>From Donna: Brenda will have to look at it on Monday, but in my 1850 census index, I don't show a Pirkle at 171: I show Ambers (Ambrose) at 497, Elihah at 1117, Nathaniel at 477 and William at 373. These are from my personal book notes in ( ) are mine 497 Ambers Pirkle 33 farmer 1000 NC (Haw Creek-Jan 17, 1817 - Sep 18,1866) Sarah 35f ga (Haw Creek - Mar 1, 1815 - Feb 18, 1876) Albert G. 12m ga (Sep 22, 1839 - Jan 22, 1909) (Caroline wife of A G - Jun 12, 1847 - Mar 2, 1914) Andrew J 10m ga (Feb 22, 1841 - Jun 25, 1913) (Mary E. wie of AJ Jul 10, 1843 - Jun 11, 1919) Isaac S 8m ga Mary E 6f ga (Mar 23, 1845 - Sep 12, 1864) Jacob F 4m ga (Aug 2, 1817 - May 31, 1863) George W 7/12 ga 1840 census Ambrose 10001 00001 ------------------- 1117 Elijah Pirkle 50m farmer 80 NC Allesia 48f NC Eliza A 18f ga Allessia 16f ga Mary E 14f ga Elijah 12m ga Jesse 5m ga Julia 20f ga 1840 Elija 1002101 132001 (Elijah Pirkle was the son of Wm and Sarah Cantrell Pirkle Sarah Pirkle Pirkle was the dau of Jacob and ElizabethSanders Pirkle Wm and Jacob were brothers and sons of John S. and Charity Dibbs Pirkle Haley Pirkle Phillips wife of Lewis B Phillips was a sister to Allesia Charity Pirkle Green wife of Albert Green was also a sister. J. C. ) --------------------------- 477 Nathaniel Pirkle 35m farmer 600 NC (Apr 27, 1814 - Sep 2, 1897) Elizabeth 30f ga (Elizabeth Ann Feb 19, 1819 - Mar 2 1905 - nee Bryant) James W 10m ga Ann A 8f ga Arminda 6f ga John M 4m ga Jacob S 2m ga Nathaniel 1/12m ga (Nathaniel was a son of Jacob and Elizabeth Sanders Pirkle JC) --------------- 373 William Pirkle 28m farmer Ga (W. M. Aug 10, 1821 - Oct 3, 1901) Delithia 30f ga (Tolitha C. Aug 10 1819 - Apr 20 1898) James G 8m ga (James G Mar 15, 1842 - Jul 20, 1862) William C 6m ga Jesse 4m ga Louisa J 2f ga (William Pirkle md Delitha Dollar 4-15-41)

I probably was just reading the page number, Marsha. It has been a long day. Brenda is out of town for a few days. Any complaints should be coming to me and I haven't had any. Thanks for making me see what was right in front of me. I had been using my own transcriptions, but I knew you were doing a great job and I didn't see any sense in retyping. Donna

Lorene was kind enough to send me Irene's direct line from John S. Garrett to her. I will post it on the Garrett page.

Do you have a link Marsha? I can't get it to load past 30. Donna

Dear Donna, Looked over the page, and enjoyed it. May I make a suggestion. If someone later gets on the page and has not been following the recent information on Irene, they would not have any idea who this is. Might be a good idea to explain that information. Also since you evidently have census information to get ages of wives, why not post all to give listing of children at various times. Thanks for the Daniel Newman information. Billie Jones -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Friday, September 17, 1999 12:55 PM Subject: [GAFORSYT-L] Daniel Garrett - Time Line now a Web page >I have posted the Daniel Garrett Time Line as a web page. I also added >Irene's letters and some of my notes. >You might find it interesting that there is a Sukey Garrett (widow) on the >1800 Spartenburg Co SC census. See refernce to Sukey in Irene's notes. >Daniel Newman Garrett was 4 on the 1870 census. I have notes from the family >that make it quite clear that Daniel Newman Garrett was Charity Ellison >Garrett's child. >http://hometown.aol.com/mflp/garrett.html > > >==== GAFORSYT Mailing List ==== >=======================Forsyth County Georgia======================= >Did you know? Although Forsyth County's Courthouse was burned in the >1970's most records were saved. Lost were Marriage Book A&B, >(which are on microfilm) some early newspapers, current files left >on the desks, most recent tax records and recent voter registration. > > >

