Nancy,Is Ancestry.com owned by the Mormon church? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy" <nancybrister@i-55.com> To: <GA-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 11:45 AM Subject: [GA-Roots] Re: Ancestry.com to sell Family Tree data > Jeanette, > I'm the person who authored the message you forwarded to GA-Roots; I originally sent it out to only the lists I administer. However, I'm glad to see that it's making the rounds of various other lists, because I believe it's a message that everyone who has contributed a family tree to Ancestry should know about. What has happened with the way in which Ancestry conducts its business is very disheartening. But it doesn't really surprise me, I'd suspected something like this would happen for some time. > There are other sites of the same kind cropping up that promise they will always be free, but how are we to know this is true? > The only good news, I suppose, is that the Archives & History Depts. of the various states (and districts in other countries) are placing more and more material online, available to everyone. And there are many libraries who place a lot of valuable information online. We can only hope these trends continue. > Also, when I post records for my various names on the 'Records Pages' of my website, I always try to include the records of all of those surnames, not just the people who I know to be in my family. If we all do just a little, we can help the cause of free family research! > Have to get down off of my soapbox, the air's getting kind of thin up here. :-) > Nancy > > Visit the folks! www.geocities.com/twincousin2334 > www.thepastwhispers.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jeanette > To: GA-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 1:08 PM > Subject: [GA-Roots] Re: Ancestry.com to sell Family Tree data] > > > I've read emails where family line info was sent to others to help in > their research and were surprised to find that it has been added to > those people's on Ancestry. There's wrong info in Ancestry now on a > brother in law of mine which now will be sold and taken for gospel. > There's no way I can contact the person who put it there. Their email > address is now obsolete. > > The majority of people who put their information on Rootsweb did so > thinking it was safe and would never be sold. I'm very disappointed in > Rootsweb for letting our information be sold. Some people will remove > theirs, but there's so many more who may not see these notices and after > May won't be allowed to remove it. > > I don't object to the sharing of information. I do to it being sold when > everyone thought it wouldn't be. > I object to some of my ancestors being 'sealed' into the morman faith > after their death - nothing I can do about that, I guess, but there's a > Higher Power that will some day. > > > ==== GA-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Faye Dyess fdy@comcast.net Listmanager > Thou shalt not use e-mail for any illegal or unethical purpose. > GA Volunteer lookups:http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ga/state/volunteer.html > >

Go to Rootsweb.com and the to Mailing Lists and then to the States and Counties you are interested in and subscribe from there. The US Gen web is also an excellent place to look for areas of the country that you are interested in. Jackie ----- Original Message ----- From: <BustaKnowledge@aol.com> To: <GA-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 1:51 PM Subject: [GA-Roots] Genealogy Lists > Hello > > I need the name (s) of any genealogy lists or websites for Arkansas and > Oklahoma and Texas so that I can subscribe and start some research there. > > Thanks for the help. > > ray > > > ==== GA-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Faye Dyess fdy@comcast.net Listmanager > Thou shalt edit any quoted text down to the minimum thou needest. > GA Volunteer lookups:http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ga/state/volunteer.html >

I've read emails where family line info was sent to others to help in their research and were surprised to find that it has been added to those people's on Ancestry. There's wrong info in Ancestry now on a brother in law of mine which now will be sold and taken for gospel. There's no way I can contact the person who put it there. Their email address is now obsolete. The majority of people who put their information on Rootsweb did so thinking it was safe and would never be sold. I'm very disappointed in Rootsweb for letting our information be sold. Some people will remove theirs, but there's so many more who may not see these notices and after May won't be allowed to remove it. I don't object to the sharing of information. I do to it being sold when everyone thought it wouldn't be. I object to some of my ancestors being 'sealed' into the morman faith after their death - nothing I can do about that, I guess, but there's a Higher Power that will some day. TYBEETIDE@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 5/3/04 8:39:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time, mhbarden@rose.net > writes: > > >>Thanks to Jeanette for alerting us to the changes in Ancestry.Com. The >>commercialization of personal history records is a two edged sword. Does >>this mean any personal information we may have sent them will now be under >>the copyright and sole ownership of One World Preview? What about research >>I did and my cousin sent to Ancestry.Com? How does this affect GA-ROOTS-L >>and rootsweb.com? Yes, I know someone has to pay. That is not the most >>basic concern. The sale and control of personal information which was never >>intended to be commercialized leaves a bad taste in my mouth. It would be >>more acceptable if they charge for their site but do not think they can >>copyright and restrict usage of one's personal family tree data. Thanks >>again. Margie > > > > Margie, > I share your serious concerns, and I submitted nothing to Ancestry. It > infuriates me to know that personal interviews and my personal thoughts and > writing, have been plagarized, and will be exploited and sold, without permission, > and I can do nothing. Maybe we have the same "cousin". > Sherry

