Can anyone tell me where to find the oaths of allegiance that were signed following the Civil War? Thanks in advance for any help. RoseMary

Our John Palmer elusive:  Believed to have been born around 1792 and is unclear as to where.  No death date, but believe to have died after 1840.  On a census, one time you will see born in GA, another will say born in SC or NC. Searched all three states including VA, posted on many boards and NOTHING. John Palmer believed to be married to Nancy unknown also believe to have been born in GA, SC, or NC.  Could possibly have been married to Hannah or Ann or mother of  John Palmer.  John is thought to be in Georgia unknown county until about 1820.  The only thing I do know is they were in Georgia until 1819 as in 1820 they turn up in WC, AL where migrated to Washington County, Alabama.  1830 WC AL census indicates ages of children could be accurate. All children were born in Georgia with exception of one.  However,  years of search has turned up nothing on this family other than the Alabama information. Children of John Palmer (not proven) Thomas Palmer born  abt 1810 GA  about  m Elisabeth (nee unknown) b abt 1810 GA and was in Mississippi county unknown until 1860 census; then WC AL Two children born in MS, two in AL No info turned up in MS Christopher Palmer  1847 MS Martin Palmer         1857 AL Elisabeth Palmer    1851 MS Angelina Palmer     1858 AL Lominia Palmer b abt 1810 GA m Joseph Conn 1854 WC AL - have not found on a census Mary Palmer  b abt 1811 GA  m Merriman Joiner 12/16/1830; Joiner m in 1840 to Rachel Jones b MS (Mary believed to be deceased at that time) Budley Palmer b abt 1813  GA   No indication of having been married Ann Margery Palmer b abt 1815 GA m Fredrick Koen b AL m 02/19/1834 and have 8 children all bn AL William Washington Palmer b 1819 GA m Mary Elizabeth Koen 01/06/1845 WC AL with 10 children Louisa C Palmer b abt 1832 AL m Solomon Cribbs 02/17/1860 in Perry County, AL No info other than marriage date This family ties in with Grimes/Palmer/Smith/Thompson/Knight/Koen/Blount/Granade/Atchison/Dumas/Goldman /Beach/Beech/Mixon/Moseley/Everett/Buckaloo/Buckalew/ Loper/Phillips/PLUS MANY MORE. Could sure use some help with the prior GA or other state info.  This family has to tie in with some Palmers' somewhere!! William Washington Palmer and Ann Margery Palmer well documented by family members, however, no documentation on others in this family that is proven. Have some info that can tie in.  Location of death cannot be determined on anyone other than William and Ann Margery from this family.  No birth/death certificates available. Any help appreciated. M Palmer

Hi... I was wondering if anyone knew when Robert N. Chism (1861 - 1916) and Martha Hodges (1870-1927) married? I know they were both born in Charlton Co, GA and died there.....I looked on Charlton Co, Ga's info on marriages and did not fins anything...so any help would be appreciated....thank you... Stephanie Grohol

FIND-A-GRAVE.COM is a great site. I wish more folks would enter their family cemetery information. It is a wonderful site to find genealogy information. For you can write a biography about that person as long as you want it to be, giving background information of person, the parents / childrens names and dates, etc. You can even add pictures. ----Original Message Follows---- From: "A-T-K's Grannie" <gnw@rose.net> Reply-To: GA-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com To: GA-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [GA-Roots] Fw: Find-a-Grave Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 10:10:39 -0500 I use the same password on Find-a-grave and all other memberships. That solves my problem with that. But, Spam cannot be avoided if you are on the internet at all. I receive a lot Spam simply because I have cemetery transcriptions and queries on Rootsweb etc. Spammers will take it from anywhere they find it. Put your email address in www.google.com see how many times it comes up, if at all. Mine comes up many many times all genealogy related. Winnette --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.634 / Virus Database: 406 - Release Date: 03/18/2004 ==== GA-ROOTS Mailing List ==== Faye Dyess fdy@comcast.net Listmanager Thou shalt not rely on the privacy of e-mail, especially from work. GA Volunteer lookups:http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ga/state/volunteer.html _________________________________________________________________ Find a broadband plan that fits. Great local deals on high-speed Internet access. http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200360ave/direct/01/

Maybe road conditions had something to do with it. My own g-grandmother died in Morgan County and was buried there because they could not get her back to Lumpkin County because of the roads. Her husband is buried in Lumpkin County. She was visiting a daughter and died while in Morgan.