Donna, No, I don't have it on a site myself. You aren't reading the first number on the left and thinking that's the household number are you? That first number is the page number. The second number is the household. There are 30 pages in the Chestatee District. Brenda, is anyone else having trouble pulling up the last part of Chestatee District? Marsha >From: [email protected] >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [GAFORSYT-L] Re. 1870 Forsyth Census- Daniel Garrett >Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 19:11:43 EDT > >Do you have a link Marsha? I can't get it to load past 30. > >Donna > > >==== GAFORSYT Mailing List ==== >Questions? Problems? Contact listowner: [email protected] > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Dear M., I do not have any Burrises, nor an Ann Garrett who meets the dates. Sorry. I do not know where Daniel Newman Garrett got his middle name. Right now, I am not even sure of which of Daniel's wifes was his mother. Have been given 4 wives, but most say he only had 3. Am hoping someone has Proof of these wives, and I can get that straightened out. Sorry I was of no help to you. Good luck, Billie Jones -----Original Message----- From: Davidson <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Friday, September 17, 1999 11:43 AM Subject: Re: [GAFORSYT-L] Daniel Garrett - Time Line >Do you have any Burris/Burrusses tucked in your family tree? >I have an Ann Garrett, 1808-1893, m. to James Overton Burruss/ >Burris, b 1797. Don't have names of children, if any. > >Where did Daniel Newman Garrett's middle name come from? >I have some Newman's too, they are connected to Brooks. > >My Jones are linked to Chastain and Ellinghaus. > >Does any of the above look familiar? > >Until next time, >M. Davidson, nee Burruss >[email protected] > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Lee and Billie Jones <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >Date: Friday, September 17, 1999 7:49 AM >Subject: Re: [GAFORSYT-L] Daniel Garrett - Time Line > > >>Dear Donna and others, >> >>The time line and marriage dates have me wondering about who the mother of >>Daniel Newman Garrett was, listed as a minor in will ca 1872 he could have >>been born as early as 1851 when Daniel was married to Emelia Jones, or >after >>1865, born to a new and younger wife Charity. >> >>Since you listed the 1860 and 1870 census with names and ages of wife, I >>wonder if you could also check on the children in the household. Need age >>of Daniel Newman to determine who his mother was. >> >>Thanks >> >>Billie Jones >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: [email protected] <[email protected]> >>To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >>Date: Monday, September 13, 1999 7:52 PM >>Subject: [GAFORSYT-L] Daniel Garrett - Time Line >> >> >>>Please look at the time line: >>> >>>Daniel Garrett born: >>>between 1775 and 1794 per the 1820 Hall County >>>between 1790 and 1800 per the 1830 Hall County >>>between 1780 and 1790 per the 1840 Forsyth census >>> 1794 per the 1850 Forsyth census >>> 1795 per the 1860 Forsyth census >>> 1794 per the 1870 Forsyth census >>>died by 6 May, 1872 as his will was probated then. >>> >>> >>>1790 census - probably not born >>> >>>1800 census - SC? >>> >>>1810 census - SC? >>> >>>1818 John S. Garrett (Daniel's son) born 14 Oct 1818 per tombstone. >>> >>>Between 1818 and 1820 (From Irene's grandpa: Grandpa said Daniel came to >>>Georgia from Anderson Courthouse SC when his son John S. was just a tad of >>a >>>boy) >>> >>>1820 Hall County wife born between 1794 and 1804 >>> >>>1830 Hall County wife born between 1790 and 1800 >>> >>>1840 Forsyth census wife born between 1800 and 1810 >>> >>>1843 "Salem Baptist Church was constituted August 11, 1843. Members to >>join >>>at the first meeting, September 8, 1843 lists Daniel A. Garrett and >Emilia >>>Garrett." >>> >>>1850 Forsyth census wife Milly age 45 (Jones per family) >>> >>>1860 Forsyth census wife Milly age 56 >>> >>>12 Sep 1864 Book C p 243 Daniel A Garrett md Charity Ellison >>> >>>1870 Forsyth census wife Charity age 45 >>>died by 6 May, 1872 as his will was probated then. >>> >>>You sent: >>> >>>DANIEL A. GARRETT, b. Bet. 1792 - 1794, SC d. 1872, Forsyth Co., GA. >>> m. (1) STUART Abt. 1812 >>> m. (2) MARY ANN HAWES July 19, 1842, Stuart Co., Ga. >>> m. (3) MILLY "CHARITY" JONES September 12, 1864 >>> >>>Question 1 - How in the world did Mary Ann Hawes get in there and who >could >>>believe Milly and Charity were the same person. >>> >>>Question 2 - >>>Where is Stuart County, GA? I found Stewart County in the southern part >>of >>>the State on the Alabama line. no Stuart. >>> >>> >>>==== GAFORSYT Mailing List ==== >>>=======================Forsyth County Georgia======================= >>>Did you know? Although Forsyth County's Courthouse was burned in the >>>1970's most records were saved. Lost were Marriage Book A&B, >>>(which are on microfilm) some early newspapers, current files left >>>on the desks, most recent tax records and recent voter registration. >>> >>> >> >> >> >>==== GAFORSYT Mailing List ==== >>What *is* a Surname Resource? Although these new resources are >>still under construction, they are operational. >> <http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/> >> > > >==== GAFORSYT Mailing List ==== >=======================Forsyth County Georgia====================== >Visit our web site at <http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaforsyt/index.html> > >

