Found an interesting article in the book, about a murder and hanging in Heard County and Carroll County, GA area. As with all written histories, there may be more to the story than told in this accounting. How sad for both of the families involved in any case. Georgia's Last Frontier, by James C. Bonner page 124, 125, 126 " Disorderly conduct, even violence and murder, were not unusual for Carroll County in the 1880's and 1890's. Attendance upon Superior Court trials and viewing an occasional public hanging were acceptable social diversions for men, although women were always among the spectators. The most sensational murder in the community's annals occurred in Heard County near the Carroll line in 1884. This crime involved John Smith, a notorious character who lived south of Roopville. Smith's career as a desperado began in 1876 when he was twenty-three. He and a cousin John Craven, became involved in a Christmas brawl at the house of Green Huckaba, at Blue Shin in Heard County. Smith's companion, Craven, was stabbed to death by Robert Huckaba, an act later adjudged as justifiable homicide. A feud between the Huckeba family and their relations on one hand, and the Craven and Smith families on the other, increased in intensity over the ensuing years. Smith was said to have killed a number of men during this period and he became a terror to the community. In January 1884, the family feud erupted in a second brawl. Encountering Robert Huckaba in the woods near Black Jack Mountain, John Smith dismounted from his horse and fired several shots at him without warning. However, none of the shots were fatal. A year later, Smith, his brother An? and A.S. King came to Samuel Barker's farmhouse near the Carroll-Heard line. With drawn pistol, Smith cursed Barker and his wife, struck the former a blow, and then shot him to death in the presence of three eye witnesses. The crime was called "the most willful and cold blooded murder that ever disgraced the annals of the local history. For several days Smith was hunted by a posse of several hundred men and finally was captured three miles south of Roopville on a ruse organized by Sheriff James Hewitt and his deputy John Skipper. Secreted for a brief period at the home of John Roop, he later was brought to the Carrollton Jail. Because of Smith's numerous and prominent connections in Heard County where he was indicted, it was difficult to obtain a qualified jury to try him. However after a trial lasting three days, in January 1886, he was sentenced to be hanged. Smith's execution did not take place until June of the following year. In the meantime desperate efforts were made to have his sentence commuted and once Governor John B. Gordon granted him a brief respite from death. While languishing in jail, he was married to Mit Levens, who had been threatened with prosecution on a charge involving the illegality of their former relationship. Smith had been married on two previous occasions and was the father of two children. The significant aspect of the execution was it's bizarre character at a public spectacle. "A good many Carrolltons speak of going down to the John Smith hanging at Franklin today", wrote the editor of the "Free Press" on June 17th. Later the paper carried several columns captioned "Heard's Terror John W. Smith hangs in presence of 3,000 people." The "Free Press" did not omit a single gruesome detail of the execution, including events immediately preceding and following it. Before taking Smith from the jail to the gallows, which had been erected a half mile away, Sheriff John Lipscomb had placed a hangman's noose around the condemned man's neck. "The crowd rushed through the town, throught he woods, down the hill like a sweeping mighty avalanche", wrote an eye witness. During the divine service preceeding the execution, men and boys climbed trees with shouts and laughter. In his remarks to the crowd, the weeping prisoner proclaimed his innocence. In a somewhat contradictory statement, he attributed his conviction to lies and his own downfall to whiskey. He pleaded with the Sheriff not to proceed with the execution. The Sheriff bade him farewell three times before springing the trap. The rope was afterward torn into thousands of pieces by souvenier seekers. Smith's body was brought under guard to Roopville where it was interred in the James D. Green Cemetery, two miles north of that village. ....The 1890 decade was perhaps the most lawless in Carroll's postwar history. In 1893 alone, a year of depression and Populist politics, two people were cut to death in fights, two others were shot in brawls, and a few robberies were committed. Three murder cases were tried in the new courthouse during the first year of it's use. The day is not far distant when Carroll County can furnish some Rube Barrow's, Jesse James and brutish outlaws, one said...."

