Following were a couple of quick responses to the first question I had, re Salt List. Thanks for the response and I am forwarding to the "lists" I sent the note to. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------- From: Richard (RCSPAIN@aol.com) Salt was difficult to obtain and considered an absolute necessity. It was also a traditional item to be given to individuals. It goes back at least to Roman Empire times. The word salt comes from the Latin sal. Sal is also the origin of the word salary because salt was used as pay for the Roman soldiers. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------- From: ?? (jlpchtn@juno.com) The only thing that families did have or could raise was salt. Anyother thing they could get by on. Also they needed salt to cure their meat and it would last for years after it was cured. Salt had to come from the Great Salt Lake area and this is why they rationed it to the soldiers at that time. (I think jlpchtn@juno.com meant in the first sentence was "did not have" or "could not raise".) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------- David POPE (tabsgran2@aol.com)

In reviewing the Muscogee Co, GA GenWeb site (I believe it's a GenWeb site), I searched the Muscogee Co, GA-SALT LIST, (http://wso.net/gamuscog/salt_list.h tm) for Pope. Can someone tell me what this list might have been for? I understand that salt was supplied to soldier's families but why only salt? Also, following are 2 sections that were included on the list with POPE surnames. Can anyone help me with who were the husbands of the below widows and who are the parents of the 2 soldiers wife's? Under Order of Governor Brown dated July 24, 1863 LDS Microfilm #1730424 Names of soldier’s families supplied with salt under the order of Governor Brown July 24, 1863: .... Frances M. Pope, Missouri A. Pope Names of widows having a son or sons now in the service: ... Mrs. Rebecca Pope, Mrs. Caroline T. Pope, I had thought that Mrs. Rebecca Pope was the widow of Daniel Pope, b. 21 Nov 1805, Washington Co, GA, d. 13 Nov 1840 in Muscogee Co, GA and buried in Talbot Co, GA but I have no indication that she had either of the above sons in the service nor any other that I know of at this time. I feel like there must be a relationship between the widows and the soldiers families above. Any help will be appreciated. David POPE (tabsgran2@aol.com)

I am not certain why ONLY salt but I do know that salt was in great demand during the war on both sides. I had great - grandfathers that fought on both sides and against each other in four battles. The one from the north described in a letter how "the citizens" obtained their salt. "They set up three or four leeches, fill them up with dirt dug out of old smoke houses. They, then, drained water through them and boil it down to salt." The leeches he referred to were the instruments used to draw blood back when they bled people for their ailments. They must have been desperate for salt to have done that. Betty E. More ----- Original Message ----- From: <Tabsgran2@aol.com> To: <GA-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 6:51 PM Subject: [GA-Roots] Salt List, Muscogee Co, GA-Pope's > In reviewing the Muscogee Co, GA GenWeb site (I believe it's a GenWeb site), > I searched the Muscogee Co, GA-SALT LIST, (http://wso.net/gamuscog/salt_list.h > tm) for Pope. > > Can someone tell me what this list might have been for? I understand that > salt was supplied to soldier's families but why only salt? > > Also, following are 2 sections that were included on the list with POPE > surnames. Can anyone help me with who were the husbands of the below widows > and who are the parents of the 2 soldiers wife's? > > > Under Order of Governor Brown dated July 24, 1863 LDS Microfilm > #1730424 > > Names of soldier’s families supplied with salt under the order of Governor > Brown July 24, 1863: > > .... Frances M. Pope, Missouri A. Pope > > Names of widows having a son or sons now in the service: > > ... Mrs. Rebecca Pope, Mrs. Caroline T. Pope, > > I had thought that Mrs. Rebecca Pope was the widow of Daniel Pope, b. 21 Nov > 1805, Washington Co, GA, d. 13 Nov 1840 in Muscogee Co, GA and buried in > Talbot Co, GA but I have no indication that she had either of the above sons > in the service nor any other that I know of at this time. > I feel like there must be a relationship between the widows and the soldiers > families above. > > Any help will be appreciated. > > David POPE (tabsgran2@aol.com) > > > ==== GA-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Faye Dyess fdy@gate.net Listmanager > Thou shalt edit any quoted text down to the minimum thou needest. > DO YOU OWN A COPY OF A CENSUS?? THEN VOLUNTEER TO DO LOOKUPS!!! > >

