Tom didn't say how much space he needs, but you get six megs free at earthlink with your membership. Randy -- Randall Hughes [email protected] http://home.earthlink.net/~randyhug/

Yes - there were a couple of cases in my family but usually the Jr. was named after a grandfather. Could this be your case also? Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: David L. Roper <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 15, 1999 11:24 AM Subject: [GAFORSYT-L] Just want an opinion > My ggg-grandparents John and Tabitha Roper were members of the Friendship > Baptist Church in Forsyth County. Another member listed is "John Roper > Jr." John had a son named John - but that was years later. The term "John > Roper Jr" also does not fit any other John Roper at that time that I know > about. Someone told me that it was not uncommon in those days to call > someone by the name "Jr" if they had the same name as someone older in the > area - whether they were the son of that person or not. If that is the > case here, "John Jr." probably refers to a younger cousin of my John who > was named John C. Roper. At long last I come to my question: Has anyone > else ever heard of calling someone Jr. to distinquish them someone older > with the same name? > > David Roper > > David L. Roper > 1112 Judson Ave. > Judsonia AR 72081 > (501) 729-4414 > > > > ==== GAFORSYT Mailing List ==== > Donna's Tip: A timeline is the easiest and most accurate way > to keep track of your research. >

I should also mention there are also many "freebie" sites - like Geo-Cities/Yahoo, etc. You are alloted a generous amount of space. Shirley Shirley Norman-Gunn wrote: > This sounds like a site Tom may wish to consider moving to RootsWeb. I do not > know the costs for sites such as his, but I only pay $50 a year for my personal > genealogy site. We are elderly and on a fixed income, also, but $50.00 is not > that much when you consider the benefits. > > Shirley <>>><>>><><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<><<<> For Virus Information, Please Visit: Computer Incident Advisory Capability prior to participating in hoaxes and/or chain letters - http://www.ciac.org/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html And for Virus Data and Removal: Antivirus Research Center http://www.sarc.com/avcenter/ Broken Threads http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~snowdawn/ Cherry Blossom Pagoda http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Ginza/3803/index.html

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Nope, I went that route originally, but we now have undeniable proof that it is the same John married to the two women. >David, >Where did you get the 2nd marriage record? My first thought is that it >could have perhaps been another "John". >Melba >-----Original Message----- >From: David L. Roper <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >Date: Friday, October 15, 1999 9:25 AM >Subject: [GAFORSYT-L] Wanted: opinion and guesses > > >>My John Roper was married to Tabitha Roper in the 1850 Forsyth County >>census. In 1856 he married Amy Elizabeth Reid and is listed with her in >>the 1860 Forsyth County census. Tabitha had one more child, named Sarah, >>in 1854, so we assumed that she died between 1854 and 1856. But then >>Annette Bramblett sent us a list of the Friendship Baptist Church >>membership list that indicates that Tabitha remained a member of that >>church until 1877. Does this mean that old John dumped (divorced) Tabitha >>to marry a younger woman? Or is there some other possible explanation? >> >>David Roper >> >>David L. Roper >>1112 Judson Ave. >>Judsonia AR 72081 >>(501) 729-4414 >> >> >> >>==== GAFORSYT Mailing List ==== >>Donna's Tip: A timeline is the easiest and most accurate way >>to keep track of your research. >> >> > > >==== GAFORSYT Mailing List ==== >While digging your roots, why not post information you obtain >on other families? This is the place to share any and all >information relating to all Forsyth County names. David L. Roper 1112 Judson Ave. Judsonia AR 72081 (501) 729-4414