I use the same password on Find-a-grave and all other memberships. That solves my problem with that. But, Spam cannot be avoided if you are on the internet at all. I receive a lot Spam simply because I have cemetery transcriptions and queries on Rootsweb etc. Spammers will take it from anywhere they find it. Put your email address in www.google.com see how many times it comes up, if at all. Mine comes up many many times all genealogy related. Winnette --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.634 / Virus Database: 406 - Release Date: 03/18/2004

Contrary to the myths, very few spammer’s lists are obtained from “membership” in reliable sites. Most are generated by computer programs. However before signing up on any website check their privacy policy and if they do sell lists don’t “join”. I have been a member of findagrave for many years using a unique identifier and have not received the first spam from this membership. Though findagrave I’ve had several emails from relatives I’ve never known before and been able to share much genealogical info which I otherwise would not have had. Findagrave is fully searchable by name, state, cemetery and other parameters, something I haven’t found on any other site. Also pictures can be posted with a listing, something else I haven’t found on any other site. As far as passwords go, I use only four, two of which are stored in my computer for automatic access and two of which only I know. Two are needed in each category because of the different password requirements of different sites. To me cookies are a FAR greater privacy threat. I have my browser set not to accept any cookie without first asking me and to not accept ANY third party cookie nor any cookie from a site without a privacy policy. If a site requires a cookie to visit, I just don’t visit. Many cookies not only transmit your address back to the originator but are also “spies” transmitting all your “surfing” back to the originator. Please pardon me for being a bit off subject, this is offered only in respective rebuttal to a comment about what I consider to be an excellent genealogical site. Gerald Gieger wrote: > I have a problem because you have to 'join' before you can access the > data...I don't want my e-mail address on any more SPAM listings. > besides this Password thing has gotten all out of hand, and I can't > remember which is which... > > If you have something you want to share, just put it up so folks can > get it with the least amount of trouble... > > >> From: "The Smith Family" <barben@gnat.net> >> Reply-To: "The Smith Family" <barben@gnat.net> >> To: GA-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [GA-Roots] Fw: [GABULLOC] Find-a-Grave >> Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 02:01:03 -0600 >> >> >> >> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> Check out the online virtual cemetery at the Find-a-Grave site at: >> >> >> >> http://www.findagrave.com/. >> >> >> >> It's a great help in doing genealogy. >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ============================== >> Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >> > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >> > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >> > >> >> >> ==== GA-ROOTS Mailing List ==== >> Faye Dyess fdy@comcast.net Listmanager >> Thou shalt read thine own message thrice before thou sendest it. >> GA Volunteer lookups:http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ga/state/volunteer.html >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > Check out MSN PC Safety & Security to help ensure your PC is protected > and safe. http://specials.msn.com/msn/security.asp > > > ==== GA-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Faye Dyess fdy@comcast.net Listmanager > Thou shalt not forward any chain letter, (unless it's funny or deals > with genealogy). > AGE AND TREACHERY WILL ALWAYS OVERCOME YOUTH AND SKILL > >

What is this about? Just saw part of a post but didn't understand as it wasn't in full. Thanks Mary

