Folks, I have been reading through letters Jane Osterberg has sent to me over the years and trying to retype the key information on her William Fulton so I can put it on our discussion list (she does not have internet access). It will be a while before I have completed that goal (as usual too much overtime at my day job). But one of the items that she mentions is the Wyncoop/Wynkoop relationship with her family, and this should be of immediate interest to many on this discussion list. As outlined below, William FULTON's son Isaac married Annetje BRITT, who is the grandaughter of Capt.Tobias Wyncoop/Wynkoop (1717-1786) and Leah Legg who resided in Saugerties, NY. Saugerties is about 12 mile north of Kingston, NY. I am just going to provide some sketchy outline of Jane Osterberg's Fulton line to provide a frame of reference for this note. 1 William FULTON b 1755-1765 or b before 1755 (based on conflicting census analysis), b 1757 based on Rev War muster roll d ca 1810/1820 in Ontario Co, NY 1774 resided New Windsor,Ulster Co, current Orange County, NY 1790 Census in New Windsor, Ulster Co, NY with Elizabeth FULTON next door. 1800 Census resided at Seneca Twp, Ontario Co, NY + Martha CRAWFORD,m. 25 March 1788 at New Windsor Presb Ch, NY d 1825 2 Isaac W. FULTON b ca 1788 New Windsor, NY, d 24 Sept 1858 age 69 Williamston, MI 1810 Census appears in household after William Fulton, in Ontario Co,NY. + Annetje BRITT (also listed as Hannah J.) b 14 July 1786 dau of Petrus BRITT b 1755 and Lea WYNKOOP b 1755. m 2 Feb 1810 in Reformed Dutch Church of Marbletown, Ulster Co, NY d 20 Dec 1868 Williamston, MI Her Uncle Peter WYNKOOP resided in Seneca,Ontario Co, NY Niece of Peter WYNKOOP (Peter is Leah's brother). Niece of Annetje WYNCOOP who marries Christian MYER, a 2nd Lt. in the Rev War in the Albany 11 Regmt in Capt David Abeel's Company. Granddau of Capt.Tobias WYNCOOP/ WYNKOOP(1717-1786) and Leah LEGG who resided in Saugerties, NY. Annetje WYNCOOP was a sister to Leah WYNCOOP. Jane thinks that the marriage between Annetje and Isaac W. Fulton was an arranged marriage. Wyncoops appear in the same regiment in which William Fulton of Ulster Co, NY served during the Revolutionary War. Annetje Britt's uncle, Peter Wynkoop, lives in the same area as Isaac Fulton in Seneca Township, Ontario Co, NY. Clearly the Fultons and Wyncoops in Ulster/Orange counties NY move to the same area in Ontario Co, NY. Jane brought to my attention an entry from the book, Wynkoop Genealogy in the United States of America by Richard Wynkoop, 3rd edition, The Knickerbocker Press, New York, 1904. (Copy available at the New York Genealogical Biographical Library, NYC, G W 9892.) It makes some exciting revelations. Page 30-31: 40.Tobias Wyncoop, (Evert 4, Cornelius 1,) baptized April 28, 1717: died about 1786: married November 11, 1741, Leah Legg, he described as born in Kingston, and she in Brabant (Ulster County, N.Y.). Her name is found also as Legh. Tobias and his children were owners of a saw mill, on the Katerkil. The children lived in the town of Suagerties, and were men of wealth. They were among the chief supporters of Kaatsbaan church. The last will of Tobias, as of Blue Mountains, Ulster County, dated November 10, 1785, proved September 8 1786, mentions his wife Leah, his sons, Hezekiah, Tobais, Petrus, and William, and his daughters, Leah and Anntje. It is on file in the office of the Clerk of the Court of Appeals, Albany, N.Y. (Footnote 93) Children of Tobias and Leah Wynkoop: 133. Cornelius: bp in Kingston, Apl 25, 1742: d young, and unmarried. (Footnote 94) 134. Anne: bp. Oct 31, 1743, Kaatsbaan ch. Her tombstone in a Saugerties graveyard, on the bank of the Hudson, reads "Gb. 1743 Gs. 1744" 135. Anne: bp Nov 11 1744: commonly called Hannah: m. Christian Meyer. 136. Hezekiah: bp. June 3 1750: m. Maria Meyer 137. William: bp Dec 26, 1751: d. in infancy. 138. William, Major: bp Mch 4 1753 m. Charity Schermerhorn. 139. Leah: bp. Mch 31, 1755: m. Peter Britt. 140. Catharine: bp Feb 23 1757 "Catharina" 141. Tobias bp. Aug 13 1758: m. Jane Schermerhorn 142. Petrus: b Aug 4 1760 Catskill: (Footnote 95) m. Helena Beer Continuing on page 31-32: 44. Cornelius Wynkoop, (Gerret 5, Cornelius I,) born in Kingston, N.Y., December 17, 1700, baptized, January 1, 1701: died October 26, 1754: married, November 2, 1726, Helena Van de Grift. He removed, about the year 1717, with his father's family, to Moreland, Montgomery County, Penn.: and, perhaps, thence to Bucks County, in 1727. Children of Cornelius and Helena Wyncoop: 143. Jemima: bp Jan 7, 1728, "Jackamincae": m. Apl 16, 1747, Joseph Enock. (Footnote 96) 144. John: b Dec 1 or 15, 1729: m. Catharine Van Meter. 145. Nelly: b June 7, 1732, (Footnote 97) bp. July 8, "Nelle." (Footnote 96) It is supposed that she was the person who married, August 20, 1755, Robert Fulton. (Footnote 98) 146. Gerrit: b Nov 13 1736 (Footnote 97) bp. Jan 9 1737 (Footnote 96) 147. Rebecca: b. Feb 2 1739,(Footnote 99) bp. Mch 25: m. Jan 22, 1761, Andrew Van Buskark. (Footnoe 96) 148. Cornelius: b May 3 1741. (Footnote 99) bp. June 18 (Footnote 96). See Cornelius [164]. 