Sharon posted the 1850 - Daniel is #756 and he is up. I donated the 1860 census to the Forsyth County Genweb page and it is posted in its entirety. Marsha Roach is posting the 1870 Census and it is posted through household 30 of the Chestatee section - Daniel is hsehold 236 in that section, so it shouldn't be much longer until it is up.Daniel Newman is the only child with him. My mother and I also donated the first 100 years of marriages and they are posted on the genweb page. What I am doing now is trying to get all my loose records up and deciding what to do about the cemetery book and the census index book. If you don't have the link for the Forsyth County page - use this one. http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaforsyt/old.htm That will get you to the links to reach the marriages and censuses. Please take the time to look around the genweb site and my site and the historical society site (soon) often. We add material almost daily. We have a great group of volunteers. And people have been most generous. Donna

Do you have any Burris/Burrusses tucked in your family tree? I have an Ann Garrett, 1808-1893, m. to James Overton Burruss/ Burris, b 1797. Don't have names of children, if any. Where did Daniel Newman Garrett's middle name come from? I have some Newman's too, they are connected to Brooks. My Jones are linked to Chastain and Ellinghaus. Does any of the above look familiar? Until next time, M. Davidson, nee Burruss [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Lee and Billie Jones <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Friday, September 17, 1999 7:49 AM Subject: Re: [GAFORSYT-L] Daniel Garrett - Time Line >Dear Donna and others, > >The time line and marriage dates have me wondering about who the mother of >Daniel Newman Garrett was, listed as a minor in will ca 1872 he could have >been born as early as 1851 when Daniel was married to Emelia Jones, or after >1865, born to a new and younger wife Charity. > >Since you listed the 1860 and 1870 census with names and ages of wife, I >wonder if you could also check on the children in the household. Need age >of Daniel Newman to determine who his mother was. > >Thanks > >Billie Jones > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >Date: Monday, September 13, 1999 7:52 PM >Subject: [GAFORSYT-L] Daniel Garrett - Time Line > > >>Please look at the time line: >> >>Daniel Garrett born: >>between 1775 and 1794 per the 1820 Hall County >>between 1790 and 1800 per the 1830 Hall County >>between 1780 and 1790 per the 1840 Forsyth census >> 1794 per the 1850 Forsyth census >> 1795 per the 1860 Forsyth census >> 1794 per the 1870 Forsyth census >>died by 6 May, 1872 as his will was probated then. >> >> >>1790 census - probably not born >> >>1800 census - SC? >> >>1810 census - SC? >> >>1818 John S. Garrett (Daniel's son) born 14 Oct 1818 per tombstone. >> >>Between 1818 and 1820 (From Irene's grandpa: Grandpa said Daniel came to >>Georgia from Anderson Courthouse SC when his son John S. was just a tad of >a >>boy) >> >>1820 Hall County wife born between 1794 and 1804 >> >>1830 Hall County wife born between 1790 and 1800 >> >>1840 Forsyth census wife born between 1800 and 1810 >> >>1843 "Salem Baptist Church was constituted August 11, 1843. Members to >join >>at the first meeting, September 8, 1843 lists Daniel A. Garrett and Emilia >>Garrett." >> >>1850 Forsyth census wife Milly age 45 (Jones per family) >> >>1860 Forsyth census wife Milly age 56 >> >>12 Sep 1864 Book C p 243 Daniel A Garrett md Charity Ellison >> >>1870 Forsyth census wife Charity age 45 >>died by 6 May, 1872 as his will was probated then. >> >>You sent: >> >>DANIEL A. GARRETT, b. Bet. 1792 - 1794, SC d. 1872, Forsyth Co., GA. >> m. (1) STUART Abt. 1812 >> m. (2) MARY ANN HAWES July 19, 1842, Stuart Co., Ga. >> m. (3) MILLY "CHARITY" JONES September 12, 1864 >> >>Question 1 - How in the world did Mary Ann Hawes get in there and who could >>believe Milly and Charity were the same person. >> >>Question 2 - >>Where is Stuart County, GA? I found Stewart County in the southern part >of >>the State on the Alabama line. no Stuart. >> >> >>==== GAFORSYT Mailing List ==== >>=======================Forsyth County Georgia======================= >>Did you know? Although Forsyth County's Courthouse was burned in the >>1970's most records were saved. Lost were Marriage Book A&B, >>(which are on microfilm) some early newspapers, current files left >>on the desks, most recent tax records and recent voter registration. >> >> > > > >==== GAFORSYT Mailing List ==== >What *is* a Surname Resource? Although these new resources are >still under construction, they are operational. > <http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/> >

