Hi Connie, First of all, I spoke incorrectly in a recent post to the list. My Pearlie Kirkland is NOT a daughter of Joshua, but rather a daughter of Wm. Franklin Kirkland; Joshua would have been her grandfather. I am sorry for the misleading information and am also sending this to the list stating my mistake :-) Now, let's discuss James/John Cuyler Kirkland. This can be tricky because there were actually TWO men (that I'm aware of) with this name! And to further confuse the issue, some folks call him 'John Cuyler' while others show his name as 'James Cuyler' Kirkland. I have it listed as James/John in my data based on statements from two grandaughters of the brother of my Pearlie Kirkland. My Pearlie Kirkland did indeed have a brother named James (John) Cuyler Kirkland. The info you show for him is correct in that it does match what I have; he was born 10-12-1870/ died 3-19-1952 and married Charity Hughes on 1-12-1902. I have 12 children for this couple which include: Jeptha, died before 2000; no further data Stella Catherine, born abt. 1912; married Edward Carrol Austin John, married Willie Mae Readdock Sarah Geneva; married M Newton Young; 4 children Elma, born 2-24-1908; married James Franklin Stalvey Lillie, died before 2000; no further info Willis, died before 2000; no further info Frank, died before 2000; no further info Sue Lynn, born abt. 1921; married Palmore 'Parry' Harrell; 3 children Charity; married ? Stalvey; no further info Pearlie and James/John Cuyler Kirkland's father William Franklin Kirkland had a brother with this same name. Here's the info on THIS James/John Cuyler Kirkland: James/John Cuyler Kirkland was born 10-29-1849 in Madison Co., Fl. a son of Joshua Kirkland and Sarah Fender. He died 6-27-1928 in Ware Co., Waycross, Ga. He is buried at Kettle Creek Cemetery in Waycross, Ware Co., Ga. He was married to Barbara Thigpen on 3-4-1866 In Ware Co., Ga. Barbara Thigpen was born 4-8-1846, a daughter of Travis T Thigpen and Mary Davis (source: Luther Thigpen). Barbara died 8-16-1924 in Ware Co and is also buried at Kettle Creek Cemetery. I have 10 children for James/John Cuyler and Barbara Kirkland: David Cuyler, born 1-2-1868; died 4-10-1934 Lilian Virginia, born 12-16-1869; married Lemuel Miller; 5 children Joshua Mose, born 4-19-1871; died 4-7-1933 Fl. Stafford, born 7-28-1873; died 11-16-1940 William Frank, born 11-30-1875; died 5-11-1946 Fl. Travis James, bor 9-27-1878; died 9-7-1958 Fl. Kiler K, born 9-11-1880; died 10-27-1943 Fl. Alfred L, born 11-26-1883; married Etta B. ?; 4 children Carrie, born 10-21-1895; died 7-24-1896 Maggie, born 10-21-1895; died 2-6-1962 Ware Co., Ga; buried Kettle Creek. If I only show the dates of birth/death, it means that I don't have other family info on the above children. Maybe this clears up my mistake on stating Pearlie and James/John Cuyler Kirkland were children of Joshua. I apologize again for this error; this brother/sister were children of Wm. Franklin Kirkland and grandchildren of Joshua. If anyone has further info on any of the above people, please submit it to the list. I'd love to fill in the blanks on the families of these children of both these men :-) Regards, Nancy E Parr -----Original Message----- From: Connie <erowe@surfsouth.com> To: Nancy Parr <nancparr@bellsouth.net> Date: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 1:47 AM Subject: James Kyler or Cuyler Or Kiler Kirkland >Hi Nancy. I am having a lot of problems with this James Cuyler (or >whatever!) Kirkland. Will you be so kind as to look at this file >below. I do not have these children as the children of Joshua........