In 1805 two Duttons, Thomas and James, participated in the 1805 Ga. Lottery from Elbert Co.� Thomas and James are found on the 1820-1840 census in Elbert County.� Thomas evidently died between 1840-1850 and James went to Meriwether Co. bef. the 1850 census. Thomas had a total of 14 children, eight boys and 6 girls.� I have identified about half of those children as:� William, b. abt 1792 went to Gwinnett Co.; Samuel b. abt 1794; Thomas b. abt 1797 went to Floyd Co.then AL; Henry b. abt 1799 went to Floyd Co, then AL; James, b. abt 1800, went to Anderson Co. SC; Andrew Jackson b. abt 1802, went to Floyd Co.; and Elizabeth b. abt 1810, m. Wiley Franklin and they went to Gwinnett Co. I believe that Thomas and James were sons of Daniel Dutton found on the 1790 Greenville S.C. census records.� If anyone has any information on Duttons in these areas, PLease contact me!� Thanks.� Sue

In a message dated 9/10/99 9:49:49 PM Central Daylight Time, JeffreyAPSmith@email.msn.com writes: << Does anyone know which counties were in the general area of Elbert Co, which is now Hart Co. GA?? >> According to the Everton Publisher's Handy Book for Genealogists, Hart was formed in 1853 from Elbert and Franklin. Elbert was formed from Wilkes and Franklin was formed from Cherokee Lands. Hope this helps. Sherry Ledlow

Can anyone tell me what became of Drury CHRISTIAN, son of Robert and Lucy (BRADLEY) CHRISTIAN? According to extracted parish records of St. James Northam Parish, Goochland Co. VA, he married Lucy WILLIAMS in 1751 and had the following children: James bp. 23 Apr 1758 Gideon bp. 28 Sep 1760 Ann bp. 8 Apr 1764 Drury bp. 12 Oct 1766 I have seen some researchers messages that say he also had children named Mary b. ca 1753, William b. ca 1770, Frances b. ca 1778 and Jesse b. ca 1780. These researchers also say that he may have moved to NC but they don't provide proof of this or mention if he died in NC or elsewhere. Can anyone help with this? The reason I ask is this: Volume 8 (July 1982) of "Christian Family Chronicles" mentions that Robert CHRISTIAN may have had a posthumous son named James G. CHRISTIAN, born in 1749. The only reasoning for this is the wording of Robert's will, which mentioned his wife Lucy and said "should she be with child." What the author failed to understand is that this was a very common phrase in the wills of men whose wives were still of child-bearing age. If she had been pregnant, the will would have said "the child she now carries" or words to that effect. I have seen many examples of both types of wills. So, that said, the newsletter goes on to say that James CHRISTIAN married Lucy BRADLEY "probably about 1780 and probably in Buckingham County, Virginia." That would mean that he was about 31 when he married, which was unusually old for a first marriage, unless his marriage was delayed by the Rev War -- which is a possibility. However, the newsletter also mentions that James' son William B. CHRISTIAN was probably their oldest son and was born 1780-1783, based on census records and GA land lottery lists, and "his father James was born, in all likelihood, before 1763 and more probably 1750-1760." My question is this -- is it possible that the newsletter article is missing a generation? Is it possible that the line goes like this: Robert CHRISTIAN & Lucy BRADLEY Drury CHRISTIAN (b. ca 1730) & Lucy WILLIAMS James CHRISTIAN (b. 1758) & Lucy BRADLEY William Bradley CHRISTIAN (b. 1780-1783) & Sarah H. POSEY I descend from William Bradley CHRISTIAN's daughter, Lucy Jane CHRISTIAN. She and her twin sister, Eliza Frances CHRISTIAN, were born in 1819 in Elbert Co. GA. I appreciate any input on this. Vickie Elam White

Elbert was part of Wilkes County and Wilkes included parts of Banks, Oglethorpe, Lincoln, Clarke and Madison before it was downsized.