Actually, all of the Chestatee District from the 1870 census is up and online. When you click on the 1870 census you have to choose which district you want to look at. For Chestatee there are 2 choices: "Chestatee" and "More Chestatee". Daniel is in Household 263 which is listed on "More Chestatee". Soon Coal Mountain District will be online also. When I get the whole census online, I will probably do an alphabetical index for the whole thing. It's only separated into Districts because the page numbers started over at Page 1 on each district and it would have been very confusing to have them all listed together when page numbers were being repeated. >From: [email protected] >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: [GAFORSYT-L] Forsyth County Censuses - Daniel Garrett >Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 15:47:03 EDT > >Sharon posted the 1850 - Daniel is #756 and he is up. >I donated the 1860 census to the Forsyth County Genweb page and it is >posted >in its entirety. >Marsha Roach is posting the 1870 Census and it is posted through household >30 >of the Chestatee section - Daniel is hsehold 236 in that section, so it >shouldn't be much longer until it is up.Daniel Newman is the only child >with >him. >My mother and I also donated the first 100 years of marriages and they are >posted on the genweb page. >What I am doing now is trying to get all my loose records up and deciding >what to do about the cemetery book and the census index book. >If you don't have the link for the Forsyth County page - use this one. >http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaforsyt/old.htm >That will get you to the links to reach the marriages and censuses. >Please take the time to look around the genweb site and my site and the >historical society site (soon) often. We add material almost daily. We have >a >great group of volunteers. And people have been most generous. >Donna > > >==== GAFORSYT Mailing List ==== >=======================Forsyth County Georgia======================= >Did you know? Although Forsyth County's Courthouse was burned in the >1970's most records were saved. Lost were Marriage Book A&B, >(which are on microfilm) some early newspapers, current files left >on the desks, most recent tax records and recent voter registration. > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

I have posted the Daniel Garrett Time Line as a web page. I also added Irene's letters and some of my notes. You might find it interesting that there is a Sukey Garrett (widow) on the 1800 Spartenburg Co SC census. See refernce to Sukey in Irene's notes. Daniel Newman Garrett was 4 on the 1870 census. I have notes from the family that make it quite clear that Daniel Newman Garrett was Charity Ellison Garrett's child. http://hometown.aol.com/mflp/garrett.html

Thanks Donna, I've just added descendants of John A. Miller and Nancy Casey, and have really hit a wall trying to go back any further. If I could connect Joseph Haley Miller as being the son of John A. Miller and Nancy Casey, who's father was Uriah Miller I'd have plenty of Information. If anyone can provide information to link him to this J.A. Miller and Nancy Casey I'd be very grateful. Martha [email protected] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Visit my web page at: http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/mjh ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > -----Original Message----- Donna wrote: > Your web page looks really nice Martha and has a lot of good > information on > it. I think you will love having it. > > Donna > >

