Delilah, There was a "hanging tree" and I think it is still there or at least that is what I've been told. Durham is part Walker Co and part Dade Co... most of it especially where the mine openings were would be in Walker Co. The hanging tree Paul may be strung from is in Trenton in the valley. :o) Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 11:02 AM Subject: Re: [GADADE] Can someone help with county info? > When I was visiting on Durham Rd - it was mentioned that the 'hanging tree' > was still there - although I guess I missed it > delilah evans > > > > > > At 08:02 3/7/01 -0500, you wrote: > >Hi Paul, I think maybe the "hanging tree" might still be in Trenton too. > > > >Sue > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Paul R.L. Vance <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 11:14 PM > >Subject: Re: [GADADE] Can someone help with county info? > > > > > >> OK Sue: Post the story. > >> Do you mean to post the article by Dr. Merton Coulter, Georgia Historian, > >> ha. Bet you don't dare. > >> Anyway, his article is in the library at Trenton, I know, I gave it to the > >> library. > >> Also, are you going to post the court records of Dade for the years right > >> after the Civil War when the citizens were begging for aid from the state. > >> Doesn't read like they considered themselves Free. > >> Or are you going to point out how many of those veterans got pensions from > >> the state of Georgia. > >> Old stories die hard regardless of who made them up or how totally > >illogical > >> they may be. > >> Paul > >> Bet this means I have to slip in and out of the county now. > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Beverly Forrester" <[email protected]> > >> To: <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 8:02 PM > >> Subject: Re: [GADADE] Can someone help with county info? > >> > >> > >> > Hi Delilah, > >> > > >> > Well, if you ask some of older native Dade Countians this question you > >> will > >> > probably hear the story about Uncle Bob Tatum. Uncle Bob Tatum made the > >> > firey peech in the house during the beginning of the Civil War that if > >the > >> > state of Georgia didn't secede from the union then Dade County would > >> secede > >> > from the state of Georgia. > >> > > >> > As the story goes, he then came home, called the men together and they > >> voted > >> > for Dade County to secede from the state. After the War was over it was > >> > sorta of forgotten about until 1945 when Dade Co decided to return to > >the > >> > state of Georgia. There was a big to do over it and it was broadcast > >> around > >> > the world via radio... we're talking about a major celebration here. > >> > > >> > However, no records have ever been found to prove that Dade County > >> actually > >> > did secede from the State. Really, people have combed state records > >trying > >> > to prove it was all a made up story. > >> > > >> > There was a Robert Tatum and he was either in the house or senate > >during > >> > the beginning of the Civil War. Personally, I think it is a wonderful > >> story > >> > and don't know if it happened or not. There was so much confusion during > >> > that time period it could have happened and not recorded as I sure many > >> > things were not. > >> > > >> > The state of Georgia built the road across Lookout Mountain during the > >> late > >> > 1930's, early 1940's plus the schools received state money and people > >> voted > >> > in the same state elections as everyone else. So, if it did happened or > >> > didn't, we were still a part of the state during all of those years > >during > >> > the War and afterward. > >> > > >> > Dade County has the nickname as being "The Independant State of Dade" or > >> > "The Lost State of Dade". > >> > > >> > People born in the county during those years are still considered to > >have > >> > been born in Georgia. The only thing that happened to our records were > >the > >> > trying to survive courthouse fires... April 1853 and 21 Nov 1863 and > >maybe > >> a > >> > contained fire the latter part of the 1890's. > >> > > >> > If anyone is interested in the complete story, I will be glad to post > >it. > >> > > >> > Sue > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: <[email protected]> > >> > To: <[email protected]> > >> > Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 8:33 AM > >> > Subject: Re: [GADADE] Can someone help with county info? > >> > > >> > > >> > > Thanks, Sue, I should have told her you were the one she needed to > >talk > >> to > >> > > - BTW, did you know that Dade County seceded (sp) from the Union and > >> > became > >> > > the State of Dade until about 1945 (would have to chek my info), what > >is > >> > > the status of all those born and married there during that period - > >> > > delilah evans/avans > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > At 21:43 3/5/01 -0600, you wrote: > >> > > >Thanks, I just need the blanks filled in where info is missing. > >> > > > > >> > > >At 07:13 AM 3/5/01 -0500, you wrote: > >> > > >>what kind of help do you need? - I am a new subscriber to GADADE, > >my > >> > dad > >> > > >>was born on Durham Rd, Walker Cty - his parents and grandparents > >were > >> > from > >> > > >>there, his grandparents were married in Trenton - they worked for > >the > >> > > >>Durham Coal and Mining Co. If I can help, let me know, I live in > >South > >> > Ga. > >> > > >>delilah evans/avans > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >>At 23:06 3/4/01 -0600, you wrote: > >> > > >> >I am developing a website for Georgia Counties and > >> > > >> >need someone that is familiar with this counties information to > >take > >> a > >> > > look > >> > > >> >and see if anything needs to be corrected or added. Especially the > >> > > >> >Local Genealogical Societies. Its located at > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >http://segenealogy.com/georgia/gacnty08.htm > >> > > >> >Thanks in advance. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >Becky > >> > > >> >Southeastern Genealogy Online > >> > > >> >www.segenealogy.com > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >==== GADADE Mailing List ==== > >> > > >> >Visit the USGenWeb Dade County site > >> > > >> >http://www.rootsweb.com/~gadade/index.htm > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >>==== GADADE Mailing List ==== > >> > > >>Find any good research materials or websites lately? > >> > > >>Please share... > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > >==== GADADE Mailing List ==== > >> > > >Resubmit your queries periodically to reach new listmembers. > >> > > >Approximately 12 new people subscribe each month. > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > ==== GADADE Mailing List ==== > >> > > GADADE is a mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest > >> > > in the Dade County, GA area. Researchers for Walker County, GA; > >> > > Marion County, TN; and Dekalb and Jackson Counties, AL are invited > >> > > to join as well. > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > ==== GADADE Mailing List ==== > >> > GADADE is a mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest > >> > in the Dade County, GA area. Researchers for Walker County, GA; > >> > Marion County, TN; and Dekalb and Jackson Counties, AL are invited > >> > to join as well. > >> > > >> > >> > >> ==== GADADE Mailing List ==== > >> For questions or comments regarding the GADADE list, > >> please contact Carla Cegielski: [email protected] > >> > > > > > >==== GADADE Mailing List ==== > >GADADE is a mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest > >in the Dade County, GA area. Researchers for Walker County, GA; > >Marion County, TN; and Dekalb and Jackson Counties, AL are invited > >to join as well. > > > > > > > ==== GADADE Mailing List ==== > The GADADE mail list is sponsored by the RootsWeb Genealogical > Data Cooperative. RootsWeb supports free genealogical resources > on the Internet. Check it out at: http://www.rootsweb.com/ >

