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    1. Re: Fulton + Wynkoop (Pt 13) and Watervliet, NY location
    2. Roberta (Fulton) Hirth
    3. Pat, Regarding the location of Watervliet, New York, I checked the USGS GNIS (Geographic Names Information System) and only found one area in New York called Watervliet located 6 miles North of Albany, New York - on the Hudson River opposite Troy, NY. http://mapping.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html Watervliet Shaker Historic District Mother Ann Lee (1736-1784), religious founder "Mother" Ann Lee, founder of the American colonial variant of the Shaking Quaker religion, the Shakers, established the movement's first permanent settlement in Watervliet in 1774. http://www.cr.nps.gov/nr/travel/pwwmh/ny16.htm The Shaker - Who Are They - is briefly explained at: http://www.catscats.com/s_info.html At the bottom of this site notice the list of geographic locations they settled that spans NY, KY, OH, IN, IL, MI some of which coincides with locations of Fultons you have mentioned. South Union, Logan Co, KY Pleasant Hill, Mercer Co, KY Cane Ridge, Bourbon Co, KY Watervliet, Bierran Co, Michigan; Watervliet, Dayton Ohio; West Unio, Indiana; White Oak, Georgia;... and more... Decided to use a search engine and on the advanced search specified the document must contain the word Watervliet and the word Shaker. I used the following search engine: http://www.alltheweb.com/advsearch Based on the search engine results, there are several sites that would help one to better understand the migration path of these folks folks and possible contacts: http://www.shakerwssg.org/Karen's%20Home%20Page.html Shaker Village Watervliet, Dayton Ohio: http://www.shakerwssg.org/Watervliet-Martha%20Boice-Chpt%209.html Follow the link: article, Origin of the Watervliet, Ohio Shaker Community by J.P. MacLean). "... Shaker documents at Union Village testify that the Watervliet society was founded in 1806. At this time it went both by the name Beulah and Beaver Creek. The community was not called Watervliet until 1813. It was so named from the community at Watervliet in New York." Shaker Manuscripts: http://www.dayton.lib.oh.us/~ads_elli/shakers.htm Shaker Artifacts: http://www.shakermuseumoldchat.org/collection.htm There is so much to explore.... Roberta R. (Fulton) Hirth Harriman, New York Fulton web page at: http://www.frontiernet.net/~elisa96/hirth/fulton.htm\ Search Fulton-L archives at: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl

    03/05/2000 05:06:04
    1. Fulton + Wynkoop (Pt 16)
    2. Patrice Fulton Stark
    3. Continuing with the Fulton and Wynkoop family connections... Like sun-burned archaeologists, we are hunched over pits of debris sifting the Fulton information included in the "Charles Blair Tavenner Collection" housed at the Thomas Balch Library for History & Genealogy. Our "Fulton-On-The-Scene" is Carol (Fulton) Proctor, a resident of Loudoun County, Virginia, with no apparent connections to any of these Fulton families! (I just wanted everyone to know that -- Carol is MY cousin and you can't claim her!) Before we begin, here is that list I made of Fulton tithables (included in "Fulton + Wynkoop (Pt 9)"... [Source: Hopkins, Margaret L. "Index to The Tithables of Loudoun County, Virginia," (Photocopy, unknown publication information), page 28.] 1765 Hugh Fulton, Loudoun County 1768 Hugh Fulton, Loudoun County 1771 Hugh Fulton, Shelburne Parish -> John Fulton, Shelburne Parish 1772 Hugh Fulton, Shelburne Parish 1773 Hugh Fulton, Shelburne Parish 1775 David, Hugh, & Robert Fulton, Shelburne Parish 1776 David & Robert Fulton, Shelburne Parish 1777 David & Robert Fulton, Shelburne Parish 1778 David & Robert Fulton, Shelburne Parish 1779 Hugh, Robert, & Robert Fulton Jr, Shelburne Parish 1782 Hugh, Robert, & David, Shelburne Parish 1783 Robert, Robert Jr., & David Fulton, Shelburne Parish 1784 William Fulton, Cameron Parish 1785 William