do you have anything on milton gass who lived on sand mt.?looking for his parents. earleene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vingina Finley" <finleydfw@netscape.net> To: <GADADE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [GADADE] Clark Ellis, Daniel E. Ellis, Thomas Ellis in South Pittsburg, Marion County, TN. > PAUL: THIS IS ALL I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FIND OR DOCUMENT ON MY BENJAMIN > MARTIN HOWARD (AFTER ALL THESE YEARS) > > Benjamin Martin Howard lived in Jackson County, Alabama; Chattanooga, > Tennessee; Marion County, Tennessee; Union County, South Carolina. > Benjamin Howard sold his land and moved to Indian Territory. Wanda J. > Shelton (granddaughter of Thomas Harvey Howard) obtained the following > information concerning Benjamin Howard - he is listed on the 1850 census > in De Kalb Co, AL.??); He is listed on the 1850 Marion Co, TN. 8th Dist. > page 26. There is a Benjamin Howard on this census.1860 census for > Jackson Co, AL.; 1870 census for Marion Co, TN. The 1860 Jackson, > Alabama census lists Benjamin as being born in Georgia, a Laborer and > $1190 personal property. The 1870 Marion Co, Tennessee Census lists > Benjamin "MARTIN" as being born in Georgia about 1829/1830. > > Benjamin Howard probably married Julia (last name unknown but we believe > her surname might be O'Neal as O'Neals lived in Sequatchie Valley, > Marion County, Tennessee and Dade County, Georgia) in Georgia where Ben > was born. Benjamin raised his family in South Pittsburg, Tennessee, > located in a narrow valley, the beautiful Sequachie Valley, nestled in > the Appalachian Mountains (This land once belonged to the Cherokee > Indians as was Marion County, Alabama. and Dade County, Georgia.). and > Stevenson, Alabama. After the death of his first wife, Julia, Benjamin > married a young widow Rhoda Elizabeth Powell-Steadman who had one son, > Jefferson Davis Steadman. Benjamin Martin Howard died about 1879. > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Oral Howard family history is that the 1st wife of Benjamin Martin > Howard was Choctaw Indian. > Note: Thomas Howard and his wife Letty "Hatchett Grey" Durham ARE NOT > the parents of this Benjamin Martin Howard as has been reported. There > is no documentation as to whom are the parents of Benjamin M. Howard but > definitely Thomas Howard and Letty Durham are not his parents, Letty > Durham was well past "child-bearing" years when our Benjamin Martin > Howard was born in 1829. > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > South Pittsburg, Tennessee is located in a narrow valley, the beautiful > Sequachie Valley, nestled in the Appalachian Mountains. This land once > belonged to the Cherokee Indians as was Marion County, Alabama. and Dade > County, Georgia. Note: Sand Mountain is across the Tennessee River from > Bridgeport, Alabama. It runs from South Pittsburg , Tennessee. to below > Albertville, Alabama. It is a long wide and flat plateau with sandy > soil. A lot of potatoes are grown there. Sand Mountain at one time > (maybe still is) was the mostly densely populated rural area in the > U.S.. Long Island is in the Bridgeport area and used to have a ferry > that ran to it. I am not sure if the island is still above water since > TVA built Guntersville Dam and the lake of the same name. Anyway the > area you are interested in is in Jackson County, Alabama. The county > seat is Scottsboro. Dade County lies in the extreme northwest corner of > Georgia. It is bordered by Tennessee to the north and Alabama to the > west. Dade County was formed in 1837 from the western portion of > Walker County. The county seat is Trenton. > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Check the Marion County, Tennessee records, 1876. Benjamin Howard is > listed on the following Federal Censuses: 1850 DeKalb, Ala., > 1860 Jackson Co, Ala., 1870 Marion Co, TN., 1880 Marion Co, TN. His > widow, Rhoda is listed on the 1900 Federal Census for Hill Co, TX. and > the 1910 Tarrant Co, TX. > > Family members (Joseph Martin Howard) say Ben was from Chattanooga, TN. > Benjamin Martin Howard (or Martin Howard) & family is on the tri-state > federal censuses. > ------------xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Howard found in Dade Co, GA. > 1880 Census: Trenton, Dade Co, GA.; Family History Library Film > 1254142; NA Film Number T9-0142; Page Number 45A > Alfoerd L HOWARD Self M Male W 37 AL Clerk In Store > SC GA 1843 > Mary A. HOWARD Wife M Female W 38 AL Keeping House AL > KY 1842 > Sarah E. HOWARD Dau S Female W 17 AL At School AL AL > 1863 > John P. HOWARD Son S Male W 11 AL At School AL AL > 1869 > William S. HOWARD Son S Male W 3 GA AL AL > 1877 > > Source Information: > Census Place Trenton, Dade, Georgia > Family History Library Film 1254142 > NA Film Number T9-0142 > Page Number 45B > --------- > 1870 Census, Marion County, Tennessee 11th Civil District, 17th day > of June, 1870, Hugh W. Roulston, Asst. Marshall. > HOWARD, MARTIN 40 M W GA. Farmer $400 Benjamin Martin Howard > Rhody 28 F W GA keep house Rhoda Elizabeth POWELL > Steadman Howard-2nd wife of Ben Martin Howard > Cicero 17 M W AL farm labor Son of Ben Martin & Julia > Howard > Alfred 15 M W AL farm labor Son of Ben Martin & Julia > Howard > William 12 M W AL Son of Ben Martin & Julia Howard > Marion 10 M W AL Son of Ben Martin & Julia Howard > Jefferson 9 M W GA Son of Rhoda E. > Powell-Steadman-Howard > Jesse 3 M W TN Son of Ben Martin & Rhoda E. > Howard (named JESSE MARTIN HOWARD) > George W 1 M W TN Son of Ben Martin & Rhoda E. Howard > (named George Washington L. Howard) > (maybe the "L" stands for "LEAGUE" ???? > -------------------------------------------------- > 1821 Land Lottery GA - > Howard, John F. Jackson Knoxs 78 10 Houston > Howard, John F. Jackson Knoxs 86 3 Henry > Howard, David Jasper Pollards 1 1 Monroe > Howard, Joseph Jasper Thorntons 148 7 Dooly > --------------------------------------------------------------------xxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx--------------------------------------------------- -------- > Dekalb