This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.families.aol.com/mbexec/msg/4300/wYX.2ACEB/34.39.40.46.101.102.103.107.108.109.111.112.118 Message Board Post: Hello! I am interested in the Charles Sanford Fuqua family. He is a son of Charles Bright & Eunice ann Johns Fuqua. Charles Sanford married Elizabeth Conard they had 13 children one of them being my mother Mary Jane. I would like to hear from anyone who had information on this family. Tara Blackwell I think you are connected to this family thru Neva Graff. Please contact me at Rosalyng1@aol.com thank you

Faye, I don't recall the event to which you refer, but if I said anything you felt was a "put down", I apologize. Please ask your question again. Hopefully, you will receive an elevated level of response. Frank Fuqua

Dear Joseph, Correction: Priscilla Owen Fuqua would have been 81 years old when her last child was born. Sorry about that. Jan Morgan Janice E. Morgan This is how we know what love is: Jesus Christ laid down his life for us 1 John 3: 16

Dear Joseph, There are many different versions out there but FYI the following seems to be the general con census name wise, Dates are just one submitters version but others are just as ridiculous. John b April 17, 1935 Thomas b 1736 Ralph ,Jr. b 1737 Elizabeth b 1738 Ann b 1739 Henry b 1740 Mary b 1742 William b 1744 Isham b 1748 Susannah Fuqua b 1750 Joseph b 1756 Martha b 1783 Bear in mind Ralph married Priscilla Owen (b 1702/01) in 1734. She would have been 32 years old. When the last child in this case, Martha, was born Priscilla would have been 71 years old!!!! Even allowing for twins or even Quaduplets which one submitter had she would have been physically unable to have all these children. Jan Morgan On Fri, 18 Apr 2003 10:21:32 -0500 "Joseph Ray" <ljray@charter.net> writes: > I am also confused - How much of Fuqua names are up for question. > Could > someone post the known children of Ralph Thanks Louise > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Frank Fuqua" <confuqua@bigfoot.com> > To: <FUQUA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 5:41 PM > Subject: [FUQUA] Re: "Controversy" >

I am also confused - How much of Fuqua names are up for question. Could someone post the known children of Ralph Thanks Louise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Fuqua" <confuqua@bigfoot.com> To: <FUQUA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 5:41 PM Subject: [FUQUA] Re: "Controversy" : At 04:11 PM 4/17/2003 -0600, you wrote: : >===================================================================== : >A result of your requested PML search. To refine or cancel this : >search, please visit http://pml.rootsweb.com/ : >===================================================================== : >Source: FUQUA-L@rootsweb.com : >Subject: [FUQUA] Amen Sue : > : > : >Amen Sue, I usually quit lists because of similar controversies. Sorta takes : >the fun out of genealogy, yes? : >Harold Bishop Morgan : ====================================================================== : : Controversy? Is the subject of documenting one's genealogy a controversy? : : I am an unabashed advocate of documenting, and will continue to advocate : the practice. : : I am at a loss to understand what all of this hoorah is about. As far as I : know, none of the original messages had anything to do with Sue. I : responded to her privately in an attempt to calm the waters. Her reaction : was to pick up her marbles and leave the list. : : Can someone please explain to me, either on the list or privately, what the : issue is? If we are going to bash each other, let's at least define the : debate and have one based on clear positions. : : Frank : : : ==== FUQUA Mailing List ==== : You are invited to visit the new Fuqua website at: : http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~fuqua : : : ============================== : To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: : http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 :

I understand the questions about the women. I found info on one list stating a woman had married a man 42 years her junior and then had children. She would have been 82 at the time. When I asked for clarification I did not hear from her again. And everyone, lighten up. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janice E Morgan" <woodjems@juno.com> To: <FUQUA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 7:11 PM Subject: Fw: [FUQUA] Amen Sue > Dear List Members, > > I'm new to this list and I'm probably the one who started the controversy > by complaining about the amount of misinformation being presented as > part of The Fugua Family History. This is not my style to cause > controversy > and for that I'm truly sorry. > > But I think every one is missing the point here. > > No one is doing themselves a service by quitting a list because > they feel these messages are directed at them. They weren't > directed at any particular person but at a problem that is > very serious. > > If you will take a look at some family histories presented on the > Internet and do the Math you will realize just how ridiculous some > of the claims are. More than a few have women having children > at age 47, 52, 56, and 58 years of age. I'm a woman as well as > a nurse and know this is impossible short of a Biblical miracle! > > I am not against using information found on the Internet > as a basis for your own research. That is what most people > who go to the trouble of carefully preparing a web site put it out > there for. > > Still it hurts when you've worked an untold amount of time only > to have what you have done claimed by others. If you are going > to use the information the least you can do is thank the person > and maybe even site that person or web site as a source. > > Once again, I apologize for starting this. > > Jan Morgan, a possible Fuqua Family Member. > > > ==== FUQUA Mailing List ==== > You are invited to visit the new Fuqua website at: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~fuqua > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

