My family has been in Elbert County Georgia since at least 1807/08 when Elias SANDERS was given land. He married Mary Carter and all info shows their birthdates as 1775. I can't find Elias' parents or sibs/cuz/uncles/etc.....and the book states he was "thought" to have come from Maryland but again, "cousins" from one of his many children have written me stating they thought he came from NC. Elias Sanders b abt 1775, married Mary Carter b abt 1775 she is thought to be the daughter of Thomas Carter who fought in the REV WAR. Together they had the following children: 1. Elias Sanders Jr b 1/1797 m Julia Vickery 2. Mary b 1800 m James Vickery 3. Thomas "Kit" b 1801 m Isabella Trotman (Totman) b abt 1810. 4. Calvin P b abt 1803 m Sarah Miller 5. Lewis Manley b abt 1804 m Prudence Miller 6. Samuel B b 1808 m Annie Skelton 7. Jonathan P b abt 1812 m Orpha Miller 8. Patience b 1/1818 m Joseph Hightower Vickery(1) and John Smith(2) 9. Rachel m Joel Dyar A cousin from Hartwell Georgia recently paid me a visit and was giving me as much info has he had and I was told that there are SANDERS' still living on the original land that belonged to Elias SANDERS. -- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 19, 1999 9:38 AM Subject: Re: [GAFORSYT-L] SANDERS/CARTER lookups > Does Elias ever appear on the Elbert County Census? > If so when did he disappear from there? > > > ==== GAFORSYT Mailing List ==== > =======================Forsyth County Georgia======================= > Did you know? Although Forsyth County's Courthouse was burned in the > 1970's most records were saved. Lost were Marriage Book A&B, > (which are on microfilm) some early newspapers, current files left > on the desks, most recent tax records and recent voter registration. >

I have added material from Dan and Lorene into the timeline, plus census info. I think what we need to know now- Is there an administration or probate in SC (Greenville District) in which Sukey is the wife? Who was Daniel's first wife and the mother of Hendrix and John S. that all our searchers seem to descend from? Donna

My question is - if they were in Elbert County, what do you want me to look up in Forsyth County, GA? I have only Forsyth Records and if he is buried under his kitchen in Elbert County, he would not be in my Forsyth County Cemetery Book. Have you tried the Elbert County page? <A HREF="http://www.athens.net/~laaron">Elbert County Georgia Genealogy</A> -http://www.athens.net/~laaron Donna

Donna, Honestly, I don't know when or if any of the SANDERS or CARTER'S were in Forsyth Co at all, no one has been able to tell me where my ancestor came from, we all seem to have the same info that came from a book written in 1933 by a Travis Parker. I believe he was a researcher for the Savannah Genealogy Assn(?) at that time. Recently a "cousin" sent me info that their side of the family thought Elias SANDERS came from NC, but no one knows for sure, that i've contacted. If they are or their ancestor's were there at all, it was before 1800's. I say that due to Elias having land in Elbert Co, by 1807/08. gale sanders ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 13, 1999 8:10 AM Subject: Re: [GAFORSYT-L] SANDERS/CARTER lookups > Forsyth County started in 1832. Our records basically begin in 1833. Can you > be more specific as to when they were in Forsyth County GA. > Donna > > > ==== GAFORSYT Mailing List ==== > What *is* a Surname Resource? Although these new resources are > still under construction, they are operational. > <http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/> >

Dan pointed out that his reading was Powel (Powell) and I agree. and I agree.

Does Elias ever appear on the Elbert County Census? If so when did he disappear from there?

I did not link my history page to my main page. <A HREF="http://hometown.aol.com/mflp/histlnx.html">Forsyth County History ( histlnx)</A> http://hometown.aol.com/mflp/histlnx.html On it is a map 1834 that shows how the original counties lay. Before 1833, Forsyth peoples Records would be filed in Cherokee County. Before 1832, Forsyth peoples Records would be in Hall or Gwinnett depending on which side of Baldridge Ridge Creek and/or the Federal Road they lived on.

