Thomas Crews lived in the Franklin Co area as early as 1785 and moved from there about 1808 to Smith Co, Tennessee. A DAVID CREWS lived there at the same time and sold his land about 1808 but where did he go? Thomas Crews of Smith Co, Tenn gave his "friend" JAMES SMITH a Power or Attorney in Franklin Co to sell some land for him in 1809. Was James Smith related to him in any way? Also, Richard Cockerham bought Thomas Crews land in Franklin Co - was he related to him in any way?

I would like to get in touch with Darrell Ertzberger in Richmond, VA, who is also a descendant of John Robinson Smith of Franklin County. Please email me at barhamj@earthlink.net so we can exchange information. Thanks.

Bob, I am the person that was requesting that information. I do have the copy of "The History of Hart County" and will look into churches listed there. I understand Moses Sanders started the Nails Creek Church and please correct me if I'm wrong. I'm waiting on information from MERCER UNIVERSITY about some of that information and about some of the churches. I've been told by several that at first, most meetings/services were held in "meeting houses" and that the churches came later or should I say, they were built later. My focus is on ANY COUNTY that was once a part of WILKES,FRANKLIN, ELBERT or HART CO, GEORGIA and any MEETING HOUSES or FIRST CHURCHES, in these areas of GEORGIA. Thank you for sending me this information and to all of you that have done so off the list. Please feel free to post anything you might know or think you know onto the list as others may be looking for the same thing. If not, feel free to email me directly. No problem to me either way. Again, thanks to everyone. Warmest Regards, Gale Sanders ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Robert B. Laughon" <BLaughon@compuserve.com> To: GAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [GAFRANKL] Churches Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 09:54:36 -0500 Someone inquired about the oldest Baptist churches in Franklin, Hart, and a couple of other Georgia counties. Nails Creek Baptist Church was established on 11 Feb 1787 at Joseph Nail's trading post on the upper waters of Nails Creek, then in Franklin County but now in Banks County. That's pretty old, and only three years younger than the county itself. There may be older churches, however, since Franklin County was originally as large as present-day Rhode Island and has given up land to many other "daughter" counties, including two or three now in South Carolina. The book "History of Franklin County, Georgia" has articles about many of the churches, at least in present-day Franklin County, including lists of ministers who served early, but might not include churches that are now in other counties, especially those in South Carolina. There is a similar book "History of Hart County, Georgia" that I have seen but am less familiar with. I don't have a personal copy of either, or I would look the information up for you. These books are pretty widely distributed, however. Bob blaughon@compuserve.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Someone inquired about the oldest Baptist churches in Franklin, Hart, and a couple of other Georgia counties. Nails Creek Baptist Church was established on 11 Feb 1787 at Joseph Nail's trading post on the upper waters of Nails Creek, then in Franklin County but now in Banks County. That's pretty old, and only three years younger than the county itself. There may be older churches, however, since Franklin County was originally as large as present-day Rhode Island and has given up land to many other "daughter" counties, including two or three now in South Carolina. The book "History of Franklin County, Georgia" has articles about many of the churches, at least in present-day Franklin County, including lists of ministers who served early, but might not include churches that are now in other counties, especially those in South Carolina. There is a similar book "History of Hart County, Georgia" that I have seen but am less familiar with. I don't have a personal copy of either, or I would look the information up for you. These books are pretty widely distributed, however. Bob blaughon@compuserve.com