and Dade Co., GA. Sand Mtn. runs through all three of these > counties and more. I do have the 1850 Jackson Co. census and I found two > James Howards and one of them may be yours. The most likely is this family: > > Howard, Elias 36 KY > Mahala 28 KY > William 9 KY > James 7 AL > John 2 AL > -------------------------- > JamesThomas Morgan ,, or James Howard,, From Sand Mountain Ala > Posted by: W sanders (ID *****1675) Date: July 08, 2003 at 19:27:13 of 1617 > I am researching the family of William M. Howard,, Born in Bridgeport, > Ala in 1867. I found him on the Jackson co 1880 census, His father > listed as James Howard born 1842 and Mother as Emily born 1848,she was > born in Ala, also, Do you have anything else on James Howard,, They were > said to have lived On Sand Mountain, and were Cherokee,, > William married,, Hester T. Morgan born 1873,, her father was James T. > Morgan born 1848. > If you have anything on the Howards or Morgans,, That Lived in Sand > Mountain in this Era?? > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------- > Posted by: jean moon (ID *****9182) Date: July 25, 2003 at 09:02:41 > In Reply to: Location of Marvin Cemetery Dekalb Co. by Jerrie Howard of 1617 > I THINK YOU ARE REFERRING TO GARVIN CEMETERY BETWEEN KILLPATRICK AND > CROSSVILLE IN DEKALB COUNTY. THERE WAS NO > SIGN POSTED FOR THIS CEMETERY AT MY LAST VISIT. IT IS VISIBLE FROM THE > HWY 68 UNDER A LARGE TREE. EXIT I-59 AT COLLINSVILLE ON HWY 68 TO > CROSSVILLE.CONTINUE TOWARD KILLPATRICK SEVERAL MILES ??? THE CEMETERY IS > ON THE LEFT > ARE YOU LOOKING FOR POWELLS OR JACKSON ? dhjaxson@nehp.net > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > Jackson County, ALABAMA: 1850 Census Index > HOWARD 6B-25A-43A-51B > ONEAL 21B-33A > PAIN 12A > PAINE 30A > > > CENSUS 1850 DEKALB CO, AL > HOWARD 1A-2A-15B-34B > MARTIN 20B-58A-59A-64B-67A-82A-82B > POWEL 37B-77B-79A > POWELL 82B-85B-92A > PAINE 86B-98B > HOWARD 94B > MARTIN 101A-137B-148A-154B-166A > POWELL 126A-152A-152B-164A-165B-173B > HOWARD 131B-132A-132B-147B > PAYNE 134B > POWEL 135A-145B-146A-156A > POWELL 137B-177B-188B-191A-215B-219B > HOWARD 215A > HOWARD 346B-372A-417A-417B > ONEAL 417A-418A > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------- > Note:; I feel comfortable that Julia's maiden name was "O'Neal" as there > is a male named "Beamon O'Neal Howard" in her descendants. vmf > > ----------------------XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX------------------------- > > paulvance@msn.com wrote: > > >Thanks for the info, Virginia. > >Do you know the ancestry of the Benjamin Martin Howard? > >Paul > >Some of my families: > >Morgan, Davis, Nichols, Martin, Vance League, Morris, Strait, Addleman, Armitage Prince, Prindle, Ganoe, > >Whitley, Walker, Bailey, Baker, Bullock, Mean, Mead, Landers, Countiss, Gass, Thompson, Ives, Merriman and quite a few more. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: virginia.finley@bigfoot.com > > To: GADADE-L@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 2:06 PM > > Subject: [GADADE] Clark Ellis, Daniel E. Ellis, Thomas Ellis in South Pittsburg, Marion County, TN. > > > > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > > > Surnames: ELLIS, POWELL, HOWARD, STEADMAN > > Classification: Query > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ua.2ADI/409 > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > Searching for information on a “Clark ELLIS” who appeared on the Federal Census in 1880 for South Pittsburg, Marion County, Tennessee with his wife “Elisa J.” and sons James E, Jacob, Clark Jr, and daughters Nancy E, Mary A, and Katie. Had this Clark ELLIS been married before to a different woman? If so, who? > > > > 1880 CENSUS > > Clark ELLIS Self M Male W 52 TN Laborer TN TN > > Eliza J. ELLIS Wife M Female W 44 TN Keeping House TN TN > > James E. ELLIS Son S Male W 19 TN Laborer TN TN > > Jacob ELLIS Son S Male W 17 TN Laborer TN TN > > Nancy E. ELLIS Dau S Female W 15 TN TN TN > > Clark ELLIS JR. Son S Male W 8 TN TN TN > > Mary A. ELLIS Dau S Female W 6 TN TN TN > > Katie ELLIS Dau S Female W 5 TN TN TN > > > > Source Information: > > Census Place South Pittsburg, Marion, Tennessee > > Family History Library Film 1255269 > > NA Film Number T9-1269 > > Page Number 296C > > > > Clark ELLIS lived next door to Rhoda Elizabeth POWELL who married first a Mr. STEADMAN and second to Benjamin Martin HOWARD. Clark’s father, Thomas ELLIS lived on the other side Rhoda POWELL-HOWARD; Rhoda E. was the sister to Ann POWELL who married Daniel E. ELLIS, brother of Clark Ellis. > > > > Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace > > Rhoda HOWARD Self W Female W 34 GA Keeping House TN TN > > Jefferson SLIDMAN (STEADMAN) Son S Male W 17 GA Laborer GA GA > > Jessie HOWARD Son S Male W 12 TN TN GA > > Washington HOWARD Son S Male W 11 TN TN GA > > Henry HOWARD Son S Male W 5 TN TN GA > > Edward HOWARD Son S Male W 2 TN TN GA > > > > Source Information: > > Census Place South Pittsburg, Marion, Tennessee > > Family History Library Film 1255269 > > NA Film Number T9-1269 > > Page Number 296C > > > > ANY INFORMATION YOU ARE WILLING TO SHARE WILL BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. > > > > > > > > > > ==== GADADE Mailing List ==== > > Post only material you own. When you post to RootsWeb.com, you > > must either be the copyright holder, have written permission from the > > copyright holder, or the material must clearly be in the public domain. > > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/aup.html > > > > > > > > > >==== GADADE Mailing List ==== > >Visit the USGenWeb Dade County site at > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~gadade/index.htm > > > > > > > > -- > Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. > Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! > http://shopnow.netscape.com/ > > > > ==== GADADE Mailing List ==== > Don't forget to check out the Dade County Message Board at > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/board/rw/localities.northam.usa.states.georgia.counties.dade > >

