I have a copy of Cemetery Records of Burke County. and yes there are some Census records on line. Can't remember just where but they are out there. Hopefully someone will have that info for you. Judy Rountree mason 2jv@bellsouth.net -----Original Message----- From: Pathoscafe@aol.com <Pathoscafe@aol.com> To: GABURKE-L@rootsweb.com <GABURKE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, November 29, 1999 3:46 PM Subject: census 1830-1850 >Hi all, > >Can anyone tell me if the census records for Burke Co are online anywhere? >I've been unable to find them. > >Does anyone in this group have access to birth, marriage, land records for >Burke Co? > >Appreciate any assistance. >Cyndi in Baltimore > > >==== GABURKE Mailing List ==== >Remember to search the archives for your names at rootsweb. > > >

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Pat, Those were Headright and Bounty Grants.Mills received 10 acres in 1806, and 20 in 1807. This is what he requested. There is also a West Woodard who received 58 acres in 1806, and Jushua, 310 acres in 1834. Mills and West Wood ward are listed on the 1805 Land Lottery register, and would have had to be a resident from at least 1802 to qualify. I can find no Woodard/Woodwards on the 1798 tax digest.Winners on the 1820 land lottery are Jemimah Woodward (won land in Appling Co.), Barnes Woodward (Appling), and Lemuel Woodard (Early Co.). There are no further listings for Mills. I have a Mary Hillis who married a Woodward and moved to S.C. I found this in an old church member register for 1854, andf there is a James Woodward (24), wife Mary A. (21), children William J F(2) and Welcome Y (3 mo) on 1850 census. Any relation? I also looked under English Crown Grants, and found nothing. Sheryl

Pathoscafe@aol.com wrote: > Hi all, > > Can anyone tell me if the census records for Burke Co are online anywhere? > I've been unable to find them. > > Does anyone in this group have access to birth, marriage, land records for > Burke Co? > > Appreciate any assistance. > Cyndi in Baltimore > > ==== GABURKE Mailing List ==== > Remember to search the archives for your names at rootsweb. The "Burke County" web site( http://members.aol.com/J2525/index.html ) has the old Burke County Marriage index listed. Be sure to also check out the Genealogy Society web page for some very worthwhile information. Jo

Cyndi, I have census records from 1820 to 1850, a few marriage records for only a few surnames, and land lottery, and land grant records from 1755. Just send the names you are looking for and I will get back to you asap. Sheryl

Barbara, I don't possess any specialized knowledge for tracing slaves, but I'll send you what I can find. If you live within driving distance of the Ga. State Archives, it's well worth the trip. They have people there who are knowledgable, have the resources on hand and are more than willing to help point you in the right direction. I do know that from 1870 onwards all black people were included in the Federal censuses, but before that , they were listed by sex, age and color(b=black,m=mulatto) on the slave schedules and some censuses.On the 1850 mortality schedule, even slaves were listed by fist name and with the owners name.On the Slave schedule: George W. Hurst , 1 mb 3; 3 mb 16; 1 mb 19; 1 mb 21; 1 mb (?) 21; 1 mb 26; 2 mb 28; 1 mb 30; 1 mb 32; 1 mb 35; 1 mb 50; 1 fb 1. Charles B. HUrst, 1 mb 8, 1 mb 38. Elizabeth Hurst, 1 fb 18, 1 fb 22, 1 fb 60 Willis S. Hurst, 1 mb 3; 1 mb 4; 1 mb 11, 1 mb 14; 1 mb 16; 1 mb 55; 1 mb 70; 1 fb 2; 1 fb 8; 1 fb 13; 1 fb 53. Here you can cross-check your ancestors age to see if it matches up with one of the above. 1850 Mortality schedule: Charles B. Hurst's Rebecca, age 22, female, black, slave, born in Ga., Died in Nov. (1849), who was a field hand, was burnt, number of days ill-sudden. This is the only Hust-black or white on the schedule. Wish I could be more help. Maybe some of the other listers have had the same problems and could give you some tips. Sheryl