Am searching burial spot of William B. O'Neal 3/26/1845 - 1/4/1914. Death certificate says he is buried in Hooker, GA. I don't find him listed in the cemetery book for Dade County. Does anyone know if there is anyone with records of who is buried in Hooker Cemetery or is there more than one cemetery there? Perhaps he is in an unmarked grave. Any help appreciated. William E. O'Neal Bill & Emily O'Neal 73 Surrey Trail, Rome, GA 30161-5946 (706) 290-0710 Check our web site at: http://home.earthlink.net/~billoneal/index.html

Can anyone connect with this family? JOHN COBB was born June 12, 1844 in Alabama. He married: (1) MARTHA COGGINS/MANN, daughter of ROLLEIGH COGGINS and MARY EDWARDS. She was born 1844 in Northampton County, NC, and died Abt. 1893. Her first husband was Willis Mann who died in 1864 while serving as a Confederate soldier. Children of John Cobb and Martha Coggins/Mann are: *Kesiah, b. 1866 *James Tatton or Tallow, b. abt 1868 *William Henry, b. abt 1870 *Sarah Rosetta or Rosella, b. abt 1874 *John Walter, b. 1880 On 1870 Census for Bartow County, GA--John and Martha were living in Subdivision Five in the County of Bartow, Post Office was Cartersville. John was 25 yrs old and listed as Farm hand Martha was 25 yrs old and listed as keeping house Kizza was 5 yrs old Jamie was 3 yrs old William was 1 yr old Census taken on July 16, 1870. He married (2) FRANCIS (FANNIE) A. HOUSE 1894. She was born June 1872 in Georgia. Their children are: *Annie F. Cobb/Bond, b. 1894 *Lee Cobb, b. 1897 *Charles Cobb, b. 1898 *Bessie Cobb/Stallings, b. 1900 *Robert Cobb, b. 1904 *William Cobb, b. 1913 *Rose Cobb, b. ? Full Name: John Cobb Place of Death: County: Miss Township: Neal Color or Race: White Married Date of Birth: June 12, 1844 Age: 77yrs. 3 mos. 17 days Occupation: Farmer Name of Father: Don't know Birthplace: Ga. Maiden Name of Mother: Mary Jones/Janes/James Birthplace: Ga. Date of Death: Oct 6, 1921 Note: Although John Cobb died in Mississippi County, AR. His place of residence at the time was Dunklin County, MO. I've found John and his family on the following census records: *1870 Bartow Co, GA *1880 Dade Co, GA *1900 Chattooga Co, GA *1910 Dunklin Co, MO *1920 Dunklin Co, MO