>Sorry; no Branan, etc. in my Wilkes Cty, GA book. Diane, Thanks so much for taking the time to look them up. You are very generous with your time. Sue

----- Original Message ----- From: <Eveningcrow@aol.com> To: <GA-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 24, 2000 10:32 AM Subject: [GA-Roots] civil war records > <A HREF="http://www.nara.gov/nara/nail.html">NAIL Homepage</A> > http://www.nara.gov/cgi-bin/starfinder/22988/standard.txt > !. click on search archival holdings > 2. then click on nail standard search > 3. then write in civil war > 4. then click submit search > 5. then go to the name and click on the empty white box a check will appear > 6. then click on full > 7. then go to where it says display > to go to more hits go back to the gray page and look to the right and click > till it says 300 you may do this to read all good luck granny > > > ==== GA-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Faye Dyess fdy.gate.net Listmanager > VOLUNTEER TO TRANSCRIBE CENSUS FOR THE USGENWEB PROJECT > http://www.usgenweb.org/census > Thou shalt read thine own message thrice before thou sendest it. >

Dee, thank you for your help. The list of HIPP marriages is greatly appreciated. You are most generous to help all of us . Thanks again. Gus

Diane, Are there any Clouds or Johns(t)ons in your book? Laura

Thanks Dee. Yes it is unusual and so far there are 87 different variations on the spelling of my surname. It makes for interesting searching. And Abraham Holsonback just drops out of the sky in 1772 with no references to his past life. He came to SC with a wife Jane Or Jean and 6 children by spaceship I guess because there isn't any information about him prior to that. He has been my brick wall. I have almost all of the Holso(n)mback (and 87 various other spellings) after him, however if anyone has any listings on this surname anywhere I would appreciate having the information. Conrad Holsomback Hodges, SC mailto:triconholsomback@greenwood.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dee Thompson" <d7777@worldnet.att.net> To: <GA-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2000 7:05 PM Subject: Re: [GA-Roots] Re: North and South Carolina Marriages > Conrad, > That is such an unusual name that I wanted you to have anything even > remotely close. > > >From # 8 > HOLSENBACK, Eliza and Adam Flemore, 4 September 1841, Edgefield District, > S.C. > HOLSENBACK, Sarah and Tillman D. Naper, 22 November 1833, Edgefield > District, S.C. > > Dee > For details on sources used, refer to this link: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncbladen/lookups.htm > -----Original Message----- > From: Conrad & Tricia Holsomback <triconholsomback@greenwood.net> > To: GA-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com <GA-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Tuesday, June 06, 2000 3:54 PM > Subject: Re: [GA-Roots] Re: North and South Carolina Marriages > > > >Dee > >Would there happen to be any Holsomback / Holsonback / Holsonbake marriages > >listed, by some remote chance??? > >My ancestors did a good job of hiding from me. Especially Abraham > Holsomback > >ca b.1745. > >He was in Colleton County SC in 1772 and was granted a land patent of 400 > >acres there. > >Thanks > >Conrad Holsomback > >mailto:triconholsomback@greenwood.net > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Dee Thompson" <d7777@worldnet.att.net> > >To: <GA-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 10:42 PM > >Subject: Re: [GA-Roots] Re: North and South Carolina Marriages > > > > > >> Diane, > >> This book pertains to North and South Carolina marriages. > >> Dee > >> For details on sources used, refer to this link: > >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncbladen/lookups.htm > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: JDixon8671@aol.com <JDixon8671@aol.com> > >> To: GA-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com <GA-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> > >> Date: Monday, June 05, 2000 9:44 PM > >> Subject: Re: [GA-Roots] Re: North and South Carolina Marriages > >> > >> > >> >Dee: > >> > > >> >Do you show a Solomon Thompson married to Rebecca Mitchell, either late > >> 1700s > >> >or early 1800s, possibly Wilkinson or Hancock Cty, GA? > >> > > >> >Diane Thompson Dixon > >> > > >> > > >> >==== GA-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > >> >Faye Dyess fdy@gate.net Listmanager > >> >Thou shalt not curse, flame, spam or USE ALL CAPS. > >> >Researching the following families: Arnold, Alsobrook, Benton, > Booth, > >> Bradwell, Colson, Curles, Dailey, Davis, Dyess, Etheridge, Fort, > >> Fuller, Gregory, Hodge, Hooks, Hudnall, Jackson, Mitchell, > >Shinholster, > >> Thigpen, Thompson, Treadwell, Wall > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> ==== GA-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > >> Faye Dyess fdy@gate.net Listmanager > >> Thou shalt not forward any chain letter, (unless it's funny or deals with > >genealogy). > >> AGE AND TREACHERY WILL ALWAYS OVERCOME YOUTH AND SKILL > >> > >> > > > > > >==== GA-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > >Learn and Enjoy IRC Chats-Step by Step Instructions-It's free and fun > >http://www.flash.net/~gen4m/ > >Thou shalt ponder how thy recipient might react to thy message. > > > > > > > ==== GA-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Faye Dyess fdy@gate.net Listmanager > DO YOU OWN A COPY OF A CENSUS?? THEN VOLUNTEER TO DO LOOKUPS!!! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~uslookup > Thou shalt not rely on the privacy of e-mail, especially from work. > >

