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Columbia Co. Researchers: Please excuse me for sending STANFORD obits to this list by mistake. They were intended for another list. Good hunting, Leo Leonard

Hi Leo The historians who wrote the biography of Edw O'Neal could have easily gotten the information wrong. I see three "authorities" to the bio on the website. Like people in genealogy......one could have written inaccurate information and others just duplicated the inaccuracy. But basically it "appears" the State of Ala has Edw's birth date wrong and the relationship may be father and son. My recommendation would be to follow the "evidence" which is the court records, ie" Wills,census etc and build your own case. Pulling the census will sometimes give you a month and year. I've gained that info for at least two ancestors in Columbia Co and other times the census only gives me an estimated year. But you seem to be working with a big 4 or 5 year discrepancy with your information so the census (as many as you can pull) should narrow things down considerably. You might even want to present this discrepancy to Debbie Pendleton who oversees the Ala website. If they (State of Alabama) have it wrong, they would hopefully want to set the record straight. Good luck! Stephanie Harrison Leo Leonard wrote: > > Columbia Co., GA Researchers: > > I hope that someone can help me determine what relationship existed between > Edward O'Neal whose will is recorded in Columbia Co., GA Will Book H, p. 389 > and Edward Asbury O'Neal who was governor of Alabama 1882-1886. Were they > father and son, grandfather and grandson or were they related in some other > way? > > Consider the following abstract of the older Edward's will: > > LWT of Edward O'NEAL > Columbia Co., GA Will Book H, p. 389 > Signed 26 Nov 1816; Recorded 8 Jul 1817 > > Wife: Rebecca > > Children by Rebecca: > > July > Polly > Basil > Edward > > Children by Other Wife (Or Wives) > > Jane [m Thomas J. LUKE 4 Jan 1794 in Columbia Co., GA.] > Samuel O'NEAL > Keziah [m Thomas STANFORD 4 Mar 1799 in Columbia Co., GA.] > Fanny (Frances) m Samuel GERMANY > Elizabeth EUBANKS > Nancy WINFREY > Susannah O'NEAL > Peggy O'NEAL > > Grandson: Washington GERMANY (Son of Fanny and Samuel GERMANY) > > Executors: Rebecca O'Neal, Solomon Marshall, Harvey Wheat > > Presumably, the Edward O'Neal whose LWT is recorded in Columbia Co., GA Will > Book H, p. 389 died sometime between 26 Nov 1816 when he signed his will and > 8 Jul 1817 when the will was recorded. > > According to a biographical sketch found at the website of the Alabama > Department of Archives & History > http://www.archives.state.al.us/govs_list/g_oneale.html > > "Edward Asbury O'Neal was born September 20, 1818, in Madison County and > died November 20, 1890 in Florence, Lauderdale, County. He was the son of > Edward and Rebecca Wheat O'Neal, the former a native of Ireland. When Edward > was four years of age, his father died and his mother took over the family > affairs and the education of her sons." > > If this sketch is accurate, then, the father of Edward Asbury O'Neal would > have died between September 20, 1822 and September 20, 1823. The Edward who > was testator in the will died in 1817, a little more than five years before > the date given here for the birth of Edward Asbury O'Neal . Moreover, > according to the sketch it appears that the father of Edward Asbury O'Neal > would have died in AL; not in Columbia Co., GA assuming that he was not > separated from his wife and younger children at the time of his death. > > There is, however, another published biographical sketch which places the > death of the father of Edward Asbury O'Neal at three months after Edward A.' > s birth rather than four years [Memorial Record of Alabama. Vol. II. Brant & > Fuller. pp. 362-364] > > There is, then, some confusion in published sources concerning the date of > death of Edward Asbury O'Neal's father. > > According to the _Memorial_Record_of_Alabama_ already cited, Edward O'Neal > and Rebecca Wheat O'Neal had two sons Edward Asbury O'Neal and Basil Wheat > O'Neal who was a planter in Texas for many years and died there in 1881. > Notice that in the Columbia Co., GA will the testator, Edward, and his wife, > Rebecca, have two sons, Edward and Basil. > > One of the executors of the will was Harvey Wheat who was probably the > brother of Rebecca Wheat by that name. > > It is probably important to keep in mind that Edward O'Neal married Rebecca > Wheat 15 Feb 1806 in Columbia Co., GA. > > If anyone knows what the relationship was between the two Edward O'Neals > discussed above or can figure the relationship out from the evidence > presented here, I hope you will let me know. Also if you have any > documentary evidence which would have a bearing on this puzzle, I hope you > will tell me of it. > > Good hunting, > Leo Leonard > > ==== GACOLUMB Mailing List ==== > Columbia County Mailing List web page: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gacolumb/index.htm