When I was visiting on Durham Rd - it was mentioned that the 'hanging tree' was still there - although I guess I missed it delilah evans At 08:02 3/7/01 -0500, you wrote: >Hi Paul, I think maybe the "hanging tree" might still be in Trenton too. > >Sue >----- Original Message ----- >From: Paul R.L. Vance <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 11:14 PM >Subject: Re: [GADADE] Can someone help with county info? > > >> OK Sue: Post the story. >> Do you mean to post the article by Dr. Merton Coulter, Georgia Historian, >> ha. Bet you don't dare. >> Anyway, his article is in the library at Trenton, I know, I gave it to the >> library. >> Also, are you going to post the court records of Dade for the years right >> after the Civil War when the citizens were begging for aid from the state. >> Doesn't read like they considered themselves Free. >> Or are you going to point out how many of those veterans got pensions from >> the state of Georgia. >> Old stories die hard regardless of who made them up or how totally >illogical >> they may be. >> Paul >> Bet this means I have to slip in and out of the county now. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Beverly Forrester" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 8:02 PM >> Subject: Re: [GADADE] Can someone help with county info? >> >> >> > Hi Delilah, >> > >> > Well, if you ask some of older native Dade Countians this question you >> will >> > probably hear the story about Uncle Bob Tatum. Uncle Bob Tatum made the >> > firey peech in the house during the beginning of the Civil War that if >the >> > state of Georgia didn't secede from the union then Dade County would >> secede >> > from the state of Georgia. >> > >> > As the story goes, he then came home, called the men together and they >> voted >> > for Dade County to secede from the state. After the War was over it was >> > sorta of forgotten about until 1945 when Dade Co decided to return to >the >> > state of Georgia. There was a big to do over it and it was broadcast >> around >> > the world via radio... we're talking about a major celebration here. >> > >> > However, no records have ever been found to prove that Dade County >> actually >> > did secede from the State. Really, people have combed state records >trying >> > to prove it was all a made up story. >> > >> > There was a Robert Tatum and he was either in the house or senate >during >> > the beginning of the Civil War. Personally, I think it is a wonderful >> story >> > and don't know if it happened or not. There was so much confusion during >> > that time period it could have happened and not recorded as I sure many >> > things were not. >> > >> > The state of Georgia built the road across Lookout Mountain during the >> late >> > 1930's, early 1940's plus the schools received state money and people >> voted >> > in the same state elections as everyone else. So, if it did happened or >> > didn't, we were still a part of the state during all of those years >during >> > the War and afterward. >> > >> > Dade County has the nickname as being "The Independant State of Dade" or >> > "The Lost State of Dade". >> > >> > People born in the county during those years are still considered to >have >> > been born in Georgia. The only thing that happened to our records were >the >> > trying to survive courthouse fires... April 1853 and 21 Nov 1863 and >maybe >> a >> > contained fire the latter part of the 1890's. >> > >> > If anyone is interested in the complete story, I will be glad to post >it. >> > >> > Sue >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: <[email protected]> >> > To: <[email protected]> >> > Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 8:33 AM >> > Subject: Re: [GADADE] Can someone help with county info? >> > >> > >> > > Thanks, Sue, I should have told her you were the one she needed to >talk >> to >> > > - BTW, did you know that Dade County seceded (sp) from the Union and >> > became >> > > the State of Dade until about 1945 (would have to chek my info), what >is >> > > the status of all those born and married there during that period - >> > > delilah evans/avans >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > At 21:43 3/5/01 -0600, you wrote: >> > > >Thanks, I just need the blanks filled in where info is missing. >> > > > >> > > >At 07:13 AM 3/5/01 -0500, you wrote: >> > > >>what kind of help do you need? - I am a new subscriber to GADADE, >my >> > dad >> > > >>was born on Durham Rd, Walker Cty - his parents and grandparents >were >> > from >> > > >>there, his grandparents were married in Trenton - they worked for >the >> > > >>Durham Coal and Mining Co. If I can help, let me know, I live in >South >> > Ga. >> > > >>delilah evans/avans >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >>At 23:06 3/4/01 -0600, you wrote: >> > > >> >I am developing a website for Georgia Counties and >> > > >> >need someone that is familiar with this counties information to >take >> a >> > > look >> > > >> >and see if anything needs to be corrected or added. Especially the >> > > >> >Local Genealogical Societies. Its located at >> > > >> > >> > > >> >http://segenealogy.com/georgia/gacnty08.htm >> > > >> >Thanks in advance. >> > > >> > >> > > >> >Becky >> > > >> >Southeastern Genealogy Online >> > > >> >www.segenealogy.com >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> >==== GADADE Mailing List ==== >> > > >> >Visit the USGenWeb Dade County site >> > > >> >http://www.rootsweb.com/~gadade/index.htm >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >>==== GADADE Mailing List ==== >> > > >>Find any good research materials or websites lately? >> > > >>Please share... >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >==== GADADE Mailing List ==== >> > > >Resubmit your queries periodically to reach new listmembers. >> > > >Approximately 12 new people subscribe each month. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > ==== GADADE Mailing List ==== >> > > GADADE is a mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest >> > > in the Dade County, GA area. Researchers for Walker County, GA; >> > > Marion County, TN; and Dekalb and Jackson Counties, AL are invited >> > > to join as well. >> > > >> > >> > >> > ==== GADADE Mailing List ==== >> > GADADE is a mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest >> > in the Dade County, GA area. Researchers for Walker County, GA; >> > Marion County, TN; and Dekalb and Jackson Counties, AL are invited >> > to join as well. >> > >> >> >> ==== GADADE Mailing List ==== >> For questions or comments regarding the GADADE list, >> please contact Carla Cegielski: [email protected] >> > > >==== GADADE Mailing List ==== >GADADE is a mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest >in the Dade County, GA area. Researchers for Walker County, GA; >Marion County, TN; and Dekalb and Jackson Counties, AL are invited >to join as well. > >

I had picked up a copy of "The Historical News" when I was in LaFayette - it mentioned something about Dade Cty seceding from Ga - I decided I wanted to know more and I called the paper and they sent me copies free - it is a free Historical paper - THE HISTORICAL NEWS P. O. Box 1068 Hiram, Ga 30141 - phone 1-800-422-4478 or fax - 1-770-943-0729 - it only comes out 4 times a year but its very interesting delilah At 21:48 3/6/01 -0800, you wrote: >Sue, > >I would love to read the whole story about Dade County. >Cat > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Beverly Forrester" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 7:02 PM >Subject: Re: [GADADE] Can someone help with county info? > > >> Hi Delilah, >> >> Well, if you ask some of older native Dade Countians this question you >will >> probably hear the story about Uncle Bob Tatum. Uncle Bob Tatum made the >> firey peech in the house during the beginning of the Civil War that if the >> state of Georgia didn't secede from the union then Dade County would >secede >> from the state of Georgia. >> > > > >==== GADADE Mailing List ==== >Visit the USGenWeb Dade County site >http://www.rootsweb.com/~gadade/index.htm > >

