Olivia.. What you say in the last paragraph about problems with Bible records, etc is, of course, true....but to a limited extent in comparison with just 'hearsay' or passed along errors.... What I was really referring to was govt/court /count and state records in which mistakes are fare more rare..... I know that you know what I mean and that you, yourself, are able to distinguish fact from fiction far more easily than most.......but I just hope people don't read that last paragraph and think that verification doesn't matter at all....... wve -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Olivia & Larry Braddy Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 8:58 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [GAEMANUE] WEB SITES Problems in Authenticity and LackofCitations This is basically the way I keep my files, too. I never totally disregard something from another researcher, even online, but I do make a note of who it is (if the name or e-mail address is available) and/or where it can be found (the URL). Then if more information comes to light later, that is added, as well. The hope is that somewhere down through the years, possibly by posterity, the facts will present themselves. I must admit I didn't always save my sources, but since so much is now available on the Internet, and we're relying more and more on that vast source rather than doing the footwork ourselves (the old way), I feel we should be more diligent about our notekeeping. Regarding "rare books," I own a few of those and have found many errors in them. After all, they're written by human beings, not God Himself. Bible records are often wrong because the notations are sometimes entered at a much later date than the event, many times by an in-law or someone who just didn't know the facts; this is the same thing that has happened in the death certificates: the information is only as good as the knowledge of the informant. Gravestones, too, are many times in error because they're erected at a later date by someone who doesn't have the facts. Olivia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clyde Hooks" <[email protected]> To: "wvedenfield" <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]>; "Nancy Crawford" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [GAEMANUE] WEB SITES Problems in Authenticity and Lack ofCitations >I have found mistakes in everything, tombstones, obituaries, Family > Bibles, all courthouse records, genealogy books, etc. I usually accept > something until someone says differently. Then, I try to resolve the > differences. I'm not always successful. Then, I put a note about the > differences. Too many people believe something because they saw it in a > book. Just because it's written in a Bible doesn't mean that it's as > true as the books of the Bible. Be ready to fight when you tell someone > that what they believe is wrong. > > Clyde > > wvedenfield wrote: > >> I'm amused and embarrassed at the misinterpretation of the phrase >> 'trained historian'................I have degrees in history from the >> University of Georgia (won the top award for exellence in GA/colonial >> history)......the 'training' was on site working in the Georgiana >> Collection (archives, rare books, and manuscripts related to GA >> history) in the UGA library, then as archivist at Virginia Military >> Institute and many years more after that....... >> >> >> >> The 'training' is most effective in the learning of what is called >> 'methodology'...........for instance, that matters written down, in >> these days often 'on line' should be accompanied by citations >> /sources...........without that?? Then many readers will simply >> assume that whatever they see in print on a web site is fact.....and >> then it spreads farther and farther until it grows and becomes deeply >> established " fact" and difficult to correct or to stop.... >> >> >> >> This has grown out of control with the computer age. >> >> >> >> No method for differentiating a known, proven (by sources, documents) >> fact when entered on line from a date or a name passed along in >> print with no citation. >> >> >> >> How to fix this? I've been told that it's not a real problem....."We >> want everyone to put in what they know...."........that doesn't hold >> water because most readers accept outright whatever they see in >> print...............and then spread it >> >> >> >> Even historic organizations with excellent programs and intentions >> often don't realize this. There is a marker at Hawhammock Church >> commemorating the revolutionary service of Daniel Boatright. It is a >> handsome monument and a source of pride for all of his descendants. >> But it is not worded to make clear that he is not actually buried >> there. Since that monument was erected numerous writings have stated >> that DB is buried at Hawhammock. >> >> >> >> How to improve and strengthen family history shared and researche on >> the web? Perhaps those writing could use formatting to differentiate >> what they can back with citations (from documents) from what they have >> seen in writing or heard but cannot back up......for instance italics >> for the latter. >> >> >> >> There is going to be a tremendous problem with incorrect family >> history as years go by..... >> >> >> >> V. Edenfield >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bo Mosley >> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 3:36 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [GAEMANUE] Margaret Braswell, wife of Daniel Boatwright >> >> >> >> I would be interested in what it takes to be a history trainer and is it >> >> the same trainer for genealogy. Where are they located and what >> classes do >> >> they offer? >> >> Bo Mosley of Macon, Georgia >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Olivia & Larry Braddy" <[email protected]> >> >> To: <[email protected]> >> >> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 2:44 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [GAEMANUE] Margaret Braswell, wife of Daniel Boatwright >> >> >> >> >> >>> Who was your trainer? I might be interested in procuring their services. >> >>> Olivia >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> [V. Edenfield] >> >>>> >> >>>> Are you a descendant? 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