Galleries and click on Peachtree Street.

This is an Atlanta Map. from 1886 http://www.libs.uga.edu/darchive/hargrett/maps/1886d3.jpg 5 Points was the downtown center of Atlanta where the 5 major thoroughfares intersected. http://www.cnn.com/TRAVEL/CITY.GUIDES/US/georgia/atlanta.html If you look at this map and look at the black rectangle (Marta Station) marked Five Points. Where the five streets intersect under the words, that is Five Points.

Hi, Thanks for the information on 5 points. It has certainly changed sind Grandfather Fleming stood on his front porch!! Thanks. Lillian ----- Original Message ----- From: <MFLP@aol.com> To: <GAFULTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 8:07 PM Subject: [GAFULTON] Atlanta Map > This is an Atlanta Map. from 1886 > http://www.libs.uga.edu/darchive/hargrett/maps/1886d3.jpg > > 5 Points was the downtown center of Atlanta where the 5 major thoroughfares > intersected. > http://www.cnn.com/TRAVEL/CITY.GUIDES/US/georgia/atlanta.html > If you look at this map and look at the black rectangle (Marta Station) > marked Five Points. Where the five streets intersect under the words, that is > Five Points. > > > ==== GAFULTON Mailing List ==== > Tu subscribe type subscribe in the subject and body and nothing else. > Email to: GAFULTON-L-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > >

Yes, to both Harris and Hogue. Harris is downtown. Starts at Centenial Olympic Park--use to be around the Luckie Street area and extended to Bedford Place on my 1934 city map. Hogue Street is in the Sweet Auburn, MLK Historic District. It is near Old Wheat Street. Ann in Atlanta

Thank you Ann! Sharon RESEARCHING AFRI-AMERICANS: ROME & ATLANTA,GA. -(GGF) LAFAYETTE "FATE" DAVIE & DESCENDS./DAVIS SUMTER,SC -ST.AUGUSTINES CH.& CEM.:RAGINS,RAGIN,MITCHELL & DESCENDS.

Dear Ann, I have alwayse been interested in a story that my grandfather told about his life in Atlanta, Ga. He said he was standing on the front poarch of his home at "5 points" when the invading army entered Atlanta. He said that the family was afraid and left for the hills where they stayed in a cave. He remembers meeting some Yanksees outside the cave. They offered him some candy. When he told his parents where he got the candy he was spanked!! My question to you is where is "5 points"? Not a very important question but one that I have been curious about. Thanks, Lillian ----- Original Message ----- From: <AnnBoutwel@aol.com> To: <GAFULTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 4:27 PM Subject: Re: [GAFULTON] Streets > Yes, to both Harris and Hogue. Harris is downtown. Starts at Centenial > Olympic Park--use to be around the Luckie Street area and extended to Bedford > Place on my 1934 city map. > > Hogue Street is in the Sweet Auburn, MLK Historic District. It is near Old > Wheat Street. > > Ann in Atlanta > > > > > ==== GAFULTON Mailing List ==== > Information about the GAFULTON mail list > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/GA/fulton.html > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library > >

Hi List, Could someone tell me if the streets Harris and Hogue are in Fulton County? Thanks Sharon RESEARCHING AFRI-AMERICANS: ROME & ATLANTA,GA. -(GGF) LAFAYETTE "FATE" DAVIE & DESCENDS./DAVIS SUMTER,SC -ST.AUGUSTINES CH.& CEM.:RAGINS,RAGIN,MITCHELL & DESCENDS.

Annie BELL & Joseph J. KELL(e)Y were married March 28, 1907 in Fulton County, GA by D. A. Cook, D.O. (or D.P. copy hard to read). Where did the couple live, 1907 - 1908? Who were her parents? (Mother was reportedly known as "Mrs. M. A. Bell") Any record of the birth of Joseph & Annie's daughter, Annie Lenora Kelly (2/10/1908)? Annie Bell Kelly died when the daughter was born; any clue about her death or burial? ANY clues would be deeply appreciated! Fran in Ohio tbay@columbus.rr.com

Does anyone know if Greenwood Cemetery in Fulton Co. is on-line? Also, has anyone ever heard of a J. Austin Dillon (?) Funeral Home in Atlanta? Mary Anne