Hi Paul, I think maybe the "hanging tree" might still be in Trenton too. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul R.L. Vance <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 11:14 PM Subject: Re: [GADADE] Can someone help with county info? > OK Sue: Post the story. > Do you mean to post the article by Dr. Merton Coulter, Georgia Historian, > ha. Bet you don't dare. > Anyway, his article is in the library at Trenton, I know, I gave it to the > library. > Also, are you going to post the court records of Dade for the years right > after the Civil War when the citizens were begging for aid from the state. > Doesn't read like they considered themselves Free. > Or are you going to point out how many of those veterans got pensions from > the state of Georgia. > Old stories die hard regardless of who made them up or how totally illogical > they may be. > Paul > Bet this means I have to slip in and out of the county now. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Beverly Forrester" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 8:02 PM > Subject: Re: [GADADE] Can someone help with county info? > > > > Hi Delilah, > > > > Well, if you ask some of older native Dade Countians this question you > will > > probably hear the story about Uncle Bob Tatum. Uncle Bob Tatum made the > > firey peech in the house during the beginning of the Civil War that if the > > state of Georgia didn't secede from the union then Dade County would > secede > > from the state of Georgia. > > > > As the story goes, he then came home, called the men together and they > voted > > for Dade County to secede from the state. After the War was over it was > > sorta of forgotten about until 1945 when Dade Co decided to return to the > > state of Georgia. There was a big to do over it and it was broadcast > around > > the world via radio... we're talking about a major celebration here. > > > > However, no records have ever been found to prove that Dade County > actually > > did secede from the State. Really, people have combed state records trying > > to prove it was all a made up story. > > > > There was a Robert Tatum and he was either in the house or senate during > > the beginning of the Civil War. Personally, I think it is a wonderful > story > > and don't know if it happened or not. There was so much confusion during > > that time period it could have happened and not recorded as I sure many > > things were not. > > > > The state of Georgia built the road across Lookout Mountain during the > late > > 1930's, early 1940's plus the schools received state money and people > voted > > in the same state elections as everyone else. So, if it did happened or > > didn't, we were still a part of the state during all of those years during > > the War and afterward. > > > > Dade County has the nickname as being "The Independant State of Dade" or > > "The Lost State of Dade". > > > > People born in the county during those years are still considered to have > > been born in Georgia. The only thing that happened to our records were the > > trying to survive courthouse fires... April 1853 and 21 Nov 1863 and maybe > a > > contained fire the latter part of the 1890's. > > > > If anyone is interested in the complete story, I will be glad to post it. > > > > Sue > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 8:33 AM > > Subject: Re: [GADADE] Can someone help with county info? > > > > > > > Thanks, Sue, I should have told her you were the one she needed to talk > to > > > - BTW, did you know that Dade County seceded (sp) from the Union and > > became > > > the State of Dade until about 1945 (would have to chek my info), what is > > > the status of all those born and married there during that period - > > > delilah evans/avans > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 21:43 3/5/01 -0600, you wrote: > > > >Thanks, I just need the blanks filled in where info is missing. > > > > > > > >At 07:13 AM 3/5/01 -0500, you wrote: > > > >>what kind of help do you need? - I am a new subscriber to GADADE, my > > dad > > > >>was born on Durham Rd, Walker Cty - his parents and grandparents were > > from > > > >>there, his grandparents were married in Trenton - they worked for the > > > >>Durham Coal and Mining Co. If I can help, let me know, I live in South > > Ga. > > > >>delilah evans/avans > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>At 23:06 3/4/01 -0600, you wrote: > > > >> >I am developing a website for Georgia Counties and > > > >> >need someone that is familiar with this counties information to take > a > > > look > > > >> >and see if anything needs to be corrected or added. Especially the > > > >> >Local Genealogical Societies. Its located at > > > >> > > > > >> >http://segenealogy.com/georgia/gacnty08.htm > > > >> >Thanks in advance. > > > >> > > > > >> >Becky > > > >> >Southeastern Genealogy Online > > > >> >www.segenealogy.com > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> >==== GADADE Mailing List ==== > > > >> >Visit the USGenWeb Dade County site > > > >> >http://www.rootsweb.com/~gadade/index.htm > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>==== GADADE Mailing List ==== > > > >>Find any good research materials or websites lately? > > > >>Please share... > > > > > > > > > > > >==== GADADE Mailing List ==== > > > >Resubmit your queries periodically to reach new listmembers. > > > >Approximately 12 new people subscribe each month. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== GADADE Mailing List ==== > > > GADADE is a mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest > > > in the Dade County, GA area. Researchers for Walker County, GA; > > > Marion County, TN; and Dekalb and Jackson Counties, AL are invited > > > to join as well. > > > > > > > > > ==== GADADE Mailing List ==== > > GADADE is a mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest > > in the Dade County, GA area. Researchers for Walker County, GA; > > Marion County, TN; and Dekalb and Jackson Counties, AL are invited > > to join as well. > > > > > ==== GADADE Mailing List ==== > For questions or comments regarding the GADADE list, > please contact Carla Cegielski: [email protected] >