Hello I need the name (s) of any genealogy lists or websites for Arkansas and Oklahoma and Texas so that I can subscribe and start some research there. Thanks for the help. ray

Jeanette, I'm the person who authored the message you forwarded to GA-Roots; I originally sent it out to only the lists I administer. However, I'm glad to see that it's making the rounds of various other lists, because I believe it's a message that everyone who has contributed a family tree to Ancestry should know about. What has happened with the way in which Ancestry conducts its business is very disheartening. But it doesn't really surprise me, I'd suspected something like this would happen for some time. There are other sites of the same kind cropping up that promise they will always be free, but how are we to know this is true? The only good news, I suppose, is that the Archives & History Depts. of the various states (and districts in other countries) are placing more and more material online, available to everyone. And there are many libraries who place a lot of valuable information online. We can only hope these trends continue. Also, when I post records for my various names on the 'Records Pages' of my website, I always try to include the records of all of those surnames, not just the people who I know to be in my family. If we all do just a little, we can help the cause of free family research! Have to get down off of my soapbox, the air's getting kind of thin up here. :-) Nancy Visit the folks! www.geocities.com/twincousin2334 www.thepastwhispers.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeanette To: GA-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 1:08 PM Subject: [GA-Roots] Re: Ancestry.com to sell Family Tree data] I've read emails where family line info was sent to others to help in their research and were surprised to find that it has been added to those people's on Ancestry. There's wrong info in Ancestry now on a brother in law of mine which now will be sold and taken for gospel. There's no way I can contact the person who put it there. Their email address is now obsolete. The majority of people who put their information on Rootsweb did so thinking it was safe and would never be sold. I'm very disappointed in Rootsweb for letting our information be sold. Some people will remove theirs, but there's so many more who may not see these notices and after May won't be allowed to remove it. I don't object to the sharing of information. I do to it being sold when everyone thought it wouldn't be. I object to some of my ancestors being 'sealed' into the morman faith after their death - nothing I can do about that, I guess, but there's a Higher Power that will some day.

In a message dated 5/3/04 8:39:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time, mhbarden@rose.net writes: > Thanks to Jeanette for alerting us to the changes in Ancestry.Com. The > commercialization of personal history records is a two edged sword. Does > this mean any personal information we may have sent them will now be under > the copyright and sole ownership of One World Preview? What about research > I did and my cousin sent to Ancestry.Com? How does this affect GA-ROOTS-L > and rootsweb.com? Yes, I know someone has to pay. That is not the most > basic concern. The sale and control of personal information which was never > intended to be commercialized leaves a bad taste in my mouth. It would be > more acceptable if they charge for their site but do not think they can > copyright and restrict usage of one's personal family tree data. Thanks > again. Margie Margie, I share your serious concerns, and I submitted nothing to Ancestry. It infuriates me to know that personal interviews and my personal thoughts and writing, have been plagarized, and will be exploited and sold, without permission, and I can do nothing. Maybe we have the same "cousin". Sherry