David, Where did you get the 2nd marriage record? My first thought is that it could have perhaps been another "John". Melba -----Original Message----- From: David L. Roper <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Friday, October 15, 1999 9:25 AM Subject: [GAFORSYT-L] Wanted: opinion and guesses >My John Roper was married to Tabitha Roper in the 1850 Forsyth County >census. In 1856 he married Amy Elizabeth Reid and is listed with her in >the 1860 Forsyth County census. Tabitha had one more child, named Sarah, >in 1854, so we assumed that she died between 1854 and 1856. But then >Annette Bramblett sent us a list of the Friendship Baptist Church >membership list that indicates that Tabitha remained a member of that >church until 1877. Does this mean that old John dumped (divorced) Tabitha >to marry a younger woman? Or is there some other possible explanation? > >David Roper > >David L. Roper >1112 Judson Ave. >Judsonia AR 72081 >(501) 729-4414 > > > >==== GAFORSYT Mailing List ==== >Donna's Tip: A timeline is the easiest and most accurate way >to keep track of your research. > >

David, Yes, I found a case in Limestone Co., AL where the Jr. was the nephew of the Sr. They lived back in the early 1800's. Melba -----Original Message----- From: David L. Roper <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Friday, October 15, 1999 9:25 AM Subject: [GAFORSYT-L] Just want an opinion >My ggg-grandparents John and Tabitha Roper were members of the Friendship >Baptist Church in Forsyth County. Another member listed is "John Roper >Jr." John had a son named John - but that was years later. The term "John >Roper Jr" also does not fit any other John Roper at that time that I know >about. Someone told me that it was not uncommon in those days to call >someone by the name "Jr" if they had the same name as someone older in the >area - whether they were the son of that person or not. If that is the >case here, "John Jr." probably refers to a younger cousin of my John who >was named John C. Roper. At long last I come to my question: Has anyone >else ever heard of calling someone Jr. to distinquish them someone older >with the same name? > >David Roper > >David L. Roper >1112 Judson Ave. >Judsonia AR 72081 >(501) 729-4414 > > > >==== GAFORSYT Mailing List ==== >Donna's Tip: A timeline is the easiest and most accurate way >to keep track of your research. >

David, It could also be a Second son Named John Roper JR after the First one Passed away, as a Infant.I have seen that in a few Families. [email protected] Richard

--part1_0.3df5a829.2538e71c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_0.3df5a829.2538e71c_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: [email protected] From: [email protected] Full-name: Katemar Message-ID: <[email protected]> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 16:17:10 EDT Subject: (GAFORSYT-L) opinion and Guesses To: [email protected] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 You might find this interesting: AN OLD NAMING PATTERN (taken from "Ancestors Unlimited." The first son was named after the Father's Father. The second son was named after the Mother's Father. The third son was named after the Father. The fourth son was named after the Father's eldest Brother. The first daughter was named after the Mother's Mother. The second daughter was named after the Father's Father. The third daughter was named after the Mother. The fourth daughter was named after the Mother's eldest Sister. The above naming pattern ws usually called the "Dutch" system. The German system was to use a common first name for two or more children. And use the middle name was their "everyday name." Some things to consider as you search: "Mrs." used with a woman's name did not always means she was married, this was used if she had wealth, and was the proper way to address her. "Mr./Mister" was used only for men of wealth and /or education/ a retired man might be listed as a "Gentleman." "Jr." after a name did not always mean that his father had the same name: it might bow an uncle or older cousin. "Step, other" was sometimes called "mother-in-law" in colonial time. "Cousin" could be a relative of any degree, sometimes called a friend. "Uncle" might refer to a close family friend, not related. In early wills, "son-in-law" could mean stepson as well as the spouse of a daughter. "Nephew" sometimes meant grandson or granddaughter, as well as "nephew" as sometimes we use it today. The word "housekeeper" once meant property owner, and could be used for a male as well as female. "Domestic" once meant the housewife, not necessarily a servant. "Inmate" as used in the Pennsylvania archives, refers to a man living in the home of another person, and not necessarily in an instution. In the same book "Freeman" means a young man, not yet married. --part1_0.3df5a829.2538e71c_boundary--