Virginia: Tavner moved to Hamilton Co. between 1838 and 1839 according to his sale of property and acquiring property in Hamilton. I have believed that Jesse Powell, jr was born in TN that Jesse. and Hixie moved at the same Time Tavner did. and that the remainder of their children were born in GA. Below is a copy of the deed where Hixie got the land. This would have been very near Tavner's land. Neither Elizabeth or Emily are in the 1850 census. Dade Co. Ga. Land Book B. p.160 Elizabeth Powell and Emily C. Holmes of Dade Co. sold to Hixie Powell on 19 Aug. 1854 for $5 five acres part of Lot 120 - 10-4 on the East side of Lookout Creek beginning above the Blue Springs on a Black gum tree marked with an "X" and hence running east until you strike the original line between lots 120 and 121 to a stake and hence north to a sugar tree on the bank of the creek marked thus "X" and thence up the meander of the creek to the beginning of the corner first marked. J.L. Powell and J.J. Brown witnessed the deed. Paul Some of my families: Morgan, Davis, Nichols, Martin, Vance League, Morris, Strait, Addleman, Armitage Prince, Prindle, Ganoe, Whitley, Walker, Bailey, Baker, Bullock, Mean, Mead, Landers, Countiss, Gass, Thompson, Ives, Merriman and quite a few more. ----- Original Message ----- From: Vingina Finley To: GADADE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [GADADE] Jesse POWELL & Hixie MARTIN lived Dade County, GA. & Warren County, TN. PAUL: NO, I DO NOT HAVE A MARRIAGE DATE FOR HIXIE MARTIN & JESSE POWELL - CAN YOU SEND IT TO ME - WHERE DID YOU FIND IT. NO, I HAVE NOT SEEN THE DEED IN DADE COUNTY WHERE HIXIE BOUGHT 5 ACRES FROM 520 POWELL WOMEN. DO YOU HAVE A COPY? COULD YOU SEND ME A COPY? I CAN NOT FIND ANCESTORS OF JESSE POWELL - OR OF BENJAMIN MARTIN HOWARD EITHER. VIRGINIA ------------------------------------- paulvance@msn.com wrote: >Virginia: >Does your records show that Hixie and Jesse were married in 1840? That probably means they were married in Warren or De Kalb or Cannon Co. TN. >Have you seen the deed in Dade Co where Hixie bought 5 acres from two Powell women? >One might, might, have been Jesse's mother >Paul >Some of my families: >Morgan, Davis, Nichols, Martin, Vance League, Morris, Strait, Addleman, Armitage Prince, Prindle, Ganoe, >Whitley, Walker, Bailey, Baker, Bullock, Mean, Mead, Landers, Countiss, Gass, Thompson, Ives, Merriman and quite a few more. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: virginia.finley@bigfoot.com > To: GADADE-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 2:16 PM > Subject: [GADADE] Jesse POWELL & Hixie MARTIN lived Dade County, GA. & Warren County, TN. > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: POWELL, MARTIN, HOWARD, ELLIS, STONE > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ua.2ADI/410 > > Message Board Post: > > Still searching for parents and sibling of Jesse POWELL who married Hixie MARTIN. Also I am trying to find date for the marriage of Jesse POWELL to Hixie MARTIN, married between 1834 - 1837. Jesse POWELL was born January 14, 1810 and Hixie MARTIN was born June 26, 1816 in Warren Co, TN. They lived and raised a family in Dade County. > Their known children were > 1) Jesse;moved Hill County, Texas. > 2)Rhoda Elizabeth, marr. Benjamin Joseph HOWARD (after Ben Howard's death Rhoda and all Howard sons moved to Hill, Tarrant County, Texas > 3) Sarah, > 4) William E. married Sarah A.(Unknown);moved Hill County,TX > 5) Judy Ann, married Daniel E. ELLIS, moved later to Texas. > 6) John Tavner who married Emily STONE. > > Robert D. Powell, born June 27, 1855 GA, died April 02, 1938 Smith County, Texas. Buried Union Chapel Cemetery in Smith County, TX. It was in Van Zandt county at the time Ma wrote in her bible. Robert was married to Lula E. (Unknown)born February 01, 1875, died December 21, Smith Co. or Van Zandt Co, Texas, buried Union Chapel Cemetery in Smith County, TX. It was in Van Zandt county at the time Ma wrote in her bible. > > Contact me at virginia.finley@bigfoot.com > > Thanks, > > Any help will be appreciated. > > > ==== GADADE Mailing List ==== > Don't forget to check out the Dade County Message Board at > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/board/rw/localities.northam.usa.states.georgia.counties.dade > > > > >==== GADADE Mailing List ==== >Resubmit your queries periodically to reach new listmembers. > > > -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ ==== GADADE Mailing List ==== Need help writing *excellent* queries? Read http://www.ancestry.com/library/view/news/articles/503.asp