Thanks to Jeanette for alerting us to the changes in Ancestry.Com. The commercialization of personal history records is a two edged sword. Does this mean any personal information we may have sent them will now be under the copyright and sole ownership of One World Preview? What about research I did and my cousin sent to Ancestry.Com? How does this affect GA-ROOTS-L and rootsweb.com? Yes, I know someone has to pay. That is not the most basic concern. The sale and control of personal information which was never intended to be commercialized leaves a bad taste in my mouth. It would be more acceptable if they charge for their site but do not think they can copyright and restrict usage of one's personal family tree data. Thanks again. Margie -----Original Message----- From: Jeanette <martinjj@planttel.net> To: GA-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com <GA-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, May 02, 2004 10:41 PM Subject: [GA-Roots] [Fwd: Ancestry.com to sell Family Tree data] > > >-------- Original Message -------- >Subject: Ancestry.com to sell Family Tree data >Resent-Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 18:17:48 -0600 >Resent-From: IRBY-L@rootsweb.com >Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 20:17:54 -0400 >From: Olivia <saffold@pineland.net> >To: IRBY-L@rootsweb.com > > If you have submitted a family tree to Ancestry.com, you should know >of the change about to be implemented by them. The Family Trees that >have been donated to Ancestry for free distribution to other researchers >are about to be sold by subscription: the OneWorldTree Preview cost will >be $49.95 for 14 months. If you'd prefer that your information was not >sold, there is a link below which will take you to a set of instructions on >opting out by deleting your tree. > After clicking on the link and arriving at the page, click on "What's a >preview?" near the top of the page. > Read thoroughly and then click on "View our checklist" (which appears >on #3). > Among other things, you will see the following sentence: > "If for any reason you do not want your tree to be part of the new >OneWorldTree service, you must delete it from the Ancestry World >Tree database by tentatively May 21, 2004." > This is the link: http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/trees/owt/ > > >Olivia Williamson Saffold >List Administrator >saffold@pineland.net > > > >============================== >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > >==== GA-ROOTS Mailing List ==== >Faye Dyess fdy@comcast.net Listmanager >Thou shalt not rely on the privacy of e-mail, especially from work. >GA Volunteer lookups:http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ga/state/volunteer.html >

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Ancestry.com to sell Family Tree data Resent-Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 18:17:48 -0600 Resent-From: IRBY-L@rootsweb.com Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 20:17:54 -0400 From: Olivia <saffold@pineland.net> To: IRBY-L@rootsweb.com If you have submitted a family tree to Ancestry.com, you should know of the change about to be implemented by them. The Family Trees that have been donated to Ancestry for free distribution to other researchers are about to be sold by subscription: the OneWorldTree Preview cost will be $49.95 for 14 months. If you'd prefer that your information was not sold, there is a link below which will take you to a set of instructions on opting out by deleting your tree. After clicking on the link and arriving at the page, click on "What's a preview?" near the top of the page. Read thoroughly and then click on "View our checklist" (which appears on #3). Among other things, you will see the following sentence: "If for any reason you do not want your tree to be part of the new OneWorldTree service, you must delete it from the Ancestry World Tree database by tentatively May 21, 2004." This is the link: http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/trees/owt/ Olivia Williamson Saffold List Administrator saffold@pineland.net ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Ralph, Thank you for your response to my BAILEY'S IN WALKER COUNTY query. I have noted the information you shared with me, and if I can make a connection I will let you know. I know my BAILEY's were as far south as Putnam County, Ga and thats just a couple counties up from Twiggs County, Ga.~~~~~~Teresa

I am looking in Milledgeville or Baldwin County to find a place called Logan's Bluff. Does anyone have any information concerning where it was or is located? Understand there may have been an old mill around there in the early 1800s. Any help finding the location will be appreciated.

Mary, My Antivirus will not let me open you files. Thanks, Brenda ----- Original Message ----- From: <Justtrubl@aol.com> To: <GA-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 8:57 PM Subject: [GA-Roots] Re: John William Coulter/Frances Brand > In a message dated 4/28/04 9:27:59 PM US Mountain Standard Time, > barben@gnat.net writes: > > > > > John William Coulter (b) abt. 1861(d) not sure. > > > > Married bef. 1887 > > > > France Louisa Brand (b)21-1858 Taylor County, Georgia > > (d) 3-23-1947 Taylor County, Georgia > > > I sent you information to your email regarding this family. > > Good Luck. > > Mary > > > > > > ==== GA-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Faye Dyess fdy@comcast.net Listmanager > Thou shalt ponder how thy recipient might react to thy message. > GA Volunteer lookups:http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ga/state/volunteer.html >