It is my understanding that in earlier times the term Jr. was used to distinguish which of two men one was referring to - the younger of the two men with the same name. The men may or may not have been related to each other. Pat On Fri, 15 Oct 1999 09:24:09 -0600 "David L. Roper" <[email protected]> writes: >My ggg-grandparents John and Tabitha Roper were members of the >Friendship >Baptist Church in Forsyth County. Another member listed is "John >Roper >Jr." John had a son named John - but that was years later. The term >"John >Roper Jr" also does not fit any other John Roper at that time that I >know >about. Someone told me that it was not uncommon in those days to call >someone by the name "Jr" if they had the same name as someone older in >the >area - whether they were the son of that person or not. If that is >the >case here, "John Jr." probably refers to a younger cousin of my John >who >was named John C. Roper. At long last I come to my question: Has >anyone >else ever heard of calling someone Jr. to distinquish them someone >older >with the same name? > >David Roper > >David L. Roper >1112 Judson Ave. >Judsonia AR 72081 >(501) 729-4414 > > > >==== GAFORSYT Mailing List ==== >Donna's Tip: A timeline is the easiest and most accurate way >to keep track of your research. > ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

My John Roper was married to Tabitha Roper in the 1850 Forsyth County census. In 1856 he married Amy Elizabeth Reid and is listed with her in the 1860 Forsyth County census. Tabitha had one more child, named Sarah, in 1854, so we assumed that she died between 1854 and 1856. But then Annette Bramblett sent us a list of the Friendship Baptist Church membership list that indicates that Tabitha remained a member of that church until 1877. Does this mean that old John dumped (divorced) Tabitha to marry a younger woman? Or is there some other possible explanation? David Roper David L. Roper 1112 Judson Ave. Judsonia AR 72081 (501) 729-4414

My ggg-grandparents John and Tabitha Roper were members of the Friendship Baptist Church in Forsyth County. Another member listed is "John Roper Jr." John had a son named John - but that was years later. The term "John Roper Jr" also does not fit any other John Roper at that time that I know about. Someone told me that it was not uncommon in those days to call someone by the name "Jr" if they had the same name as someone older in the area - whether they were the son of that person or not. If that is the case here, "John Jr." probably refers to a younger cousin of my John who was named John C. Roper. At long last I come to my question: Has anyone else ever heard of calling someone Jr. to distinquish them someone older with the same name? David Roper David L. Roper 1112 Judson Ave. Judsonia AR 72081 (501) 729-4414

In a message dated 10/15/99 9:26:03 AM US Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << Annette Bramblett sent us a list of the Friendship Baptist Church membership list that indicates that Tabitha remained a member of that church until 1877. Does this mean that old John dumped (divorced) Tabitha to marry a younger woman? Or is there some other possible explanation? >> I would check the 1860 and 1870 census for Tabitha.If she is not there then she probibly died and no one took heroff the chirch list Thomas H. Lindsay

In a message dated 10/15/99 9:25:55 AM US Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << Someone told me that it was not uncommon in those days to call someone by the name "Jr" if they had the same name as someone older in the area - whether they were the son of that person or not. >> Sometimes when a child died .another child would be given the same name. Thomas H. Lindsay

The Clayton Co., GA library in Jonesboro, GA also has a copy of the FINCHER BOOK . The book is no longer is print from the original printer in SC as per the info I received when I tried to secure a copy several years ago. June

