Is there an Amanda Payne d-dec 18,1918 in any of your listings.She was my g grandmother

Yes, there is an Amanda Jane Chadwick who married Isaac Thomas Payne December 12, 1888 in DeKalb Co, AL. I have noted that she was born November 28, 1864, the daughter of William Chadwick and Agga White. I have five known children born to that marriage between 1894 and 1904. I hope you will share what you know of this family and if there were more children than the five I have. If this Amanda is your G-Grandmother, then her death in 1918 would make her about 54 years of age when she passed from this life. Please stay in touch, and thank you for your response. Judith Lohmann Richardson, Texas -----Original Message----- From: CLively735691670@aol.com [mailto:CLively735691670@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 12:41 PM To: GADADE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GADADE] Descendants:Thomas J. Payne (1825-?) and Louisa Powell (1829-?) Is there an Amanda Payne d-dec 18,1918 in any of your listings.She was my g grandmother ==== GADADE Mailing List ==== Post only material you own. When you post to RootsWeb.com, you must either be the copyright holder, have written permission from the copyright holder, or the material must clearly be in the public domain. http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/aup.html

Gil, to answer you question why the spacing between deaths and a funeral service, I really don't know but have a fairly good idea. Both of Thos. Payne's daughters died of typhoid fever as well as other people during that time period. These two deaths were in Jan and Feb (cold months here) and couple that with the fear of typhoid fever spreading, I could understand why they would wait for a service. The funeral service was probably more what we refer today as a memorial service. I've seen other references to funeral services long after a death. Believe it or not, but it was an all day event, food was brought for dinner on the grounds and except for the purpose everyone had a good time. Linda has already answered regarding the Payne burials at Byrd's Chapel. There are a number of unmarked graves but if any records were ever kept we have yet to find them. However, from what I've been told there weren't any kept. There is a Payne Cemetery in Trenton. I don't know of any connection it might have to this Thos Payne family if any. If I come across anything else on them I'll post it for you all. Sue

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Payne, Powell, Long, Chadwick, Hatfield Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ua.2ADI/192 Message Board Post: Many thanks to Deborah Smith for her June 9 query regarding my longstanding interest in identifying the descendants of this subject couple. This timely post seems to have stimulated some very welcomed responses across the readership of this board. I am deeply grateful to each one who has responded in recent days and have been willing to share whatever tidbit they felt was applicable. This is what Genealogy is all about! Each person's contribution, no matter how small, can fill a vital link to piecing a distant family together, again. I have compiled the data from all available sources and am now posting a brief summary of the current collection. Please review for your own interests and don't hesitate to redirect, add to or correct my cumulative data. I intend to pursue this line until we feel we have exhausted all available input. Thanks to each of you and I hope the following data will be of help to more than myself. 1 Thomas J. PAYNE 1825 - 1880 +Louisa Powell 1829 - ....... 2 James Trousdale PAYNE 1849 - ....... 2 John Jones PAYNE 1851 - 1916 ........... +Matilda Willametta Long 1867 - .................. 3 Ida Long PAYNE 1892 - .................. 3 Andrew Stratton PAYNE 1895 - 1986 .................. 3 Theresa Willametta PAYNE 1898 - 1987 ....... 2 Uriah Henry PAYNE 1854 - ........... +Julia E. 1865 - .................. 3 Ruby O. PAYNE 1886 - .................. 3 Vince PAYNE 1890 - .................. 3 Vance PAYNE 1890 - .................. 3 Vaughn PAYNE 1893 - .................. 3 Ruce (sp?) PAYNE1895 - .................. 3 Hazel PAYNE 1898 - ....... 2 Elizabeth Arminda PAYNE 1857 - 1860 ....... 2 Martha Jane PAYNE 1859 - 1880 ........... +E.S Alexander (unconfirmed) ....... 2 Judith Catharine PAYNE 1861 - 1880 ....... 2 Isaac Thomas PAYNE 1864 - 1927 ........... +Amanda Jane Chadwick 1864 - .................. 3 Asa Basil PAYNE 1894 - .................. 3 Verbon Cantrell PAYNE 1897 - .................. 3 Conrad Thomas PAYNE 1899 - 1963 ...................... +Edna Hatfield 1901 - ............................. 4 W.C. PAYNE ................................. +Doris .................. 3 Connie Ann PAYNE 1899 - .................. 3 Idas Conley PAYNE 1904 - ....... 2 Carroll L. PAYNE 1867 -