Fran, According to two sources, John S. Royal b 27 Jan 1784, d 12 Dec 1816 m 1st 5 Sep 1811 Harriet Godbee b 1785, d 6 Feb 1829. He m Civility Carter 13 Aug 1829. One source does not show parents of John S., and the other lists his father as John Royal Sr. b 1731 d before 1774--that would make John S. born 10 years after his father's death!!! So take this with a grain of salt.You can download this entire family history at <A HREF="http://www.lamar.k12.ga.us/royal/">Genealogy - Sailing Through Time</A> . but beware, there are mistakes as data came from more than one person. Corrections are welcomed. Sheryl

This is a concern for socialists (liberals) and sociologists, not genealogists. One might also be concerned about how and why they benefitted from Alexanders conquest or the conquests of the Roman Empire, but we aren't. Jason E. Gray - alphajg@erols.com ========================================================= barnesandnoble.com Homepage http://bn.bfast.com/bfast/click/mid1349732?siteid=6962700&bfpage=h ----- Original Message ----- From: Gene Lewis <gene.lewis@mindspring.com> To: <GABURKE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 2:53 PM Subject: RE: Burke Co. Land Lotteries 1803 > I'm sure you have no responsibility for anything you did not do > personally..... > but i wonder if you have thought about the benefits that accrued to you > because you just happen to belong to the group who won, conquered, or > othewise gained > > It's easy to have no consious > > ============ > At 10:26 PM 11/27/99 -0600, you wrote: > >"I was told that if you killed any Indians/Native Americans that resided on > >the land that you could have it but that it was not true in all cases. Is > >this true? > >V. Jenkins > > > >Answer: > >No. It just sounds politically correct. > > > >The land lottery was an act of Congress. Stop and think about it. "I > >propose a bill that would give land to people who kill any native Americans > >on it." I don't think so. For Revolutionery war service against the > >British in the fight for independence . . . I think so. > > > >We don't have to rely on "someone who says" or "I was told." The laws > >proposed and passed in the United States are a matter of public record. Try > >the Library of Congress Web site, and search for Land Lottery. > > > >Everyone has been dumped on: > >Vikings, Romans, and others invaded England, changed the customs and > >religeon, took the land, property, and women. Today Japan has posession of > >Olympic medals won by Koreans after the Japanese invaded and occupied Korea. > >They say that since they occupied Korea at the time, the medals belong to > >the Japanese. > > > >Christians lost to the Muslims the place where they believe Christ was born > >and crucified. The Jews had lost their country until 1945 when it was more > >or less re-created out of other countries in North Africa. > > > >My family farm, and many others, were taken by the government in 1939 to > >build Ft. Stewart Army Post. My grandmother, whose husband had just died, > >had to move off, got nothing for the crops in the field, and waited eleven > >months for the government to send the check. Another grandfather's > >stepmother cut him out of the will. My father died when I was seven. So > >what.\ > > > >I don't know of anyone, or any ancestry, who hasn't been dumped on. A > >person can use it as an excuse or get on with life. You can bet your > >tuschnakoyatah I don't have any complexes about anything that happened 100 > >or more years before I was born. A person can drag it through their life if > >they want to. As for me, I'm free at last, free at last -- thank God > >almighty I'm free at last. I didn't rip off a continent from the natives, > >and I didn't enslave a race of people either. > > > >You see, my wife and I don't vote the same, and my kids don't always listen. > >If I were influential enough to do all the stuff I'm supposed to be ashamed > >of, I would have just had a lot more sex and money instead. > > > >Brigham Knight > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: tuschnakoyatah [mailto:tuschnakoyatah@email.msn.com] > >Sent: Friday, November 26, 1999 8:37 PM > >To: GABURKE-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Burke Co. Land Lotteries 1803 > > > > > >What exactly was the land lottery? I was told that if you killed any > >Indians/Native Americans that resided on the land that you could have it but > >that it was not true in all cases. Is this true? > > > >V. Jenkins > > > > > > > >==== GABURKE Mailing List ==== > >NO SPAMMING > > > > > > > > > > > >==== GABURKE Mailing List ==== > >http://members.aol.com/J2525/jeff.htm > >Jefferson County GenWeb Page > > > > > ==== GABURKE Mailing List ==== > http://members.aol.com/J2525/gen.htm > Burke County Genealogical Society > >