Hi Delilah, Well, if you ask some of older native Dade Countians this question you will probably hear the story about Uncle Bob Tatum. Uncle Bob Tatum made the firey peech in the house during the beginning of the Civil War that if the state of Georgia didn't secede from the union then Dade County would secede from the state of Georgia. As the story goes, he then came home, called the men together and they voted for Dade County to secede from the state. After the War was over it was sorta of forgotten about until 1945 when Dade Co decided to return to the state of Georgia. There was a big to do over it and it was broadcast around the world via radio... we're talking about a major celebration here. However, no records have ever been found to prove that Dade County actually did secede from the State. Really, people have combed state records trying to prove it was all a made up story. There was a Robert Tatum and he was either in the house or senate during the beginning of the Civil War. Personally, I think it is a wonderful story and don't know if it happened or not. There was so much confusion during that time period it could have happened and not recorded as I sure many things were not. The state of Georgia built the road across Lookout Mountain during the late 1930's, early 1940's plus the schools received state money and people voted in the same state elections as everyone else. So, if it did happened or didn't, we were still a part of the state during all of those years during the War and afterward. Dade County has the nickname as being "The Independant State of Dade" or "The Lost State of Dade". People born in the county during those years are still considered to have been born in Georgia. The only thing that happened to our records were the trying to survive courthouse fires... April 1853 and 21 Nov 1863 and maybe a contained fire the latter part of the 1890's. If anyone is interested in the complete story, I will be glad to post it. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 8:33 AM Subject: Re: [GADADE] Can someone help with county info? > Thanks, Sue, I should have told her you were the one she needed to talk to > - BTW, did you know that Dade County seceded (sp) from the Union and became > the State of Dade until about 1945 (would have to chek my info), what is > the status of all those born and married there during that period - > delilah evans/avans > > > > > > At 21:43 3/5/01 -0600, you wrote: > >Thanks, I just need the blanks filled in where info is missing. > > > >At 07:13 AM 3/5/01 -0500, you wrote: > >>what kind of help do you need? - I am a new subscriber to GADADE, my dad > >>was born on Durham Rd, Walker Cty - his parents and grandparents were from > >>there, his grandparents were married in Trenton - they worked for the > >>Durham Coal and Mining Co. If I can help, let me know, I live in South Ga. > >>delilah evans/avans > >> > >> > >>At 23:06 3/4/01 -0600, you wrote: > >> >I am developing a website for Georgia Counties and > >> >need someone that is familiar with this counties information to take a > look > >> >and see if anything needs to be corrected or added. Especially the > >> >Local Genealogical Societies. Its located at > >> > > >> >http://segenealogy.com/georgia/gacnty08.htm > >> >Thanks in advance. > >> > > >> >Becky > >> >Southeastern Genealogy Online > >> >www.segenealogy.com > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >==== GADADE Mailing List ==== > >> >Visit the USGenWeb Dade County site > >> >http://www.rootsweb.com/~gadade/index.htm > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >>==== GADADE Mailing List ==== > >>Find any good research materials or websites lately? > >>Please share... > > > > > >==== GADADE Mailing List ==== > >Resubmit your queries periodically to reach new listmembers. > >Approximately 12 new people subscribe each month. > > > > > > > ==== GADADE Mailing List ==== > GADADE is a mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest > in the Dade County, GA area. Researchers for Walker County, GA; > Marion County, TN; and Dekalb and Jackson Counties, AL are invited > to join as well. >