Fulton, Cameron Parish What's a Tithable? (Or, more correctly, Who's a Tithable?) A tithe was the English term for a tax. Usually (?), Males, over 21, were required to pay the tithe. I've seen some jurisdications where Males were exempted for infirmity, military service, or old age. Often, to encourage settlement, newcomers were allowed a "grace period" before they were required to pay. (Warning! I do NOT know the rules that were in effect in Loudoun Co, VA between 1765 and 1785.) A portion of the Tithe was used to support the English Church and Ministers, the rest was used for public services and to line the pockets of public officials, a tradition that continues. We had a Revolution so now we don't give any public money to churches; they have to solicit their own "tithes and offerings." Basically, every Fulton on this "List of Tithables" was at least 21 years of age on the date listed. Not all lists have survived, so it is not uncommon to see gaps in the years. Not everyone was able or willing to tithe, so their name may not appear on the tithe list but may appear on a "List of Delinquents", if it survived. There are 26 separate Fulton entries on this List. Theoretically, there could be 26 different Fulton males who paid the tithe, then died or left the area. However, there are only 6 different Fulton names, Hugh, John, David, Robert, Robert Jr., and William. I find it hard to believe that 26 Fultons paid tithes but I'm also unconvinced that only 6 Fultons paid tithes. * * * * * How do you KNOW that, Mr. Tavenner? (continuing from Part 15) [I'm referring back to text included in the message titled "Fulton/Wynkoop - Loudoun Co., VA" posted 2 Mar 2000 by TheProctors] "This Robert <referring to witness Robert F. Fulton, 1776/77?> was shown as 'security' for the marriage of David Fulton (c. 1771-1823) & Rachel Smith October 29, 1787 and Robert 'attested to the age of Rachel' [and identified by Mr. Tavenner as the son of Robert Fulton (1798)]." Wow! This statement is really loaded! Tavenner concludes that Robert Fulton, SON of Robert Fulton (d 1798), attested to the age of Rachel Smith in 1787. How does Tavenner know it wasn't the older Robert Fulton? or Robert F. Fulton? or some other Robert Fulton just passing through? The Robert Fulton who witnessed Oxley's Will in February 1776 and proved it in October 1777, using the name "R. F. Fulton", is probably the Robert Fulton tithable for 1775, 1776 and 1777. (Why doesn't he use the middle initial on the tithe list?) Is this the same Robert Fulton who tithes in 1778 and 1779? Maybe. Robert Fulton Jr. pays in 1779. Either he has just come of age (b bef 1759), or he has just qualified as a tithable (arrived within the last few years). The "Jr." doesn't prove he is the son of the other Robert, but it does suggest he is younger than the other Robert. We know that in 1792, a Robert Fulton signed a Will providing first for his son Robert Fulton. We also know that Hugh Fulton (d 1803) had no legal heir named Robert. I'm willing to concede that there were only two Robert Fultons on this tithe list. (Are you?) However, which Robert Fulton witnessed the Oxley Will? I'm uncomfortable with Tavenner's conclusion that it is Robert, son of Robert who died in 1798. I'd really like to see some document supporting this conclusion. While we're thinking about "Robert Fulton Jr.", the one on the 1779 list ... the headstone for the Robert Fulton buried at Leesburg Methodist Cemetery, shows "1763-1841" Was a man required to tithe at age 16? (Really need to verify the rules in Loudoun County!) Headstones, if placed at the time of death, are usually accurate about the death year but may contain erroneous birth years. Robert Fulton was close to 80 years old when he died in 1841. The stone was arranged for by a relative (a second wife, perhaps?), often someone who wasn't around when the deceased was born. What about that David Fulton - Rachel Smith marriage in 1787? How do we know that