149. Helena: b Oct 26 1743, bp Dec 18 (Footnote 96). d Nov 15 1762, (Footnote 99). It is supposed that she was the Helena who married, Mch. 30, 1761, David Fulton, Sen, (Abington ch. records). Perhaps David Fulton, Sen, married "Nelle" [145] and his son Robert, by a former wife, married this Helena (Footnote 100). 150. Nicholas: b. Mch 27 1746: d. Oct 5 1760 (Footnote 99) 151. Jacob: b Nov 29 1750 (Footnote 99): married, under license of Mch. 10, 1772, Hannah Cleaver. (Footnote 99) (Footnote 93: Surrogate's Office,, N.Y. Book 39, p 283.) (Footnote 94: Bradley Wynkoop [635].) (Footnote 95: Ibid.) (Footnote 96: Pres. Ch.,Abbington, Penn., per Charles R. Hildeburn) (Footnote 97: Christopher L. Wynkoop [686]) (Footnote 98 Christ Church, Phil. See also note to Helena [149]) (Footnote 99 Penn. Archives, 2nd series, vol ii. (Footnote 100: A manuscript, made by a David Fulton, and dated November 29, 1855 narrates that David Fulton, the ancestor of the Fulton family, in this country, was an Ulsterman, who came to this country to escape persecution, and settled about one hundred miles northeastward from Boston. But the need of constant watchfulness against the savages worried him and he sold his place and purchased land about fifteen miles northeast of Philadelphia. He left three sons, David, Robert, James, who removed to Virginia, and settled in Frederick and Loudon counties. He also had a daughter, Hestor, who married a Mr. Middleton. Robert Fulton married, in Pennsylvania, a woman named Wyncoop, a descendant of an ancient family in Germany or Holland, wine merchants - hence the name, from wine and cup. A cane, in possession of one of the family, in 1824, is inscribed with their coat of arms, a merchant holding a cup of wine in his hand. [No-the derivation is from the Netherland wyn, wine, and kooper, a buyer.-COMPILER] See also Margaret Fulton, who married, in 1787, Cornelius Wynkoop [365]. Robert Fulton, the inventor, b 1765, d 1815, m 1806 Harriet Livingston, was son of an immigrant from Kilkenny, Ireland. Continuing on page 33: 48.Philip Wyncoop (Gerret 5, Cornelius 1) bapt 1709 in Kingston, m Margaret Conover of Monmouth, NJ, d 1771 and last will as of the manor of Moorland, County of Philadelphia, Penn dated July 13, 1771. Continuing on page 59: 144. John Wyncoop,(Cornleius 44, Gerret 5, Cornelius 1) born December 1 or 15 1729 (footnote 160) baptized March 5, 1730 (footnote 161): died July 14, 1784 (footnote 162). married March 26 1751, Catharine Van Meter, of New Jersey. (footnote 160) Children of John and Catharine Wyncoop: 363. Cornelius: b May 24 1758, bp Aug 5 (footnote 163): d Aug 1758. 364: Isaac: b. Aug 1 1759 : m. Rachel Van Cleve. 365. Cornelius; b. June 18, 1762, m. Margaret Fulton 366. Abraham: b Apl 7 1765: m. Ruth Hayr 367. Rebecca: b. Aug 28 1768, bp. Oct 16 (Footnote 163) m. 1st Henry Hoogland, but had no child: m 2nd George or Casper Fetter, and had three sons and five daughters. (Footnote 160: Christopher L. Wynkoop [686].) (Footnote 161: First Pres. ch., Phil., per Charles R. Hildeburn) (Footnote 162: Charles Wyncoop [640]) (Footnote 163: Abington ch., Penn, per Charles R. Hildeburn.) *************************************************** We have had numerous discussions in the past casting doubt on the validity of the statement above regarding Robert Fulton, inventor..son of immigrant from Kilkenny. For details search the Fulton-L archives for "steamboat" and "myth". But what I want to focus on in this note is the Wyncoop/Fulton connection. Has anyone found the David Fulton manuscript written in 1855 ? It is of great interest - this potential migration path of Fultons from 100 miles northeast of Boston to Pa (this very well may actually be the current Londonderry, NH area - in Ruth Coan's book page one she makes reference to the Robert Fulton of Boston purchasing land in Londonderry NH in 1759 from a Matthew Wright) to the Manor of Mooreland, PA. In the 9 Dec 1756 Penn Gazette, a David Fulton of Cheltenham Twp, Phil Co, PA announces he is missing a horse which had been brought to his present home from Bordontown, NJ. These Fultons sure loved their horses (most likely racing horses)! Remember the James Fulton in Va with the horse from New England ? Even my grandfather in the early 1900s loved to race his horses against other farmers in a small community in Sullivan Co, NY. If you have additional information on other Wyncoop/Fulton relationships, please share them on the list with us. Often it is necessary to study the entire forest to understand the individual trees in the forest, and I feel that the Wyncoop connection will open up some new doors for many of us. Roberta R. (Fulton) Hirth Harriman, New York 10926 FULTON web page at: http://www.frontiernet.net/~elisa96/hirth/fulton.htm