Ann, AHGP stands for American History and Genealogy Project. go here to learn more about us. http://www.ahgp.org/index.html Vicky Hall County Ga AHGP www.rootsweb.com/~gahall2 Banks County AHGP www.rootsweb.com/~gabanks2 > > For those of us who are new to the list, what is AHGP????? > > Ann >

THIS E-MAIL WAS SENT TO CYCLEPEACHTWO IN ERROR, INTENDED FOR SOMEONE ELSE. C.P.

Re "Kay Music and Sherry Herrell have been hard at work on thier second county - Bacon County, GA for AHGP." For those of us who are new to the list, what is AHGP????? Ann

In a message dated 4/28/04 9:27:59 PM US Mountain Standard Time, barben@gnat.net writes: > > John William Coulter (b) abt. 1861(d) not sure. > > Married bef. 1887 > > France Louisa Brand (b)21-1858 Taylor County, Georgia > (d) 3-23-1947 Taylor County, Georgia I sent you information to your email regarding this family. Good Luck. Mary

Kay Music and Sherry Herrell have been hard at work on thier second county - Bacon County, GA for AHGP. It is now online at http://www.rootsweb.com/~gabacon2/bacon_index.htm Drop by soon and see what a great job they are doing. Doris Robbins GA State Host for AHGP

You sure have a lot of familiar names, but I cannot connect. Have a Philip Bailey b. ca. 1770 who had sons John and Thomas b. 1800-1810 in Ga., and son Bryan Bailey b. 1806 in Ga. Also had daughter Lovecey who sometimes called Louisa b. ca. 1793 in NC. No record of Philip or Lovecey in NC I can find. Also have a William living next to my Philip in 1818 Twiggs County, Ga. who the Ga. Archives archivist says is probably related to Philip. Philip moved from Twiggs to Houston County, Ga. late 1820's and to Randolph County, Ga. late 1830's. Probably died in Randolph between 1840 and 1850. Bryan moved to Winn Parish, La. ca. 1857 and Lovecey who married second William Castleberry moved to Calhoun County, Fla. for 1850 census. A James Bailey was also in Houston County ca. 1830. I any of these names help, let me know. ----- Original Message ----- From: <GMAW706@aol.com> To: <GA-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 11:55 AM Subject: [GA-Roots] BAILEYS IN WALKER COUNTY,GEORGIA > I am looking for anyone that is researching my BAILEY line. CICERO G. BAILEY > b. 1910 ga, was my grandfather. his parents were EDGAR MORRIS BAILEY b. 1889 > in walker county and+ LILLIE OPHELLI CORDLE b. 1890 chatrtooga county. They > also had several other children: HENRY M. BAILEY b.1818, RICHARD M b.1922, CORA > MAE BAILEY b. 1925, BETHEL "BILL" BAILEY b. 1926 and MARTHA FRANCIS b.1928. > EDGAR'S parents were JAMES BAILEY b.abt 1856 m.MARTHA C-?- b.abt 1852 they > also had another son WILLIAM A. BAILEY b.1902 I find them in Walker county.West > Armurchee dist in1900. > JAMES BAILEYS parents are WILLIAM BAILEYb.abt.1830 IN GA, AND SARAH -?- > b.abt.1824 IN S.C.as per their ages in the 1860 census. Their other children > listed in the 1860 walker county census are: MARY J.BAILEY 8, LOUISA E.BAILEY 7, > GEORGE W. BAILEY 3 AND JESSE F.BAILEY 6/12 > By the 1870 census the are living in FRICKS GAP, WALKER COUNTY, GEORGIA with > an addition of two more children, JOHN W.BAILEY 7, and THOMAS BAILEY 4f > WILLIAM BAILEY b. abt.1830 in Georgia is as far back as I can get as both of his > parents were born in S.C. I don't know where to go from here. > CAN SOMEONE OUY THERE HELP ME WITH MY BAILEY RESEARCH??? > THANKS,~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~TERESA > > > ==== GA-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Faye Dyess fdy@comcast.net Listmanager > Thou shalt read thine own message thrice before thou sendest it. > GA Volunteer lookups:http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ga/state/volunteer.html > >

