I know all those I been promosing stuff think I have forgot, well I haven't, I can't find my AVANS chart, so when I get that, will try to get that mailed, am taking the AVANS post office stuff to be copied and hopefully mailed, I may need your mailing address again - also I have two sets of Family Tree Maker CD's, if anyone wants them, pay for postage and I will send, first come first serve, maybe I could send them to the library in Trenton - also I have lots of old genealogy magazines, some Ancestry - want to get rid of those too - delilah