Sue, wonder why the difference in time between the death months and the funeral sermon month... Jan and Feb to Aug.?? And I love posts like these, wish there were more of them, wonderful glimpse back at the lives of the folks in Dade that many of us recognize the surnames as we search our Dade families. Gil ----- Original Message ----- From: <deerrun@mindspring.com> To: <GADADE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 12:50 PM Subject: [GADADE] Thomas Payne > In looking for some other information I came across the following in our old newspaper: > > Would this be of the same Thomas Payne family you all are researching? > > Do you know when Thomas died and where he is buried? > > Thanks. > > Sue > > January 22, 1880: Miss Juda Payne died Sunday evening. Miss Juda was almost 17 years old at the time of her death. > > February 26, 1880: Died on the 20th, Miss Mattie Payne, Eldest daughter of Mr. Tom Payne. This is the second daughter Mr. Payne has lsot from typhoid fever this year. > > July 29, 1880: Rev. C. M. Campbell will preach the funeral sermon of Mr. Thos. Payne's children on the second Sunday in August, at Byrd's Chapel at 11 o'clock a.m. > > > ==== GADADE Mailing List ==== > Need help writing *excellent* queries? Read > http://www.ancestry.com/library/view/news/articles/503.asp > >

Judith, It might be a good idea to check out the Dekalb Co. boards. If you go to the GenWeb site and post you will be posting on RootsWeb. If you are interested in the Chadwick family, I can help you. That is how I came across the information on the Paynes actually. I have a Chadwick ancestor. I have a survey of the Byrd's Chapel Cemetery and I only saw 4 Paynes buried there. It's a very small cemetery. They are Conrad Payne and his wife and his son W.C. and his wife Doris. Doris was my mother's secretary for several years. Many members of the Conrad Payne family live here in Dade Co. now. Why don't you e-mail me at lanew@tvn.net and I'll send you what you need on the Chadwicks. Linda Hawkins Wilson -----Original Message----- From: GADADE-D-request@rootsweb.com <GADADE-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: GADADE-D@rootsweb.com <GADADE-D@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 5:31 PM Subject: GADADE-D Digest V03 #49

Dear Sue: Please know of my deep appreciation for the news items you have shared today. I am so grateful for your consideration of my long search for any clues to the remnants of this family. At this time, I do not have a date or place for the death of Thomas J. Payne. Now that I have a few more leads, I hope to learn more as we work through these new clues. I will post my findings on the Dade and DeKalb websites as I find more. Sue, what can you tell me about the Byrd Chapel that is referenced in the final news item? Do you have a listing of burials near that site? Perhaps, this was the family's chosen burial place for other members, as well. I have also been told that there is a Payne cemetery in the area--what do you know about its location and holdings? I would like to visit this area in our next trip to Tennessee. Thanks so much for any and all that you find. May God continue His Blessings, Judith Lohmann Richardson, Texas -----Original Message----- From: deerrun@mindspring.com [mailto:deerrun@mindspring.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 12:51 PM To: GADADE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [GADADE] Thomas Payne In looking for some other information I came across the following in our old newspaper: Would this be of the same Thomas Payne family you all are researching? Do you know when Thomas died and where he is buried? Thanks. Sue January 22, 1880: Miss Juda Payne died Sunday evening. Miss Juda was almost 17 years old at the time of her death. February 26, 1880: Died on the 20th, Miss Mattie Payne, Eldest daughter of Mr. Tom Payne. This is the second daughter Mr. Payne has lsot from typhoid fever this year. July 29, 1880: Rev. C. M. Campbell will preach the funeral sermon of Mr. Thos. Payne's children on the second Sunday in August, at Byrd's Chapel at 11 o'clock a.m. ==== GADADE Mailing List ==== Need help writing *excellent* queries? Read http://www.ancestry.com/library/view/news/articles/503.asp

In looking for some other information I came across the following in our old newspaper: Would this be of the same Thomas Payne family you all are researching? Do you know when Thomas died and where he is buried? Thanks. Sue January 22, 1880: Miss Juda Payne died Sunday evening. Miss Juda was almost 17 years old at the time of her death. February 26, 1880: Died on the 20th, Miss Mattie Payne, Eldest daughter of Mr. Tom Payne. This is the second daughter Mr. Payne has lsot from typhoid fever this year. July 29, 1880: Rev. C. M. Campbell will preach the funeral sermon of Mr. Thos. Payne's children on the second Sunday in August, at Byrd's Chapel at 11 o'clock a.m.