It's Martin Luther King's Day and we're celebrating by marching into the chat room and following our dream of filling in those empty branches on our family tree! Please join me and some other Alabama researchers for an all-state Alabama genealogy chat on Monday night: http://huntsville.about.com/mpchat.htm 9 pm Eastern; 8 pm Central Everyone who is researching in Alabama is welcome to attend. If you've never been to a chat, this is the one for you! If you need detailed instructions, just send me an email and I'll send them to you. If you'd like to be reminded every week, let me know and I'll send you a reminder. You can read previous chat transcripts here: http://huntsville.about.com/cs/genealogy1/a/chatindex.htm Hope to see you Monday evening for a night of new discoveries and information sharing! Jean Brandau huntsville2@comcast.net

PAUL: NO, I DO NOT HAVE A MARRIAGE DATE FOR HIXIE MARTIN & JESSE POWELL - CAN YOU SEND IT TO ME - WHERE DID YOU FIND IT. NO, I HAVE NOT SEEN THE DEED IN DADE COUNTY WHERE HIXIE BOUGHT 5 ACRES FROM 520 POWELL WOMEN. DO YOU HAVE A COPY? COULD YOU SEND ME A COPY? I CAN NOT FIND ANCESTORS OF JESSE POWELL - OR OF BENJAMIN MARTIN HOWARD EITHER. VIRGINIA ------------------------------------- paulvance@msn.com wrote: >Virginia: >Does your records show that Hixie and Jesse were married in 1840? That probably means they were married in Warren or De Kalb or Cannon Co. TN. >Have you seen the deed in Dade Co where Hixie bought 5 acres from two Powell women? >One might, might, have been Jesse's mother >Paul >Some of my families: >Morgan, Davis, Nichols, Martin, Vance League, Morris, Strait, Addleman, Armitage Prince, Prindle, Ganoe, >Whitley, Walker, Bailey, Baker, Bullock, Mean, Mead, Landers, Countiss, Gass, Thompson, Ives, Merriman and quite a few more. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: virginia.finley@bigfoot.com > To: GADADE-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 2:16 PM > Subject: [GADADE] Jesse POWELL & Hixie MARTIN lived Dade County, GA. & Warren County, TN. > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: POWELL, MARTIN, HOWARD, ELLIS, STONE > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ua.2ADI/410 > > Message Board Post: > > Still searching for parents and sibling of Jesse POWELL who married Hixie MARTIN. Also I am trying to find date for the marriage of Jesse POWELL to Hixie MARTIN, married between 1834 - 1837. Jesse POWELL was born January 14, 1810 and Hixie MARTIN was born June 26, 1816 in Warren Co, TN. They lived and raised a family in Dade County. > Their known children were > 1) Jesse;moved Hill County, Texas. > 2)Rhoda Elizabeth, marr. Benjamin Joseph HOWARD (after Ben Howard's death Rhoda and all Howard sons moved to Hill, Tarrant County, Texas > 3) Sarah, > 4) William E. married Sarah A.(Unknown);moved Hill County,TX > 5) Judy Ann, married Daniel E. ELLIS, moved later to Texas. > 6) John Tavner who married Emily STONE. > > Robert D. Powell, born June 27, 1855 GA, died April 02, 1938 Smith County, Texas. Buried Union Chapel Cemetery in Smith County, TX. It was in Van Zandt county at the time Ma wrote in her bible. Robert was married to Lula E. (Unknown)born February 01, 1875, died December 21, Smith Co. or Van Zandt Co, Texas, buried Union Chapel Cemetery in Smith County, TX. It was in Van Zandt county at the time Ma wrote in her bible. > > Contact me at virginia.finley@bigfoot.com > > Thanks, > > Any help will be appreciated. > > > ==== GADADE Mailing List ==== > Don't forget to check out the Dade County Message Board at > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/board/rw/localities.northam.usa.states.georgia.counties.dade > > > > >==== GADADE Mailing List ==== >Resubmit your queries periodically to reach new listmembers. > > > -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/