David Fulton who married Rachel Smith is the son of Robert Fulton (d 1798)? Couldn't he just as easily be the son of Hugh Fulton? Or, couldn't he also be any one of the six Davids on the tithe list? The life span estimate for David Fulton (c. 1771-1823) is clearly wrong for this particular marriage. If groom David was born in 1771, then he would only be 16 when he married Rachel Smith and somebody would have to give permission for him to marry. Males had to be "of age", usually 21, to marry without consent. [By the way... "circa", also shown as "c." or "ca" indicates a 10-year span of time and means "5 years before or 5 years after this date."] Robert Fulton (which one?) steps in to "attest" to Rachel's age, suggesting that she is of legal age to marry (18 or older, b bef 1770). Notice that Robert did not give "consent" for her to marry which would imply she was under age 18. If David Fulton was born in 1766, he would be 21 at the time of this marriage in 1787. Therefore, groom David Fulton's life span estimate should be written "(bef 1767-1823)". Wait a minute! 1823? How do you KNOW that? Obviously, there's some additional information in Loudoun County regarding this couple. Somebody knows that David, husband of Rachel, died in 1823. Somebody also knows that Robert S. Fulton and David Fulton were sons of this man. We really ought to clarify this so we can eliminate some of these extraneous Fultons we're stumbling over. Let's see -- what does this information tell us about the Fultons on the tithe list? Let's assume that there are only two Robert Fultons on the tithe list. Robert Fulton, d 1798 [also known as "R. F." Fulton] son Robert Fulton, d 1841 [also known as "Jr."] Let's assume that David Fulton who married Rachel Smith was a young man, just 21 in 1787. That means he is NOT any one of the six David Fultons on the tithe list. So, who is(are?) the David(s) Fulton who tithed in 1775, 1776, 1777, 1778 and 1782, 1783? Is it David, son of Hugh Fulton? Is it David, the one who married Rachel Smith? Is it David, son of Robert Fulton (d 1798)? Is it some other David(s) Fulton? If I told you that a Fulton child was born here in 1789 and abandoned by his father when the mother died and the child was raised by relatives in Kentucky, would you change your opinion? Patrice (Fulton) Stark Lone Tree, Colorado

    03/05/2000 01:28:41
    1. Re: Fulton + Wynkoop (Pt 15)
    2. TheProctors
    3. Thanks Pat for your reminders... I did this research about 2 years ago and had not followed up about Mr. Tavenner's research since it wasn't my family. When I copied the marriage info, I asked the librarian if he was still alive and doing research (because there are so many volumes of his research in the library) and as I recall, she told me he was at that time. And she said he used court records, family bibles, etc., for his research, but I plan to find out for sure this coming week. If he still lives in Leesburg, I will call him re some of these questions. I will also see if I can find that original deed of Robert Fulton (d.1798). This is an interesting research project and since I live so close to the library, I will pursue some of the questions posed about these Fultons and see what I can find. It may take me a month or so before I can report back, but will give it my best effort! (P.S. - I live in Ashburn - not Auburn!ha - just a typo I know....) Carol (Fulton) Proctor ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrice Fulton Stark" <pstark@bouldernews.infi.net> To: <FULTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: March 05, 2000 12:48 PM Subject: Fulton + Wynkoop (Pt 15) > Continuing with the Fulton and Wynkoop family connections... > > Let's review the information we have regarding the Fulton families who were > living in Loudoun Co, VA, between 1765 and 1795. > > This Loudoun County "cluster" is a really good example of a typical Fulton > research dilemma. One man, Robert Fulton, leaves a Will (signed 