--WebTV-Mail-11111-5663 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit SUE, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THIS STORY OF DADE CO, GA LINDA --WebTV-Mail-11111-5663 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from smtpin-102-1.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.98) by storefull-614.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:42:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by smtpin-102-1.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) id C940C17F; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:42:32 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: [email protected] Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.32]) by smtpin-102-1.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) with ESMTP id DA13D170; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:42:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from [email protected]) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f272cAD08026; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:38:10 -0700 Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:38:10 -0700 X-Original-Sender: [email protected] Tue Mar 6 19:38:09 2001 Message-ID: <[email protected]> From: "Beverly Forrester" <[email protected]> Old-To: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]><[email protected]> <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [GADADE] Can someone help with county info? Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 22:02:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Resent-From: [email protected] Reply-To: [email protected] X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/62 X-Loop: [email protected] Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [email protected] Hi Delilah, Well, if you ask some of older native Dade Countians this question you will probably hear the story about Uncle Bob Tatum. Uncle Bob Tatum made the firey peech in the house during the beginning of the Civil War that if the state of Georgia didn't secede from the union then Dade County would secede from the state of Georgia. As the story goes, he then came home, called the men together and they voted for Dade County to secede from the state. After the War was over it was sorta of forgotten about until 1945 when Dade Co decided to return to the state of Georgia. There was a big to do over it and it was broadcast around the world via radio... we're talking about a major celebration here. However, no records have ever been found to prove that Dade County actually did secede from the State. Really, people have combed state records trying to prove it was all a made up story. There was a Robert Tatum and he was either in the house or senate during the beginning of the Civil War. Personally, I think it is a wonderful story and don't know if it happened or not. There was so much confusion during that time period it could have happened and not recorded as I sure many things were not. The state of Georgia built the road across Lookout Mountain during the late 1930's, early 1940's plus the schools received state money and people voted in the same state elections as everyone else. So, if it did happened or didn't, we were still a part of the state during all of those years during the War and afterward. Dade County has the nickname as being "The Independant State of Dade" or "The Lost State of Dade". People born in the county during those years are still considered to have been born in Georgia. The only thing that happened to our records were the trying to survive courthouse fires... April 1853 and 21 Nov 1863 and maybe a contained fire the latter part of the 1890's. If anyone is interested in the complete story, I will be glad to post it. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 8:33 AM Subject: Re: [GADADE] Can someone help with county info? > Thanks, Sue, I should have told her you were the one she needed to talk to > - BTW, did you know that Dade County seceded (sp) from the Union and became > the State of Dade until about 1945 (would have to chek my info), what is > the status of all those born and married there during that period - > delilah evans/avans > > > > > > At 21:43 3/5/01 -0600, you wrote: > >Thanks, I just need the blanks filled in where info is missing. > > > >At 07:13 AM 3/5/01 -0500, you wrote: > >>what kind of help do you need? - I am a new subscriber to GADADE, my dad > >>was born on Durham Rd, Walker Cty - his parents and grandparents were from > >>there, his grandparents were married in Trenton - they worked for the > >>Durham Coal and Mining Co. If I can help, let me know, I live in South Ga. > >>delilah evans/avans > >> > >> > >>At 23:06 3/4/01 -0600, you wrote: > >> >I am developing a website for Georgia Counties and > >> >need someone that is familiar with this counties information to take a > look > >> >and see if anything needs to be corrected or added. Especially the > >> >Local Genealogical Societies. Its located at > >> > > >> >http://segenealogy.com/georgia/gacnty08.htm > >> >Thanks in advance. > >> > > >> >Becky > >> >Southeastern Genealogy Online > >> >www.segenealogy.com > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >==== GADADE Mailing List ==== > >> >Visit the USGenWeb Dade County site > >> >http://www.rootsweb.com/~gadade/index.htm > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >>==== GADADE Mailing List ==== > >>Find any good research materials or websites lately? > >>Please share... > > > > > >==== GADADE Mailing List ==== > >Resubmit your queries periodically to reach new listmembers. > >Approximately 12 new people subscribe each month. > > > > > > > ==== GADADE Mailing List ==== > GADADE is a mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest > in the Dade County, GA area. Researchers for Walker County, GA; > Marion County, TN; and Dekalb and Jackson Counties, AL are invited > to join as well. > ==== GADADE Mailing List ==== GADADE is a mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in the Dade County, GA area. Researchers for Walker County, GA; Marion County, TN; and Dekalb and Jackson Counties, AL are invited to join as well. --WebTV-Mail-11111-5663--

Sue, I would love to read the whole story about Dade County. Cat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beverly Forrester" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [GADADE] Can someone help with county info? > Hi Delilah, > > Well, if you ask some of older native Dade Countians this question you will > probably hear the story about Uncle Bob Tatum. Uncle Bob Tatum made the > firey peech in the house during the beginning of the Civil War that if the > state of Georgia didn't secede from the union then Dade County would secede > from the state of Georgia. >