Sorry for the need to retype, but the correct address of the webpage is: http://www.hartcom.net/~scv935/grey Tom -----Original Message----- From: Tom Brown <tbrown@hartcom.net> To: GAELBERT-L@rootsweb.com <GAELBERT-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, September 11, 1999 5:39 AM Subject: Re: [GAELBERT] Flat Shoals Cemetery >Gale, >My family intermarried into the Elias Sanders Family line and thought I >would answer what questions I could that you asked. Elias Sanders lived on >Big Lightwoodlog Creek according to John Baker's "History of Hart County" >written in 1933. Mr Baker had personal knowledge of some of the older >children of Elias Sanders and tells about them in his book. If I am not >mistaken, at least parts of Lightwoodlog Creek served as the county boundary >between Elbert and Franklin Counties before the forming of Hart County. >Some of my ancestors that lived on it lived on opposite sides of the Creek >and one would be in Elbert and the other in Franklin County. The creek >flowed into the Savannah River which is the boundary line with South >Carolina. This area is very near the South Carolina boundary and many of >these people moved back and forth across the river between the area now know >as Hart County and Anderson county, SC. Sardis Church stands only a couple >of miles from the state line. The church is in current Hart County, but was >originally in Elbert County. > >As for Flat Shoals Cemetery, I know that I have been there and will have to >look for some information on it. I can't remember at this hour where it was >for sure. Hart County has a good cemetery book, but it is in alphabetical >order making it difficult to try to determine who is in a certain cemetery. >Also there is a cemetery book on Elbert County, but only those who died >prior to 1919 are listed in that book. It is also in alphabetical order. > >As for the marker you mentioned, the "DAR" marker is used to mark the graves >of Revolutionary Soldiers, so James Sanders could not be marked with that. >If he was a Confederate Soldier in the War Between the States, he could have >either an "Iron Cross", which was placed on his grave by the United >Daughters of the Confederacy, or a military marker indicating his service. >The best authoritative source on the Confederate soldiers of Northeast >Georgia is Karen Ledford, author of the series of books, "These Men Wore >Grey" She has either written, or is in the process of compiling, books on >all the counties of Northeast Georgia that we are discussing. Elbert and >Hart Counties are in the future year or two for publication and she has >completed six books to date. Her webpage can be viewed at >"http//www.hartcom.net/~scv935/grey" It can give you information on her >work. > >If I can be of any further assistance, please let me know. >Tom Brown >Toccoa, GA >-----Original Message----- >From: Jeff Smith <JeffreyAPSmith@email.msn.com> >To: GAELBERT-L@rootsweb.com <GAELBERT-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Saturday, September 11, 1999 1:33 AM >Subject: [GAELBERT] Flat Shoals Cemetery > > >>I have a lot of questions about the Elbert Co. If anyone can answer >>any of these questions, please do. >> >>1. Flat Shoals Cemetery--where is it and where can I get >> names of the buried. Is there a James C SANDERS born >> about 1830 m Rachel SANDERS? I've been told he has a >> marker from "dar" as he fought in the Civil War. I've been >> checking pension records and haven't found his name yet. >> >>2. Sardis Church--what is the history of the church, like, who >> founded it, was land donated by someone and who were >> they? Are there records of the members? >> >>3. What area of Elbert Co. would i find "Big Lightwood Log >> Creek" and any details that will show me if it was near >> any part of the Carolinas? Any details. Location. >> >>4. Looking for records on court disputes over land in Elbert >> Co Ga. There was a boundary dispute over headright >> lands. Does anyone have copies of records? >> >> >>The lines i'm searching are: SANDERS, CARTER, TOTMAN (TROTMAN?), >>MILLER from the Elbert Co area and surrounding states. >> >>Gale Sanders >> >> >> >>==== GAELBERT Mailing List ==== >>Wilkes County Clerk (706) 678-2523 >>23 East Court Street >>Washington, GA 30673-1516 >> > > >==== GAELBERT Mailing List ==== >Elbert County Library (706) 283-5373 >345 Heard Sreet >Elberton, GA 30635 >