Hi, Jon Lou, I have so many Davises, I don't know what to do with them. They are the biggest headache. [Grin] Did you find your Berilla through her Native American ancestry? Do you have Berilla married to any other people? I have Berilla married to : Descendants of Berilla Davis 1 Berilla Davis b: Abt. 1856 married ca. 1847 in Walker Co., Ga. to .. +Daniel Davis b: November 30, 1854 in Walker Co., Ga. d: August 02, 1878 in Briartown, Ok. Father: John C. Davis Mother: Jennie Saphronia Tate *2nd Husband of Berilla Davis: married November 19, 1895 to .. +Newton Satterfield My Berilla is the daughter of Lorenzo Dow Davis, Sr. and Susie Miller. Daniel Davis, one of her husbands, is the son of John C. Davis and Jennie Saphronia Tate. Are we looking at the same person? Ava

Thanks for the info! Maybe that's why we could never get the Sec. of State out to our Gen. Soc. to speak while he was in office!

Diane - do you find any BENNETTS, BEARDENS, or BARRONS in that book? Thanks, Martha

Diane, Would you please check your book for the following name: COURSEY might be spelled (CORSEY, COURCIE, COURCY, DeCOURSEY) Thanks, Nancy

Diana: ANDERSON: Approximately 1779 timeframe: "Before leaving for South Carolina, Pickens and Dooly called for reinforcements under CAPTAIN ANDERSON to patrol the Savannah in order to hold back the loyalist forces whenever they should attempt a crossing. Boyd changed his course of march, failed to encounter Pickens, and attempted to cross into Wilkes at Cherokee Ford, which he found protected by a blockhouse. He consequently went five miles up the river and effected a crossing by dividing his men into small groups and sending them across on rafts. Passage was hotly contested by a small force of a hundred Americans, and Boyd lost a hundred men, killed, wounded, and missing. Sixteen Americans were killed and wounded and an equal number were taken prisoners. Pickens and Dooly, hastening back into Georgia, were reinforced by CAPTAIN ANDERSON with his remaining troops and by Colonel Elijah Clarke with a hundred dragons." ANDREWS: "The Chivers house in Washington (now replaced by a modern bungalow) was the childhood home of Maude Ohl (ANNULET ANDREWS), a newspaper writer and novelist, who served on the staff of the Atlanta Constitution and later wrote stories of her experiences in the Far East with her husband." ANDREWS: Speaking of Washington, GA......."The town is the birthplace of one of the most prominent Southern women of the Confederate days, ELIZA FRANCES ANDREWS, the first woman to be elected to membership in the International Academy of Literature and Science. Well known during her life as a botanist and educator, Miss ANDREWS is remembered also for her writings about this section during the War between the States...........MAUDE ANDREWS OHL, a novelist and prominent newspaper woman, was born in this town and spent her early life here." "In The War-Time Journal of a Georgia Girl, ELIZA FRANCES ANDREWS described how this flag was made by her and her sister-in-law, secretly because her father, Judge Garnett ANDREWS, was an unflinching upholder of the Union. Later, when a flag had been selected to represent all the Confederate states, Miss ANDREWS' flag was used to line a blanket for a soldier. "Happy excitement prevailed in 1926 when the well-known teacher, writer, and botanist