Gale - I saw the following today while following a Shirley connection: Shoal Creek Baptist Church is the oldest church in Hart Co. GA, being organized before 1798. The name SHIRLEY is listed among the names of those who formerly composted the membership. Unfortunately, the church burned down to the ground in the 1980's. They were unable to save anything but the bricks that were around the name plate. The bricks were given to the church members to remember the old building. ==================================================================== . You might want to look at this site: http://www.shirleyassociation.com/hart_co_ga.htm That's where this information came from. I'm looking for burial place of Jonathan Pearman and his family. Jonathan's mother was a Shirley. Of particular interest is his daughter Letitia Amanda Pearman, who married John Guest and went back home to live in the Johathan Pearman household (in Hart County - Shoal Creek area) after her husband John died in Civil War. Letty Amanda and her young son William are on the 1870 Hart County census living with Jonathan, but she disappears after that....probably buried in the Shoal Creek area, but I've not been able to verify this. Please keep me in mind if you see anything on this line. Thanks, Marian Guest Pfenning ----- Original Message ----- From: Gale Sanders <lgalesanders@hotmail.com> To: <GAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 2:42 PM Subject: [GAFRANKL] Earliest Churches > > First of all, I am sending this query to several lists. I apologize now > for any inconvenience you may have due to the fact that you are on several > mailing lists and get duplicates of the following. > > Secondly, I need some help. > > I need to know the earliest churches that were in the WILKES CO, FRANKLIN > CO, ELBERT CO, and HART CO, GEORGIA. If you know the names but nothing > else, please let me know. If you only know the churches for one area, > please feel free to email me. My goal is to get the names and to find when > each of them came into exsistance. > > I am talking about the very first churches in each of these counties. Maybe > some historians are reading this, and I would love to hear from you. If you > know of some reference books with this information, I would like to know > that also. Thanks so much. > > Gale Sanders > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >

Hey folks, a post I just received made me realize that I didn't specify which CHURCHES I was looking for. Since the ancestors that I AM aware of were all of the BAPTIST faith or they were BAPTIST preachers/ministers, I would think that those are the CHURCHES that I would be most interested in, at this point. Sorry for the omission on the previous post. Thanks again, Gale Sanders _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

First of all, I am sending this query to several lists. I apologize now for any inconvenience you may have due to the fact that you are on several mailing lists and get duplicates of the following. Secondly, I need some help. I need to know the earliest churches that were in the WILKES CO, FRANKLIN CO, ELBERT CO, and HART CO, GEORGIA. If you know the names but nothing else, please let me know. If you only know the churches for one area, please feel free to email me. My goal is to get the names and to find when each of them came into exsistance. I am talking about the very first churches in each of these counties. Maybe some historians are reading this, and I would love to hear from you. If you know of some reference books with this information, I would like to know that also. Thanks so much. Gale Sanders _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Looking for information on Athlena Langston, shown in the 1850 census of Franklin Co. as the fifteen-year old daughter of Elisha & Martha [Neal] Langston. I am trying to document her marriage. Will appreciate any leads. Bob

please reply to "Nancy Barginear" pawbark@samlink.com Subject: Amanda Williams Hi, My great-grandmother, Amanda Williams (married to John Munroe Dick) was born in Carnesville, Georgia August 20, 1831. Several of her descendants, including me, have been doing some genealogical research, and I ran across your website today. I hope to visit Carnesville sometime in this year, as I really enjoy visiting places where my ancestors lived. If you know of any resources that might help me to locate her original home, I would really appreciate that very much. Nice website! Nancy Barginear _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Hello, I'm posting again (to lists it might have happened on) in case my subject line wasn't clear enough the first time. Someone on the lists, I'm hoping it was this one, had an ancester that I think lived in FLORDIA. She was not able to get out and do any lookups. If you are that person, please email me again. If I remember correctly, you were wondering where that ancestor was born? Doesn't matter, if you and I talked, and I told you I would do something, just email me :) Thanks, Gale Sanders TEXAS _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

In a message dated 2/28/01 2:01:05 AM Pacific Standard Time, GAFRANKL-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > A cousin just did a project like this on hte Rogers Familes, over 200, 000 people and events. Family Tree Maker does have one problem you can only make a file up to 500 MB. That is is limit. While this is plenty of room for most people, it is not enough for a projest like you are talking about. I would use Legacy. It had no limits and works well with all gedcoms. The basic program is free to download , which is a great. Joyce Joyce Amberson Rogers Florence, Alabama Flying60@aol.com Researching the following Surnames: Amberson, Ayers, Ganey, Gober, Gilley, Gassaway, Hardwick/ Hartwick, Hill, King, Pendergrass, Randolph, Roberson, Rogers, Stewart, Thomason, Ward, Westbrook