> > > > > > >was asked to send it to members of the genealogy > > >community to insure that someone knew about the details and the changes >to > > >the > > >current cemtery law. If anyone is going to comment on it, they need to >do > > >so > > >ASAP to their legislator, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >You can call and discuss it, or just send some comments. The one thing > > >noted, > > >no permit is required, and the data is to be kept only for TEN Yrs. >Seems > > >like > > >the Archives ought to be the place material was at least recorded in if > > >they > > >are going to do any kind of report. > > > > > >Also note the two graves limit, what happens if only one grave is > > >found/known? > > > > > >anyway, don't delay, as time is ticking. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >House Bill 1645 > > >By: Representatives Bannister of the 70th, Post 1, Cooper of the 30th, > > >Murphy of > > >the 14th, Post 2, and Knox of the 14th, Post 1 > > > > > >A BILL TO BE ENTITLED AN ACT > > > > > >To amend Chapter 72 of Title 36 of the Official Code of Georgia >Annotated, > > >relating to abandoned cemeteries and burial grounds, so as to provide >for > > >procedures for the removal of isolated abandoned burial plots over 100 > > >years > > >in > > >age; to define a certain term; to provide for an archeological survey; >to > > >provide for a genealogical search for heirs; to provide for notice to >all > > >known > > >heirs of the deceased; to provide for the removal of remains and burial > > >objects; > > >to provide for records of the removal; to provide for the transfer of >such > > >records to subsequent purchasers of the property; to provide for >matters > > >relative to the foregoing; to repeal conflicting laws; and for other > > >purposes. > > > > > > > > >BE IT ENACTED BY THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF GEORGIA: > > > > > >SECTION 1. > > > > > >Chapter 72 of Title 36 of the Official Code of Georgia Annotated, >relating > > >to > > >abandoned cemeteries and burial grounds, is amended by inserting at the >end > > >thereof the following: > > >"36-72-17. > > >(a) As used in this Code section, the term 'abandoned isolated burial >plot' > > >means a burial plot containing not more than two interments over 100 >years > > >in > > >age located on private property isolated from any cemetery or burial >ground > > >and > > >with no signs of recent upkeep as a recognized burial plot. > > >(b) Notwithstanding any other provision of this chapter to the >contrary, > > >the > > >owner of property upon which an abandoned isolated burial plot is >located > > >may > > >remove the same by complying with the provisions of this Code section. > > >(c) Any property owner wishing to remove an abandoned isolated burial >plot > > >shall > > >have the area surveyed by an archeologist. If the archeologist >certifies > > >that > > >the burial plot contains no more than two interments and is over 100 >years > > >in > > >age, the property owner shall engage a genealogist to locate all living > > >heirs of > > >the persons interred in the plot. The property owner shall notify each > > >living > > >heir so identified of the discovery of the plot and of his or her >intention > > >to > > >remove the remains. Such notice shall include the proposed location of >the > > >new > > >burial site and the approximate date of the removal, which shall be not > > >sooner > > >than 30 days following the time the notice was received, and the right >of > > >the > > >heirs to object to the removal and the address to which the objection >must > > >be > > >addressed. If a majority of the heirs consent to the removal in >writing, > > >the > > >removal may take place at any time. If, 30 days after the date upon >which > > >all > > >heirs have received the notice, a majority of the heirs have not >objected > > >to > > >the > > >removal, the removal may take place as provided in subsection (d) of >this > > >Code > > >section. If the genealogist certifies that there are no living heirs, >or > > >that no > > >living heirs can be found after reasonable diligence has been made, the > > >removal > > >make take place as provided in subsection (d) of this Code section. > > >(d) The removal of remains from an abandoned isolated burial plot > > >authorized > > >by > > >this Code section shall be accomplished at the expense of the owner of >the > > >property upon which the plot is located. The remains may be removed >only >by > > >an > > >archeologist and only to an established cemetery. All burial objects >shall > > >accompany the remains. If the accompanying burial objects do not > > >sufficiently > > >identify the deceased, a new marker shall be erected providing, if >known, > > >the > > >name of the deceased, the dates of birth and death, the fact of the > > >removal, > > >and > > >the date of the removal. > > >(e) A person accomplishing the removal of an abandoned isolated burial >plot > > >under this Code section shall maintain all required documentation for >at > > >least > > >ten years and shall transfer such documentation with complete >disclosure >to > > >a > > >subsequent purchaser of the property. Each subsequent owner of such > > >property > > >shall transfer such documentation with complete disclosure to each > > >subsequent > > >purchaser of the property until ten years have elapsed after the time >of > > >the > > >removal." > > > > > > > > >SECTION 2. > > > > > >All laws and parts of laws in conflict with this Act are repealed. > > > > > > > > >==== GEORGIA Mailing List ==== > > >If you wish to unsubscribe from the Georgia list, send only the word > > >UNSUBSCRIBE to GEORGIA-l-request@rootsweb.com or if you are on the >Digest > > >List to GEORGIA-d-request@rootsweb.com > > > > > >============================== > > >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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I have a problem because you have to 'join' before you can access the data...I don't want my e-mail address on any more SPAM listings. besides this Password thing has gotten all out of hand, and I can't remember which is which... If you have something you want to share, just put it up so folks can get it with the least amount of trouble... >From: "The Smith Family" <barben@gnat.net> >Reply-To: "The Smith Family" <barben@gnat.net> >To: GA-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [GA-Roots] Fw: [GABULLOC] Find-a-Grave >Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 02:01:03 -0600 > > > > > > Hi, > > > > Check out the online virtual cemetery at the Find-a-Grave site at: > > > > http://www.findagrave.com/. > > > > It's a great help in doing genealogy. > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > >==== GA-ROOTS Mailing List ==== >Faye Dyess fdy@comcast.net Listmanager >Thou shalt read thine own message thrice before thou sendest it. >GA Volunteer lookups:http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ga/state/volunteer.html > _________________________________________________________________ Check out MSN PC Safety & Security to help ensure your PC is protected and safe. http://specials.msn.com/msn/security.asp