Gale, My family intermarried into the Elias Sanders Family line and thought I would answer what questions I could that you asked. Elias Sanders lived on Big Lightwoodlog Creek according to John Baker's "History of Hart County" written in 1933. Mr Baker had personal knowledge of some of the older children of Elias Sanders and tells about them in his book. If I am not mistaken, at least parts of Lightwoodlog Creek served as the county boundary between Elbert and Franklin Counties before the forming of Hart County. Some of my ancestors that lived on it lived on opposite sides of the Creek and one would be in Elbert and the other in Franklin County. The creek flowed into the Savannah River which is the boundary line with South Carolina. This area is very near the South Carolina boundary and many of these people moved back and forth across the river between the area now know as Hart County and Anderson county, SC. Sardis Church stands only a couple of miles from the state line. The church is in current Hart County, but was originally in Elbert County. As for Flat Shoals Cemetery, I know that I have been there and will have to look for some information on it. I can't remember at this hour where it was for sure. Hart County has a good cemetery book, but it is in alphabetical order making it difficult to try to determine who is in a certain cemetery. Also there is a cemetery book on Elbert County, but only those who died prior to 1919 are listed in that book. It is also in alphabetical order. As for the marker you mentioned, the "DAR" marker is used to mark the graves of Revolutionary Soldiers, so James Sanders could not be marked with that. If he was a Confederate Soldier in the War Between the States, he could have either an "Iron Cross", which was placed on his grave by the United Daughters of the Confederacy, or a military marker indicating his service. The best authoritative source on the Confederate soldiers of Northeast Georgia is Karen Ledford, author of the series of books, "These Men Wore Grey" She has either written, or is in the process of compiling, books on all the counties of Northeast Georgia that we are discussing. Elbert and Hart Counties are in the future year or two for publication and she has completed six books to date. Her webpage can be viewed at "http//www.hartcom.net/~scv935/grey" It can give you information on her work. If I can be of any further assistance, please let me know. Tom Brown Toccoa, GA -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Smith <JeffreyAPSmith@email.msn.com> To: GAELBERT-L@rootsweb.com <GAELBERT-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, September 11, 1999 1:33 AM Subject: [GAELBERT] Flat Shoals Cemetery >I have a lot of questions about the Elbert Co. If anyone can answer >any of these questions, please do. > >1. Flat Shoals Cemetery--where is it and where can I get > names of the buried. Is there a James C SANDERS born > about 1830 m Rachel SANDERS? I've been told he has a > marker from "dar" as he fought in the Civil War. I've been > checking pension records and haven't found his name yet. > >2. Sardis Church--what is the history of the church, like, who > founded it, was land donated by someone and who were > they? Are there records of the members? > >3. What area of Elbert Co. would i find "Big Lightwood Log > Creek" and any details that will show me if it was near > any part of the Carolinas? Any details. Location. > >4. Looking for records on court disputes over land in Elbert > Co Ga. There was a boundary dispute over headright > lands. Does anyone have copies of records? > > >The lines i'm searching are: SANDERS, CARTER, TOTMAN (TROTMAN?), >MILLER from the Elbert Co area and surrounding states. > >Gale Sanders > > > >==== GAELBERT Mailing List ==== >Wilkes County Clerk (706) 678-2523 >23 East Court Street >Washington, GA 30673-1516 >

I have a lot of questions about the Elbert Co. If anyone can answer any of these questions, please do. 1. Flat Shoals Cemetery--where is it and where can I get names of the buried. Is there a James C SANDERS born about 1830 m Rachel SANDERS? I've been told he has a marker from "dar" as he fought in the Civil War. I've been checking pension records and haven't found his name yet. 2. Sardis Church--what is the history of the church, like, who founded it, was land donated by someone and who were they? Are there records of the members? 3. What area of Elbert Co. would i find "Big Lightwood Log Creek" and any details that will show me if it was near any part of the Carolinas? Any details. Location. 4. Looking for records on court disputes over land in Elbert Co Ga. There was a boundary dispute over headright lands. Does anyone have copies of records? The lines i'm searching are: SANDERS, CARTER, TOTMAN (TROTMAN?), MILLER from the Elbert Co area and surrounding states. Gale Sanders

Does anyone know which counties were in the general area of Elbert Co, which is now Hart Co. GA?? If anyone can do a look up on deed's, in the area of Rutherford Co, NC let me know. I have ancestor Elias SANDERS with land in Elbert Co by 1808. Information just found indicates deed filed in Rutherford Co, NC, in 1891. Could anyone explain the difference in time of waiting to file the deed? The book is listed as Rutherford Co. NC Deed Index, Grantor-Grantee, by W D Floyd. I would like to get to know the names of any and all surrounding counties so that I might trace my ancestor back to his birthplace and family. Was there part of NC or SC that became part of GA and vice versa? Tradition says Elias came from Maryland but he could have been from anywhere for all we know, at this time. No proof found yet as to his parents/siblings/other family. Any help always appreciated!! Gale Sanders

I have two questions concerning the Land Lotteries. I had been under the impression that once a person drew lots in a lottery that he/she couldn't draw again. Yet an ancestor of mine supposedly drew lots in 1805, 1806 (I guess the author really meant 1807), and 1821. Was a person really only supposed to draw once? Secondly, could someone possibly check the 1805, 1807 and 1821 Elbert Co. GA lottery lists for my ancestor, William B. CHRISTIAN? Where was the land he received in these lotteries? He probably sold the land he received in 1805 and 1807, since he stayed in Elbert Co. but he may have moved on to the land he received in 1821 because he seems to have left Elbert Co. soon after that. I appreciate any help you can give. Vickie Elam White

In a message dated 09/05/1999 10:24:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time, MDriskill@worldnet.att.net writes: > I am going to send this to the list so it will go in the Archive for > anyone else interested in the ELLIS surname. Thanks for the information on the Ellis surname, Margaret. By coincidence, it appears on the morning after I was quizzing my 80+ yr.old mom on her aunt Ellis Vaughan, about whom she remembers nothing except her name. Ellis Vaughan was born to Isaac G. Vaughan and his wife Frances L. Lunsford in 1879 in Elbert County, GA. I only know this because she is in the 1880 Elbert County census, and because my mom remembers her mother speaking of a sister named Ellis and another sister named Dora. There is no marriage record in Elbert County for an Ellis Vaughan, so I have no idea what happened to her. I also have no idea where the name (for a woman!) came from. There are no Ellis surnames I can find in either the Vaughan/David or Lunsford/Brown ancestries of Ellis Vaughan. If anyone is researching an Ellis Vaughan born in GA in 1879, I would very much like to hear from you. Thanks Deanna