PAUL: THIS IS ALL I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FIND OR DOCUMENT ON MY BENJAMIN MARTIN HOWARD (AFTER ALL THESE YEARS) Benjamin Martin Howard lived in Jackson County, Alabama; Chattanooga, Tennessee; Marion County, Tennessee; Union County, South Carolina. Benjamin Howard sold his land and moved to Indian Territory. Wanda J. Shelton (granddaughter of Thomas Harvey Howard) obtained the following information concerning Benjamin Howard - he is listed on the 1850 census in De Kalb Co, AL.??); He is listed on the 1850 Marion Co, TN. 8th Dist. page 26. There is a Benjamin Howard on this census.1860 census for Jackson Co, AL.; 1870 census for Marion Co, TN. The 1860 Jackson, Alabama census lists Benjamin as being born in Georgia, a Laborer and $1190 personal property. The 1870 Marion Co, Tennessee Census lists Benjamin "MARTIN" as being born in Georgia about 1829/1830. Benjamin Howard probably married Julia (last name unknown but we believe her surname might be O'Neal as O'Neals lived in Sequatchie Valley, Marion County, Tennessee and Dade County, Georgia) in Georgia where Ben was born. Benjamin raised his family in South Pittsburg, Tennessee, located in a narrow valley, the beautiful Sequachie Valley, nestled in the Appalachian Mountains (This land once belonged to the Cherokee Indians as was Marion County, Alabama. and Dade County, Georgia.). and Stevenson, Alabama. After the death of his first wife, Julia, Benjamin married a young widow Rhoda Elizabeth Powell-Steadman who had one son, Jefferson Davis Steadman. Benjamin Martin Howard died about 1879. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Oral Howard family history is that the 1st wife of Benjamin Martin Howard was Choctaw Indian. Note: Thomas Howard and his wife Letty "Hatchett Grey" Durham ARE NOT the parents of this Benjamin Martin Howard as has been reported. There is no documentation as to whom are the parents of Benjamin M. Howard but definitely Thomas Howard and Letty Durham are not his parents, Letty Durham was well past "child-bearing" years when our Benjamin Martin Howard was born in 1829. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx South Pittsburg, Tennessee is located in a narrow valley, the beautiful Sequachie Valley, nestled in the Appalachian Mountains. This land once belonged to the Cherokee Indians as was Marion County, Alabama. and Dade County, Georgia. Note: Sand Mountain is across the Tennessee River from Bridgeport, Alabama. It runs from South Pittsburg , Tennessee. to below Albertville, Alabama. It is a long wide and flat plateau with sandy soil. A lot of potatoes are grown there. Sand Mountain at one time (maybe still is) was the mostly densely populated rural area in the U.S.. Long Island is in the Bridgeport area and used to have a ferry that ran to it. I am not sure if the island is still above water since TVA built Guntersville Dam and the lake of the same name. Anyway the area you are interested in is in Jackson County, Alabama. The county seat is Scottsboro. Dade County lies in the extreme northwest corner of Georgia. It is bordered by Tennessee to the north and Alabama to the west. Dade County was formed in 1837 from the western portion of Walker County. The county seat is Trenton. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Check the Marion County, Tennessee records, 1876. Benjamin Howard is listed on the following Federal Censuses: 1850 DeKalb, Ala., 1860 Jackson Co, Ala., 1870 Marion Co, TN., 1880 Marion Co, TN. His widow, Rhoda is listed on the 1900 Federal Census for Hill Co, TX. and the 1910 Tarrant Co, TX. Family members (Joseph Martin Howard) say Ben was from Chattanooga, TN. Benjamin Martin Howard (or Martin Howard) & family is on the tri-state federal censuses. ------------xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Howard found in Dade Co, GA. 1880 Census: Trenton, Dade Co, GA.; Family History Library Film 1254142; NA Film Number T9-0142; Page Number 45A Alfoerd L HOWARD Self M Male W 37 AL Clerk In Store SC GA 1843 Mary A. HOWARD Wife M Female W 38 AL Keeping House AL KY 1842 Sarah E. HOWARD Dau S Female W 17 AL At School AL AL 1863 John P. HOWARD Son S Male W 11 AL At School AL AL 1869 William S. HOWARD Son S Male W 3 GA AL AL 1877 Source Information: Census Place Trenton, Dade, Georgia Family History Library Film 1254142 NA Film Number T9-0142 Page Number 45B --------- 1870 Census, Marion County, Tennessee 11th Civil District, 17th day of June, 1870, Hugh W. Roulston, Asst. Marshall. HOWARD, MARTIN 40 M W GA. Farmer $400 Benjamin Martin Howard Rhody 28 F W GA keep house Rhoda Elizabeth POWELL Steadman Howard-2nd wife of Ben Martin Howard Cicero 17 M W AL farm labor Son of Ben Martin & Julia Howard Alfred 15 M W AL farm labor Son of Ben Martin & Julia Howard William 12 M W AL Son of Ben Martin & Julia Howard Marion 10 M W AL Son of Ben Martin & Julia Howard Jefferson 9 M W GA Son of Rhoda E. Powell-Steadman-Howard Jesse 3 M W TN Son of Ben Martin & Rhoda E. Howard (named JESSE MARTIN HOWARD) George W 1 M W TN Son of Ben Martin & Rhoda E. Howard (named George Washington L. Howard) (maybe the "L" stands for "LEAGUE" ???? -------------------------------------------------- 1821 Land Lottery GA - Howard, John F. Jackson Knoxs 78 10 Houston Howard, John F. Jackson Knoxs 86 3 Henry Howard, David Jasper Pollards 1 1 Monroe Howard, Joseph Jasper Thorntons 148 7 Dooly --------------------------------------------------------------------xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx----------------------------------------------------------- Dekalb and Dade Co., GA. Sand Mtn. runs through all three of these counties and more. I do have the 1850 Jackson Co. census and I found two James Howards and one of them may be yours. The most likely is this family: Howard, Elias 36 KY Mahala 28 KY William 9 KY James 7 AL John 2 AL -------------------------- JamesThomas Morgan ,, or James Howard,, From Sand Mountain Ala Posted by: W sanders (ID *****1675) Date: July 08, 2003 at 19:27:13 of 1617 I am researching the family of William M. Howard,, Born in Bridgeport, Ala in 1867. I found him on the Jackson co 1880 census, His father listed as James Howard born 1842 and Mother as Emily born 1848,she was born in Ala, also, Do you have anything else on James Howard,, They were said to have lived On Sand Mountain, and were Cherokee,, William married,, Hester T. Morgan born 1873,, her father was James T. Morgan born 1848. If you have anything on the Howards or Morgans,, That Lived in Sand Mountain in this Era?? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: jean moon (ID *****9182) Date: July 25, 2003 at 09:02:41 In Reply to: Location of Marvin Cemetery Dekalb Co. by Jerrie Howard of 1617 I THINK YOU ARE REFERRING TO GARVIN CEMETERY BETWEEN KILLPATRICK AND CROSSVILLE IN DEKALB COUNTY. THERE WAS NO SIGN POSTED FOR THIS CEMETERY AT MY LAST VISIT. IT IS VISIBLE FROM THE HWY 68 UNDER A LARGE TREE. EXIT I-59 AT COLLINSVILLE ON HWY 68 TO CROSSVILLE.CONTINUE TOWARD KILLPATRICK SEVERAL MILES ??? THE CEMETERY IS ON THE LEFT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR POWELLS OR JACKSON ? dhjaxson@nehp.net -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jackson County, ALABAMA: 1850 Census Index HOWARD 6B-25A-43A-51B ONEAL 21B-33A PAIN 12A PAINE 30A CENSUS 1850 DEKALB CO, AL HOWARD 1A-2A-15B-34B MARTIN 20B-58A-59A-64B-67A-82A-82B POWEL 37B-77B-79A POWELL 82B-85B-92A PAINE 86B-98B HOWARD 94B MARTIN 101A-137B-148A-154B-166A POWELL 126A-152A-152B-164A-165B-173B HOWARD 131B-132A-132B-147B PAYNE 134B POWEL 135A-145B-146A-156A POWELL 137B-177B-188B-191A-215B-219B HOWARD 215A HOWARD 346B-372A-417A-417B ONEAL 417A-418A ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Note:; I feel comfortable that Julia's maiden name was "O'Neal" as there is a male named "Beamon O'Neal Howard" in her descendants. vmf ----------------------XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX------------------------- paulvance@msn.com wrote: >Thanks for the info, Virginia. >Do you know the ancestry of the Benjamin Martin Howard? >Paul >Some of my families: >Morgan, Davis, Nichols, Martin, Vance League, Morris, Strait, Addleman, Armitage Prince, Prindle, Ganoe, >Whitley, Walker, Bailey, Baker, Bullock, Mean, Mead, Landers, Countiss, Gass, Thompson, Ives, Merriman and quite a few more. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: virginia.finley@bigfoot.com > To: GADADE-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 2:06 PM > Subject: [GADADE] Clark Ellis, Daniel E. Ellis, Thomas Ellis in South Pittsburg, Marion County, TN. > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: ELLIS, POWELL, HOWARD, STEADMAN > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ua.2ADI/409 > > Message Board Post: > > Searching for information on a “Clark ELLIS” who appeared on the Federal Census in 1880 for South Pittsburg, Marion County, Tennessee with his wife “Elisa J.” and sons James E, Jacob, Clark Jr, and daughters Nancy E, Mary A, and Katie. Had this Clark ELLIS been married before to a different woman? If so, who? > > 1880 CENSUS > Clark ELLIS Self M Male W 52 TN Laborer TN TN > Eliza J. ELLIS Wife M Female W 44 TN Keeping House TN TN > James E. ELLIS Son S Male W 19 TN Laborer TN TN > Jacob ELLIS Son S Male W 17 TN Laborer TN TN > Nancy E. ELLIS Dau S Female W 15 TN TN TN > Clark ELLIS JR. Son S Male W 8 TN TN TN > Mary A. ELLIS Dau S Female W 6 TN TN TN > Katie ELLIS Dau S Female W 5 TN TN TN > > Source Information: > Census Place South Pittsburg, Marion, Tennessee > Family History Library Film 1255269 > NA Film Number T9-1269 > Page Number 296C > > Clark ELLIS lived next door to Rhoda Elizabeth POWELL who married first a Mr. STEADMAN and second to Benjamin Martin HOWARD. Clark’s father, Thomas ELLIS lived on the other side Rhoda POWELL-HOWARD; Rhoda E. was the sister to Ann POWELL who married Daniel E. ELLIS, brother of Clark Ellis. > > Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace > Rhoda HOWARD Self W Female W 34 GA Keeping House TN TN > Jefferson SLIDMAN (STEADMAN) Son S Male W 17 GA Laborer GA GA > Jessie HOWARD Son S Male W 12 TN TN GA > Washington HOWARD Son S Male W 11 TN TN GA > Henry HOWARD Son S Male W 5 TN TN GA > Edward HOWARD Son S Male W 2 TN TN GA > > Source Information: > Census Place South Pittsburg, Marion, Tennessee > Family History Library Film 1255269 > NA Film Number T9-1269 > Page Number 296C > > ANY INFORMATION YOU ARE WILLING TO SHARE WILL BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. > > > > > ==== GADADE Mailing List ==== > Post only material you own. When you post to RootsWeb.com, you > must either be the copyright holder, have written permission from the > copyright holder, or the material must clearly be in the public domain. > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/aup.html > > > > >==== GADADE Mailing List ==== >Visit the USGenWeb Dade County site at >http://www.rootsweb.com/~gadade/index.htm > > > -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/

