Geraldine, I was just looking at the census for 1880 Hickory Flat Cherokee Co. I am trying to pick up clues to my g grandmother's family. I noticed there were a large number of Bates living there. If you need a census look up I will do it for you. Also, I need some advice on my g grandmother. She was Frances E (Franny or Fanny) Wates born abt 1860 GA? She is on the 1880 census I mentioned above married to James W Webb born 1845 SC with the first child Laura J age 3. I cannot find a marriage record for them. I have their death records and Frances says her mother was Sarah father was Charlie and that she was born in TN. I have looked and looked and can't place her in a family with parents of these names. I am wondering if it would be a possibility that her name could have actually been BATES and not WATES. Her son O C Webb gave the info she was 79 when she died. Any ideas from anyone will be so greatly appreciated! I am stumped on this!!! thanks, Mary