Name----Age----Place of Death----Name of Publication----Date of Pub STANFORD, Anabel 94 Breckenridge TX Abilene Reporter-News Abilene, TX 2000-5-16 STANFORD, Bishop "Cotton" 91 Brownwood TX Abilene Reporter-News Abilene, TX 1998-5-6 STANFORD, Etta Jane 92 Early TX Abilene Reporter-News Abilene, TX 2000-2-19 STANFORD, Etta Jane (FLEMONS) 92 Brownwood TX Abilene Reporter-News Abilene, TX 2000-2-21 STANFORD, Gladys L 92 Stephenville TX Abilene Reporter-News Abilene, TX 2000-4-28 STANFORD, Gloria Jean 57 DeLeon TX Abilene Reporter-News Abilene, TX 1998-5-25 STANFORD, Jean 67 Rotan TX Abilene Reporter-News Abilene, TX 1999-6-29 STANFORD, Jean (HUTCHINGSON) 67 Rotan TX Abilene Reporter-News Abilene, TX 1999-6-30 STANFORD, John Wesley 72 Abilene TX Abilene Reporter-News Abilene, TX 1999-9-25 STANFORD, John Wesley 72 Jackson TN>Abilene TX Abilene Reporter-News Abilene, TX 1999-9-28

Name----Age----Place of Death----Name of Publication----Date of Pub STANFORD, Cora Lee (PARISH) 83 Tupelo MS Aberdeen Examiner Aberdeen, MS 1997-12-10 STANFORD, Leon 64 Oxford MS Aberdeen Examiner Aberdeen, MS 1997-3-5 STANFORD, William J L "Tuck" 68 Tupelo MS Aberdeen Examiner Aberdeen, MS 1997-1-29 STANFORD, Joe Max Sr 73 Acworth GA Aberdeen Examiner Aberdeen, MS 1997-1-8

Anne C. wrote: > Leo, have you looked at the Wiregrass of GA series by Judge Folks Huxford? > I'm sure I've seen O'Neals in there, along with other Columbia Co. names. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The O'Neal's in Huxford are: Henry 1814-1890, Thomas, Thomas P., Samuel Edwin, John, RS, William and Henry(1724-17880). If any of these are yours, let me know and I'll see if I can help. Joyce