Virginia: Does your records show that Hixie and Jesse were married in 1840? That probably means they were married in Warren or De Kalb or Cannon Co. TN. Have you seen the deed in Dade Co where Hixie bought 5 acres from two Powell women? One might, might, have been Jesse's mother Paul Some of my families: Morgan, Davis, Nichols, Martin, Vance League, Morris, Strait, Addleman, Armitage Prince, Prindle, Ganoe, Whitley, Walker, Bailey, Baker, Bullock, Mean, Mead, Landers, Countiss, Gass, Thompson, Ives, Merriman and quite a few more. ----- Original Message ----- From: virginia.finley@bigfoot.com To: GADADE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 2:16 PM Subject: [GADADE] Jesse POWELL & Hixie MARTIN lived Dade County, GA. & Warren County, TN. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: POWELL, MARTIN, HOWARD, ELLIS, STONE Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ua.2ADI/410 Message Board Post: Still searching for parents and sibling of Jesse POWELL who married Hixie MARTIN. Also I am trying to find date for the marriage of Jesse POWELL to Hixie MARTIN, married between 1834 - 1837. Jesse POWELL was born January 14, 1810 and Hixie MARTIN was born June 26, 1816 in Warren Co, TN. They lived and raised a family in Dade County. Their known children were 1) Jesse;moved Hill County, Texas. 2)Rhoda Elizabeth, marr. Benjamin Joseph HOWARD (after Ben Howard's death Rhoda and all Howard sons moved to Hill, Tarrant County, Texas 3) Sarah, 4) William E. married Sarah A.(Unknown);moved Hill County,TX 5) Judy Ann, married Daniel E. ELLIS, moved later to Texas. 6) John Tavner who married Emily STONE. Robert D. Powell, born June 27, 1855 GA, died April 02, 1938 Smith County, Texas. Buried Union Chapel Cemetery in Smith County, TX. It was in Van Zandt county at the time Ma wrote in her bible. Robert was married to Lula E. (Unknown)born February 01, 1875, died December 21, Smith Co. or Van Zandt Co, Texas, buried Union Chapel Cemetery in Smith County, TX. It was in Van Zandt county at the time Ma wrote in her bible. Contact me at virginia.finley@bigfoot.com Thanks, Any help will be appreciated. ==== GADADE Mailing List ==== Don't forget to check out the Dade County Message Board at http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/board/rw/localities.northam.usa.states.georgia.counties.dade

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: POWELL, MARTIN, HOWARD, ELLIS, STONE Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ua.2ADI/410 Message Board Post: Still searching for parents and sibling of Jesse POWELL who married Hixie MARTIN. Also I am trying to find date for the marriage of Jesse POWELL to Hixie MARTIN, married between 1834 - 1837. Jesse POWELL was born January 14, 1810 and Hixie MARTIN was born June 26, 1816 in Warren Co, TN. They lived and raised a family in Dade County. Their known children were 1) Jesse;moved Hill County, Texas. 2)Rhoda Elizabeth, marr. Benjamin Joseph HOWARD (after Ben Howard's death Rhoda and all Howard sons moved to Hill, Tarrant County, Texas 3) Sarah, 4) William E. married Sarah A.(Unknown);moved Hill County,TX 5) Judy Ann, married Daniel E. ELLIS, moved later to Texas. 6) John Tavner who married Emily STONE. Robert D. Powell, born June 27, 1855 GA, died April 02, 1938 Smith County, Texas. Buried Union Chapel Cemetery in Smith County, TX. It was in Van Zandt county at the time Ma wrote in her bible. Robert was married to Lula E. (Unknown)born February 01, 1875, died December 21, Smith Co. or Van Zandt Co, Texas, buried Union Chapel Cemetery in Smith County, TX. It was in Van Zandt county at the time Ma wrote in her bible. Contact me at virginia.finley@bigfoot.com Thanks, Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks for the info, Virginia. Do you know the ancestry of the Benjamin Martin Howard? Paul Some of my families: Morgan, Davis, Nichols, Martin, Vance League, Morris, Strait, Addleman, Armitage Prince, Prindle, Ganoe, Whitley, Walker, Bailey, Baker, Bullock, Mean, Mead, Landers, Countiss, Gass, Thompson, Ives, Merriman and quite a few more. ----- Original Message ----- From: virginia.finley@bigfoot.com To: GADADE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 2:06 PM Subject: [GADADE] Clark Ellis, Daniel E. Ellis, Thomas Ellis in South Pittsburg, Marion County, TN. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: ELLIS, POWELL, HOWARD, STEADMAN Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ua.2ADI/409 Message Board Post: Searching for information on a “Clark ELLIS” who appeared on the Federal Census in 1880 for South Pittsburg, Marion County, Tennessee with his wife “Elisa J.” and sons James E, Jacob, Clark Jr, and daughters Nancy E, Mary A, and Katie. Had this Clark ELLIS been married before to a different woman? If so, who? 1880 CENSUS Clark ELLIS Self M Male W 52 TN Laborer TN TN Eliza J. ELLIS Wife M Female W 44 TN Keeping House TN TN James E. ELLIS Son S Male W 19 TN Laborer TN TN Jacob ELLIS Son S Male W 17 TN Laborer TN TN Nancy E. ELLIS Dau S Female W 15 TN TN TN Clark ELLIS JR. Son S Male W 8 TN TN TN Mary A. ELLIS Dau S Female W 6 TN TN TN Katie ELLIS Dau S Female W 5 TN TN TN Source Information: Census Place South Pittsburg, Marion, Tennessee Family History Library Film 1255269 NA Film Number T9-1269 Page Number 296C Clark ELLIS lived next door to Rhoda Elizabeth POWELL who married first a Mr. STEADMAN and second to Benjamin Martin HOWARD. Clark’s father, Thomas ELLIS lived on the other side Rhoda POWELL-HOWARD; Rhoda E. was the sister to Ann POWELL who married Daniel E. ELLIS, brother of Clark Ellis. Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace Rhoda HOWARD Self W Female W 34 GA Keeping House TN TN Jefferson SLIDMAN (STEADMAN) Son S Male W 17 GA Laborer GA GA Jessie HOWARD Son S Male W 12 TN TN GA Washington HOWARD Son S Male W 11 TN TN GA Henry HOWARD Son S Male W 5 TN TN GA Edward HOWARD Son S Male W 2 TN TN GA Source Information: Census Place South Pittsburg, Marion, Tennessee Family History Library Film 1255269 NA Film Number T9-1269 Page Number 296C ANY INFORMATION YOU ARE WILLING TO SHARE WILL BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. ==== GADADE Mailing List ==== Post only material you own. When you post to RootsWeb.com, you must either be the copyright holder, have written permission from the copyright holder, or the material must clearly be in the public domain. http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/aup.html