Looking for information on the John Conner who was an early settler in the Coweta/Carroll Co. area-possibly in the Villa Rica Area. WhitePaul@aol.com

I posted this last night in reply to Candace's query about the relationship between Winston Wood and Kerney Young. Winston was mentioned in Kerney Young's will. Although it is conjecture, thought it might halp someone establish a link, so I'm sending it to the list. >>>Candace, I may be able to establish a little connection between these families. I don't know exactly who Kerney Young is, but you mention Richard Young andThomas Blake. Thomas Blake (1800-1880), my GGgrandfather, married Delaney Young in 1823. Delaney was the daughter of Robert Young and Seally Strickland of Hall County (Flowery Branch). Thomas' brother Allen Blake married Delaney's sister, Luzaney Gadsey Young. Thomas and Delaney moved to Carroll County early in 1826 where their daughter, Nancy Blake, was born in June of 1830. Thomas was appointed a Justice of the Peace for Carroll County by Governor Gilmer in 1830, and later re-commissioned by Governor Troup. My point here is that he was a very upstanding member of the community, as were the Woods. The Blakes moved to Randolph County, Alabama, as soon as the Creek Indian land was ceded, about 1833, and were accompanied by several members of the Young family, including Isaac and Richard Young. Winston himself is mentioned, I believe, in a piece on Randolph County which appeared in the Wedowee, Alabama newspaper. Thomas' daughter, Nancy Blake, grew up and married Winston Wood's son, William Thomas Wood in 1847. Nancy would be the daughter of Delaney Young Blake, therefore establishing a connection between the Young family and the Wood family. I would venture a guess that Kerney is somehow related to Delaney Young and the Youngs of Hall County and the relationship between the two familes was established long before this marriage. The Youngs, the Blakes and the Woods were all pioneers of this area. Nancy Blake Wood is buried in the Wood cemetery on the Old Wood farm (now the Ivan Allen farm) in Heard county...which very well may have at one time been Carroll. Nancy was the sister of my great-grandfather, Isaac Blake. My facts are from the book, "Southern Blakes," by Kate Blake Daus. I haven't researched the Young family at all but there is a Young Family Cemetery online which lists Robert and Seally Strickland Young and a few of their children. Go to Ancestry.com's database "Northwest Georgia Cemeteries."<<< Hope this helps someone, Judy

Will of Kerney Young Carroll County, Georgia Recorded May 4, 1841 In the name of God Amen, I, Kerney Young, of the County of Carroll and State of Georgia, being poorly but sound in mind and understanding do make this my last Will and Testament. First, I desire that Winston Wood of Heard County and Augustin Young of Paulding County, Georgia be my administrators. As soon after my decease as convenient I will that my nephew now with me have five hundred dollars to be placed in the hands of said Wood for the benefit of said Kerney, to my brother Bennet's three children two hundred dollars each, to Augustin Young's son Russell a black horse colt, to Seally Taylor now with brother Bennett's widow two hundred dollars when she marries to be placed in the hands of Winston Wood, that my horses and cattle be sold and stock of all kinds except my riding horse I give to my father and proceeds equally divided between Augustin and Wilson's children when they become of age. The lot of land now my residence to my newphew Kerney Young now with me, my land in the State of Alabama to be sold and the proceeds to the children of Augustin and Wilson Young, to Redman B. Young and Asberry Young three cows and calves each my household and kitchen furniture to be sold and the proceeds to said Augustin and Wilson's children; Lot of land one hundred and fifty three in this district to Kerney Young my nephew and Levi my negro boy; the balance of my negroes sold and the money equally divided between the children of Augustin, Wilson and Bennetts children. April 25, 1841. Kerney Young (seal); written by H.P. Mabry by his consent and request. Witnessed by Dempsey W. Clayton, Walter Knight, H.P. Mabry. Recorded May 4, 1841. June 8, 1841 - - Carroll County, Georgia - - Inventory of the Estate of Kerney Young, deceased. Inventory of the property by H.P. Mabry, Robert Little, B.M. Freeman, James Vessels, Isaiah Beck, J.P., Appraisors. Augustin Young, Executor. Mentions notes of Robert Little, James Wallis, David Smith, H.W. Davis, Wm. G. Springer, Augustin Young, Eliza Baxter, S.H. and Jacob McKee, Ezekiel Arnold, E.B. Martin, J.S. Boggess, J. Dean, John White, Thomas Blake, Josiah Groggins, Thomas Cheaves, Wm. and Winston Wood, William Stewart, James Vissels, J. Vissels, and J.C. Baker, Martha McDonald and Wm. J. Breed, Wm. H. Cunningham, Thomas F. Lundie, Thos.Johnson, J.P., Robert Jones. July 17, 1841. Dec 22, 1841 - -Kerney Young, deceased, Sale of Property - - Purchasers were Isiah Beck Sr., W.R. Young, Augustin Young, H.G. Stoker, Winston Wood, Asbery Young, Richard Averea, George Pentecost, John Heard, Richard Young, Samuel Averea, Lee Bird, James Sextan, Eli Benson, John R. Wood, Curtis Williams, Green Davis, H.P. Mabry, James Vessels, John Nixon, Isaac Young, William Stewart, H.G. Ezell, Micajah Sanders, Jesse Robinson, A.J. Bogess, Obediah White, Anderson Boggs, Gilbert Hutson, R.M. Fletcher, James H. Standley. Total $1715.37. Recorded Dec 22, 1841.