1792) and he > is immediately assumed to be the father of everyone. > > You remember what ASSUME means, don't you? > > Over the years, many Fulton genealogists have traced their family back to > this general area, and have hit a brick wall. > > Nancy Pruter has been searching for the family of James Fulton who married > Elizabeth McGeorge, served in the War of 1812 at Loudoun Co., and died at > Fultonham, Ohio. > > David Fulton has been trying to prove that Robert Fulton (d 1798 in Loudoun > Co.) is the same man who married Eleanor Wynkoop in Philadelphia in 1755. > While it's a good theory -- no one has surfaced with any proof. (Yet!) > > Celia Snyder has been struggling with another 1755 marriage in Philadelphia, > at the same church, this one between David Fulton and Elisabeth Yerkes. What > is the connection to Anthony Yerkes? Is there a connection between Robert > and David Fulton? Is there a connection to the Middletons at Loudoun Co? Why > was Hester Fulton in Washington Co, VA, in 1803, when she married James > Beaty? > > Connie Balazac, Donna Price, and others, have been literally turning over > every Fulton rock in the land to identify the ancestry of Neal Fulton who > appears in Missouri territory and marries Lucy Harris. Donna recently found > a War of 1812 pay record for "Neale Fulton" in the 57th Regiment of Loudoun > Co, VA. Neal Fulton surfaces in Missouri in close proximity to James and > Hester (Fulton) Beatty. How does Neal fit in to the puzzle? > > Through a stroke of pure luck, and the tenacity of Cox family researcher, > Janelle Bennet, we know that Hugh Fulton of Loudoun County, is the ancestor > of geographically-separated Fultons in Georgia and Indiana. Is Hugh Fulton > who died in 1803 related to Robert Fulton who died in 1798? They both owned > land on the South Side of Catocktin Mountain. > > For well over 50 years, Loudoun County has represented a genealogical brick > wall. Why? > > 1) There are too many Roberts, Hughs, Davids, James, and Williams. > 2) There has been little information available. > 3) Earlier researchers have assumed too much. > 4) All of the above > > If you are new to genealogy research, save this message and read it again in > 10 years. It seems to take about 10 years of frustration before a hard-head > is ready to accept advice. (In my case, it took longer.) > > * * * * * > > "How do you KNOW that?" > > These are the five words you must ask yourself whenever you open your > genealogy notebook, or mouth. My mentor, Birdie Holsclaw of Longmont, > Colorado, is a lovely person who actually enjoys listening to my latest > genealogy puzzle. However, she has a maddening habit of interrupting me with > the same question, "How do you KNOW that?" > > For example, Fulton sleuth Carol Proctor of Auburn, Virginia, dashed over to > the Thomas Balch Library for History & Genealogy and copied Fulton > information from the "Charles Blair Tavenner Collection." (God bless you, > Carol!) She unearthed some great new facts pertaining to our Loudoun County > quest. > > 1) On 6 Feb 1776, Robert Fulton witnessed the Will of Henry Oxley of Loudoun > Co, VA. The Will was proved 13 Oct 1777 by "R. F. Fulton", Brittain Oxley > and Ann Oxley. > > 2) The estate of Robert Fulton (d 1798) was appraised by: Joseph Carr, John > Gibson, Dave Ceaches(?) and Joseph Gore. > > 3) On 29 Oct 1787, David Fulton married Rachel Smith. Robert Fulton attested > to the age of Rachel Smith. > > 4) A Robert Fulton, 1763-1841, is buried in the Leesburg Methodist Cemetery. > > 5) The Will of Robert Fulton, signed 4 July 1836, proved 10 May 1841, > identifies wife Mary, sons David Powell Fulton, Elisha Wynkoop Fulton, > Robert Massie Fulton, John Fulton, William Fulton, daughter-in-law Jane E. > Fulton, and grandchildren, not named. > > 6) On 9 Feb 1826, David Fulton married Phoebe Gibson. > > 7) On 13 March 1827, John Fulton married Jane Taylor. > > Even though I do not have the proper citations for