ELIZA FRANCES ANDREWS (1840-1931) was elected to the International Academy of Letters and Science, an honor never before accorded to a woman. Miss ANDREWS, one of the first graduates of LaGrange College, had taught for 15 years at Wesleyan College, had published a diary of her experiences during the War between the States. At that time she was quetly living in Rome, GA. Expressing deep appreciation of the honor, she declared that she was too old to go to Naples, Italy, to receive the award. Two years later when she returned to visit her native Washington [GA], she was honored by a celebration held by local civic and patriotic organizations as well as the public schools. Her former pupils in Washington planted a white oak in her memory on the public school grounds." (This may not be any of the Andrews that you're looking for but if so, there's a wealth of info included in the sentences.....great trails to research). Will try to add more tomorrow. There's a Garnett Andrews and Garnetts Andrews, Jr. listed several listings for WOOD. Diane

Sorry; nothing on Bryan/Bryants. The following on King: "In 1785 the grand jury presented a protect to the state legislature for negligence in collecting taxes on state imports; in 1788 Wilkes Conty sent George Matthews, Florence Sullivan, and JOHN KING as delegates to the convention in Augusta for the ratification of the new Federal Constitution." "The Irvin Guards closely watched the development of the approaching Spanish-American War. In February, 1898, Captain R. O. Barksdale received word from Major N. A. Teague to be in readiness to move the Irvin Guards at a moment's notice, and in May Lieutenant A.L. KING and a corps of sixteen men were assigned to a company with headquarters at Barnesville, Georgia. Other Washington men were accepted as members of regiments throughout the state. After their return from war duties the guards remained in active organization until their disbandment in 1906." That's it for King. Diane

Sorry; no Branan, etc. in my Wilkes Cty, GA book. Diane

Would like to know if there were any Burden, Perryman, or Trammell surnames in this book. Thank you for your offer to help place relatives here. Joan -----Original Message----- From: D. Sjoberg <sjoberg@alltel.net> To: GA-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com <GA-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, June 06, 2000 11:02 AM Subject: [GA-Roots] Wilkes County Georgia information lookup please >> I have a small paperback book that I bought at a yard sale recently >entitled, >> "The Story of Washington-Wilkes" copyrighted 1941. It has a good index. >> Will be happy to do lookups from the index. > >What a nice find! Thank you for sharing! >Looking for Anderson/Anders/Andrews, Mathis, Wood. >thank you in advance > >diana > > > >==== GA-ROOTS Mailing List ==== >Faye Dyess fdy@gate.net Listmanager >HELP GET THE CENSUS ON THE INTERNET. VOLUNTEER TO TRANSCRIBE CENSUS FOR THE USGENWEB PROJECT http://www.usgenweb.org/census >Thou shalt not use e-mail for any illegal or unethical purpose. >

Dee Sorry, I left out, Edgefield District,SC. Jacob Ackerman d in 1820, Estate settlement was 1826. James Holladay and Catherine Acreman were in Abbeville, SC after 1826, Then on to Butler County, Ala by 1836 and abt 1850 aquired land in lowndes County, Ala. Thanks Betty