charles, Sounds like a good idea but it is a big job. I have over 8000 names and most connect to Franklin Co. but I don't have a rewriter or large harddrive. You are welcome to use my gedcom. Part of mine is on OPD too. > Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:08:53 -0500 > From: "Bonedigger" <bonedigr@concentric.net> > To: GAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [GAFRANKL] Testing the Waters "consolidated GEDCOM" > > Many folks are aware of the Old Pendleton District consolidated > GEDCOM File containing probably 300000 people or more. > I am wondering if there is enough interest out there for a similar > project for the Franklin County area. > What they do is have folks contribute their gedcom files then they > consolifdate them and make them available for download to whomever > wants a copy. then after they got so huge that the d/l process took > a long time they made CDROMs and sold them at about cost for > duplication and mailing, around $10 I think, just enough to make it > come out even. I don't have a CD Rewrite capability but I suspect > somebody reading this does have and would be willing to make the > CDs. > I just did a sample project to see what would happen [on Family > Tree Maker 5.0] and I believe it worked well. I took Franklin Co > Smiths file I had and merged it with the Fr. co Ayers file I had > and with original files of 8000 and 2000 people I ended up with a > file of more than 10000 people. > I don't know how much hard drive it would take to do such a project > and how much help I would need to do this but I am willing to start > it and see what results. I have only a 6 gig hard drive with 128 > megs of memory. > Are there others WILLING to contribute, WILLING to review and act > as editors for each increment as we build such a huge gedcom file. > Editing is mandatory to view the results of a merge of files to > remove or reconcile similar or duplicate individuals. I feel quite > sure Mr. David Stephenson, the Fr. Co. Website coordinator would > give us prominent advertising on the web page, right David? > First I want to say that I am the kind of guy who shares, anytime > you ask me for information I will gladly share and these are the > type folks I am hoping to enlist for this project. > Shown above are the files I now have that COULD constitute the > nucleus of the gedcom [I have a lot more but they are all smaller > files] but I welcome any LARGE CONTRIBUTOR who believes he has a > larger file to become the nucleus. I think the larger file the > better for the first increment upon which we build the overall > file. I have other files but of smaller variety. Please let me know > what you think of the possibilities of this project, I will not > start it unless I hear from some key players [genealogists] in the > Fr. Co Community and receive a thumbs up on participation to make > it a success. This is certainly not a go-it-alone project for > anyone; contributions are mandatory and we will have to throw out > that ole jealousness that makes us want to hide what we have > accomplished for some UNKNOWN reason for a later time. If we start > this project we will need the info now. then it will be available > to ANYBODY who wants it. That way we will have helped our fellow > man honor his fat! > hers and mothers as we are supposed to do. > We can swap files back and forth using gedcom attachments to email. > Or via snail mail diskettes. > Please get back to me with your comments, questions, pledges of > contributions or whatever you want to say to me. > Charles > ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] > Don't worry bout me. I'm as organized as a henhouse full of chikens > jus don't expect perfexion. ===== Thanks, David S. Payne View my Gedcoms at: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=otime My Wife's line: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=cateel Searching for surnames mostly in Upstate SC/GA: ADDISON, ALLISON, ARENDALE/ARENDELL/ARENDALL, CANADY, CORBIN, COX, CRAIG, DEAN, FOWLER, GILLILAN, HALEY, GORDON, GRAY, HENSON, JAMES, McMILLIAN, McPHERSON, MOODY, NEWTON, PARKER, PASSMORE, PATTERSON, PAYNE, POINDEXTER, REDWINE, REID, ROY, SHIRES, SWANN, WEST, TODD, WHITMIRE, WOODALL __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