I'll keep looking Martha. Donna

Dear Donna and others, The time line and marriage dates have me wondering about who the mother of Daniel Newman Garrett was, listed as a minor in will ca 1872 he could have been born as early as 1851 when Daniel was married to Emelia Jones, or after 1865, born to a new and younger wife Charity. Since you listed the 1860 and 1870 census with names and ages of wife, I wonder if you could also check on the children in the household. Need age of Daniel Newman to determine who his mother was. Thanks Billie Jones -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Monday, September 13, 1999 7:52 PM Subject: [GAFORSYT-L] Daniel Garrett - Time Line >Please look at the time line: > >Daniel Garrett born: >between 1775 and 1794 per the 1820 Hall County >between 1790 and 1800 per the 1830 Hall County >between 1780 and 1790 per the 1840 Forsyth census > 1794 per the 1850 Forsyth census > 1795 per the 1860 Forsyth census > 1794 per the 1870 Forsyth census >died by 6 May, 1872 as his will was probated then. > > >1790 census - probably not born > >1800 census - SC? > >1810 census - SC? > >1818 John S. Garrett (Daniel's son) born 14 Oct 1818 per tombstone. > >Between 1818 and 1820 (From Irene's grandpa: Grandpa said Daniel came to >Georgia from Anderson Courthouse SC when his son John S. was just a tad of a >boy) > >1820 Hall County wife born between 1794 and 1804 > >1830 Hall County wife born between 1790 and 1800 > >1840 Forsyth census wife born between 1800 and 1810 > >1843 "Salem Baptist Church was constituted August 11, 1843. Members to join >at the first meeting, September 8, 1843 lists Daniel A. Garrett and Emilia >Garrett." > >1850 Forsyth census wife Milly age 45 (Jones per family) > >1860 Forsyth census wife Milly age 56 > >12 Sep 1864 Book C p 243 Daniel A Garrett md Charity Ellison > >1870 Forsyth census wife Charity age 45 >died by 6 May, 1872 as his will was probated then. > >You sent: > >DANIEL A. GARRETT, b. Bet. 1792 - 1794, SC d. 1872, Forsyth Co., GA. > m. (1) STUART Abt. 1812 > m. (2) MARY ANN HAWES July 19, 1842, Stuart Co., Ga. > m. (3) MILLY "CHARITY" JONES September 12, 1864 > >Question 1 - How in the world did Mary Ann Hawes get in there and who could >believe Milly and Charity were the same person. > >Question 2 - >Where is Stuart County, GA? I found Stewart County in the southern part of >the State on the Alabama line. no Stuart. > > >==== GAFORSYT Mailing List ==== >=======================Forsyth County Georgia======================= >Did you know? Although Forsyth County's Courthouse was burned in the >1970's most records were saved. Lost were Marriage Book A&B, >(which are on microfilm) some early newspapers, current files left >on the desks, most recent tax records and recent voter registration. > >

Your web page looks really nice Martha and has a lot of good information on it. I think you will love having it. Donna

After much work, I've finally gotten my web page up and information on my Smith/Chambers/Phipps line (also includes others). This is my mother's maternal line. please visit my web page at http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/mjh/index.html If you find any errors or have anything to add, please email me. A very special thanks to Lorene Veal who furnished much needed information on the Smith's and Chamber's. Martha [email protected] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Visit my web page at: http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/mjh/index.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Received the following from the corp of engineer contact about Lake Lanier cemeteries. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: Lee and Billie Jones <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, September 14, 1999 7:42 AM Subject: Re: Cemeteries > > >All known remains were removed. > >

Dear Bill, If you have a contact with Mrs. McRay, maybe you could get permission to have it scanned and placed in the Hall Co Genweb pages. I have both Hall and Forsyth Co ancestors. Billie Jones Camden, SC -----Original Message----- From: Bill Stephenson <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Monday, September 13, 1999 8:09 PM Subject: Re: [GAFORSYT-L] Cemetery Books >As best I can determine, the Hall county cemetery book by Sybil McRay is a >one of a kind. It is about 300 pages long and Ms. McRay says that she has >no plans to publish it. > >Bill Stephenson

[email protected] wrote: > > Have you seen this one Sharon? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gafrankl/ > > ==== GAFORSYT Mailing List ==== > =======================Forsyth County Georgia====================== > Visit our web site at <http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaforsyt/index.html> thanks a bunch!

Showes parts of SC and then GA http://www.cftech.com/BrainBank/GEOGRAPHY/Georgia.html I believe my Bennetts went from Greenville SC to Franklin Co GA and then to Hall and Forsyth Co., GA., so i have been looking for Franklin Co. - found it on map below! Enjoy sharon in Texas http://www.lib.utexas.edu/Libs/PCL/Map_collection/united_states/Georgia_90.jpg