these seven facts, this > information appears to come from public records and should be easy to > confirm. > > * * * * * > > The new facts are great. However, much of the Tavenner information screams > for clarification. "How do you KNOW that, Mr. Tavenner?" > > 1) "Regarding the Robert Fulton whose will was probated in 1798, he > [Tavenner] shows that Robert 'lived in PA until 1775'..." > > **Clearly, this is what we're all eager to prove, but "How do you KNOW > that?" How COULD you know that? > > (a) Does the original land entry state that Robert Fulton came from > Pennsylvania or obtained the land through a grant issued in Pennsylvania? > > (b) Is there a surviving family Bible maintained by a child of Robert Fulton > that states that father was born in Pennsylvania? > > (c) Is there any surviving correspondence written by a child, or even a > grandchild, that states they heard a family member say they lived in > Pennsylvania? > > (d) Can you prove that the near neighbors lived in Pennsylvania before > settling here as a group in Loudoun County? > > (e) Is there a church record showing the acceptance of this family from > another church in Pennsylvania? > > (f) Is there something else? > > Does Tavenner include any facts supporting his conclusion or, is he just > guessing like the rest of us? Fifty years of guessing has built a pretty > solid genealogical "brick wall" here in Loudoun Co, VA. > > Patrice (Fulton) Stark > Lone Tree, Colorado >

    03/05/2000 11:35:42
    1. Fulton + Wynkoop (Pt 15)
    2. Patrice Fulton Stark
    3. Continuing with the Fulton and Wynkoop family connections... Let's review the information we have regarding the Fulton families who were living in Loudoun Co, VA, between 1765 and 1795. This Loudoun County "cluster" is a really good example of a typical Fulton research dilemma. One man, Robert Fulton, leaves a Will (signed 1792) and he is immediately assumed to be the father of everyone. You remember what ASSUME means, don't you? Over the years, many Fulton genealogists have traced their family back to this general area, and have hit a brick wall. Nancy Pruter has been searching for the family of James Fulton who married Elizabeth McGeorge, served in the War of 1812 at Loudoun Co., and died at Fultonham, Ohio. David Fulton has been trying to prove that Robert Fulton (d 1798 in Loudoun Co.) is the same man who married Eleanor Wynkoop in Philadelphia in 1755. While it's a good theory -- no one has surfaced with any proof. (Yet!) Celia Snyder has been struggling with another 1755 marriage in Philadelphia, at the same church, this one between David Fulton and Elisabeth Yerkes. What is the connection to Anthony Yerkes? Is there a connection between Robert and David Fulton? Is there a connection to the Middletons at Loudoun Co? Why was Hester Fulton in Washington Co, VA, in 1803, when she married James Beaty? Connie Balazac, Donna Price, and others, have been literally turning over every Fulton rock in the land to identify the ancestry of Neal Fulton who appears in Missouri territory and marries Lucy Harris. Donna recently found a War of 1812 pay record for "Neale Fulton" in the 57th Regiment of Loudoun Co, VA. Neal Fulton surfaces in Missouri in close proximity to James and Hester (Fulton) Beatty. How does Neal fit in to the puzzle? Through a stroke of pure luck, and the tenacity of Cox family researcher, Janelle Bennet, we know that Hugh Fulton of Loudoun County, is the ancestor of geographically-separated Fultons in Georgia and Indiana. Is Hugh Fulton who died in 1803 related to Robert Fulton who died in 1798? They both owned land on the South Side of Catocktin Mountain. For well over 50 years, Loudoun County has represented a genealogical brick wall. Why? 1) There are too many Roberts, Hughs, Davids, James, and Williams. 2) There has been little information available. 