I was going through some letters that my cousin had sent me over the past few years and found a copy of my great grandmother's obituary in what I thought to be an empty envelope. How I missed it before I'll never know, but it is full of family history and I wanted to share. Carol Carmichael Flora Eugene (VINCENT) WALTERS Obituary Unknown Newspaper -- rec'd from Betty Ann (Crotwell) Allred 21 Aug 2001 The subject of this sketch, Flora Eugene WALTERS was born Feb. 15 1850, and died Nov. 16 1897 with cancere of the stomach and dropsy. She was the daughter of James D. VINCENT and Ludinda A. VINCENT. Her dear father died on his way to California March 19th 1825 (sic) [should read 1852] and in nove 1852 her mother also died leaving her and her younger sister Lou J. VINCENT to be raised by their grandmother Mrs. Susan VINCENT, who brought them up in the best way possible. She was married to W. H. H. WALTERS July 9th 1865, and from the union there are nine living children -- four girls and five boys all grown bur four, the youngest being eight years old. She joined the Baptist church at Wofford's Cross Roads, and was baptized July 3d. 1865 by Rev. P. E. Hawkins and ever lived a true Christian life. She was sick about a year and ever bore her suffering as one of God'd children. She was attended by four of the best physicians but her time had come and none could save the life so precious to her family and her friends. She often talked of loved ones gone and rejoiced to meet them in the skies, and be with them again in a better world where all tears are gone and parting is no more. In the evening before she died she called all of her children and several friends to her side and taking her husband by the hand asked him to meet her in Heaven and take good care of the children while he lived, and then she took each child by the hand and asked each one to meet her in Heaven, which each one promised to do. And oh, God may their pledges never be forgotten. She then called her friends, who had been so kind to her to do anything they could for her, and asked them also to meet her in Heaven, and then sent for others who were absent and told them she was going to die and this would be the last time on earth they would ever see her, and after receiving these promises to meet her in a better world she seemed easy and knew each one within a few minutes of death. At eight o'clock in the evening, on Nov. 16th 1897 this blessed spirit took its flight to meet three little boys who were already called to Christ who said: "Suffer little children to come unto me and forbid them not for such is the kingdom of Heaven. Her dear old grandmother Susan A. VINCENT died March 31st 1877, and was laid to rest at Pine Log in Bartow county, Georgia, among a large concourse of friends and relatives to await the resurrection morn. At her request, on the spot she selected she was laid to rest near her only sister, Mrs. Lou WARD at Wofford's Cross Roads in Bartow county, Ga., near her birthplace and the home of her childhood days, in the presence of many relatives and friends there to await the resurrection morn. Oh, may we all live so as when we are called to die that we may die in a full triumph of faith in Christ, our blessed Savior and be with our dear wife, Flora forever and ever. If from our side our wife is gone, And home be but a name; Let's strive the narrow path to tread That we the last may gain Note: It seems that the poem is incomplete, but that is the end of the copy sent to me.

Hi, Check out the online virtual cemetery at the Find-a-Grave site at: http://www.findagrave.com/. It's a great help in doing genealogy. Thanks ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

The Bartow County Genealogical Society in Cartersville Georgia will has the following upcoming events for April and May: Classes are open to the public. April 2 (Friday) Confederate Night - 7-9:30 PM; instructor Michael Bryson, President of the Society and Reenactor; Michael will discuss unpublished diaries and their use in connecting family history and also Reenactments; $5 each April 17(Saturday) Childrens Genealogy, ages 8-16; 9-11:30 AM- Instructors Jean Belew and Mildred Starkebaum; Mom and Dad can shop while the children learn how to hunt for ancestors $5 each April 23 (Friday) Black History Night- 7-9:30 PM; Jean Belew instructor; Slave Schedules for Ga. and other resources will be used; $5 each April 30 (Friday) Sitting with the Silent Ancestors; 7-9:30 PM; Jean Belew will explain how to locate illusive ancestors $5 each May 7( Friday) 1832 Gold and Regular Land Lottery Night; 7-9:30 PM- instructor Jean Belew will explain the difference and you can see if some of the winners were your families $5 each May 14 (Friday) Cherokee Indian Heritage Night; Learn more about Cherokee Heritage as taught by Jean Belew who has Cherokee heritage and grew up in Oklahoma with the Cherokee The fees will pay for supplies. These are introductory prices. For information on all classes except Confederate Night, contact Jean Belew at 770-382-6676 and for Confederate Night, contact Mike Bryson at 770-386-2241 or 770-655-3240 Space is limited so please call and reserve your space. All classes will be held at the Family Research Library located at 9 South Gilmer Street in Cartersville, Georgia Telephone: 770-606-0706 We are 1/2 block off Main Street at Gilmer going North; the only building with 2 white columns on the outside.