Hello fellow Franklin Co GA researchers: I have a FTM file of several hundred CARNES and related familiies of Franklin Co GA (1800 - )and I would be happy to contribute. Paulette Willis Dunn Douglasville, GA At 10:08 AM 02/27/2001 -0500, Bonedigger wrote: >Many folks are aware of the Old Pendleton District consolidated GEDCOM File containing probably 300000 people or more. >I am wondering if there is enough interest out there for a similar project for the Franklin County area. >What they do is have folks contribute their gedcom files then they consolifdate them and make them available for download to whomever wants a copy. then after they got so huge that the d/l process took a long time they made CDROMs and sold them at about cost for duplication and mailing, around $10 I think, just enough to make it come out even. I don't have a CD Rewrite capability but I suspect somebody reading this does have and would be willing to make the CDs. >I just did a sample project to see what would happen [on Family Tree Maker 5.0] and I believe it worked well. I took Franklin Co Smiths file I had and merged it with the Fr. co Ayers file I had and with original files of 8000 and 2000 people I ended up with a file of more than 10000 people. >I don't know how much hard drive it would take to do such a project and how much help I would need to do this but I am willing to start it and see what results. I have only a 6 gig hard drive with 128 megs of memory. >Are there others WILLING to contribute, WILLING to review and act as editors for each increment as we build such a huge gedcom file. Editing is mandatory to view the results of a merge of files to remove or reconcile similar or duplicate individuals. I feel quite sure Mr. David Stephenson, the Fr. Co. Website coordinator would give us prominent advertising on the web page, right David? >First I want to say that I am the kind of guy who shares, anytime you ask me for information I will gladly share and these are the type folks I am hoping to enlist for this project. >Shown above are the files I now have that COULD constitute the nucleus of the gedcom [I have a lot more but they are all smaller files] but I welcome any LARGE CONTRIBUTOR who believes he has a larger file to become the nucleus. I think the larger file the better for the first increment upon which we build the overall file. I have other files but of smaller variety. Please let me know what you think of the possibilities of this project, I will not start it unless I hear from some key players [genealogists] in the Fr. Co Community and receive a thumbs up on participation to make it a success. This is certainly not a go-it-alone project for anyone; contributions are mandatory and we will have to throw out that ole jealousness that makes us want to hide what we have accomplished for some UNKNOWN reason for a later time. If we start this project we will need the info now. then it will be available to ANYBODY who wants it. That way we will have helped our fellow man honor his fat! >hers and mothers as we are supposed to do. >We can swap files back and forth using gedcom attachments to email. Or via snail mail diskettes. >Please get back to me with your comments, questions, pledges of contributions or whatever you want to say to me. >Charles >]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] >Don't worry bout me. I'm as organized as a henhouse full of chikens jus don't expect perfexion. > >

Many folks are aware of the Old Pendleton District consolidated GEDCOM File containing probably 300000 people or more. I am wondering if there is enough interest out there for a similar project for the Franklin County area. What they do is have folks contribute their gedcom files then they consolifdate them and make them available for download to whomever wants a copy. then after they got so huge that the d/l process took a long time they made CDROMs and sold them at about cost for duplication and mailing, around $10 I think, just enough to make it come out even. I don't have a CD Rewrite capability but I suspect somebody reading this does have and would be willing to make the CDs. I just did a sample project to see what would happen [on Family Tree Maker 5.0] and I believe it worked well. I took Franklin Co Smiths file I had and merged it with the Fr. co Ayers file I had and with original files of 8000 and 2000 people I ended up with a file of more than 10000 people. I don't know how much hard drive it would take to do such a project and how much help I would need to do this but I am willing to start it and see what results. I have only a 6 gig hard drive with 128 megs of memory. Are there others WILLING to contribute, WILLING to review and act as editors for each increment as we build such a huge gedcom file. Editing is mandatory to view the results of a merge of files to remove or reconcile similar or duplicate individuals. I feel quite sure Mr. David Stephenson, the Fr. Co. Website coordinator would give us prominent advertising on the web page, right David? First I want to say that I am the kind of guy who shares, anytime you ask me for information I will gladly share and these are the type folks I am hoping to enlist for this project. Shown above are the files I now have that COULD constitute the nucleus of the gedcom [I have a lot more but they are all smaller files] but I welcome any LARGE CONTRIBUTOR who believes he has a larger file to become the nucleus. I think the larger file the better for the first increment upon which we build the overall file. I have other files but of smaller variety. Please let me know what you think of the possibilities of this project, I will not start it unless I hear from some key players [genealogists] in the Fr. Co Community and receive a thumbs up on participation to make it a success. This is certainly not a go-it-alone project for anyone; contributions are mandatory and we will have to throw out that ole jealousness that makes us want to hide what we have accomplished for some UNKNOWN reason for a later time. If we start this project we will need the info now. then it will be available to ANYBODY who wants it. That way we will have helped our fellow man honor his fat! hers and mothers as we are supposed to do. We can swap files back and forth using gedcom attachments to email. Or via snail mail diskettes. Please get back to me with your comments, questions, pledges of contributions or whatever you want to say to me. Charles ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] Don't worry bout me. I'm as organized as a henhouse full of chikens jus don't expect perfexion.