3) Earlier researchers have assumed too much. 4) All of the above If you are new to genealogy research, save this message and read it again in 10 years. It seems to take about 10 years of frustration before a hard-head is ready to accept advice. (In my case, it took longer.) * * * * * "How do you KNOW that?" These are the five words you must ask yourself whenever you open your genealogy notebook, or mouth. My mentor, Birdie Holsclaw of Longmont, Colorado, is a lovely person who actually enjoys listening to my latest genealogy puzzle. However, she has a maddening habit of interrupting me with the same question, "How do you KNOW that?" For example, Fulton sleuth Carol Proctor of Auburn, Virginia, dashed over to the Thomas Balch Library for History & Genealogy and copied Fulton information from the "Charles Blair Tavenner Collection." (God bless you, Carol!) She unearthed some great new facts pertaining to our Loudoun County quest. 1) On 6 Feb 1776, Robert Fulton witnessed the Will of Henry Oxley of Loudoun Co, VA. The Will was proved 13 Oct 1777 by "R. F. Fulton", Brittain Oxley and Ann Oxley. 2) The estate of Robert Fulton (d 1798) was appraised by: Joseph Carr, John Gibson, Dave Ceaches(?) and Joseph Gore. 3) On 29 Oct 1787, David Fulton married Rachel Smith. Robert Fulton attested to the age of Rachel Smith. 4) A Robert Fulton, 1763-1841, is buried in the Leesburg Methodist Cemetery. 5) The Will of Robert Fulton, signed 4 July 1836, proved 10 May 1841, identifies wife Mary, sons David Powell Fulton, Elisha Wynkoop Fulton, Robert Massie Fulton, John Fulton, William Fulton, daughter-in-law Jane E. Fulton, and grandchildren, not named. 6) On 9 Feb 1826, David Fulton married Phoebe Gibson. 7) On 13 March 1827, John Fulton married Jane Taylor. Even though I do not have the proper citations for these seven facts, this information appears to come from public records and should be easy to confirm. * * * * * The new facts are great. However, much of the Tavenner information screams for clarification. "How do you KNOW that, Mr. Tavenner?" 1) "Regarding the Robert Fulton whose will was probated in 1798, he [Tavenner] shows that Robert 'lived in PA until 1775'..." **Clearly, this is what we're all eager to prove, but "How do you KNOW that?" How COULD you know that? (a) Does the original land entry state that Robert Fulton came from Pennsylvania or obtained the land through a grant issued in Pennsylvania? (b) Is there a surviving family Bible maintained by a child of Robert Fulton that states that father was born in Pennsylvania? (c) Is there any surviving correspondence written by a child, or even a grandchild, that states they heard a family member say they lived in Pennsylvania? (d) Can you prove that the near neighbors lived in Pennsylvania before settling here as a group in Loudoun County? (e) Is there a church record showing the acceptance of this family from another church in Pennsylvania? (f) Is there something else? Does Tavenner include any facts supporting his conclusion or, is he just guessing like the rest of us? Fifty years of guessing has built a pretty solid genealogical "brick wall" here in Loudoun Co, VA. Patrice (Fulton) Stark Lone Tree, Colorado

    03/05/2000 10:48:57
    1. Re: Calvin Fulton Obituary
    2. Pam
    3. Hello Group, Somehow I missed putting in my source. So sorry. This was found in the march 4,2000 Somerset Daily American Newspaper in Somerset County, Somerset, Pa.> >Death Notice of Calvin FultonAt 08:21 AM 03/04/2000 -0800, you wrote: >FULTON >Calvin L. Fulton, 59, of Lincoln Hwy., Central City, formerly of Arlington, >Va., died March 2, 2000 in Arlington. Born July 29,1940 in Jerome, son of >Eleanor >(Landis) Fulton of Central City and the late Charles "Tossie" Fulton. Also >preceded in death by his wife the former Nancy Alexander, and brother >Daine. Survived >by these children: Scott, Arlington, Va., and Stacey, Roanoke, Va. Brother >of Delaine Frazier, Schellsburg; Charles, Arlington, Va.; Galen, Central >City, and >Lonnie, Somerset. Graduate of Shanksville-Stonycreek High School. Served in >the U.S. Marine Corp. Retired after 32 years with Wonder Bread Bakery, >Arlington. Family will receive friends from 2 to 4 and 7 to 9 p.m. Sunday >at Deaner Funeral Home, Stoystown, where service will be held at 10 a.m. >Monday. Rev. >Paul E. Claycomb officiating. Interment Odd Fellows Cemetery, Stoystown. >