Good Morning, Linda: You have my most sincere thanks for sharing the information you found on my Payne family connections from the Dade/DeKalb stateline communities. Since this most recent flurry of activity has surfaced on the Dade Message Board, perhaps I should also renew my interests over in the DeKalb Message Board, as well. Is it better to send my query for that locale to the Rootsweb site for DeKalb Co, or to the GenWeb site? Which is the most active at this time? If you have any extended connections to any of this Payne line, from which you have shared the data, please extend my appreciation to anyone else who might be able to share from their own collection. I will be working harder now on this family--now that I have identified the descendants of two of the siblings--to try and complete my findings so that it can be shared with any who have interest in this line. Perhaps the ones we need to locate are living far away from this family's origin. Do you know if I would be wise to investigate any interest from the Chadwick side of this family? Thanks again, please stay in touch. Judith Lohmann Richardson, Texas -----Original Message----- From: Linda Wilson [mailto:lanew@tvn.net] Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:04 PM To: GADADE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [GADADE] Re: GADADE-D Digest V03 #48 I have this information on the Payne family. I'm not positive about the accuracy. Linda Wilson Descendants of Thomas Payne Generation No. 1 1. THOMAS1 PAYNE was born Abt. 1825 in TN. He married LOUISA POWELL. She was born Abt. 1829 in GA. Children of THOMAS PAYNE and LOUISA POWELL are: i. JAMES F.2 PAYNE, b. Abt. 1850. ii. JOHN J. PAYNE, b. Abt. 1852. iii. URIAH H. PAYNE, b. Abt. 1854. iv. MARTHA J. PAYNE, b. Abt. 1860. v. CATHARINE PAYNE, b. Abt. 1862. 2. vi. ISAAC PAYNE, b. June 09, 1864; d. November 27, 1927, DADE COUNTY, GA. vii. CARROLL L. PAYNE, b. Abt. 1867. Generation No. 2 2. ISAAC2 PAYNE (THOMAS1) was born June 09, 1864, and died November 27, 1927 in DADE COUNTY, GA. He married AMANDA JANE CHADWICK December 12, 1888 in DEKALB CO. , AL, daughter of WILLIAM CHADWICK and AGGA WHITE. She was born November 28, 1864 in DEKALB CO. , AL. Children of ISAAC PAYNE and AMANDA CHADWICK are: i. ASA BASIL3 PAYNE, b. September 15, 1894. ii. VERBON CANTRELL PAYNE, b. January 04, 1897. iii. CONRAD THOMAS PAYNE, b. October 09, 1899, Dekalb Co. , AL; d. March 18, 1963, Dade County, GA; m. EDNA HATFIELD; b. October 19, 1901; d. Dade County, GA. iv. CONNIE ANN PAYNE, b. October 09, 1899. v. IDAS CONLEY PAYNE, b. May 06, 1904. -----Original Message----- From: GADADE-D-request@rootsweb.com <GADADE-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: GADADE-D@rootsweb.com <GADADE-D@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, June 09, 2003 9:00 PM Subject: GADADE-D Digest V03 #48 ==== GADADE Mailing List ==== Don't forget to check out the Dade County Message Board at http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/board/rw/localities.northam.usa.states.geo rgia.counties.dade