Re. Household 236 I read that name as Powel, Mary. But it probably should be Powell. >From: [email protected] >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: [GAFORSYT-L] Fwd: 1870 census/Daniel Garrett >Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 11:03:17 EDT > >--part1_65a4ba14.251503b5_boundary >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >I agree Powell is more likely than Farrell . >Thanks for the correction. >Donna > >--part1_65a4ba14.251503b5_boundary >Content-Type: message/rfc822 >Content-Disposition: inline > >Return-Path: <[email protected]> >Received: from rly-yb03.mx.aol.com (rly-yb03.mail.aol.com [172.18.146.3]) >by > air-yb04.mail.aol.com (v60.28) with ESMTP; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 23:40:22 > -0400 >Received: from islander.whidbey.net (islander.whidbey.net [204.57.140.1]) >by > rly-yb03.mx.aol.com (v61.9) with ESMTP; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 23:40:12 > -0400 >Received: from [204.57.140.51] (asn162.whidbey.net [204.57.140.51]) > by islander.whidbey.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA01658 > for <[email protected]>; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 20:30:34 -0700 (PDT) >X-Sender: [email protected] >Message-Id: <[email protected][204.57.140.186]> >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 20:39:33 -0800 >To: [email protected] >From: Dan and Dorothy Jones <[email protected]> >Subject: 1870 census/Daniel Garrett >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >You wrote: > >well - from my book > >236/212 > >Dan'l A Garrett 76mw SC > >Charity 45f w ga > >Mary FARREL 23fw ga > >Oliver GLASS 19mw ga > >Daniel GARRETT 4mw ga > >Jesse BOYD 10mB ga > >I have a copy of the enumerator's schedule, dated 20th day of July, 1870, >Chestatee District, which reads: > >236/212 Garret Danl A. 76 m w Farmer $750 $500 b S. Carolina > --- Charity 45 f w Keeping House b Georgia > POWEL Mary 23 f w At home " > Glass Oliver 19 m w Farmhand " > Garret Danl N. 4 m w At home " > Boyd JASON 10 m b Farmhand " > >Mary POWELL is my gr.grandmother, daughter of Allen Powell, md Thomas Ira >Pendley. Mary and T.I. are buried in the Salem Bapt. Church cemetery. > >Daniel Jones > > > > >--part1_65a4ba14.251503b5_boundary-- > > >==== GAFORSYT Mailing List ==== >What *is* a Surname Resource? Although these new resources are >still under construction, they are operational. > <http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/> > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Thanks for posting the record. It will give us an idea of where they were living. I was told by a researcher of this line, Ben Garrett, that their property was on both sides of the river and therefore they were in both Hall and Forsyth Cos. Their property is supposedly under Lake Lanier. It would be interesting to find the deeds where the land was sold to get the exact location. Were Garretts still on that land when Lake Lanier was planned? They were probably in the same place in 1840 Forsyth Co as they were in 1820 and 1830 when they show up in HAll Co, maybe just moved across the river into a new home or did the lines change?? Just an interesting questions that pops up when I see different records, some from Forsyth and some from Hall. Billie Jones -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Saturday, September 18, 1999 9:17 AM Subject: Re: [GAFORSYT-L] Re. 1870 Forsyth Census- Daniel Garrett >Here is a bit of information I have not seen on the GARRETT'S. In Robert S. >Davis' book "The Families of Hall County 1817-1849" Chapter vii, Poor School >Children, 1825-1836, pages 86 & 88 you will find REPORT FOR 1830 (CHILDREN >TAUGHT IN 1829) 413th Militia District, page 86 John Garrot, Hendrick >Garrot, & Satirah Garrot, then on page 88 for same year, 413th militia dist. >John Garrett (age 13), Hendrick Garrett (age 14), Jatirah (Satirah???) (age >10). > >Lorene Veal > > > > >==== GAFORSYT Mailing List ==== >Donna's Tip: A timeline is the easiest and most accurate way >to keep track of your research. > > >