I recently obtained the following information from the family Bible of CHRISTOPHER COLUMBUS BOYD, (Uncle Lum") who lived in Carroll County, GA. Uncle Lum was the brother of my great-grandmother LOUISA ELIZABETH BOYD PAYNE. Both were children of ROBERT BOYD and SARAH ANN LeGUIN who lived in Meriwether County, GA, and then Carroll County, GA. This Bible is in the possession of my mother, MARIAN PAYNE McWHORTER who remembers her Uncle Lum fondly. JOSEPH JOSHUA PAYNE was born January 20, 1854. (Husband of Louisa Elizabeth Boyd. Joseph was said to have been a circuit-riding Methodist minister.) JOSEPH died Sept. 30, 1891, age 38 years, 8 months, 10 days. (My mother says cause of death was typhoid fever. He is buried in Powell's Chapel UMC cemetery, Villa Rica, Carroll Co., GA) LOUISA ELIZABETH BOYD was born February 1, 1858. (Louisa died 23 March 1950. She is also buried in Powell's Chapel. I remember "Grandma Payne" well. She lived with her daughter and son-in-law, Will White and Milie Ann Payne White, on a farm on Bankhead Highway [I think it's Hwy. 78] just outside Austell. Uncle Will had a bait shop next to the house. They also grew sugar cane.) JOSEPH JOSHUA PAYNE and his wife, L.E. PAYNE was (sic) married December the 15th [could be 13th] 1877. COIE LANZA PAYNE was born September 9th, 1878. (Son of Joseph & Louisa Boyd Payne. Uncle Coie [pronounced "Coy"] was married to Aunt Annie, last name unknown. Their children were Kathleen and Ralph) ROBERT STEPHEN PAYNE was born April 9th, 1882. (Son of Joseph and Louisa) MILIE ANN PAYNE was born May 13th, 1885. (Aunt Milie married WILL WHITE. I only know of one of their children, LOUISE WHITE who married JOE WINGO) SARAH JANE PAYNE was born April 6th, 1888. Sarah died 13 June 1952 from a stroke. (Sarah was my grandmother. She married JOHN ALLEN McWHORTER on 19 Aug. 1906 in Carroll Co.) GOOLY ROSS PAYNE was born January 7th, 1891. Gooly died June 11th, 1891, age five months and five days. Gooly is buried at Powell's Chapel. CHRISTOPHER COLUMBUS BOYD was born March 29th, 1847. MELVINA BOYD was born May 29th, 1850. [Not sure of the relationship of the following. I have just begun my research on this part of the family] NANCY ANN BOYD was born September 30th, 1863. SARAH FLORENCE SLONE was born February 4th (?), 1869 LUCY LOUANA ROSANNAH SLONE was born September 11th, 1872. W.F. SLONE was born March 12th, 1874. EMER LOURENA (?) SLONE was born February 28th, 1879. CHRISTOPHER C. BOYD and his wife, SARAH G.H. BOYD was (sic) married October 18th, 1868. LAFAYETTE RANDOLPH BOYD was born November 14th, 1870 MRS. SARAH ANN BOYD died June 21st, 1889. If anyone can help me tie these strings together, I would appreciate it. Looking for BOYD, PAYNE, SLONE (Sloan?) and LeGUIN. Many thanks, Judy Kilgore, Newnan, GA JodieK444@aol.com