Columbia Co., GA Researchers: I hope that someone can help me determine what relationship existed between Edward O'Neal whose will is recorded in Columbia Co., GA Will Book H, p. 389 and Edward Asbury O'Neal who was governor of Alabama 1882-1886. Were they father and son, grandfather and grandson or were they related in some other way? Consider the following abstract of the older Edward's will: LWT of Edward O'NEAL Columbia Co., GA Will Book H, p. 389 Signed 26 Nov 1816; Recorded 8 Jul 1817 Wife: Rebecca Children by Rebecca: July Polly Basil Edward Children by Other Wife (Or Wives) Jane [m Thomas J. LUKE 4 Jan 1794 in Columbia Co., GA.] Samuel O'NEAL Keziah [m Thomas STANFORD 4 Mar 1799 in Columbia Co., GA.] Fanny (Frances) m Samuel GERMANY Elizabeth EUBANKS Nancy WINFREY Susannah O'NEAL Peggy O'NEAL Grandson: Washington GERMANY (Son of Fanny and Samuel GERMANY) Executors: Rebecca O'Neal, Solomon Marshall, Harvey Wheat Presumably, the Edward O'Neal whose LWT is recorded in Columbia Co., GA Will Book H, p. 389 died sometime between 26 Nov 1816 when he signed his will and 8 Jul 1817 when the will was recorded. According to a biographical sketch found at the website of the Alabama Department of Archives & History http://www.archives.state.al.us/govs_list/g_oneale.html "Edward Asbury O'Neal was born September 20, 1818, in Madison County and died November 20, 1890 in Florence, Lauderdale, County. He was the son of Edward and Rebecca Wheat O'Neal, the former a native of Ireland. When Edward was four years of age, his father died and his mother took over the family affairs and the education of her sons." If this sketch is accurate, then, the father of Edward Asbury O'Neal would have died between September 20, 1822 and September 20, 1823. The Edward who was testator in the will died in 1817, a little more than five years before the date given here for the birth of Edward Asbury O'Neal . Moreover, according to the sketch it appears that the father of Edward Asbury O'Neal would have died in AL; not in Columbia Co., GA assuming that he was not separated from his wife and younger children at the time of his death. There is, however, another published biographical sketch which places the death of the father of Edward Asbury O'Neal at three months after Edward A.' s birth rather than four years [Memorial Record of Alabama. Vol. II. Brant & Fuller. pp. 362-364] There is, then, some confusion in published sources concerning the date of death of Edward Asbury O'Neal's father. According to the _Memorial_Record_of_Alabama_ already cited, Edward O'Neal and Rebecca Wheat O'Neal had two sons Edward Asbury O'Neal and Basil Wheat O'Neal who was a planter in Texas for many years and died there in 1881. Notice that in the Columbia Co., GA will the testator, Edward, and his wife, Rebecca, have two sons, Edward and Basil. One of the executors of the will was Harvey Wheat who was probably the brother of Rebecca Wheat by that name. It is probably important to keep in mind that Edward O'Neal married Rebecca Wheat 15 Feb 1806 in Columbia Co., GA. If anyone knows what the relationship was between the two Edward O'Neals discussed above or can figure the relationship out from the evidence presented here, I hope you will let me know. Also if you have any documentary evidence which would have a bearing on this puzzle, I hope you will tell me of it. Good hunting, Leo Leonard

Many thanks to those who explained the nature of the name JABEZ. And I thought it was Spanish! Ignorant in Birmingham

Columbia Co. List, Many years ago when I began research I took a class from a local genealogist. While she was talking about how names were given she said at one point rather facetiously. "And sometimes after they used up all the family names, they just named the baby after the doctor." In my family that proved to be true. A maternal great uncle was the doctor for a rural area in Texas His name was Dr. W. J. Spivey. Later while researching another line, I received information from a man named Spivey King. He told me that his family had felt a lot of admiration for their family doctor and he was named for the doctor. In his case the title "Doctor" was not used--name only but I have seen individuals named Doctor. CWB

Jabez, which means born in sorrow, was a son of Ashur. See I Chronicles 4, verse 9. Pat forgot to mention that God was well pleased with Jabez and honored above his brothers. Cathrine