I have this information on the Payne family. I'm not positive about the accuracy. Linda Wilson Descendants of Thomas Payne Generation No. 1 1. THOMAS1 PAYNE was born Abt. 1825 in TN. He married LOUISA POWELL. She was born Abt. 1829 in GA. Children of THOMAS PAYNE and LOUISA POWELL are: i. JAMES F.2 PAYNE, b. Abt. 1850. ii. JOHN J. PAYNE, b. Abt. 1852. iii. URIAH H. PAYNE, b. Abt. 1854. iv. MARTHA J. PAYNE, b. Abt. 1860. v. CATHARINE PAYNE, b. Abt. 1862. 2. vi. ISAAC PAYNE, b. June 09, 1864; d. November 27, 1927, DADE COUNTY, GA. vii. CARROLL L. PAYNE, b. Abt. 1867. Generation No. 2 2. ISAAC2 PAYNE (THOMAS1) was born June 09, 1864, and died November 27, 1927 in DADE COUNTY, GA. He married AMANDA JANE CHADWICK December 12, 1888 in DEKALB CO. , AL, daughter of WILLIAM CHADWICK and AGGA WHITE. She was born November 28, 1864 in DEKALB CO. , AL. Children of ISAAC PAYNE and AMANDA CHADWICK are: i. ASA BASIL3 PAYNE, b. September 15, 1894. ii. VERBON CANTRELL PAYNE, b. January 04, 1897. iii. CONRAD THOMAS PAYNE, b. October 09, 1899, Dekalb Co. , AL; d. March 18, 1963, Dade County, GA; m. EDNA HATFIELD; b. October 19, 1901; d. Dade County, GA. iv. CONNIE ANN PAYNE, b. October 09, 1899. v. IDAS CONLEY PAYNE, b. May 06, 1904. -----Original Message----- From: GADADE-D-request@rootsweb.com <GADADE-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: GADADE-D@rootsweb.com <GADADE-D@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, June 09, 2003 9:00 PM Subject: GADADE-D Digest V03 #48

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Payne, Powell, McDaniel Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Ua.2ADI/191.2 Message Board Post: Hello Deborah: Thank you for considering a possible connection in our mutual search for Payne lines. While there is some slight possibility that we are searching for the same Payne family, I do not find any evidence that our Thomas Payne could have been also named George. In fact, I am almost certain he was Thomas J. Payne. I also have an 1850 census enumeration for him and Louisa with their first child (James), born in McMinn Co TN in 1849. I feel that our Thomas J. Payne (born 1825, TN) would have been too young to have been the likely father of your Cecelia, born 1840. Please keep searching and I will continue to watch for any helpful leads in your interest.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Payne, Powell, McDaniel Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Ua.2ADI/191.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you for today's welcomed inquiry. I have long hoped for someone from your family line to discover my Dade County query. According to the 1870 Census for DeKalb Co, AL, our Thomas Payne and Louisa Powell had seven living children at the time of that enumeration. Your John J. Payne was listed in that household as an 18 yr old male, born in GA. He had an older brother (James F.) who was age 20, and a younger brother (Uriah H.) who was age 16. I have not been successful in finding the descendants of any of these three older children---nor any for the younger four children in that same 1870 household. Please be assured that I will be delighted to share information with you, and I do hope you will be able to offer some help with compiling the data on this missing family in our Payne history. Let me know how I can be of help to you in your own interests.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Payne, Powell, Long, Niles, Hopkins Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Ua.2ADI/191.1 Message Board Post: Hi, I am also looking for info on Thomas Payne & Louisa Powell. They may be the parents of John Jones Payne b 16 Aug 1851 d 1916. John married Matilda Willametta Long (Tillie) on 14 Jan 1891 in Dekalb, AL. They had Theresa Willametta Payne 25 Mar 1898 in Rising Fawn, Dade, GA. Theresa is my great grandmother. I haven't been able to confirm much of this info, so if this sounds like the same family you are researching, let me know. Any help would be greatly apreciated.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/5519/Ua.2ADI/97.2 Message Board Post: Judy, I have run across a George & Louisa Payne father of my Ceclia Adeline Payne b-1840. Could your Thomas be a George Thomas or a Thomas George Payne? My e-mail is ddslr1120@hotmail.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/5519/Ua.2ADI/191 Message Board Post: Judy, we may have had a break through on this family. I have run across where my Cecelia Adeline Payne was the daughter of a George & Louisa Payne. Do you know if your Thomas may have been a George Thomas or Thomas George Payne? e-mail me ddslr1120@hotmail.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Ua.2ADI/190.1 Message Board Post: I do have information on this family. I've tried to reply twice and have had problems with my computer. My information is on Clement Clay's parents. Eliza J. was a Lee. Please contact me at lanew@tvn.net for more details. My mother was born and raised at Valley Head also. She is 70 and her name is Verenice Cooper Hawkins. The Hawkinses and Blansits have lots of connections.