If your ancestors lived in or migrated through Carroll or Chattahoochee counties in GA, would love to have you come by and visit the USGenWeb county sites at http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/Carroll/ and http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/CHA/ Also, don't forget the ECAR site at http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/ECAR/ which is for researchers in east-central AL as well as the central GA border counties. If you have a website with genealogical information about your ancestors in any of these areas, please send me your url so that I can put a link to you. If you have any data (cemetery info, etc.) that you are willing to share, or if you would be willing to do lookups for these areas, please post to me. Your contribution of time and information would be much appreciated by other researchers who visit the sites! Carol C-H <cch@netdoor.com> http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/ RootsWeb listowner http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/lists/ CC for Carroll County, GA http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/Carroll/ CC for Chattahoochee County, GA http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/CHA/

Just yesterday my mother-in-law and I discovered the name of her gggrandfather, Joseph J. JOHNSTON. We've also found the service pension applicationof his widow, Elizabeth. In it is a affadavit stating the Joseph was in the GA. Res., company K and that while on sick furlough during July 1864 he was captured and sent to Fort Douglas, Illinois where he died in October 1864. His death left ten children fatherless, including my children's gggrandfather, John T. JOHNSTON. The family was usually listed as "Johnson" on most census records. I've since found them on the 1842 Tax Digest, 1850 and 1860 census. I still need to check for Elizabeth in the 1870 onward. Her last pension application was filed in January 1905, so I assume she died in that year. Does anyone know or have any further information on this family or that CSA unit? I assume that "GA. Res" stand for Georgia Reserves, but I don't have any further information. We are very excited about this "find" and hope that someone else is connected. Thanks for any help or information. Carole

Thanks Susan. I hadn't received a response and I was not aware of this book. Thanks again, Pam

GACARROL-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > Subject: > > GACARROL-D Digest Volume 00 : Issue 58 > > Today's Topics: > #1 Heritage book? [Ptm2754@cs.com] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from GACARROL-D, send a message to > > GACARROL-D-request@rootsweb.com > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Heritage book? > Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 10:26:09 EDT > From: Ptm2754@cs.com > To: GACARROL-D@rootsweb.com > > Is there a Heritage Book of Carroll County? Sorry this is so delayed. Did anyone ever answer your question? Are you aware of the book AT HOME IN CARROLLTON 1827-1994, published by the Carroll County Historical Society. I know it's not on all of Carroll County, but it's an excellent resource for Carrollton. Susan