OK Sue: Post the story. Do you mean to post the article by Dr. Merton Coulter, Georgia Historian, ha. Bet you don't dare. Anyway, his article is in the library at Trenton, I know, I gave it to the library. Also, are you going to post the court records of Dade for the years right after the Civil War when the citizens were begging for aid from the state. Doesn't read like they considered themselves Free. Or are you going to point out how many of those veterans got pensions from the state of Georgia. Old stories die hard regardless of who made them up or how totally illogical they may be. Paul Bet this means I have to slip in and out of the county now. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beverly Forrester" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 8:02 PM Subject: Re: [GADADE] Can someone help with county info? > Hi Delilah, > > Well, if you ask some of older native Dade Countians this question you will > probably hear the story about Uncle Bob Tatum. Uncle Bob Tatum made the > firey peech in the house during the beginning of the Civil War that if the > state of Georgia didn't secede from the union then Dade County would secede > from the state of Georgia. > > As the story goes, he then came home, called the men together and they voted > for Dade County to secede from the state. After the War was over it was > sorta of forgotten about until 1945 when Dade Co decided to return to the > state of Georgia. There was a big to do over it and it was broadcast around > the world via radio... we're talking about a major celebration here. > > However, no records have ever been found to prove that Dade County actually > did secede from the State. Really, people have combed state records trying > to prove it was all a made up story. > > There was a Robert Tatum and he was either in the house or senate during > the beginning of the Civil War. Personally, I think it is a wonderful story > and don't know if it happened or not. There was so much confusion during > that time period it could have happened and not recorded as I sure many > things were not. > > The state of Georgia built the road across Lookout Mountain during the late > 1930's, early 1940's plus the schools received state money and people voted > in the same state elections as everyone else. So, if it did happened or > didn't, we were still a part of the state during all of those years during > the War and afterward. > > Dade County has the nickname as being "The Independant State of Dade" or > "The Lost State of Dade". > > People born in the county during those years are still considered to have > been born in Georgia. The only thing that happened to our records were the > trying to survive courthouse fires... April 1853 and 21 Nov 1863 and maybe a > contained fire the latter part of the 1890's. > > If anyone is interested in the complete story, I will be glad to post it. > > Sue > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 8:33 AM > Subject: Re: [GADADE] Can someone help with county info? > > > > Thanks, Sue, I should have told her you were the one she needed to talk to > > - BTW, did you know that Dade County seceded (sp) from the Union and > became > > the State of Dade until about 1945 (would have to chek my info), what is > > the status of all those born and married there during that period - > > delilah evans/avans > > > > > > > > > > > > At 21:43 3/5/01 -0600, you wrote: > > >Thanks, I just need the blanks filled in where info is missing. > > > > > >At 07:13 AM 3/5/01 -0500, you wrote: > > >>what kind of help do you need? - I am a new subscriber to GADADE, my > dad > > >>was born on Durham Rd, Walker Cty - his parents and grandparents were > from > > >>there, his grandparents were married in Trenton - they worked for the > > >>Durham Coal and Mining Co. If I can help, let me know, I live in South > Ga. > > >>delilah evans/avans > > >> > > >> > > >>At 23:06 3/4/01 -0600, you wrote: > > >> >I am developing a website for Georgia Counties and > > >> >need someone that is familiar with this counties information to take a > > look > > >> >and see if anything needs to be corrected or added. Especially the > > >> >Local Genealogical Societies. Its located at > > >> > > > >> >http://segenealogy.com/georgia/gacnty08.htm > > >> >Thanks in advance. > > >> > > > >> >Becky > > >> >Southeastern Genealogy Online > > >> >www.segenealogy.com > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >==== GADADE Mailing List ==== > > >> >Visit the USGenWeb Dade County site > > >> >http://www.rootsweb.com/~gadade/index.htm > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >>==== GADADE Mailing List ==== > > >>Find any good research materials or websites lately? > > >>Please share... > > > > > > > > >==== GADADE Mailing List ==== > > >Resubmit your queries periodically to reach new listmembers. > > >Approximately 12 new people subscribe each month. > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== GADADE Mailing List ==== > > GADADE is a mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest > > in the Dade County, GA area. Researchers for Walker County, GA; > > Marion County, TN; and Dekalb and Jackson Counties, AL are invited > > to join as well. > > > > > ==== GADADE Mailing List ==== > GADADE is a mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest > in the Dade County, GA area. Researchers for Walker County, GA; > Marion County, TN; and Dekalb and Jackson Counties, AL are invited > to join as well. >

My Grandfather lived in Rising Fawn and was a coal miner. He and his family came to Okla to work in the mines here in 1900. Would he have worked at the Durham Mines or were they to far away from Lookout Mt.? Are there record me might look into that might have family info. His name was GEORGE E. MURRAY. He was orphaned by the Civil War and I have hit a brick wall.....Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 11:43 AM Subject: [GADADE] Re: GADADE #15 - Durham Coal Mines > My grand father also worked at the Durham Mines from about 1910 to 1920. His name was L.O. WILLIAMS. He married my grandmother while there (she was a ROWLAND). He was either a foreman, or he ran the commissary store. I have conflicting family stories. They lived in Durham and later moved to Chattanooga Valley on the rail line from Durham to the Chickamauga Coke ovens on the Walker Co. side of Lookout Mtn. Has there been any research done about the mines? I would dearly love to have copies of any pictures, documents, etc. from the mines. Thank you. >

My grand father also worked at the Durham Mines from about 1910 to 1920. His name was L.O. WILLIAMS. He married my grandmother while there (she was a ROWLAND). He was either a foreman, or he ran the commissary store. I have conflicting family stories. They lived in Durham and later moved to Chattanooga Valley on the rail line from Durham to the Chickamauga Coke ovens on the Walker Co. side of Lookout Mtn. Has there been any research done about the mines? I would dearly love to have copies of any pictures, documents, etc. from the mines. Thank you.

Thanks, Sue, I should have told her you were the one she needed to talk to - BTW, did you know that Dade County seceded (sp) from the Union and became the State of Dade until about 1945 (would have to chek my info), what is the status of all those born and married there during that period - delilah evans/avans At 21:43 3/5/01 -0600, you wrote: >Thanks, I just need the blanks filled in where info is missing. > >At 07:13 AM 3/5/01 -0500, you wrote: >>what kind of help do you need? - I am a new subscriber to GADADE, my dad >>was born on Durham Rd, Walker Cty - his parents and grandparents were from >>there, his grandparents were married in Trenton - they worked for the >>Durham Coal and Mining Co. If I can help, let me know, I live in South Ga. >>delilah evans/avans >> >> >>At 23:06 3/4/01 -0600, you wrote: >> >I am developing a website for Georgia Counties and >> >need someone that is familiar with this counties information to take a look >> >and see if anything needs to be corrected or added. Especially the >> >Local Genealogical Societies. Its located at >> > >> >http://segenealogy.com/georgia/gacnty08.htm >> >Thanks in advance. >> > >> >Becky >> >Southeastern Genealogy Online >> >www.segenealogy.com >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >==== GADADE Mailing List ==== >> >Visit the USGenWeb Dade County site >> >http://www.rootsweb.com/~gadade/index.htm >> > >> > >> >> >>==== GADADE Mailing List ==== >>Find any good research materials or websites lately? >>Please share... > > >==== GADADE Mailing List ==== >Resubmit your queries periodically to reach new listmembers. >Approximately 12 new people subscribe each month. > >

