in the photo at the Avans Post Office, he appears to be quite tall, I still have not got that copied yet, if he was full-blood, then his siblings should also be full-blood? I have always heard that the "family" was in the Trail of Tears. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Vance" <paulvance@msn.com> To: <GADADE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 10:45 PM Subject: Re: [GADADE] Avans > Delilah: > Did you ever see Jim Avans? > Did he look Indian? > To be a full blood both his parents had to also be full bloods. Since Jim's father was born about 1827 in Tennessee it would have been before all the Cherokee round up in 1832. It would have been unlikely that a full blood would have been in the area. > It would be a great story if he were living then. > Let me hear what you think of this. > Paul > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Delilah > To: GADADE-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 11:08 AM > Subject: Re: [GADADE] Avans > > > Thats the same one, I knew him as being full-blood Cherokee, a medicine man, > do you know the son name? > delilah > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Vance" <paulvance@msn.com> > To: <GADADE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 12:37 PM > Subject: Re: [GADADE] Avans > > > > No Delilah the James Avans I was referring to was a brother of Thomas > Jefferson Avans. He was either a full brother or a half brother and from > the census records he would be a full brother. > > It gets confusing doesn't it. This Jim was 66 years old in 1930 and was > the father of a 6 year old son. The son was alive last year. From all I > can gather from family stories he left this wife in Knoxville and left with > a younger woman. > > Hope this helps, > > Paul > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Delilah > > To: GADADE-L@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 8:07 AM > > Subject: Re: [GADADE] Avans > > > > > > I wasn't going to Knoxville, I have a person up there who will check > things > > for me, James was one of the children, was he not? > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Paul Vance" <paulvance@msn.com> > > To: <GADADE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 7:57 PM > > Subject: Re: [GADADE] Avans > > > > > > > Delilah: > > > Thomas Jefferson was the one that had children that were living > withsome > > one else in 1910. > > > I am talking about James. > > > It is in the 1930 census. You can check the census anywhere. There > is > > no need to go to Knoxville. I will find the census page number and send > it > > to you. > > > Good hunting, > > > Paul > > > Some of my families: > > > Morgan, Davis, Nichols, Martin, Vance League, Morris, Strait, > Addleman, > > Armitage Prince, Prindle, Ganoe, > > > Whitley, Walker, Bailey, Baker, Bullock, Mean, Mead, Landers, > Countiss, > > Gass, Thompson, Ives, Merriman and quite a few more. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Delilah > > > To: GADADE-L@rootsweb.com > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 3:19 PM > > > Subject: Re: [GADADE] Avans > > > > > > > > > I always heard that one of them had two different families and that > was > > why > > > the EVANS - AVANS - I did find where the children were living with > > another > > > person on the 1910 - where did you get the Knoxville info - got a > person > > > there who can check that > > > delilah > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Paul Vance" <paulvance@msn.com> > > > To: <GADADE-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 3:13 PM > > > Subject: [GADADE] Avans > > > > > > > > > > Delilah, Earleene, Carl, and anyothers interested in Avans. > > > > I had heard from Jim Avans' descendants about his rather wild > life > > after > > > Aunt Sophia died. Also heard that he had two wives after her. > > Sometimes > > > these are just family legends with little truth. > > > > However, there is a James W. Avans, age 66 in 1930, married to a > 22 > > year > > > old woman in Knoxville. This is the right age and it matches part > of > > the > > > story. > > > > Got any ideas. > > > > Paul > > > > Some of my families: > > > > Morgan, Davis, Nichols, Martin, Vance League, Morris, Strait, > > Addleman, > > > Armitage Prince, Prindle, Ganoe, > > > > Whitley, Walker, Bailey, Baker, Bullock, Mean, Mead, Landers, > > Countiss, > > > Gass, Thompson, Ives, Merriman and quite a > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== GADADE Mailing List ==== > > > > Access the GADADE mailing list archive at > > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=GADADE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== GADADE Mailing List ==== > > > Need help writing *excellent* queries? 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