Wondering how the Land (Lands) families in Carroll County, GA were connected/related to the James M. Cook family, some of whom moved on to Cleburne County, AL by 1880's. These are the Land (Lands) families I am wondering about: 1850 census Carroll County, GA household 386 Jacob Land, age 40, farmer, born South Carolina Marissa Land, age 45, born South Carolina Zadoc Land, age 19, born Georgia John Land, age 17, born Georgia Theodore Land, age 16, born Georgia Jefferson MEDAIRUS, age 18, born Georgia Margaret STORY, age 60, born South Carolina Julia STORY, age 24, born South Carolina next door Rachael Land, age 70, farmer, born South Carolina Rachael Land Jr., age 40 (insane), born South Carolina household 1011 Reuben Land, age 35, farmer, born NC (?) Mary Land, age 29, born NC Elizabeth Land, age 14, born NC Mary Ann Land, age 13, born NC Nancy Land, age 11, born NC Sarah Land,a ge 9, born NC Milly Land, age 8, born NC Delvina Land, age 6, born NC Abraham Land, age 4, born NC Reuben Land,age 1, born Georgia Wm. LYLES, age 64, born NC Question about the following household (from a transcribed book version of the 1850 census for Carroll County, GA: Could this be COOK instead of ROOKS? I am wondering if this is the James M. Cook who married Isabel Lands (Land) in 1848 in Carroll County, GA, (this also shows as a marriage to A. J. Rooks? in a transcribed book of marriage records) A.J. ROOKS, age 20, born Georgia Isabel Rooks, age 20, born GA Jacob, age 1, born Georgia Here is what the 1860 census (again from a transcribed book) says for LAND families in the 1860 census in Carroll County, GA: next door to James Cook and Isabell (his wife) and family are: household 53 T.K. Lands, age 26, farmer, born SC Mary M. Lands, age 65, born SC next door: Betsy G. STORY, age 48, born SC Mary J. Story, age 22, born GA Rachel E. Story, age 14, born GA William J. Story, age 16, born GA John T. Story, age 12, born GA next door Rachel Land, age 86, born SC Rachel Land, age 69, idiot, born SC 1870 census for Carroll County, GA (from transcribed book) Carrollton Dist. household 1537 Rachael Lands, age 60, born SC Dilsey STORY, age 36, born SC John STORY, age 19, born GA household 1546 Andrew B. Doc Lands, age 37, born GA Charity Lands, age 33, born GA Rufus Lands, age 14, born GA Stephen Lands, age 10, born Alabama Andrew Lands, age 8, born GA Ann Lands, age 4, born GA Haney Lands, age 2, born GA Nancy Lands, age 2 months, born Nov., born GA next door Theor. Lands, age 35, born GA Terresia Lands, age 25, born Alabama Henry Lands, age 3, born GA William Lands, age 1, born GA Margaret Lands, age 74, born South Carolina Lou KINMAN, age 22, female, born Alabama Note: Isabell Cook was in Cleburne County, AL in the 1880 census, as were most of her children. Trying to determine which COOK family that her husband James M. Cook descended from. There appears to be several COOK families in Carroll County, GA at the same time that James M. Cook and Isabel lived there, and not sure if they are related to each other, or how, if so.

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Is there a Heritage Book of Carroll County?

Will of Jesse Warren State of Georgia, Carroll County Filed May 3, 1881 By R. L. Richards, Ordinary of said county; To all whom these presents shall come greeting; Know ye that on the 3rd day of May 1881 the last Will and Testament of Jesse Warren, late of said county, deceased, was exhibited in open Court and in common form admitted to record, a copy of which is hereto annexed, and administration of all and singular, the goods and chattels, rights and credits, lands and tenements of said deceased, was granted to Elisha Gentry, the Executor in and by said Will granted and appointed, they having first taken the oath, and performed all other requisites required by law and by order of said Ordinary by witness of these presents legally authorized to administer the goods and chattels, rights and credits, lands and tenements of said deceased according to the ?? and effect of said Will and Testament and according to Law; and are hereby required to render a true and perfect inventory of all and singular the goods and chattels, rights and credits, lands, tenements of said deceased. And appraisments returned to the Ordinary of their actions and doings yearly until such Administration is fully completed. Witness my hand and Seal of Office this 3rd day of May 1881. R.L. Richards, Ordinary

Estate of Benjamin Borders Georgia, Carroll County Filed August 6, 1860 By the ordinary of said County, Benjamin Borders, late of said county in which he died, having lately departed this life intestate, possessed of an estate of personal property, and Burrell Borders, of said county, having at a regular Term of said Court been vested with the Administration of the estate of the said Benjamin Borders, on condition of his giving bond and security according to the direction of the Court, and taking the usual oath of office, and said Burrell Borders having fully complied with the direction of the Court, this is to show that said Burrell Borders is fully empowered and required to do and perform all the duties of an Administrator according to law, all the estate of said Benjamin Borders; to ask, demand, sue for, recover and receive all Benjamin Borders' claims, to pay all his obligations so far as the estate will extend and the residue to pay out to the lawful heirs of said Benjamin Borders to make all proper returns, inventories, appraisements and whatever other duties such Administrator the law dev??? upon him. In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office this 6th day of August 1860. J. M. Blalock, Ordinary

Would love to hear from anyone who comes across any of our family information who lived in the Carroll County Georgia Area. Mitchell B. Umphress, wife: Martha Horton Umphress d/o Levi Horton Their children were: Martha Ann Emarintha Umphress Aldredge Nancy Araminta Umphress Artemissa Umphress John Richard Umphress Mitchell Arphaxad Umphress Seth Erastus Umphress Payton Patrick Smith Umphress William Matterson Umphress Francis Euphrates Umphress Thanks Joyce jgrubbs@svic.net