Becky, my name is Sue Forrester and I live in Dade County. When you ask for "blanks to be filled in" are you referring to County History, Name Origin and Societies? You do have a couple of things that need correcting. The state required birth and death records beginning in 1919. And Dade Co did have several filed beginning with 1919 forward. However, it wasn't until 1927 that the county started keeping a copy of the certificates that were filed with the state. In Dade County birth and death records are kept in the Office of Probate. Dade County had two courthouse fires. The first was in April 1853 and the second one was 21 November 1863. I can document both of those. There may have been a contained fire ca 1895 but I have not been able to find any information regarding it. Marriage records began in 1866. Land Records began in April 1853. A number of deeds that had been recorded prior to the April 1853 fire were re-recorded afterward the fire. Land records survived the 1863 fire. We have two probate books (one dated from 1853 and the other dated from 1855) that survived the 1863 fire. None before 1853 survived. There are NO loose probate papers until ca 1900. I'm not sure what court records you are taking about that began in 1854. Vital records: refer to the above birth and death records and they are located in the Probate Office. The Probate Office is located in the Justice Building and I do not know their mailing PO Box number. However, the one telephone number listed goes into this office. The deeds are located in the Clerk of Superior Court Office which is in the old courthouse building. Again, I do not know the mailing PO box number. We do have an active Dade County Historical Society. Their address is PO Box 512, Trenton, GA 30752. There is a small informal group who meets to share genealogy info. We have no officers and as I said it is very informal. Delta Genealogical Society which is based out of the Rossville Public Library (Walker Co) is a tri-state organization covering northwest GA, southeast TN and northeast AL. Their address is 504 McFarland Ave., Rossville, GA 30741. They publish a journal three times a year. I can give you the name origin and if you will tell me what you want in the nature of county history, I can do that also. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: bkn <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 12:06 AM Subject: [GADADE] Can someone help with county info? > I am developing a website for Georgia Counties and > need someone that is familiar with this counties information to take a look > and see if anything needs to be corrected or added. Especially the > Local Genealogical Societies. Its located at > > http://segenealogy.com/georgia/gacnty08.htm > Thanks in advance. > > Becky > Southeastern Genealogy Online > www.segenealogy.com > > > > > ==== GADADE Mailing List ==== > Visit the USGenWeb Dade County site > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gadade/index.htm >

Thanks, I just need the blanks filled in where info is missing. At 07:13 AM 3/5/01 -0500, you wrote: >what kind of help do you need? - I am a new subscriber to GADADE, my dad >was born on Durham Rd, Walker Cty - his parents and grandparents were from >there, his grandparents were married in Trenton - they worked for the >Durham Coal and Mining Co. If I can help, let me know, I live in South Ga. >delilah evans/avans > > >At 23:06 3/4/01 -0600, you wrote: > >I am developing a website for Georgia Counties and > >need someone that is familiar with this counties information to take a look > >and see if anything needs to be corrected or added. Especially the > >Local Genealogical Societies. Its located at > > > >http://segenealogy.com/georgia/gacnty08.htm > >Thanks in advance. > > > >Becky > >Southeastern Genealogy Online > >www.segenealogy.com > > > > > > > > > >==== GADADE Mailing List ==== > >Visit the USGenWeb Dade County site > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~gadade/index.htm > > > > > > >==== GADADE Mailing List ==== >Find any good research materials or websites lately? >Please share...

what kind of help do you need? - I am a new subscriber to GADADE, my dad was born on Durham Rd, Walker Cty - his parents and grandparents were from there, his grandparents were married in Trenton - they worked for the Durham Coal and Mining Co. If I can help, let me know, I live in South Ga. delilah evans/avans At 23:06 3/4/01 -0600, you wrote: >I am developing a website for Georgia Counties and >need someone that is familiar with this counties information to take a look >and see if anything needs to be corrected or added. Especially the >Local Genealogical Societies. Its located at > >http://segenealogy.com/georgia/gacnty08.htm >Thanks in advance. > >Becky >Southeastern Genealogy Online >www.segenealogy.com > > > > >==== GADADE Mailing List ==== >Visit the USGenWeb Dade County site >http://www.rootsweb.com/~gadade/index.htm > >

I am developing a website for Georgia Counties and need someone that is familiar with this counties information to take a look and see if anything needs to be corrected or added. Especially the Local Genealogical Societies. Its located at http://segenealogy.com/georgia/gacnty08.htm Thanks in advance. Becky Southeastern Genealogy Online www.segenealogy.com

Posted on: Dade County, GA Queries & Automated Mail List Postings Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ga/Dade/117 Surname: Kennedy, Scott, Cherokees, Creeks ------------------------- Im trying to get hold of Ms Scott i have a lot more Info on the kennedys.Also Im looking for info on the cherokee and the creek Indians in and around Dade And Marion County,Before and after the removal Of 1836.

Thomas Payne was in DeKalb County AL... Deer Head Cove area but it was listed PO Sulphur Springs on the census. I don't know of a connection between Thomas and Larkin Payne but that isn't to say there wasn't one. There are descendants of Larkin Payne living in Dade County now. Sue

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