Dear List Members, I'm new to this list and I'm probably the one who started the controversy by complaining about the amount of misinformation being presented as part of The Fugua Family History. This is not my style to cause controversy and for that I'm truly sorry. But I think every one is missing the point here. No one is doing themselves a service by quitting a list because they feel these messages are directed at them. They weren't directed at any particular person but at a problem that is very serious. If you will take a look at some family histories presented on the Internet and do the Math you will realize just how ridiculous some of the claims are. More than a few have women having children at age 47, 52, 56, and 58 years of age. I'm a woman as well as a nurse and know this is impossible short of a Biblical miracle! I am not against using information found on the Internet as a basis for your own research. That is what most people who go to the trouble of carefully preparing a web site put it out there for. Still it hurts when you've worked an untold amount of time only to have what you have done claimed by others. If you are going to use the information the least you can do is thank the person and maybe even site that person or web site as a source. Once again, I apologize for starting this. Jan Morgan, a possible Fuqua Family Member.

In a message dated 4/17/03 5:40:01 PM Central Daylight Time, BrenBee@aol.com writes: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~fuqua > Frank Fuqua Confuqua@bigfoot.com

Wow! Who's the list owner here?!

For those of you who need a place to either focus your wrath, or to make constructive suggestions, please feel to communicate with me, the List Administrator (List Owner) at confuqua@bigfoot.com. Frank Fuqua

Amen Sue, I usually quit lists because of similar controversies. Sorta takes the fun out of genealogy, yes? Harold Bishop Morgan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Phelan" <sphelan@pacbell.net> To: <FUQUA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 9:28 PM Subject: RE: [FUQUA] Re: Ralph and Priscilla Fuqua Charles City, VA 1700's > Frank, > I've been a member of this list for years now, and have always respected > you and enjoyed reading your notes...until now. Genealogy is only a part > time interest for me, as I have a tremendously demanding job, busy family > life, and numerous hobbies. I have probably made use of some of the data > you've shared because I trust you as a source. The only way I use it is in > my family tree on my personal computer. It goes no further. I've pulled > data from many, many sources and I realize that there are inconsistencies, > and sometimes the data is just obviously wrong. When data is wrong, I just > leave it out. I have a wonderful value system, but you must understand, > that this is just a hobby for me and not my life. > > Until I read your note (and some of the others) today, I had no idea what > an ignorant, blood-sucking, family-tree stealing, leech I've been, > genealogically speaking. I've done my own research on most of my tree > within the last two hundred years, but don't really have the skills or time > to figure it out before that. I apologize for any data I've taken from you > and others. I clearly don't deserve it. You probably shouldn't even > publish it with people like me out there. I realize that you're talking > about people who are publishing your work without crediting you, but the > note went out to me, as well, and it's offensive. > > I'm sending you this note personally because I don't think the list server > is the proper place to air grievances like this. Your attitude makes me > feel like leaving the list, but I'm still interested in the Fuqua family, > being a direct descendant myself. In fact, I belong to a branch that is > not well documented on the web and I have many of the missing links, which > I've carefully researched myself and still work on occassionally. So I > think I'll stay. > > You're entitled to your opinion, as I'm entitled to mine. Thank you for > listening. > > Sue (Fuqua) Phelan > My line (with which you will probably find fault): Guillaume Fouquet> > William Humphrey Fouquet> Moses F. Fuqua> William Monroe Fuqua> Moses > Fuqua> William Fuqua> Moses Henry Fuqua> John Turner Fuqua> John Turner > Fuqua Jr.> John Paul Fuqua (my brother) > > -----Original Message----- > From: confuqua@bigfoot.com [SMTP:confuqua@bigfoot.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 9:53 AM > To: FUQUA-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [FUQUA] Re: Ralph and Priscilla Fuqua Charles City, VA 1700's > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/wYX.2ACEB/816.1 > > Message Board Post: > > Jan, > > It is so refreshing to hear another voice in the wilderness! > > I have abandoned the soap box from which I used to preach the need for > RESEARCH and SOURCE QUOTATIONS. It became apparent to me that most people > have no interest in, and do not enjoy, the genealogical processes. They are > content to collect dates and names from other people's work (?) and use > them as if they were automatically true (even if they don't make sense). > > If you want another exercise in amusement/frustration, try contacting all > of the people who have Guillaume Fouquets "ancestors" listed back for > several generations. They not only cannot provide any sources other than > listings they found on the Internet, they cannot justify why they think the > old man's name was Guillaume Fouquet (other than the fact that it was > listed thus in the Fuqua book). > > I have even had someone on this list copy a large portion of my web page, > and present it on their own site as if it were their own. Considering the > hours I spent building the site, my first reaction was one of anger. Upon > further reflection, I realized that the individual involved has a whole > different value system than mine, and making an issue of it would be a > waste of time. > > Maybe I should find my soap box and spend some more time on it. I doubt if > anything would change, but I might feel better. > > Frank > > > ==== FUQUA Mailing List ==== > You are invited to visit the new Fuqua website at: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~fuqua > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== FUQUA Mailing List ==== > You are invited to visit the new Fuqua website at: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~fuqua > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