I'm sure you have no responsibility for anything you did not do personally..... but i wonder if you have thought about the benefits that accrued to you because you just happen to belong to the group who won, conquered, or othewise gained It's easy to have no consious ============ At 10:26 PM 11/27/99 -0600, you wrote: >"I was told that if you killed any Indians/Native Americans that resided on >the land that you could have it but that it was not true in all cases. Is >this true? >V. Jenkins > >Answer: >No. It just sounds politically correct. > >The land lottery was an act of Congress. Stop and think about it. "I >propose a bill that would give land to people who kill any native Americans >on it." I don't think so. For Revolutionery war service against the >British in the fight for independence . . . I think so. > >We don't have to rely on "someone who says" or "I was told." The laws >proposed and passed in the United States are a matter of public record. Try >the Library of Congress Web site, and search for Land Lottery. > >Everyone has been dumped on: >Vikings, Romans, and others invaded England, changed the customs and >religeon, took the land, property, and women. Today Japan has posession of >Olympic medals won by Koreans after the Japanese invaded and occupied Korea. >They say that since they occupied Korea at the time, the medals belong to >the Japanese. > >Christians lost to the Muslims the place where they believe Christ was born >and crucified. The Jews had lost their country until 1945 when it was more >or less re-created out of other countries in North Africa. > >My family farm, and many others, were taken by the government in 1939 to >build Ft. Stewart Army Post. My grandmother, whose husband had just died, >had to move off, got nothing for the crops in the field, and waited eleven >months for the government to send the check. Another grandfather's >stepmother cut him out of the will. My father died when I was seven. So >what.\ > >I don't know of anyone, or any ancestry, who hasn't been dumped on. A >person can use it as an excuse or get on with life. You can bet your >tuschnakoyatah I don't have any complexes about anything that happened 100 >or more years before I was born. A person can drag it through their life if >they want to. As for me, I'm free at last, free at last -- thank God >almighty I'm free at last. I didn't rip off a continent from the natives, >and I didn't enslave a race of people either. > >You see, my wife and I don't vote the same, and my kids don't always listen. >If I were influential enough to do all the stuff I'm supposed to be ashamed >of, I would have just had a lot more sex and money instead. > >Brigham Knight > > >-----Original Message----- >From: tuschnakoyatah [mailto:tuschnakoyatah@email.msn.com] >Sent: Friday, November 26, 1999 8:37 PM >To: GABURKE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Burke Co. Land Lotteries 1803 > > >What exactly was the land lottery? I was told that if you killed any >Indians/Native Americans that resided on the land that you could have it but >that it was not true in all cases. Is this true? > >V. Jenkins > > > >==== GABURKE Mailing List ==== >NO SPAMMING > > > > > >==== GABURKE Mailing List ==== >http://members.aol.com/J2525/jeff.htm >Jefferson County GenWeb Page >

Hi all, Can anyone tell me if the census records for Burke Co are online anywhere? I've been unable to find them. Does anyone in this group have access to birth, marriage, land records for Burke Co? Appreciate any assistance. Cyndi in Baltimore

In a message dated 11/29/99 12:48:43 PM Mountain Standard Time, GABURKE-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > From what states did you fight from to get a grant? I am seeking info on > my 4th great grandfather, Mills Woodard, who , He recieved 10 acres in 1806, > and 7 in 1807....both grants in Burke County... These grants are different from the land lotteries. These lookup like they may have been Headright grants, which were of all different sizes. If you were a head of household you qualified for 50 acres, and another 50 acres for everyone in your household (including slaves). People asked for varying amounts of acreage -- you had to improve your land within a specified time, so many didn't ask for their full qualification. The State of Georgia gave Bounty land to soldiers and citizens of the state during the Revolution. You had to be a soldier in a GA unit to qualify. Citizens who stayed in residence and did not help the British cause also qualified for Bounty lands. Hope that helps, Nancy Mann