Hi Michelle, I didn't have any problems... just clicked on the URL that Gil sent. www.slcl.lib.mo.us/slcl/sc/scc/scc-main.htm You might try to copy and then paste the address in your browser. Good luck... take care. Sue -------Original Message------- From: Michelle Moreland Orlando <graywolf@texas.net> Sent: 05/28/03 04:44 PM To: GADADE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GADADE] Researching Southern Claims Commission Records > > Cannot get to this site. Anyone help? Michelle ==== GADADE Mailing List ==== To post messages to everyone on the list, send your email message to: GADADE-L@rootsweb.com >

Cannot get to this site. Anyone help? Michelle

Gil, thanks for sending this site info... I, for one, wasn't aware that it was up. Dade County had thirteen to apply but only four were approved. I've read the four that were approved but would especially like to read the nine that were disallowed as Gatalin Stevens was one of them. None are related to me but like reading them anyway. Henry Killian Bennett, one of those approved, was extremely hard on his son, Shannon Alexander, (I think was the son's name or something near that), who joined the C.S.A. Army. In fact he disowned him. After the war the son went to AR and as far as I know never returned here. Another one of his son's, Joseph A. Bennett, joined the C.S.A. also but came home after he was released when captured at Vicksburg. Joseph signed a statement that he never really supported the Southern Cause. Funny, but about five/six years ago, I know a man who joined the Sons of Confederate Veterans on Joseph's service record. I don't think he knew of the statements Joseph made on his father's claim. Joseph went on to become Ordinary of Dade County for many years. He had the most beautiful handwriting I've ever seen and I believe I would recognize it anywhere. He also served as Secretary for the Trenton Masonic Lodge, #179, for several years. My gr-gr-grandmother, Eleanor Rawlings, was one of those approved in Walker County. She owned property in the McLemore Cove area and I almost cried when I read her claim as it was so sad. The generations today will never know what hardships their ancestors endured during that terrible War. Thanks again, I appreciated it. Sue -------Original Message------- From: betty or gil allison <bgall@chipshot.net> Sent: 05/27/03 09:29 PM To: GADADE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [GADADE] Researching Southern Claims Commission Records > > I thought I would pass this site along to my fellow GADADErs, new site to me. Open the page and note there is a link to Georgia on this site. The site relates to Researching Southern Claims Commission Records. There are several names from Dade County on this site. Good luck.... Gil <a target=_blank href="http://www.slcl.lib.mo.us/slcl/sc/scc/scc-main.htm">http://www.slcl.lib.mo.us/slcl/sc/scc/scc-main.htm</a> ==== GADADE Mailing List ==== Resubmit your queries periodically to reach new listmembers. >

No, Gil, this is the same Odian Castleberry who was in Dade County for a short time. He moved over into Walker County and it is believed he died there. He first moved into the McLemore Cove area (aka Fricks Gap on earlier censuses) then (I think) over in the Rock Springs area. Could be wrong about that. Betty Johnson, head of the local history and genealogy dept at the LaFayette Library, in LaFayette, GA., is also researching Odian Castleberry. We were talking about him this past Saturday. Sue -------Original Message------- From: betty or gil allison <bgall@chipshot.net> Sent: 05/27/03 09:33 PM To: GADADE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [GADADE] Odian Castleberry > > Someone and I have talked about Odian Castleberry, too much stuff to dig thru to find who that was. In an earlier post I gave the link to Researching Southern Claims Commission Records. When I was looking at the site, I saw under the GA listing of claims, Odian Castleberry. The entry was: Odian Castleberry; claim number 16791; County of Walker (so might be a different Castleberry); and number of fiche on this name, 1. Here is the link again if you missed it: <a target=_blank href="http://www.slcl.lib.mo.us/slcl/sc/scc/scc-main.htm">http://www.slcl.lib.mo.us/slcl/sc/scc/scc-main.htm</a> hope this is good news for someone.... Gil ==== GADADE Mailing List ==== Don't forget to check out the Dade County Message Board at <a target=_blank href="http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/board/rw/localities.northam.usa.states.georgia.counties.dade">http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/board/rw/localities.northam.usa.states.georgia.counties.dade</a> >