Thanks Bob, I am trying to figure out why my grandparents went to Florida to get married. I don't believe we had any family in Florida and it looks like they were there for at least a month before the wedding. I thought that because my grandmother was actually only 16 that Georgia may have required permission where Florida may not have. Just guessing! Tubby's would be great to do again!!!! I will be passing through Georgia again that weekend. Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Carter Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 10:07 PM To: GACHATHA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GACHATHAM] Georgia marriages Hey Pam! We all need to get back to Tubby's! :-) Not sure on the marriage regulations in 1886, but I'd bet there weren't any. Say hello to your son for us! Bob Carter Greensboro, NC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pamela Ward" <rkivem0m@msn.com> To: <GACHATHA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 9:42 PM Subject: [GACHATHAM] Georgia marriages > Does any one know if there were marriage regulations in Georgia around 1886? Would a girl of 17 need parental consent?? > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hey Pam! We all need to get back to Tubby's! :-) Not sure on the marriage regulations in 1886, but I'd bet there weren't any. Say hello to your son for us! Bob Carter Greensboro, NC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pamela Ward" <rkivem0m@msn.com> To: <GACHATHA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 9:42 PM Subject: [GACHATHAM] Georgia marriages > Does any one know if there were marriage regulations in Georgia around 1886? Would a girl of 17 need parental consent?? > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Does any one know if there were marriage regulations in Georgia around 1886? Would a girl of 17 need parental consent??

In a message dated 3/3/03 12:26:42 AM, tstowell@chattanooga.net writes: << Thanks Susan for bringing that to my attention and to Frank and Bob for giving the new URL. It's now been corrected on the Chatham County page. >> Thanks Tim! Susan

Chapter 3 - The Arrival of Governor Reynolds was added this morning to: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gachatha/1868hist.htm Tim

The beginnings of the 1868 Historical record of the city of Savannah has finally started going online. We begin with the Preface and the Roll of Honor plus an 1868 map of the city. http://www.rootsweb.com/~gachatha/1868hist.htm Once this book is done, I've at least two more in the works. Tim

Thanks Susan for bringing that to my attention and to Frank and Bob for giving the new URL. It's now been corrected on the Chatham County page. Tim At 11:08 AM 3/2/03 -0500, you wrote: >The name of the library changed. Try: www.liveoakpl.org > >Frank J. > >-----Original Message----- >From: EAlt117@aol.com [mailto:EAlt117@aol.com] >Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 10:46 AM >To: GACHATHA-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [GACHATHAM] What happened to this Link? > > >This page doesn't seem to exist anymore. What happened???: > >Obituary Index - Savannah Morning News 1920's and 1987 - 1996 > >Susan Marshall > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go >to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

In a message dated 3/2/03 11:08:10 AM, ftjjax@earthlink.net writes: << The name of the library changed. Try: www.liveoakpl.org >> Thanks, I was afraid they stopped the page. Susan

Try this link and click on the Genealogy link to the left: http://www.liveoakpl.org/ Bob Carter Greensboro, NC ----- Original Message ----- From: <EAlt117@aol.com> To: <GACHATHA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 10:46 AM Subject: [GACHATHAM] What happened to this Link? > This page doesn't seem to exist anymore. What happened???: > > Obituary Index - Savannah Morning News 1920's and 1987 - 1996 > > Susan Marshall > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

The name of the library changed. Try: www.liveoakpl.org Frank J. -----Original Message----- From: EAlt117@aol.com [mailto:EAlt117@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 10:46 AM To: GACHATHA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [GACHATHAM] What happened to this Link? This page doesn't seem to exist anymore. What happened???: Obituary Index - Savannah Morning News 1920's and 1987 - 1996 Susan Marshall ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

This page doesn't seem to exist anymore. What happened???: Obituary Index - Savannah Morning News 1920's and 1987 - 1996 Susan Marshall

Researching the line of P. C. McElveen family.  They lived in the Brooklet area.  Paul was born around 1894.  Does anyone who researches this line know which one of the four McElveen brothers -William, Moses, Adam or Robert - that he is connected with?  Thank you for any information.  jan stewart

Researching the line of P. C. McElveen family. They lived in the Brooklet area. Paul was born around 1894. Does anyone who researches this line know which one of the four McElveen brothers -William, Moses, Adam or Robert - that he is connected with? Thank you for any information. jan stewart