Pat, I apparently blew it. There were land grants for Revolutionery War service. These, however, are unrelated to the land grants under discussion. See the message from ngmann@aol.com. If I can turn up the information you asked for, I will pass it along. -----Original Message----- From: Havener [mailto:phavener@javanet.com] Sent: Sunday, November 28, 1999 8:03 PM To: GABURKE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Burke Co. Land Lotteries 1803 Hi, I also need some education. You wrote: The land lottery was an act of Congress. For Revolutionery war service against the British in the fight for independence . . >From what states did you fight from to get a grant? I am seeking info on my 4th great grandfather, Mills Woodard, who , He recieved 10 acres in 1806, and 7 in 1807....both grants in Burke County... I know he was around in 1804. He was the executor of the estate of Elizabeth Odam, who died in 1804. (Widow of Joshua Odam). Thanks Pat ==== GABURKE Mailing List ==== Listowner: marge Braswell M55442@aol.com http://members.aol.com/M55442/index.html

Hi, would you have any information on Slaves from Burke County, or could you tell me how I could obtain this information? In particular, I am interested in the small town of Munnerlyn, which as I understand it was also called Lumpkins Station, Thomas Station and Perkins. My husbands family was born in Munnerlyn as was my husband. His family name is Hurst. Thanking you in advance for any information. Barbara

>From Brigham Knight: Drove 525 miles Saturday returning from mom's. Booted my computer, and downloaded a virus. The virus seems to have started working my "address book." I am truly sorry that this virus reached some of my genealogy friends via my computer (eventhough it was just passing through). I'm not sure whom I got it from. I had 4 days of messages. On recieving word from a cyber friend that I sent him an infected message, and knowing that I hadn't mailed anything to him, I immediately re-booted so the virus program would run. In my haste to exit I sent (by default)to the BC list my outpouring "We've all been dumped on" speech. It felt good to write it, but I probably would not have sent it had it not mailed when I re-booted. I had become pre-occupied with the virus. I don't think the list is a very appropriate forum for such as that. To that extent I appologize. I have appreciated your comments which so far have been supportive. I hope that V. Jenkins keeps the questions coming, and if I feel I have something to say on the subject I'll try to be on target genealogically. Brigham Knight

Hi, I also need some education. You wrote: The land lottery was an act of Congress. For Revolutionery war service against the British in the fight for independence . . >From what states did you fight from to get a grant? I am seeking info on my 4th great grandfather, Mills Woodard, who , He recieved 10 acres in 1806, and 7 in 1807....both grants in Burke County... I know he was around in 1804. He was the executor of the estate of Elizabeth Odam, who died in 1804. (Widow of Joshua Odam). Thanks Pat

In a message dated 11/28/99 3:42:22 PM Mountain Standard Time, GABURKE-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > What exactly was the land lottery? Actually, the State of Georgia passed several Land Lottery Acts - this had nothing to do with the Federal government. The Lotteries were meant to encourage settlement of new lands acquired (by fair means or foul) from the Indians. Lotteries were held in 1805, 1807, 1820, 1821, 1827, 1832, and another in 1832. The Lotteries each had different requirements for entry (i.e., a family got 2 draws, bachelors got one, widow and orphans had provisions, soldiers eventually got extra draws). Registration also had a provision of Georgia residency, usually three years prior to registering -- this can be quite helpful in timing the moves of your family. All the lotteries lists have been published. But be careful when you use the Land Lottery books -- some list all registrants, others list only the winners. Winners could purchase the lot that they won, usually 202 1/2 acres, for small monetary amounts ($10-$20), but often sold the lot to a speculator because they didn't want to move onto the frontier of the settlement. The Land Lottery lists are a very useful resource. Good luck in your searches! Nancy Mann

First and foremost let me say thank you for your opinion and it is just that... your opinion. I did not send my post in to be flamed and how incredibly tacky of you to do so. For you to poke fun at the name I was given shows your ignorance and lack of respect. I have in fact heard from many other people who in an honest way told me what I needed to know and to those who helped I thank you. As for you Brigham Knight, it must suck to be a bitter old fart. And as for the rest of your argument, it contradicts itself. You RELY on the government for accurate information AFTER they took your families farm and said the checks in the mail? I'll remember to wave at you when the world changes. Smiling as I write, Vrtreena Jenkins

Was Civility Carter the same woman who married John S. Royal?

I agree with both of you!

I am with you Brigham! 2jv@bellsouth.net