Brenda, Thank you for this! Steven B & C Pierce wrote: > I have placed this in red on the Fulton site in hopes that more people will > see it than just on the list. > > Brenda > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "S.K Bramlett" <amac1@bellsouth.net> > To: <GAFULTON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 4:02 PM > Subject: [GAFULTON] Please come and help us save our cemetery!!! > > Hill Crest Cemetery East Point, Ga. > next to the Langford Hwy. 166 On Stanton Rd at the stanton rd exit. > > PLEASE COME AND HELP US PRESERVE THIS CEMETERY FOR FUTURE GENEALOGISTS. > YOUR HELP IS DESPERATELY NEEDED. > Hill Crest Cemetery East Point, Ga. > next to the Langford Hwy. 166 On Stanton Rd at the stanton rd exit. > > Clean up and Transcription Project. > SATURDAY APRIL 21, 2001 at 8:00 a.m. > Hosted by family and Friends of Hill Crest Cemetery. > > We REALLY need the genealogical community to come and help us if you > have family there or not, you will be helping to RESTORE THE DIGNITY!!! > Cleanup of weeds and massive over growth. > > Those who plan to come and help us save this VERY LARGE cemetery need to > email or call so we can get a head count. Transcription volunteers are > needed for this day as well to get this VERY LARGE transcription > underway. Call 404-762-0940 0r email amac1@bellsouth.net (that's Amac > one) > > A little about the cemetery so you will know how important your > involvement will be. > Hill Crest was a fine cemetery in its heyday with a main section set off > with two circular side section and a newer bronze section across the > road. The main and oldest portion runs slightly over 3 blocks long for > Connally drive to Hwy. 166. > > Hill Crest started going down hill in 1963 when the last owner took it > over from her family. The money from burials and sales was squandered , > the cemetery forgotten about and allowed to wash away and grow over. > > Many Veterans lay to rest here as well as some of the oldest families > that settled the area. Some section are totally grown over including a > section in such a state of neglected it is called "The UnderWorld. > > We call upon the Genealogist to come, bring your family and tools to > help cut this massive project back and show those that have abandoned > these hallowed ground that we will not allow them to let our history and > heritage pass from memory and to let them know we will fight tooth and > nail to preserve those that paved the way for the rest of us. > > I was out cleaning today and met another family member of the cemetery > who was 92 years old and running a weed wacker like a pro....if he can > do it then some of us young bucks surely can! > > PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Notify us by email or phone (404-762-0940) if you > will come help us. > > Steven K. Bramlett > Family and Friends of Hill Crest Cemetery > (Also a genealogist) > > ==== GAFULTON Mailing List ==== > To search the GAFULTON Mail List Go here > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=GAFULTON > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > > ==== GAFULTON Mailing List ==== > Information about the GAFULTON mail list > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/GA/fulton.html > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query!

I have placed this in red on the Fulton site in hopes that more people will see it than just on the list. Brenda ----- Original Message ----- From: "S.K Bramlett" <amac1@bellsouth.net> To: <GAFULTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 4:02 PM Subject: [GAFULTON] Please come and help us save our cemetery!!! Hill Crest Cemetery East Point, Ga. next to the Langford Hwy. 166 On Stanton Rd at the stanton rd exit. PLEASE COME AND HELP US PRESERVE THIS CEMETERY FOR FUTURE GENEALOGISTS. YOUR HELP IS DESPERATELY NEEDED. Hill Crest Cemetery East Point, Ga. next to the Langford Hwy. 166 On Stanton Rd at the stanton rd exit. Clean up and Transcription Project. SATURDAY APRIL 21, 2001 at 8:00 a.m. Hosted by family and Friends of Hill Crest Cemetery. We REALLY need the genealogical community to come and help us if you have family there or not, you will be helping to RESTORE THE DIGNITY!!! Cleanup of weeds and massive over growth. Those who plan to come and help us save this VERY LARGE cemetery need to email or call so we can get a head count. Transcription volunteers are needed for this day as well to get this VERY LARGE transcription underway. Call 404-762-0940 0r email amac1@bellsouth.net (that's Amac one) A little about the cemetery so you will know how important your involvement will be. Hill Crest was a fine cemetery in its heyday with a main section set off with two circular side section and a newer bronze section across the road. The main and oldest portion runs slightly over 3 blocks long for Connally drive to Hwy. 166. Hill Crest started going down hill in 1963 when the last owner took it over from her family. The money from burials and sales was squandered , the cemetery forgotten about and allowed to wash away and grow over. Many Veterans lay to rest here as well as some of the oldest families that settled the area. Some section are totally grown over including a section in such a state of neglected it is called "The UnderWorld. We call upon the Genealogist to come, bring your family and tools to help cut this massive project back and show those that have abandoned these hallowed ground that we will not allow them to let our history and heritage pass from memory and to let them know we will fight tooth and nail to preserve those that paved the way for the rest of us. I was out cleaning today and met another family member of the cemetery who was 92 years old and running a weed wacker like a pro....if he can do it then some of us young bucks surely can! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Notify us by email or phone (404-762-0940) if you will come help us. Steven K. Bramlett Family and Friends of Hill Crest Cemetery (Also a genealogist) ==== GAFULTON Mailing List ==== To search the GAFULTON Mail List Go here http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=GAFULTON ============================== Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 Source for Family History Online. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