Hello List, Would anyone know of a Mrs. Frank Grass? I also have a Poythress line in my ancestry and received word that this lady has done great reseach on this line. I would appreciate any help on this line that you could possibly give. Thanks, sheryl ps below is some extra data just incase anyone is related. > Subject: Grass obituaries > > Here are the obits you requested. > > > -PUBL- THE DAILY OKLAHOMAN > -COLM- DEATHS and FUNERALS > -DATE- Thu, 20 Mar 1997 > -EDTN- CITY > -HEAD- Frank Grass > -PAGE- 30 > -SECT- NEWS > -DAYW- Thursday > -LENG- 10 > -KEYS- OBITUARY > -TEXT- > > GRASS > Frank, 86, passed away March 17, 1997, after battling declining > health for the past several years. Frank was born December 24, 1910 > in Budapest, Hungary. He immigrated to the United States as an > infant with his family. He graduated from Cortland College in New > York state. After graduation, he became a tutor and guardian in > Grosse Pointe, Mi., to the sons of Harley J. Earl, a General Motors > V.P. During WWII, he served as a physical education instructor to > Army Air Corps recruits in Florida and, ultimately, at Tinker Air > Force Base. While serving at Tinker, Frank met and married Patty > Julia Patterson (now deceased). After their marriage in 1945, they > settled in Oklahoma City where Frank began operating the Nehi > Bottling Company. His most recent business activity before > retirement was as a commercial real estate appraiser. Frank was > active in civic organizations, belonged to the Petroleum Club, and > was a member of All Souls Episcopal Church. During their long > marriage, Frank and Patty enjoyed world-wide traveling. Their trips > included visits to Alaska, Hawaii, Europe, the Far East, the Middle > East, as well as extensive travel in the U.S. Frank is survived by > his nephew, Frank Stuart Cashman of Shelby Township, Mi; his great > nephews, Mark E. Cashman and Michael V. Cashman, both of Sterling > Heights, Mi; his great niece, Cynthia Wichtner and his great-great > niece and nephew, Nicole and Coltin Wichtner, all of Eustis, Fl. > Funeral service 11:00 a.m. Friday, March 21, 1997, at All Souls > Episcopal Church. Interment Rose Hill Burial Park. The family > requests memorial contributions to All Souls Episcopal Church. > > > -PUBL- THE SATURDAY OKLAHOMAN > -COLM- DEATHS and FUNERALS > -DATE- Sat, 24 Oct 1992 > -EDTN- CITY > -HEAD- Patty Patterson Grass > -PAGE- 16 > -SECT- NEWS > -DAYW- Saturday > -LENG- 11 > -KEYS- OBITUARY > -TEXT- > GRASS > Patty Patterson, died Thursday, October 22, 1992. She was born > January 16, 1909, in Oklahoma City. Patty was a founding member of > All Souls Episcopal Church and had remained very active in the > church. She was the author of "The Silver Years", a 25 year history > of All Souls. She taught art at Classen High School and Oklahoma > City University and was a graduate of Oklahoma University with a > B.F.A. in Art. She attended art classes at the Palace at > Fontainebleau, France, Ecole des Beaux-Arts; Taos School of Art; > Art Students League of NYC; and numerous other studios. These > studies were with many internationally known artists. She exhibited > her work in New York City, Boston, Oklahoma Museum of Art, Oklahoma > Art Center, Tulsa Art Association, and numerous other exhibits. She > served as secretary and vice president of Oklahoma Artists Ass'n. > > and was a member of Oklahoma Art League, Fontainebleau Alumni > Ass'n., Oklahoma Watercolor Ass'n., Watercolor Oklahoma and > Southwestern Watercolor Ass'n. Her special awards included Oklahoma > Art League Medal for Still Life in Oils, McDowell Club of Allied > Arts Medal for Watercolor Landscape, Special Award 1975 by Oklahoma > Art Guild for Watercolor Landscape, and First Prize 1975, Abstract, > by Watercolor Oklahoma. She represented Oklahoma in Who's Who in > American Art since 1940; and is in Who's Who in American Women. She > is survived by her husband, Frank Grass of OKC, whom she married > June 3, 1944; a brother and sister-in-law, Mr. and Mrs. L.E. > Patterson; a nephew, L.E. Patterson, Jr. and a niece, Nancy > Patterson, all of Austin, Tx. Funeral service will be at 12:00 noon > Saturday, Oct. 24, 1992, All Souls Episcopal Church. Interment Rose > Hill Cemetery. In lieu of flowers, the family suggests memorials to > All Souls Episcopal Church. > > Hahn-Cook/Street & Draper > 6006 NW Grand Blvd 848-3744 Mrs. Grass was very active (for a time) in OK Gen Society--I found ref in the 1961--excerpts following. We will contact a friend who may or may not be able to tell us a bit more; but don't hold your breath. In the June '61 quarterly there are ref telling us that she would lecture on "Planning Your Summer Research"; and "A Geneaological Problem--How to Put a Difficult Family Together" Also in this quarterly was a request from her for info on her gr father, Cicero Smith, A Confederate soldier from Georgia. In the June "61 issue, she requested info on the name HILL--specifically the father of Melissa Hill--b 15 Oct 1849 near Morrelton, Ark. Her mother was Caroline Titsworth who was adopted by her step-grandfather, James Campbell. She took the name of Campbell after the death of her father. In the June issue she was looking for anyone researching names TRAMWELL, KITE, CLARKE, KENT, McBRIDE, McDANIEL, PLEASANT & POTTER names.