Researchers: I am searching for some type of confirmation that Sarah Rice My GGG Grandmother who married Gaines Thompson in Madison Co., Alabama is the daughter of LEONARD AND SARAH RICE (Rev. Soldier, buried at Holly Springs Bapt. Church ) in Elbert Co. Gaines Thompson was a veteran of the War of 1812 and I have recently acquired Sarah's application for a widow's pension which gives their marriage date and location. My Thompson line were from Chesterfield Co., Va. and stem from Robert Thompson to son JOHN FARLEY THOMPSON: to son ISHAM THOMPSON: to son GAINES THOMPSON. John Farley Thompson's brothers and children moved on to Madison Co., Alabama (Huntsville) before 1820. Evidently Gaines went with them and then came back to Elbert Co. as he and Sarah are enumerated in the 1820 Elbert Co. census. I have acquired some DAR papers on Leonard Rice and in the list of children on the lady's application it gives a daughter "SALLIE". They give a birth year of appox. 1800. From my research my Sarah was born about 1796 which would fit the time frame perfectly. The reason I believe they are connected is that the Thompsons and the Rices lived in the same proximity in the Elbert/Madison Co. area. Gaines and Sarah are buried at Deep Creek Baptist Church. Holly Springs Church is not all that far from Deep Creek. Any help appreciated. Karen T. Ledford/Toccoa, Ga. "http://www.hartcom.net/~scv935/grey"

> Can someone answer a question about the 1860 census: Beneath the listing > of the head of household and the spouse, the next listing, a female, was > listed as age 18, a domestic. Does this mean she could be a daughter or > does "domestic" mean someone other than a family member? > > Janet

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In a message to the Southside VA mailing list, dated 08/29/1999 5:03:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, billd@express-news.net mentioned this book: > "Elbert County, Georgia, Heritage 1790-1997" LC #97-61834 > Printed in USA by Walsworth Publishing Co. Regional Director, Don Mills, > Inc. P.O. Box 34, Waynesville, NC 28786 (704) 452-7600. My apologies if this question has been asked here before (and I'm sure it has) but where can one purchase this book? Thanks for any suggestions Deanna

I have proposed a group project to put Images of the 1870-1920 Madison County Census Records online in the Madison Co GAGenWeb Archives. You can read about this project at http://www.skpub.com/genie/ We now have 10 people committed to help with the 1870-1920 Madison County Census Project. We have revised our proposal to include persons that would only like to help with certain years. If you would be interested in helping with the whole project - or just part of it, please get in contact with me for the details. Mary Love Berryman marylove@tyler.net http://www.tyler.net/mlb/

Forwarded Message Please reply to: Mary Love Berryman - MaryLove@tyler.net I have proposed a group project to put Images of the 1870-1920 Madison County Census Records online in the Madison Co GAGenWeb Archives. You can read about this project at http://www.skpub.com/genie/ We now have 10 people committed to help with the 1870-1920 Madison County Census Project, but need more to make this project possible. We have revised our proposal to include persons that would only like to help with certain years. If you would be interested in helping with the whole project - or just part of it, please get in contact with me for the details. Mary Love Berryman http://www.tyler.net/mlb/

Sorry about doing this. Had a problem with my ISP accounts e-mail. Please disregard. David Anderson

In a message dated 99-08-21 16:00:02 EDT, you write: > > Found at the Elbert County Library, GA, book entitled, "History of > Coldwater Baptist Church," by S. A. Stowers. Question: Did she write > another book or is this the book referred to as "Coldwater Community > of Elbert County, GA?" > > Thank you. > > Peggy Chastain Craft > Peggy, "The History of Coldwater Baptist Church," by S. A. Stowers was a supplemental book only as a history of the Coldwater Baptist Church. It came out about the sametime (1976) as the "The Coldwater Community of Elbert Co.", book she also wrote. David Anderson

Found at the Elbert County Library, GA, book entitled, "History of Coldwater Baptist Church," by S. A. Stowers. Question: Did she write another book or is this the book referred to as "Coldwater Community of Elbert County, GA?" Thank you. Peggy Chastain Craft

If someone is doing lookups in the "History of Elbert Co. 1730 - 1935" , would you please look for a Elisha Parker and Rebecca Turman. Thank you in advance, Elisha is my major brickwall and I have no hair left to pull out because of him. Terry McD.