At 04:11 PM 4/17/2003 -0600, you wrote: >===================================================================== >A result of your requested PML search. To refine or cancel this >search, please visit http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >===================================================================== >Source: FUQUA-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [FUQUA] Amen Sue > > >Amen Sue, I usually quit lists because of similar controversies. Sorta takes >the fun out of genealogy, yes? >Harold Bishop Morgan ====================================================================== Controversy? Is the subject of documenting one's genealogy a controversy? I am an unabashed advocate of documenting, and will continue to advocate the practice. I am at a loss to understand what all of this hoorah is about. As far as I know, none of the original messages had anything to do with Sue. I responded to her privately in an attempt to calm the waters. Her reaction was to pick up her marbles and leave the list. Can someone please explain to me, either on the list or privately, what the issue is? If we are going to bash each other, let's at least define the debate and have one based on clear positions. Frank

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/wYX.2ACEB/817 Message Board Post: I am searching for the children of WILLIAM FUQUA who appears on the 1830 Gwinnett Co. Ga. census. He has six children. It is believed he moved to Cherokee County, Ga. and died there right before the 1840 census was taken.

Sue: All right, that's the kind of spirit, zest and sarcasm I have in my branch of the Fuqua family. Don't take crap from anyone and speak out if you feel the need. As for my research, I received a lot of valuable information from Frank and appreciate it; that's when I was just starting out. But that information, along with items I've taken off various Web sites, goes into a separate computer file as unconfirmed or conflicts with other information. Then I can go from there, and it can be difficult to confirm something if you don't have the time or knowledge in regards to the process. But I understand what you're saying. I have a full-time job raising a kid on my own who is into everything from Cub Scouts to soccer, so the hobby usually sits on the back burner. I have no plans to publish my research online, I've been doing this work for my own enjoyment and plan to put it all together in a booklet for my immediate family someday. I'm going beyond just dates and place names, I've also been doing research on the histories of particular areas where my ancestors lived ‹ Virginia, Kentucky, Indiana, Iowa and Nebraska ‹ trying to understand what it was like in those days and how those people may have lived. Your e-mail/letter sounded just like my sister; it struck me as if it were a genealogical trait, therefore, I felt compelled to write. I hope the experience does not turn you off to a wonderful hobby. Take care all, Brad Fuqua on 4/16/03 7:28 PM, Sue Phelan at sphelan@pacbell.net wrote: > Frank, > I've been a member of this list for years now, and have always respected > you and enjoyed reading your notes...until now. Genealogy is only a part > time interest for me, as I have a tremendously demanding job, busy family > life, and numerous hobbies. I have probably made use of some of the data > you've shared because I trust you as a source. The only way I use it is in > my family tree on my personal computer. It goes no further. I've pulled > data from many, many sources and I realize that there are inconsistencies, > and sometimes the data is just obviously wrong. When data is wrong, I just > leave it out. I have a wonderful value system, but you must understand, > that this is just a hobby for me and not my life. > > Until I read your note (and some of the others) today, I had no idea what > an ignorant, blood-sucking, family-tree stealing, leech I've been, > genealogically speaking. I've done my own research on most of my tree > within the last two hundred years, but don't really have the skills or time > to figure it out before that. I apologize for any data I've taken from you > and others. I clearly don't deserve it. You probably shouldn't even > publish it with people like me out there. I realize that you're talking > about people who are publishing your work without crediting you, but the > note went out to me, as well, and it's offensive. > > I'm sending you this note personally because I don't think the list server > is the proper place to air grievances like this. Your attitude makes me > feel like leaving the list, but I'm still interested in the Fuqua family, > being a direct descendant myself. In fact, I belong to a branch that is > not well documented on the web and I have many of the missing links, which > I've carefully researched myself and still work on occassionally. So I > think I'll stay. > > You're entitled to your opinion, as I'm entitled to mine. Thank you for > listening. > > Sue (Fuqua) Phelan > My line (with which you will probably find fault): Guillaume Fouquet> > William Humphrey Fouquet> Moses F. Fuqua> William Monroe Fuqua> Moses > Fuqua> William Fuqua> Moses Henry Fuqua> John Turner Fuqua> John Turner > Fuqua Jr.> John Paul Fuqua (my brother) > > -----Original Message----- > From: confuqua@bigfoot.com [SMTP:confuqua@bigfoot.