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Posted on: Columbia Co. Ga Query Forum Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ga/Columbia/551 Surname: ROBERTS, SHIPP, LAW, CLAYTON, GRIFFIN, WILLINGHAM, SHEPHERD, REESE, GRAVES, AVERA ------------------------- Am looking for any information on possible siblings in early 1800's Columbia Co., GA, and specifically near Sullivan's Creek, Keg Creek and Little River. William Roberts m. Frances Clayton Charles Roberts m. ??? Rebecca Roberts m. Richard Shipp Elizabeth Law m. Elijah Law John Roberts Jesse Roberts There also may have been a Richard Roberts, Wiley Roberts and Shadrick Roberts, however, those given names do not appear to have been handed down as the ones above. Do know they were in same area, but do not know if they were related. Also looking for any information on Troy Griffin m. 1) Martha Willingham, 2) Adeline Shepherd Jesse Reese m. Rebecca ??? George Graves m. Luelender Avera/Avery Link: Roberts Family URL: <http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hollow/4302/roberts.splash.html>

Jabez, which means born in sorrow, was a son of Ashur. See I Chronicles 4, verse 9. Pat

Not having read the entire Bible, I can't say for sure, but my opinion is that it has some kind of Biblical reference. I've come across it several times in my family as a given name. They have always been Southern and with other siblings with Biblical names. On the subject of name origins - does anyone know why people name their children Doctor? I have a Doctor Jabez HARTNESS in my line. Several other Doctors as well. That one has always intrigued me. Was it a sign of the aspirations of the parents for the child? Carol Don't let another child be hurt by ignorance, educate yourself about Tourette Syndrome. www.tsa-usa.org ----- Original Message ----- From: <DDixon2795@aol.com> To: <GACOLUMB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 2:58 PM Subject: [GACOLUMB] the name Jabez : Does anyone know the meaning (English form) of the name JABEZ ? It sounds : Spanish to me. : Ignorant in Birmingham. : : : ==== GACOLUMB Mailing List ==== : Browse the Columbia County Mailing List Archives at : http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/gacolumb --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.226 / Virus Database: 108 - Release Date: 1/7/01

Does anyone know the meaning (English form) of the name JABEZ ? It sounds Spanish to me. Ignorant in Birmingham.

Hi Group and Cindy Weathersbee, The Tankersley family data in Columbia County is in fair shape so please correspond with me on that and allied families. Just ask any specific question and tell me where you are with your research and what you need and I will share what I have or work with you to try to get what you need. I will give a notice on the History of Columbia County book in a day or so giving the approximate content and news on the publication date and how to order. This book is not a genealogy book. Some care was taken to avoid the subject of individual family history except in the cases of our figures of national importance like The Few family for instance. Disclaimer: I am only a member of the historical society and have no financial interest in this book. Researching TANKERSLEY, JORDAN, DILL, BEASLEY, PASCHAL, BROOME, and allied families. Regards, Joe (Joseph Jordan) Tankersley Appling Georgia

I apologize for repeating what I'd said before on the List. It's been a long day! Anne C. ----- Original Message ----- > Charles, thanks for your reply re Jere AUSTILL. I agree much more could have been said about him. > > Rev. T. H. Ball's book (1882) on Clarke Co., AL, pp. 459-467, has a quite good sketch about Jeremiah's life and the AUSTILL family.