Does anyone know why you can't access USGENWEB.COM? I know it was part of rootsweb but are they just having problems with that site? Gale _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Anita and Gale - There is a book "Hebron Presbyterian Church" 1796-1996 published by the Hebron Historical Society in Banks County. The book can be obtained from the Historical Society. According to the book, the current church was built in 1884, but the history of the church goes back to 1796, not 1706. Again, according to the information in the book, the request from Presbyterians in Franklin County to Hopewell Presbytery to be organized into a congregation to be named Hebron is dated March 16, 1797. Are you sure of your dates? The book contains quite a listing of family genealogies of the members. The book contains an index of names and lists an Elias Andrew Sanders as being married to Jane Alice Gillespie (page 329). There is no other mention of Elias Sanders in the book. Robert Richardson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gale Sanders" <lgalesanders@hotmail.com> To: <GAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 7:48 PM Subject: Re: [GAFRANKL] Hebron Presbyterian Church/Mt. Hermon Presbyterian Church > I would be interested in this information as well to see if my ancestor > Elias Sanders or someone from his line might have been a member of the > church. > > Gale Sanders > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: "Anita Hinson" <anita@281.com> > To: GAFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [GAFRANKL] Hebron Presbyterian Church/Mt. Hermon Presbyterian > Church > Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 17:11:33 -0600 > > I am seeking the records of the older Hebron Presbyterian Church in Franklin > Co.GA. The old Hebron church existed from 1706 to 1802 when the new Hebron > Presbyterian Church was started on the other side of the James McCarter > plantation. These churches were a part of the Hopewell Presbytery of Wilkes > Co. > GA > > Hebron Church sponsored several churches in the surrounding area including > Mt. Hermon Presbyterian Church in Ila, Ga. > > Could someone tell me if the records for the old Hebron church can be found? > Where would these records have gone, if a new church was built? > > Anita > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >

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Hi listmembers, I'm sending this to just a few of the lists that I am on so if you get several copies, I apologize for that now. I know this is not a topic of the mailing list but as so many of you have access to a great many resources I was hoping someone could give me a lead or that you might have this information. Or, you might know where it is on the internet, short of me going to the ARCHIVES. I have already exhausted THE OLIVE TREE, IMMIGRANT SHIPS TRANSCRIBERS GUILD and others I can't quite think of right off the top of my head. What I'm looking for is a ship of the J&J COOKE shipping line, that sailed from Londonderry Ireland to Philadelphia Pennsylvania in 1847. I want to see the passenger lists if possible. Looking for Robert and Mary Hamilton, children, brother and sister. Thanks for any help. Gale Sanders _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

I am looking to correspond with anyone that is researching the SAXON family of GA, AL and TX. I will be happy to exchange info.

I am searching for Information on the Popular Springs Church located on the road to Gum Log Creek, Stephens Co. GA. (use to be in Franklin Co. GA. I would so appreciate any reply. Thank you, Dorice