Sorry for the spelling error in original post should be CLAYTON not Clayron sorry Rita Knight

I am looking for anyone researching KNIGHT or CLAYTON in Carroll County Ga. I am looking for connections to WILLOUGHBY KNIGHT & ELIZABETH CLAYTON. Also looking for PRESLEY KNIGHT ,NANCY KNIGHT , PEGGY CLAYTON THOMAS CLAYTON. These people appear to all have been siblings who married siblings in 1830 Carroll County, GA . thanks Rita Knight

I just visited the Carroll County Genealogical Society page which lists their publications for sale... http://members.aol.com/carrollgen/index.htm (This includes deed abstracts and census records) They also have available for purchase 1990 onward of their Quarterly. Looking in PERSI, I've found LOTS of previous publications which listed some wonderful materials. I see dates going back to around 1980....(and perhaps earlier). Does anyone on this list have any of those older journals? They seem so prolific with their research data--including some cemetery and church histories, biographical sketches, newspaper abstracts (some as early as 1872)...tax lists!! The New Hope Primitive Baptist Church minutes (1829-1867) were even published (maybe just abstracted) in some of those issues around 1984-85. My library here in Waco, TX does not have any of them unfortunately. I don't know if the Neva Lomason Library would make copies or not. I may try through Inter-library loan for some of them.... Virginia

Thanks for the information, My GGG grandparents were married by Henry Hanes in 1841. It may be of help to know the background of the church. They also moved to Arkansas sometime after 1850. If you come across any information on any McCurdys, please keep me in mind. Thanks, Doug McCurdy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert A. Casper" <ccasper@wave-net.net> To: <GACARROL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 7:10 AM Subject: [GACARROL] New Hope Primitive Baptist Church > I have information on the New Hope Primitive Baptist Church which I will > look up and post here. It held its first meetings in my ggg grandfather's > home, Jonathan Haynes. Several of his brothers were Primitive Baptists > ministers. Previous to the founding of the New Hope Baptist Church in > Carroll County, they had founded New Providence Primitive Baptist Church in > Habersham County, GA. The Haynes family had just migrated from Haywood > County, NC. If you think your ancestors were part of this migration, I can > give you information on it. Jonathan Haynes stayed in Carroll County but his > brothers moved on to Arkansas and Texas. Jonathan was married to Cynthia > McDowell, daughter of Daniel McDowell who also migrated with this family. > Other families known to have come from NC to Habersham County and then on to > Carroll County were Kinney, Palmer, Owens, and maybe Ward. > > This comes from some work done on the Haynes family by William Edgar Haynes, > presently residing in California: > quote > "They (the Haynes brothers Henry, Jonathan, Edward and William), along with > others, came together to form the New Hope Primitive Baptist Church. Minutes > of the meetings are on file in the Genealogy Section, Carrollton, Georgia > Library. On September 24, 1830, Jonathan was appointed to a committee to > purchase land for a new meeting house. He was elected as a trustee and as a > brothers to assist in laying the new church's foundations on November 27, > 1830. According to the minutes, the committee did not get the job done and > some harsh (but polite) words were exchanged. The outcome was that the new > church, named New Hope, was built east of the town that is now known as > Villa Rica, Georgia, near the present-day Atlanta Highway US-78, and the old > Pumpkintown Road crossing. The church was still active in 1996. The church > must not have been completed by February 1, 1834, because church services > were held at Jonathan's home. This was the last entry of Jonathan's name in > the church meeting minutes." > end quote > > Since the church was still active in 1996, it might still be active today. A > search for an address and telephone number on the internet might be helpful > and you could talk with the church. They may have a published history being > such an old church. > > You could also contact the Nova Lomason Library and leave a message for the > genealogy department to see if they would send you copies of the minutes for > particular years, etc. The genealogy department is not open all the time so > it might take a while to get a response but I bet they would help you. When > I visited the library, they were wonderful and very helpful. > > Cathy M. Casper > Sanford, NC > > >

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