Charles, thanks for your reply re Jere AUSTILL. I agree much more could have been said about him. Rev. T. H. Ball's book (1882) on Clarke Co., AL, pp. 459-467, has a quite good sketch about Jeremiah's life and the AUSTILL family. He speaks of Evan moving his family from SC to the Cherokee agency (US Gov.) in GA to help "spread among the Cherokees the arts of civilization." He says, "Mrs. E. AUSTILL is said to have been the first white woman who ventured to live among the Cherokees." Says Jeremiah was born in SC in 1794, but five more were born while living in the agency. They were there nearly 14 yrs. When Evan decided to move on, the Cherokees begged him not to leave, offering much land if he would stay. Re Burnt Corn - Jeremiah was married in 1819 to Martha HAYSE/HAYES, dau. of Capt. James HAYSE/HAYES, postmaster at Burnt Corn Springs. She died a year later, of injuries suffered when she was startled by raiding Indians and fell from a rail fence. In 1834, he and Margaret EADES HAILS were married, two years after her husband's death. I don't see the Battle of Burnt Corn in his pension appl. - but he was at Ft. Madison in Clarke Co., served under Capt. Sam DALE in the Canoe Battle (wounded) and the Holy Ground Expedition, did much scouting, etc. I've heard that story about Caesar only holding the canoes, but in his personal account of the battle in the AL Archives, Jeremiah included Caesar as a participant. It was a horrendous fight. There is also a large painting of Jere there. The DAR grave marker calls him "Col." - I presume because of his later militia service. Regards, Anne Connell ----- Original Message ----- From: Charles Lee To: Connell Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 9:35 PM Subject: Jeremiah AUSTILL, Sir Thanks for the story of this family. In "The Canoe Fight" there were three men against several Indians. I have not seen the actual number of Indians, but in two accounts it is said as if it were "overwhelming odds". One of the three was a black man named Caesar. He did not help but only held the canoes together. When ask about this he replied that the Indians would have only taken him as a slave! The other besides Austill was Sam Dale. A Local hero, pioneer, Indian fighter. There was a fort named for him close to Greenville Alabama. Fort Dale. It is said the Indians were so impressed by this "fight", that they did not bother the settlers for some time. Wasn't Mr. Austill also in "the battle of Burnt Corn". The settlers heard about a war party coming from Pensacola with new supplies. Some Farmers and a few real soldiers found them encamped on Burnt Corn Creek. They sprang on the Indians and ran them off. But the farmers soon "broke rank" and began plundering the pack animals. The Indians regrouped and counter attacked and would have killed all of them if it were not for these brave military men who retreated to a defensive position and laid down covering fire. Said another way, these few men knew what to do, but it took incredible "Moxie", to do it. (muskets you know, not repeater rifle's!) As for Mr. Austill being Indian, from what I have read on Alabama History etc., If he was there before 1810-15, there is a very good chance that he was part Indian. Pickets Alabama history is on line; http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cmamcrk4/pktfm.html#anchor1397250 The Creek Indians are still there close to Atmore Alabama on "the Porch Indian reservation". a webb site for Creek Indians ; http://hometown.aol.com/dbreez9913/Secondwebpage1.html ----------------- Best Regards Charles L. Lee cllee@fls.infi.net

Posted on: Columbia Co. Ga Query Forum Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ga/Columbia/548 Surname: RAMSEY, FLEMING, MALONE, DUCKWORTH, GRUBBS ------------------------- Are your Grubbs related to the John Grubbs who was with John Ramsey and his children, James, William, Randolph, Christianna & Jeremiah Duckworth, Eleanor & Martin Malone, and Margaret & John Grubbs who had traveled down from Orange County, NC, about the time of the battle of Alamance? Some of them signed Regulators Advertisement #9 (see NC Colonial Records pp. 733-736) there including John and Benjamin Grubbs. John was in Columbia County in 1805 to sign a deed on his father-in-law's property(Col.Co.Deed Book "N" p.220), but I believe he and Margaret settled in Burke Co.,GA.

Posted on: Columbia Co. Ga Query Forum Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ga/Columbia/547 Surname: Grubbs, Dillard, Atkison, Cobb ------------------------- Francis Marion Grubbs was married to Mary Cobb in 1780 of Wilkes Co.Ga.(now Warren). She was the dau. of Joseph and Rachel (Ellis ?)Cobb.They left Columbia Co.Ga. in 1810 and settled at Clinton,La. in 1811. Left in Columbia Co.Ga. was Francis's brother Benjamin Grubbs,wife Mary (unknown) and their children:Joab Grubbs who married July 1,1786 Elizabeth Atkison or Atkinson and (G),(Z)or Juriah Grubbs who married George Dillard. George died in 1801. I am looking for any descendants of The Benjamin Grubbs Family or Dillard & Atkison ? Family Relatives. Widow Rachel Ellis Cobb married William McCullars ,a neighbor in Warren Co. Ga.(Little Briar Creek)near Warrenton,Ga.