    03/05/2000 07:53:10
    1. Fulton + Yerkes (Pt1)
    2. Patrice Fulton Stark
    3. Harman Yerkes, b 15 Apr 1689 in the "Dutch Country" (probably Germany, possibly the Netherlands) died at the Manor of Moreland, Philadelphia County, Pennsylvania, 2 May 1750. He owned land on Pennypack Creek that was adjacent to Walter Moore. [Pennypack Creek flows through the Manor of Moreland and nearby Lower Dublin Township on its way to the Delaware River.] On 3 September 1770, Silas Yerkes and Stephen Yerkes, sons of Harman Yerkes, deceased, watched Walter Moore sign his Will. What's the Fulton connection? We know that a David Fulton was living in Lower Dublin Township as early as 1753, adjacent to Thomas Powell, Deceased. We also know that a David Fulton acquired land in Cheltenham as early as 1730 and this man advertised a runaway horse in 1756. (Is this one David Fulton or two?) I have a couple more pieces to ponder. On 17 Sept 1748, Elizabeth Fulton married William Standley at Christ Church in Philadelphia. (William Standley owned several tracts of land at the Manor of Moreland and is mentioned as a partner on at least one venture in the business ledgers of merchant James Fullton of Philadelphia.) On 30 Sept 1749, Eleanor Fulton "of the Manor of Moreland" witnessed the Will of Henry Carey. (Who's she? Who's he?) In August 1755, Robert Fulton married Eleanor "Nelly" Wynkoop at the Christ Church in Philadelphia. In October 1755, David Fulton married Elizabeth Yerkes at the same church. On 28 February 1760, merchant James Fullton married Mary Moore at the Manor of Moreland. (Diary of Rev. Cuthbertson) The following day, 29 February 1760, David Fulton witnessed the Will of William Murray of Mooreland Twp. (Noted by Herbert Leister in his analysis of the "Ledgers of Merchant James Fulton....") William Murray, may be the same man mentioned in the Pennsylvania Gazette, 23 April 1741: “William Murray, Taylor, two miles from Fletchermill, on the road between Philadelphia and Newtown, gives a penny a pound for linnen Rags.” In 1761/2, David Fulton married Helen Wynkoop (allegedly the younger sister of "Nelly") at the Abingdon Presbyterian Church northwest of the Manor of Moreland. Beginning in August, 1764, David Fulton, "miller of the Manor of Moreland" appears in the business ledgers of merchant James Fullton. It appears that David Fulton (which one?) took over the mill operation formerly owned by Walter Moore. Merchant James Fullton purchased flour from miller David Fulton of the Manor of Mooreland and there are numerous entries in Fullton’s ledgers regarding the miller including a tax payment entry for 1774. On 8 August 1776, David Fulton of the Manor of Moland [sic] appears on Revolutionary War Muster Roll. [Ref: National Register #687752 (probably DAR), photocopy of Muster Roll summary, “David Fulton, private, 2nd Battalion, Philadelphia County, Capt. Josiah Hart’s Company commanded by Robert Lewis, Colonel of the 2d Battalion of Philadelphia County in the Manor of Moland [sic]. Muster roll dated 8 August 1776. The entry is endorsed, “Ent’d July 24, - Sept. 11th - including 3 days - mileage from Trentown to Manor Moreland 20 Miles.”] * * * * * How many David Fultons were living at or near the Manor of Moreland in 1755? How many David Fultons were living there at the time of the Revolution? Why did some Fultons choose to marry at Christ Church in Philadelphia and others marry at Abingdon Presbyterian Church? And what, if anything, is the connection between Elizabeth, daughter of Anthony Yerkes of the Manor of Moreland, (1790) identified as the wife of David Fulton of Virginia? * * * * * In 1794, Mary Fulton married Adam Middleton at Berkeley Co, VA. In 1803, Hester Fulton married James Beatie at Washington Co, VA. Mary Fulton and Hester Fulton were sisters. Mary named one of her sons David Fulton Middleton. Hester named one of her daughters, Elizabeth Yerkes Beatie. Why? Patrice (Fulton) Stark Lone Tree, Colorado