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: ELLIS, POWELL, HOWARD, STEADMAN Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ua.2ADI/409 Message Board Post: Searching for information on a “Clark ELLIS” who appeared on the Federal Census in 1880 for South Pittsburg, Marion County, Tennessee with his wife “Elisa J.” and sons James E, Jacob, Clark Jr, and daughters Nancy E, Mary A, and Katie. Had this Clark ELLIS been married before to a different woman? If so, who? 1880 CENSUS Clark ELLIS Self M Male W 52 TN Laborer TN TN Eliza J. ELLIS Wife M Female W 44 TN Keeping House TN TN James E. ELLIS Son S Male W 19 TN Laborer TN TN Jacob ELLIS Son S Male W 17 TN Laborer TN TN Nancy E. ELLIS Dau S Female W 15 TN TN TN Clark ELLIS JR. Son S Male W 8 TN TN TN Mary A. ELLIS Dau S Female W 6 TN TN TN Katie ELLIS Dau S Female W 5 TN TN TN Source Information: Census Place South Pittsburg, Marion, Tennessee Family History Library Film 1255269 NA Film Number T9-1269 Page Number 296C Clark ELLIS lived next door to Rhoda Elizabeth POWELL who married first a Mr. STEADMAN and second to Benjamin Martin HOWARD. Clark’s father, Thomas ELLIS lived on the other side Rhoda POWELL-HOWARD; Rhoda E. was the sister to Ann POWELL who married Daniel E. ELLIS, brother of Clark Ellis. Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace Rhoda HOWARD Self W Female W 34 GA Keeping House TN TN Jefferson SLIDMAN (STEADMAN) Son S Male W 17 GA Laborer GA GA Jessie HOWARD Son S Male W 12 TN TN GA Washington HOWARD Son S Male W 11 TN TN GA Henry HOWARD Son S Male W 5 TN TN GA Edward HOWARD Son S Male W 2 TN TN GA Source Information: Census Place South Pittsburg, Marion, Tennessee Family History Library Film 1255269 NA Film Number T9-1269 Page Number 296C ANY INFORMATION YOU ARE WILLING TO SHARE WILL BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: o'kelley Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/5519/Ua.2ADI/36.4 Message Board Post: I am looking for an Elizabeth Bradford O'kelley b. in AR. 1850-60 ..........

Hi Georgia... The only SILLS "marked" graves in Dade are at Hooker Cemetery and are: James William Sills, 1897 - 1966 [Mar 23, 1966] & Carrah Mae Sills, 1899-1982 [Nov 27, 1982] md. Mar 17, 1922 Charles A. Sills, Oct 21, 1873 - Dec 8, 1949 & Hattie M. Sills, Mar 20, 1876 - June 6, 1951 The above graves are next to each other. Katie Sills Harp, wife of James S. Harp, June 9, 1878 - Feb 16, 1925 James S. Harp, Feb 10, 1858 - Feb 5, 1950 Someone else has asked about these people but I don't remember who. Only the years of birth and death are on James and Carrah Sills' tombstones and in my notes I had added the day and month of death for them. I'll check farther on yours. And, I've been meaning to email you but misplaced your address... need to talk to you about your Mathis line. Were they out of Wilkes/Lincoln Counties GA; over to AL then to Floyd County GA? Thanks. Sue -----Original Message----- From: Cummons2@cs.com Sent: Jan 16, 2004 5:54 AM To: GADADE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [GADADE] Sills Dade Co., GA Do you know where these people are buried in Dade Co., GA? John S. Sills b. 1849 d. 1918 Dade Co., GA James Harry Sills b. 1872 d. 1939 Dade Co., GA Katie Sills Harp b. 1878 d. 1925 Dade Co., GA Thank you, Georgia Mathis Cummons ==== GADADE Mailing List ==== To post messages to everyone on the list, send your email message to: GADADE-L@rootsweb.com

Do you know where these people are buried in Dade Co., GA? John S. Sills b. 1849 d. 1918 Dade Co., GA James Harry Sills b. 1872 d. 1939 Dade Co., GA Katie Sills Harp b. 1878 d. 1925 Dade Co., GA Thank you, Georgia Mathis Cummons

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ua.2ADI/408.3 Message Board Post: I have a print copy of a Dade Co. Cemetery Survey done in 1992. Most cemeteries are in it. I can look do lookups for you if you'll give me the names you are interested in