Looking for record of the marriage of William Duncan (Duncian) and Eliza Lemon (?spelling) during the 1830's thru 1840's. Any help with this brick wall would be greatly appreciated. Carol

Gerald, Sue Goodin here again. I'm not referring to the "marriage license," the people getting married must acquire. I am talking about a license to officiate at marriages that I must have in order to do the officiating. When I was ordained, I had to file and receive verification that such a license had been recorded before I could agree to "marry" anyone. Other states also require such documentation. I know. I have investigated in the process of performing out-of-state ceremonies. It is registered in a county, but is for an entire state. I don't know about Texas or Oklahoma, but I know it's so here in the Northwest. Gerald Gieger wrote: > I did not mean to imply that a Marriage License was not required, and that > it had to be signed and recorded/filed by the person who solemnizes the > Marriage...but as for the Preacher/Clergyman having to be registered > him/herself, I only know of one State (Oklahoma) that requires registration > with the County...In Texas, it doesn't matter, Washington either...We are > the UNITED STATES where Governemnt is not supposed to organize or interfere > with religion, and Marriage is/was a religious institution in bygone eras. > > >From: Susan Goodin <sgoodin@earthlink.net> > >Reply-To: GA-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > >To: GA-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: [GA-Roots] Preacher > >Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 23:22:25 -0700 > > >As a "preacher," I know most contemporary clergy (or whoever will do the > >marrying) must get a license to marry folks. Usually the license is only > >good > >for the state in which it's issued, although some states will let you cross > >state lines for one time only situations (like family etc.) > > > >I don't for sure about early 20th century, but my guess is it wasn't too > >different. Sue > > > >Gerald Gieger wrote: > > > > > In most states, a preacher only has to be recognized by his denomination > >in > > > order to be able to perform marriages...there is no state/county > > > registration required...except with his own organization, i.e. Baptist, > > > Methodist, etc. In the Church of Christ, any ordained Elder can perform > > > Marriages... > > > > > > >From: Chris Strickland <nstrickland@ez-inter.net> > > > >Reply-To: GA-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > > > >To: GA-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > > > >Subject: Re: [GA-Roots] Preacher > > > >Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 11:41:59 -0400 > > > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > > > >Received: from [209.85.6.30] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id > > > >MHotMailBAF938150043D82197E9D155061E04150; Sat May 27 08:43:18 2000 > > > >Received: (from slist@localhost)by bl-14.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id > > > >IAA00969;Sat, 27 May 2000 08:41:21 -0700 (PDT) > > > >From GA-ROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com Sat May 27 08:44:34 2000 > > > >Resent-Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 08:41:21 -0700 (PDT) > > > >X-Original-Sender: nstrickland@ez-inter.net Sat May 27 08:41:20 2000 > > > >Message-ID: <392FECC7.6EC44287@ez-inter.net> > > > >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I) > > > >X-Accept-Language: en > > > >Old-To: GA-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > > > >References: <75.4b13492.2661222e@aol.com> > > > >Resent-Message-ID: <247NVC.A.9O.hy-L5@bl-14.rootsweb.com> > > > >Resent-From: GA-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > > > >X-Mailing-List: <GA-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/2270 > > > >X-Loop: GA-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > > > >Precedence: list > > > >Resent-Sender: GA-ROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > >Lisa, > > > >I do know that people who were "Justice of Peace" could marry people > >also. > > > >You > > > >might > > > >try that list as they should have been registered. > > > >Chris > > > > > > > >BIGGAFIVE@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > > > > If my great grandfather was able to marry people, shouldn't he have > >to > > > >be > > > > > register with the state? This was around 1925 to about 1934. How > >could I > > > >find > > > > > out if he was register? 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Did Albert Ansley have a descendant named Albert J? I have searched many years for the parents of my ggrandfather Albert J Ensley supposedly born in GA in 1861. Not a clue who his parents were. The only documentation I can find on him, other than his death certificate, is when he married in Collin Co TX in 1897. Of course his parents are listed as unknown on the death certificate. He is not on any census anywhere with the name Ensley. Thanks Evelyn Rard