Yes there were traveling prechers, They use to travel in the summer to preform marrages, funerals and preach the word of God. In many of the area's of the west there was too few people to support a full time preacher. And in others the Minister Welcomed the new voice in the pulpit. I remember hearing them in the 30's in Texas. Joepete On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 14:50:44 EST CannadyGal1@aol.com writes: > > I've heard of "traveling judges" but maybe they had a > traveling preacher. Could they have possibly waited til > relatives come be there? > Very interesting. > claudia > > > ==== GA-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Faye Dyess fdy@comcast.net Listmanager > Thou shalt not use e-mail for any illegal or unethical purpose. > GA Volunteer > lookups:http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ga/state/volunteer.html > > >

This notice might be of interest to anyone who researches in TX. >From: Rob G Yoder <rgyoder@juno.com> >To: TX-FWGS-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [TX-FWGS] Northeast Tarrant County Civil War soldiers...both >armies >Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 14:58:18 -0600 > >Forwarded message: > >We are erecting a Civil War veterans memorial for all soldiers who lived, >owned land, or are buried within four miles of Pleasant Run Baptist >Church in Colleyville. This will include parts of Colleyville, Grapevine, >Euless, Bedford, Hurst, North Richland Hills, Keller, and Southlake. >Cemeteries of White's Chapel, Smithfield, Parker Memorial, Spring Garden, >Riley, and Witten. If you know of veterans of either army who lived in >this area, please email me. As of March 15, we have 108 confirmed names >and many others for whom we're searching for proof. > >Mike Patterson, Colleyville, Texas >mfpchat@yahoo.com > > _________________________________________________________________ Get rid of annoying pop-up ads with the new MSN Toolbar – FREE! http://clk.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200414ave/direct/01/

When a person died, they did not embalm, so they were buried in a short time, perhaps the same or next day...They would bury them and have someone speak a prayer of some sort then cover them up...When the preacher, who was not always available due to distance, came by, they would have what we call a Memorial service...this was more frequent than you might eimagine in our 'modern' times...It was sometimes referred to as Funeral...sort of like when a person is lost at sea, or in some tragic occurrence like the WTC, wherein they cannot locate the body, but have a memorial service... This is not a custom limited to GA...Most Civil War Battlefield deaths were conducted that way...At Shiloh, they dug 'burial trenches' and covered them up in a 'mass grave.' >From: PATG31@aol.com >Reply-To: GA-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com >To: GA-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [GA-Roots] Questions on Georgia customs >Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 14:41:52 EST > >A cousin recently mailed me a copy of a page from a family Bible. Something >puzzled me and I was wondering if any of you could shed any light on the >mystery. > >The date of birth and death is listed for the man and the woman. Then it >tells the date that their funeral was preached. The date for the man's was >almost >9 months after his death and the woman's was listed as 6 months after her >death. Is this some sort of mistake or was that possible? How could it be? >Why? > >The person who recorded all this information seemed to have recorded it >carefully even giving the names of the preachers who preached the funerals >as well >as chapters and verses of the Bible from which the text was taken. > >Any help appreciated. > >Pat > > >==== GA-ROOTS Mailing List ==== >Faye Dyess fdy@comcast.net Listmanager >Thou shalt not curse, flame, spam or USE ALL CAPS. >Researching the following families: Arnold, Alsobrook, Benton, Booth, >Bradwell, Colson, Curles, Dailey, Davis, Dyess, Etheridge, Fort, >Fuller, Gregory, Hodge, Hooks, Hudnall, Jackson, Mitchell, Shinholster, > Thigpen, Thompson, Treadwell, Wall > _________________________________________________________________ Free up your inbox with MSN Hotmail Extra Storage. Multiple plans available. http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200362ave/direct/01/

Cremations were done as far back as the Stonehenge Period II (c. 2900-2400 BC) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.627 / Virus Database: 402 - Release Date: 03/16/2004

Does anyone know how long cremations have been done?

I have two thoughts here for you. 1. Was the ground frozen at the time of the person's death. I have heard of bodies being held until the ground thawed then the person was buried. 2. Did the person die somewhere else and the body cremated, then brought to the cemetery where other relatives were buried.

These sites give information that is interesting. Origins: The Clergy and the Methodist Way http://www.gborocollege.edu/prescorner/clergy.html Methodism first entered the Appalachian mountains in the late eighteenth century. It was introduced to the mountain residents by traveling preachers. http://www.les.appstate.edu/courses/appalachia/religion/method.htm Submissions to Circuit Rider Database http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohauglai/clerg002.htm The Traveling Church: http://home.netcom.com/~jog1/churchlist.html