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 9:53 AM > To: FUQUA-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [FUQUA] Re: Ralph and Priscilla Fuqua Charles City, VA 1700's > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/wYX.2ACEB/816.1 > > Message Board Post: > > Jan, > > It is so refreshing to hear another voice in the wilderness! > > I have abandoned the soap box from which I used to preach the need for > RESEARCH and SOURCE QUOTATIONS. It became apparent to me that most people > have no interest in, and do not enjoy, the genealogical processes. They are > content to collect dates and names from other people's work (?) and use > them as if they were automatically true (even if they don't make sense). > > If you want another exercise in amusement/frustration, try contacting all > of the people who have Guillaume Fouquets "ancestors" listed back for > several generations. They not only cannot provide any sources other than > listings they found on the Internet, they cannot justify why they think the > old man's name was Guillaume Fouquet (other than the fact that it was > listed thus in the Fuqua book). > > I have even had someone on this list copy a large portion of my web page, > and present it on their own site as if it were their own. Considering the > hours I spent building the site, my first reaction was one of anger. Upon > further reflection, I realized that the individual involved has a whole > different value system than mine, and making an issue of it would be a > waste of time. > > Maybe I should find my soap box and spend some more time on it. I doubt if > anything would change, but I might feel better. > > Frank > > > ==== FUQUA Mailing List ==== > You are invited to visit the new Fuqua website at: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~fuqua > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== FUQUA Mailing List ==== > You are invited to visit the new Fuqua website at: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~fuqua > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Frank, I've been a member of this list for years now, and have always respected you and enjoyed reading your notes...until now. Genealogy is only a part time interest for me, as I have a tremendously demanding job, busy family life, and numerous hobbies. I have probably made use of some of the data you've shared because I trust you as a source. The only way I use it is in my family tree on my personal computer. It goes no further. I've pulled data from many, many sources and I realize that there are inconsistencies, and sometimes the data is just obviously wrong. When data is wrong, I just leave it out. I have a wonderful value system, but you must understand, that this is just a hobby for me and not my life. Until I read your note (and some of the others) today, I had no idea what an ignorant, blood-sucking, family-tree stealing, leech I've been, genealogically speaking. I've done my own research on most of my tree within the last two hundred years, but don't really have the skills or time to figure it out before that. I apologize for any data I've taken from you and others. I clearly don't deserve it. You probably shouldn't even publish it with people like me out there. I realize that you're talking about people who are publishing your work without crediting you, but the note went out to me, as well, and it's offensive. I'm sending you this note personally because I don't think the list server is the proper place to air grievances like this. Your attitude makes me feel like leaving the list, but I'm still interested in the Fuqua family, being a direct descendant myself. In fact, I belong to a branch that is not well documented on the web and I have many of the missing links, which I've carefully researched myself and still work on occassionally. So I think I'll stay. You're entitled to your opinion, as I'm entitled to mine. Thank you for listening. Sue (Fuqua) Phelan My line (with which you will probably find fault): Guillaume Fouquet> William Humphrey Fouquet> Moses F. Fuqua> William Monroe Fuqua> Moses Fuqua> William Fuqua> Moses Henry Fuqua> John Turner Fuqua> John Turner Fuqua Jr.> John Paul Fuqua (my brother) -----Original Message----- From: confuqua@bigfoot.com [SMTP:confuqua@bigfoot.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 9:53 AM To: FUQUA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [FUQUA] Re: Ralph and Priscilla Fuqua Charles City, VA 1700's This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/wYX.2ACEB/816.1 Message Board Post: Jan, It is so refreshing to hear another voice in the wilderness! I have abandoned the soap box from which I used to preach the need for RESEARCH and SOURCE QUOTATIONS. It became apparent to me that most people have no interest in, and do not enjoy, the genealogical processes. They are content to collect dates and names from other people's work (?) and use them as if they were automatically true (even if they don't make sense). If you want another exercise in amusement/frustration, try contacting all of the people who have Guillaume Fouquets "ancestors" listed back for several generations. They not only cannot provide any sources other than listings they found on the Internet, they cannot justify why they think the old man's name was Guillaume Fouquet (other than the fact that it was listed thus in the Fuqua book). I have even had someone on this list copy a large portion of my web page, and present it on their own site as if it were their own. Considering the hours I spent building the site, my first reaction was one of anger. Upon further reflection, I realized that the individual involved has a whole different value system than mine, and making an issue of it would be a waste of time. Maybe I should find my soap box and spend some more time on it. I doubt if anything would change, but I might feel better. Frank ==== FUQUA Mailing List ==== You are invited to visit the new Fuqua website at: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~fuqua ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