Hill Crest Cemetery East Point, Ga. next to the Langford Hwy. 166 On Stanton Rd at the stanton rd exit. PLEASE COME AND HELP US PRESERVE THIS CEMETERY FOR FUTURE GENEALOGISTS. YOUR HELP IS DESPERATELY NEEDED. Hill Crest Cemetery East Point, Ga. next to the Langford Hwy. 166 On Stanton Rd at the stanton rd exit. Clean up and Transcription Project. SATURDAY APRIL 21, 2001 at 8:00 a.m. Hosted by family and Friends of Hill Crest Cemetery. We REALLY need the genealogical community to come and help us if you have family there or not, you will be helping to RESTORE THE DIGNITY!!! Cleanup of weeds and massive over growth. Those who plan to come and help us save this VERY LARGE cemetery need to email or call so we can get a head count. Transcription volunteers are needed for this day as well to get this VERY LARGE transcription underway. Call 404-762-0940 0r email amac1@bellsouth.net (that's Amac one) A little about the cemetery so you will know how important your involvement will be. Hill Crest was a fine cemetery in its heyday with a main section set off with two circular side section and a newer bronze section across the road. The main and oldest portion runs slightly over 3 blocks long for Connally drive to Hwy. 166. Hill Crest started going down hill in 1963 when the last owner took it over from her family. The money from burials and sales was squandered , the cemetery forgotten about and allowed to wash away and grow over. Many Veterans lay to rest here as well as some of the oldest families that settled the area. Some section are totally grown over including a section in such a state of neglected it is called "The UnderWorld. We call upon the Genealogist to come, bring your family and tools to help cut this massive project back and show those that have abandoned these hallowed ground that we will not allow them to let our history and heritage pass from memory and to let them know we will fight tooth and nail to preserve those that paved the way for the rest of us. I was out cleaning today and met another family member of the cemetery who was 92 years old and running a weed wacker like a pro....if he can do it then some of us young bucks surely can! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Notify us by email or phone (404-762-0940) if you will come help us. Steven K. Bramlett Family and Friends of Hill Crest Cemetery (Also a genealogist)

Hi All, I'm new to the list and having a hard time find the following family. This is the info I have so far. Any help would be appreciated as far as dates, where they are buried, census data, children or anything. I have been unable to find them in census records since they seem to move so frequently. James L. DRIVER supposedly the son of Giles Driver Jr. was married 1st to Emma Scott and they had several children. b October 03, 1847 in Pike county, GA d October 31, 1939 in Hapeville, Fulton county, GA m after 1889 2nd Rosa Alice KENNEDY dau of John Robert Kennedy & Laura Cuthrell b abt 1858 Brunswick county, VA d 1932 Fulton county, GA Laura STILWELL dau of Callie Kennedy (sister to Rosa) & William Ross Stilwell b October 24, 1901 probably in Coweta county, GA d abt 1981 was living in Hapeville, Fulton county, GA in 1975 married Unknown EMANUEL Laura was raised by Rosa and James Driver after the death of her parents in 1906 & 1907. W. R. Stilwell was a Methodist minister in the Butts county, GA area. Anyone that can help please email me. Thanks, Linda Doyle India425@aol.com

Where would I write to get copies of divorce records for the 1890s and early 1900s in Atlanta, Fulton County, Georgia? Glenn B. Ray dlrgbr@aol.com 5982 Quailridge Avenue Callahan, FL 32011

Back in the 1970s at Peachtree I went there. I'm looking for my other compatriots. Debbie Baker Bret Peterson Kent Peterson frank Dollar Miles McSweeny Albert Singleton Thank you, Steven piper

Thanks you Fulton County list members for your suggestions on where to look for my relative who died in Atlanta during the Civil War. You have all been great to answer me. Marcene