Hear, Hear - and right you are Brian. And thanks for taking the time to bring this point up to the group. We are indeed fortunate to have such knowledgable and willing resources. Bill Stephenson ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Shay <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 17, 1999 11:14 PM Subject: Re: [GAFORSYT-L] Re. 1870 Forsyth - Pirkle > > From Donna: > > Brenda will have to look at it on Monday, but in my 1850 census index, I > > don't show a Pirkle at 171: I show Ambers (Ambrose) at 497, Elihah at 1117, > > Nathaniel at 477 and William at 373. > snip snip snip. > > Thanks for the help. This goes to show that there are still people out > there that believe in helping others. So many times I get the response"look > it up for yourself, I did". > > I have only been on this list a short time and it is the most helpful and > friendliest one that I have found. > > I hope that I will be able to contribute something in the future. > > Thanks, > > Brian Shay > > > ==== GAFORSYT Mailing List ==== > =======================Forsyth County Georgia======================= > Did you know? Although Forsyth County's Courthouse was burned in the > 1970's most records were saved. Lost were Marriage Book A&B, > (which are on microfilm) some early newspapers, current files left > on the desks, most recent tax records and recent voter registration. >

Here is a bit of information I have not seen on the GARRETT'S. In Robert S. Davis' book "The Families of Hall County 1817-1849" Chapter vii, Poor School Children, 1825-1836, pages 86 & 88 you will find REPORT FOR 1830 (CHILDREN TAUGHT IN 1829) 413th Militia District, page 86 John Garrot, Hendrick Garrot, & Satirah Garrot, then on page 88 for same year, 413th militia dist. John Garrett (age 13), Hendrick Garrett (age 14), Jatirah (Satirah???) (age 10). Lorene Veal

I am looking for information on the Uriah Poss, Henry C. Poss, Nancy Ann Stinchcomb, RIdgeway or Davenport. If anyone has any information please let me know. Thank you

Thanks, Lorene Veal

Could you please remove [email protected] from your e-mail postings. Thank-you. >

--part1_65a4ba14.251503b5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree Powell is more likely than Farrell . Thanks for the correction. Donna --part1_65a4ba14.251503b5_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <[email protected]> Received: from rly-yb03.mx.aol.com (rly-yb03.mail.aol.com [172.18.146.3]) by air-yb04.mail.aol.com (v60.28) with ESMTP; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 23:40:22 -0400 Received: from islander.whidbey.net (islander.whidbey.net [204.57.140.1]) by rly-yb03.mx.aol.com (v61.9) with ESMTP; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 23:40:12 -0400 Received: from [204.57.140.51] (asn162.whidbey.net [204.57.140.51]) by islander.whidbey.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA01658 for <[email protected]>; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 20:30:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: [email protected] Message-Id: <[email protected][204.57.140.186]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 20:39:33 -0800 To: [email protected] From: Dan and Dorothy Jones <[email protected]> Subject: 1870 census/Daniel Garrett Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You wrote: >well - from my book >236/212 >Dan'l A Garrett 76mw SC >Charity 45f w ga >Mary FARREL 23fw ga >Oliver GLASS 19mw ga >Daniel GARRETT 4mw ga >Jesse BOYD 10mB ga I have a copy of the enumerator's schedule, dated 20th day of July, 1870, Chestatee District, which reads: 236/212 Garret Danl A. 76 m w Farmer $750 $500 b S. Carolina --- Charity 45 f w Keeping House b Georgia POWEL Mary 23 f w At home " Glass Oliver 19 m w Farmhand " Garret Danl N. 4 m w At home " Boyd JASON 10 m b Farmhand " Mary POWELL is my gr.grandmother, daughter of Allen Powell, md Thomas Ira Pendley. Mary and T.I. are buried in the Salem Bapt. Church cemetery. Daniel Jones --part1_65a4ba14.251503b5_boundary--

> From Donna: > Brenda will have to look at it on Monday, but in my 1850 census index, I > don't show a Pirkle at 171: I show Ambers (Ambrose) at 497, Elihah at 1117, > Nathaniel at 477 and William at 373. snip snip snip. Thanks for the help. This goes to show that there are still people out there that believe in helping others. So many times I get the response"look it up for yourself, I did". I have only been on this list a short time and it is the most helpful and friendliest one that I have found. I hope that I will be able to contribute something in the future. Thanks, Brian Shay

If all of Chestatee Dist is up, I can only get Chestatee through 103/91 More Chestatee starts for me at 131/117 and goes through 202/180 I can't get h/h 263. Lorene Veal

I can get Chestatee to load to Page 8, Household 66, Family 57. The second set of Chestatee loads to p 22 h 189, f 168. I have a problem with the 1850 census. I can only get the section (1-300) to load to 163. Of course my PIRKLEs start at 171. Any suggestions????? Thanks, Brian Shay BUTRICK, DEFEVER, PIRKLE, SHAY

well - from my book 236/212 Dan'l A Garrett 76mw SC Charity 45f w ga Mary FARREL 23fw ga Oliver GLASS 19mw ga Daniel GARRETT 4mw ga Jesse BOYD 10mB ga next door is 237/213 William Ellison 52mwNC Nancy 50fw ga Emily 10fw ga Joseph 8mw ga John 6mw ga Samantha 2fw ga