1880 Black Hall, Fulton Co Ga census, ED 87, pg 121A, Enu on 15 June, [Dist #530 GM] 272/275, Lines 29-32 [family] and 33-35 employees Toland Asa P. head 58 farmer GA GA GA Pellie wife 38 keep home GA GA GA Josephine dau 37 at home GA GA GA Nancey dau 20 at home GA GA GA Hausfau?, John (mu) 21 laborer GA GA GA Haynes, Texann (black) 11 servant GA GA GA Tidwell, Frank (white) 48 shoemaker GA GA GA --- The Atlanta Consitution Atlanta, Ga December 17, 1911 Social News "Mrs. Frank Huie, of Riverdale, Ga., spent Monday with Mrs. Pellie Toland at her home in Hapeville." --- Evidently Asa Toland had been married before. I can't find whether he and Pellie had children together or not. The parents of Pelatiah "Pellie" MANN Toland are Gideon Freeman Mann and Elizabeth A. Reid. Gideon F. Mann,Sr b abt 1812 Granville Co. NC d Sep 13, 1868 Clayton Co.GA. Elizabeth A. Reid b Oct 14, 1824 GA d Nov 18, 1891 Clayton Co. GA. She's buried Wallis Cemetery. I don't know if he's there or not. They wed Oct 6, 1841 Fayette Co GA, Book 8, pg 179. As far as I know they had 7 children: Pelatiah "Pellie" b abt 1842, Clementina "Clem" b abt 1845, MARY ANN b Feb 19, 1847, Gideon Freeman,Jr b abt 1849, S.T. (?) abt 1854 S.J. (?) abt 1856, M.E. (?) b abt 1858. --- My great grandparents: MARY ANN MANN b Feb 19, 1847 d Apr 1, 1905 wed Feb 4, 1868 in GA. LUCIUS ELISHA JOHNSON b Feb 24, 1847 Henry Co. GA, d Aug 12, 1911. Both buried Noah's Ark Methodist Church cemetery, Jonesboro, Clayton Co. GA. --- Anything you can share will be much appreciated. Jeanette Johnson Martin

I am looking for anyone that is researching my BAILEY line. CICERO G. BAILEY b. 1910 ga, was my grandfather. his parents were EDGAR MORRIS BAILEY b. 1889 in walker county and+ LILLIE OPHELLI CORDLE b. 1890 chatrtooga county. They also had several other children: HENRY M. BAILEY b.1818, RICHARD M b.1922, CORA MAE BAILEY b. 1925, BETHEL "BILL" BAILEY b. 1926 and MARTHA FRANCIS b.1928. EDGAR'S parents were JAMES BAILEY b.abt 1856 m.MARTHA C-?- b.abt 1852 they also had another son WILLIAM A. BAILEY b.1902 I find them in Walker county.West Armurchee dist in1900. JAMES BAILEYS parents are WILLIAM BAILEYb.abt.1830 IN GA, AND SARAH -?- b.abt.1824 IN S.C.as per their ages in the 1860 census. Their other children listed in the 1860 walker county census are: MARY J.BAILEY 8, LOUISA E.BAILEY 7, GEORGE W. BAILEY 3 AND JESSE F.BAILEY 6/12 By the 1870 census the are living in FRICKS GAP, WALKER COUNTY, GEORGIA with an addition of two more children, JOHN W.BAILEY 7, and THOMAS BAILEY 4f WILLIAM BAILEY b. abt.1830 in Georgia is as far back as I can get as both of his parents were born in S.C. I don't know where to go from here. CAN SOMEONE OUY THERE HELP ME WITH MY BAILEY RESEARCH??? THANKS,~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~TERESA

Hi, George Gaulphin lived on the SC side of the Savannah River below Augusta. Mary