In the book, The Civil War Comes to Dade County, there is a roster for the 104th Regiment GA State Troops. In the list is a J M Reudleman, Surgeon. Does anyone know about him? I have a Dade ancestor who gave a son a middle name of Rendleman which on the surface appears to be a surname. A coincidence lies in the fact that the father of this son and this JM Reudleman are in the same roster list. My ancestor, Hugh Lawson White Allison named a son, James Rendleman Allison, dob 1863. His next son was Michael Morrison Allison, dob 1865, again the Morrison appears to be a surname. Have often wondered if Rendleman and Morrison were clues to past unknown relatives. There is also a William Morrison listed in the roster of the 104th. So my reasoning is asking if there is an Allison relation to these two names. Any clues or knowledge of these two men would or might help... thanks... Gil

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Holland/Rhyne/Jenkins/Stephens/Porter Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ua.2ADI/408.2.1.1 Message Board Post: Gastonia is in Gaston County N.C. Julius Holland, Jesse Holland...There are tons of Hollands listed there way back to 1700's. Long creek Baptist cemetary may be a good place to check. They have an on line listing. I'm waiting for my brother to send my search info back to me. I passed it to him to do some research. The Stephens side I have in Dade Co. is Lucy Stephens married to John Burton Porter. I had to stop my search for a spell while I tend to, " My little Blessing at 42!" John Daniel who will be 1 year next month. Anything more I can come up with I'll let you know. Linda

Lana and others... didn't know if you knew it or not but genweb.com is up for sale. I tried to go in on it earlier and got selling info. Sue

Earleene, I'm sure you have probably said in the past... but don't remember if you did. But can you give me the dates Elsie Cuzzort lived so I would know about where to check? Sue -----Original Message----- From: earleene <erpre@earthlink.net> Sent: Jan 13, 2004 2:00 AM To: GADADE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GADADE] Re: Stephens of Dade Co., GA abt 1840 sue,do you know if there is a deed record in trenton for elsie cuzzort? earleene ----- Original Message ----- From: <suzique98@yahoo.com> To: <GADADE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 4:39 PM Subject: [GADADE] Re: Stephens of Dade Co., GA abt 1840 > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ua.2ADI/408.1 > > Message Board Post: > > Lana, > > I don't know if John "Doc" Stephens and Gatlin Stephens were brothers or not. Gatlin Stephens settled in the lower Rising Fawn area (or Clovedale area) of Dade County while Doc did not. > > You asked about the courthouse records... > > Because of two courthouse fires (April 1853 and Nov 1863) our deed records begin in 1853. However, many deeds were re-recorded or were recorded very late so we have a lot prior to the 1853 date going back into the 1840's. There are three exceptions to this: Deed books A, B, and E. Those are missing. > > The deeds survived the Nov 1863 fire. > > Our marriage records begin in 1866 with a few recorded late from 1865 and one from 1863. > > Only two old probate books survived the Nov 1863 fire. There are no "loose" probate records prior to 1895. It was said the courthouse burned again in 1895 but this can't be true as it was torn down in 1925 to make way for the one we now use. There could have been a "contained" fire in the Ordinary Office (now Probate) which could account for the loss of the probate records prior to 1895. > > I have recorded every burial site in Dade County that we can locate. Some burials sites have no tombstones what-so-ever. I have not put them on any web site but will start putting them on the Dade County Historical Society's site as soon as we have it up and running... hopefully before too much longer. > > Along with cemetery information will be book b marriage records; obits and other courthouse records. It takes time transcribing and formatting web pages. > > Gatlin Stephens' grave is marked. > > Can I look something up for you? I have seen some of the recordings you have done for DeKalb County... or at least I thought it was you. > > Sue > Dade County GA > > > ==== GADADE Mailing List ==== > Resubmit your queries periodically to reach new listmembers. > ==== GADADE Mailing List ==== Search the GADADE mailing list archive at http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=GADADE

sue,do you know if there is a deed record in trenton for elsie cuzzort? earleene ----- Original Message ----- From: <suzique98@yahoo.com> To: <GADADE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 4:39 PM Subject: [GADADE] Re: Stephens of Dade Co., GA abt 1840 > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ua.2ADI/408.1 > > Message Board Post: > > Lana, > > I don't know if John "Doc" Stephens and Gatlin Stephens were brothers or not. Gatlin Stephens settled in the lower Rising Fawn area (or Clovedale area) of Dade County while Doc did not. > > You asked about the courthouse records... > > Because of two courthouse fires (April 1853 and Nov 1863) our deed records begin in 1853. However, many deeds were re-recorded or were recorded very late so we have a lot prior to the 1853 date going back into the 1840's. There are three exceptions to this: Deed books A, B, and E. Those are missing. > > The deeds survived the Nov 1863 fire. > > Our marriage records begin in 1866 with a few recorded late from 1865 and one from 1863. > > Only two old probate books survived the Nov 1863 fire. There are no "loose" probate records prior to 1895. It was said the courthouse burned again in 1895 but this can't be true as it was torn down in 1925 to make way for the one we now use. There could have been a "contained" fire in the Ordinary Office (now Probate) which could account for the loss of the probate records prior to 1895. > > I have recorded every burial site in Dade County that we can locate. Some burials sites have no tombstones what-so-ever. I have not put them on any web site but will start putting them on the Dade County Historical Society's site as soon as we have it up and running... hopefully before too much longer. > > Along with cemetery information will be book b marriage records; obits and other courthouse records. It takes time transcribing and formatting web pages. > > Gatlin Stephens' grave is marked. > > Can I look something up for you? I have seen some of the recordings you have done for DeKalb County... or at least I thought it was you. > > Sue > Dade County GA > > > ==== GADADE Mailing List ==== > Resubmit your queries periodically to reach new listmembers. >

Is anyone aware of a Holland/Allison marriage or family line that was in DeKalb County AL just across from Dade County? Gil ----- Original Message ----- From: <w4ctk@farmerstel.com> To: <GADADE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 8:14 PM Subject: [GADADE] Re: HOLLAND - STEPHENS of Dade Co., GA abt 1840

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: HOLLAND, STEPHENS Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ua.2ADI/408.2.1 Message Board Post: Do you know what county Gastonia, NC is in? I don't find a Robert Holland in my files, but the line I have descended from Nehemiah Holland, I think...still trying to prove Benjamin as a son. Benjamin had John A. who had Hugh Holland, b. NC-maybe Hayworth Co. Hugh came through Dade Co., to DeKalb, AL where he d. about 1854 and may have been in TN a while, still looking into that. Hugh was md to a Martha Ball and she preceded him in death prior to 1850. John A. was b. in Wyeth Co., VA per my notes.