Thank you Bob!! You are a neat person, as always. Judy In a message dated 2/27/03 12:14:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, jrpv@netzero.net writes: << Subj: [GACHATHAM] Cemeteries in Effingham Co GA Date: 2/27/03 12:14:38 PM Eastern Standard Time From: jrpv@netzero.net (JohnRobert Peavy) Reply-to: GACHATHA-L@rootsweb.com To: GACHATHA-L@rootsweb.com Dear Researchers, The Historic Effingham Society recently received its updated cemetery book Effingham County Cemeteries 1734 to 2001 >>

Dear Researchers, The Historic Effingham Society recently received its updated cemetery book Effingham County Cemeteries 1734 to 2001 edited by Antoinette "Toni" FREEMAN and Betty FORD RENFRO (297 pp, indexed, hardback 8 1/2" x 11"), which covers 90 cemeteries and includes over 12,000 names from the years 1734 through 2001. There are location descriptions for the cemeteries as well as map references, and nine pages of pictures of local cemetery monuments. The cost of the book is $38 plus $5 for shipping and handling. Checks should be made out to Historic Effingham Society. If ordering by mail, please send your mailing address and a check for the $43 total to: Historic Effingham Society Post Office Box 999 Springfield GA 31329 The Historic Effingham Society is headquartered in the Old Jail Museum in Springfield (at the corner of Pine and Early Streets, just northwest of the Effingham Co GA Court House). The society's webpage should be available soon. The museum, which has exhibits for many aspects of the county's history and prehistory, is open on Sunday afternoons from 2-5 PM; admission is free, but they do accept donations. Copies of the cemetery book, as well as other publications and the society's calendars (which include pictures from Effingham County from long ago), are available for purchase at the museum (without shipping and handling charges, of course). May God Bless You All and Your Families, Bob (John Robert) PEAVY Post Office Box 1519 Rincon GA 31326-1519 jrpv@netzero.net Note: I had not gotten a copy of the initial 1994 edition before it quickly went out of print, so I'd waited (patiently?) several years for the completion and printing of this update. As to the museum itself, in addition their accustomed enthusiasm for a quick review of how hard life used to be (wood stoves, iceboxes, irons made of iron, &c.), kids like to be "locked up" in the jail cells -- you may (only momentarily, of course) enjoy their incarceration yourself. ________________________________

> (Just passing this info on to you... ) > > Subject: Car thieves > > > Just heard this from a friend. Apparently car thieves have yet again found a > way around the system and steal your car or truck without any effort at all. > > > The car thieves peer through the windshield of your car or truck, write down > the VIN number from the label on the dash, go into the local dealership for > that car brand and request a duplicate key for it from the VIN number. > > > Car dealerships make up a duplicate key from the VIN number, collect payment > from the 'customer' who's really a would-be car thief for making up the > duplicate key -- the car thief goes back to your vehicle, inserts the key > they've just gotten and off they drive with your car or truck. > > > They don't have to break in, don't have to damage the vehicle and draw no > attention to themselves as all they have to do is to walk up to your car, > insert the key and off they go to their chop shop with your vehicle!!! > > > Can you believe it? > > > To avoid this from happening to you, simply put opaque tape (like a strip of > electrical tape, duct tape or medical tape) across the VIN label located on > the dash board. You can't remove the VIN number legally under most state > laws, so cover it so that it can't be viewed through the windshield by a car > thief. > > > Anyway, feel free to forward this on before some other car thief steals > another car or truck like this. >

Appendix A: Occupational classifications used in the 1850 Census of Population http://www.bls.gov/soc/socrpt929.pdf Bob Carter Greensboro, NC