  William A. Allen was in at least three units during the Civil war. He was appointed 3rd Sergeant of Co. I, 3rd Regiment of Ga. State Troops Oct 8th, 1861.That unit known as Forsyth county Wildcats was commanded by Capt Henry L. Cunningham.   Roll dated April 7th, 1862 last on file shows him present. Mustered out April 1862. Enlisted as a private in Co. G, 56th Regiment, Ga. Infantry May 3rd, 1862. Elected 2nd Lieutnant Dec 15th, 1862. Wounded in left eye, resulting in loss of sight at Vicksburg, Miss. on June 15th, 1863. He was captured on July 4th 1863 and remained a prisoner of war until July 11th 1863 when he was paroled. Elected 1st Lieutnant Feb 1864. (After fighting in the siege of Vicksburg, he fought in the Atlanta Campaign. After the war when he was taken to the Cyclorama for the first time, he fainted it was so realistic.) Sometime during this service he served in Company E. 56th Regiment Georgia Volunteer Infantry, Army of Tennessee, C. S. A., Fulton County Georgia   Below is a Co. Roster J. F. ALBERT, Captain S. T. MOORE, 1st Lieutenant J. T. BLACKSTOCKS, 2nd Lieutenant Leroy GRIFFIN, Jr., 2nd Lieutenant D. C. COKER, 1st Sergeant Cornelius BROWN, 3rd Sergeant G. W. BLACKSTOCKE, 4th Sergeant J. M. STANLEY, 5th Sergeant Jeptha PATTERSON, 1st Corporal W. T. HAMBRY, 3rd Corporal Stephen BROWN, 4th Corporal   PRIVATES   R. B. BARTLETT Thomas ALDRIDGE William ALLEN C. BARRY N. P. BURNHAM William BISHOP D. D. BLACKSTOCKE J. A. BLACKSTOCKE J. J. BLACKSTOCKE W. W. BLACKSTOCKE James BROWN J. F. BROWN Peter BROWN Thomas BROWN Abner BURKS Joseph BURKS J. B. BURNS Samuel BURNES S. S. BURNES H. R. BURNETT C. H. CALDWELL H. P. CAPEHART John B. CLARKE H. L. COGBURN S. C. COLE E. D. COLEY C. C. CONNART C. M. COOK Nathan N. COPPER W. R. DANIEL John DAVIS E. W. DODSON H. C. DODSON W. D. DODSON Richard DECORCEY W. H. DUNSON M. A. ESTES Z. G. L. ESTES L. C. FARRIS Asa FOWLER Solomon FRANK W. P. GERRARD G. W. GOLDEN J. J. GOLDEN W. F. GOLDEN B. F. GOLDING Jerimiah GOULDING R. G. B. GRIFFIN W. P. GRIFFIN W. J. GRIFFIN W. J. HART John HEWITT James INZER J. L. INZER W. J. INZER T. M. JOHNSON John KENNEDY A. J. KYLE P. A. LACEY J. W. LACHEY W. E. LAMBERT W. J. LAMBERT Isom T. LONG T. N. MCMULLEN P. M. MCMULLEN L. R. MANNING J. T. MOORE S. N. MOORE W. W. MOORE J. M. MEDLOCK Geo W. MORSE J. PATTERSON George W. PERVIS H. H. PHILLIPS F. J. POLK S. V. QUICK T. J. RAGLAND P. G. RAGSDALE Thomas REYNOLDS A. L. ROBINSON B. F. ROBINSON J. L. ROBINSON J. S. ROBINSON T. C. ROBINSON J. S. RUSSELL Henry SHAFER A. J. SELLARS A. A. SMITH J. W. SMITH W. O. SMITH W. D. STANFORD C. W. STEPHENS W. STOKES J. J. TOWNSEND Bennett TUGGLE Samuel VALENTINE W. T. WATTS W. A. WELLS G. F. WILKINSON H. R. WILKINSON T. F. WILLIAMSON G. J. WOOTEN J. T. WOOTEN W. S. WOOTEN .

A list of common names and their nicknames are on this page http://www.tngenweb.org/franklin/frannick.htm Donna

Got this from another list. This is brand new. There may be a few bugs yet, but there's a message board where the fellow taking care of the GEDs is posting responses to the suggestions. And he is fast. You can now upload your GEDCOMs to Rootsweb!!!!! Here's the URL: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/

Longstreet Cemetery is located on the south side of Campground Road. Campground Road turns west off Hwy 9 opposite Midway Church. From 400 you would take McFarland Road west to Hwy 9 then turn right (north) and go up. New Harmony you turn north off 20 just before the Cherokee Co. line onto Heardsville Rd. the cemetery will be on the right hand side just past Pisgah Rd.

I was hoping that someone might be able to tell me where New Harmony Baptist Church and Longstreet Baptist Church are located? I am trying to locate the cemetaries there. I have relatives ( Richards) that are buried at both sites. thanks stacy