It seems more people are interested in providing a long list of names to impress their families and friends when in actual fact all they doing is setting themselves up for a great deal of embarrassment later on. Many honest people make mistakes, I have myself, however, the real mistake is not accepting that a mistake has been made and corrections made. Thanks Frank, for your letter. it is nice to know someone out there seeks the truth. Jan Morgan

Hi I personally think that the topic of research and sources should be discussed far more than it is. I appreciate all the discussion about this subject. I do not list my sources on the internet anywhere that I have posted my information because those who so freely take from others without doing the genealogical work themselves are not going to get my sources unless they personally contact me. I too have had others take, errors and all, and attach it their postings without listing me as the researcher and the errors have been carried on to other databases. These errors were made because I was just beginning my research and only had family members' word of mouth. But wanted to get the basic families out there so others would be able to could make a connection. Since that time I have documented and corrected these errors in my database. If someone contacts me I freely share the information and sources if they wish to have them. I have one little step to finish to have my husband's family listed as pioneer settlers of Florida but because I can not prove whether Absalom or his son John Fuquay was the father of Jackson J. Fuquay I have not gone any further with it. I appreciate all you and your researchers do to try to help all of us who are searching for our ancestors. I am also thankful that you all are always the voice of reason in this complicated process. Harriett Fuquay

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/wYX.2ACEB/816.1 Message Board Post: Jan, It is so refreshing to hear another voice in the wilderness! I have abandoned the soap box from which I used to preach the need for RESEARCH and SOURCE QUOTATIONS. It became apparent to me that most people have no interest in, and do not enjoy, the genealogical processes. They are content to collect dates and names from other people's work (?) and use them as if they were automatically true (even if they don't make sense). If you want another exercise in amusement/frustration, try contacting all of the people who have Guillaume Fouquets "ancestors" listed back for several generations. They not only cannot provide any sources other than listings they found on the Internet, they cannot justify why they think the old man's name was Guillaume Fouquet (other than the fact that it was listed thus in the Fuqua book). I have even had someone on this list copy a large portion of my web page, and present it on their own site as if it were their own. Considering the hours I spent building the site, my first reaction was one of anger. Upon further reflection, I realized that the individual involved has a whole different value system than mine, and making an issue of it would be a waste of time. Maybe I should find my soap box and spend some more time on it. I doubt if anything would change, but I might feel better. Frank

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Fuqua Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/wYX.2ACEB/816 Message Board Post: I have been reveiwing the family trees published on Rootsweb and it is quite obvious many researchers have copied each other in posting dates of birth for Ralph and Priscilla Fuqua's children. If Priscilla was born in 1702 and married in 1734 she would have been 32 years old. Most of you have her having children up to and including 1757. She would have been 56 years old. I don't believe she was Abraham's Sarah! This is a classic case of no research.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/wYX.2ACEB/815 Message Board Post: Hello! I'm looking for any history, pictures, or any other information on Lelitia and Abraham and their family. I would be very grateful for any assistance. Thank you. Mavis Bassett