Dear Margie HENDRIX BARDEN, Effingham Co GA has had two distinct sets of GRAHAMs (so far, I've not found that my children are descended from either): (1) your earlier group (including John GRAHAM d 1835 & Selete CRAWFORD d 1839), and (2) the later group, who are descendants of Almon E. GRAHAM (of MA) d 1859 & Sarah A. HUNTER (of Screven Co GA) d 1860. The later group has a number of tie-ins with my mother's BOYKINs and other Screven Co GA families (many through their HUNTER cousins). This later group married into many Effingham Co GA families (AMBROSE, EDWARDS, HODGES, MORGAN, KESSLER, USHER, WILSON, &c.) as well as a few Screven Co GA families (BRANNEN, COURSEY, PRYOR, &c.) and I believe that the large majority of GRAHAM descendants in the area today belong to this later clan. Your earlier clan also has a number of associations with Effingham Co GA families, especially HODGES, and some with Bulloch & Screven Cos GA families. Although other researchers have graciously shared information about some of the family having moved on to MS, I myself have no proof for John GRAHAM being the son of William Dugal GRAHAM & Flora SCRUGGS (the use of exact dates may mean that there is a family Bible record). I'll forward an e-mail message that contains Joyce HODGES FEAZELL's family outline for the folks about whom you are interested (you may already have all this), Subject: GRAHAM Effingham Co GA to MS. Although one of the daughters of John GRAHAM & Selita CRAWFORD is named Celete Ann Duncan GRAHAM SOWELL (and perhaps her mother indeed has the same middle name), I believe that the mother was nee CRAWFORD. Incidentally these HODGES are my wife's bunch, and are a different clan from the Bulloch Co GA HODGES from whom I am descended. I haven't done much e-mail correspondence lately. Although I am retired, family matters (activities and health), a book project, editing a chapter of military history, and work for research clients have kept me too busy to indulge myself too much. I believe that you live in our area, so the following services may be of little interest to you (you can ably take care of things yourself). As alluded to in the accompanying forwarded e-mail message (Subject: CRAWFORD Effingham Co GA), I offer research services to those interested in Bulloch, Chatham, Effingham & Screven Cos GA history and families: As part of the research that I do for genealogical clients, I use a digital camera (the use of which was kindly suggested by Dale REDDICK) to produce images of documents in the local courthouses and libraries (NOT including the Georgia Historical Society -- "scans" there involve both permission and a hefty fee!). For known documents (no actual research) for which I do not need to do additional travel (that is, when my work takes me to that court house or library already), my fee is $2 per document (for up to 4 images of longer documents), in advance. I forward the images to clients by e-mail in .jpg format (about 550k in size for each image). For actual research efforts, other fee arrangements are necessary. I had studied your GRAHAMS originally because two of the GRAHAM daughters married into my wife's HODGES family: Flora GRAHAM m Isaac HODGES and gave us a terrific Bible record (I've only seen transcriptions, not the original) and Margaret Ann GRAHAM m Samuel HODGES (his m2, my wife is descended from his m1 Jane BLACK NEALIN HODGES CHARLTON) -- she also had a natural child by James TUTLLE, Caroline Amanda GRAHAM/TUTTLE (sometimes HODGES) JAMES. My research for your GRAHAMs was generally confined to local primary sources, so I have little information about the MS connection. Although my work keeps me fairly involved, if I can answer any questions through my archive of my own research messages (that is, no new research), I am glad to do so as my time permits. Happy Valentines Day, and May God Bless You and Your Family, Bob (John Robert) PEAVY Post Office Box 1519 Rincon GA 31326-1519 jrpv@netzero.net Note: I am a descendant John HENDRICKS Sr RS & Mary TALLANT (gggggparents -- I lack proof concerning her maiden name & parents) through Elizabeth HENDRICKS EVANS (of the smaller Screven Co GA EVANS clan), John C. EVANS (disappeared in NC after the surrender in 1865), Rodney Elizabeth EVANS PEVEY (evidently named after her gmother and her gmother's boarder, Dr Rodney BURKE), Eulie Hudson PEAVY (my gfather, who is buried at Little Ogeechee Baptist Church). ____________________________ From: M.H. Barden To: jrpv@netzero.net Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 Subject: Graham ~ Effingham Co. AHGP I descend from John Graham and Selete Duncan Graham who died in Effingham Co, GA in the 1830's. Are these your Grahams? My sisters and I are looking for proof of the parentage of John's parents, Dugal Graham and Flora Scruggs Graham who died in MS in 1821 and 1836 or 1837. Any help would be appreciated. I will share with you anything we have. Margie Barden

Hi Jo, I am forwarding your message to our list owner and he will make the necessary changes as soon as he sees this. If you run into any problems, just let me know. Regards, Nancy E Parr, Hostess ----- Original Message ----- From: "J.T. & Jo Coleman" <jtnjo@ala.net> To: <GACHATHA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 12:03 PM Subject: [GACHATHAM] email address change > I am moving to jtnjo@centurytel.net can you switch me over? Thanks Jo > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

I am moving to jtnjo@centurytel.net can you switch me over? Thanks Jo