    03/04/2000 04:31:26
    1. Death Notice of Calvin Fulton
    2. Pam
    3. Death Notice of Calvin FultonAt 08:21 AM 03/04/2000 -0800, you wrote: FULTON Calvin L. Fulton, 59, of Lincoln Hwy., Central City, formerly of Arlington, Va., died March 2, 2000 in Arlington. Born July 29,1940 in Jerome, son of Eleanor (Landis) Fulton of Central City and the late Charles "Tossie" Fulton. Also preceded in death by his wife the former Nancy Alexander, and brother Daine. Survived by these children: Scott, Arlington, Va., and Stacey, Roanoke, Va. Brother of Delaine Frazier, Schellsburg; Charles, Arlington, Va.; Galen, Central City, and Lonnie, Somerset. Graduate of Shanksville-Stonycreek High School. Served in the U.S. Marine Corp. Retired after 32 years with Wonder Bread Bakery, Arlington. Family will receive friends from 2 to 4 and 7 to 9 p.m. Sunday at Deaner Funeral Home, Stoystown, where service will be held at 10 a.m. Monday. Rev. Paul E. Claycomb officiating. Interment Odd Fellows Cemetery, Stoystown.

    03/04/2000 03:23:53
    1. Re: John C. "Jack" FULTON obituary
    2. Found the following obit from the Chicago Tribune, 1993. I copied it since the name is the same as my son, John C. Fulton. No relationship as far as I know. John C. FULTON Chicago - John C. "Jack" Fulton, 91, a tenor, trombone player and composer, died in his home Rancho Bernardo, Calif., Friday. Mr. Fulton performed with the Paul Whiteman Orchestra from 1925 to 1933, was a radio host on WBBM from 1935 to 1955 and wrote more than 120 songs, including the popular "Wanted," "Ivory Tower" and "If you Are But a Dream." A May 5, 1942, Chicago Sun article said about him, "Wherever you go and wherever there are musicians, somebody always says, 'And Jack Fulton! Isn't he a swell guy? What a voice!" Among the musicians who were his friends and supporters were Whiteman, Bing Crosby, Bix Biederbecke, the Dorseys, Red Nichols, Sophie Tucker and Roy Bargy. Mr. Fulton started as a singer and trombone player, but found that it was his voice that helped him reach the big time as a soloist with the Whiteman Orchestra. He came to Chicago in 1937 and began a radio career here that included co-hosting a program, "Poetic Melodies," with the late Franklyn MacCormack on CBS. During his career, he also performed in nightclubs, made commercials and, in 1948, directed the Chicago Theater Orchestra. The first song he composed was "My Greatest Mistake," which was a great success. He wrote "Make America Proud of You," which became the Boy Scouts of America's theme song. He donated the royalties for the first year, $5,000, to the Boy Scouts. His songs, written in the era before rock 'n' roll, emphasized sentiment, romance and love. Survivors include three sons, John, Richard and Tony; a daughter, Barbara Keating; 12 grandchildren; and eight great-grandchildren. A memorial service for Mr. Fulton will be held Friday in San Diego. Patricia M. Fulton e-mail: PattFulton@aol.com

    03/04/2000 03:18:16
    1. Fulton + Wynkoop (Pt 14)
    2. Patrice Fulton Stark
    3. Continuing with the Fulton & Wynkoop family connections... Here is my Abstract of a COPY of the recorded Will of David Fulton of Ulster County, New York. No, I'm not joking. This abstract (my best effort) is made from a photocopy of a hand-written COPY of the original record of this Will. [It's a copy of a copy!!] From the notes at the top, I can see that Roberta Hirth obtained this photocopy at "31 Chambers St. NYC 12-26-95." (Thanks Roberta!) * * * * * Will of David Fulton of Ulster County, NY, 1770 Record of Wills, Liber 27, page 443-445 (pages 416-418 in the Old Liber) "...David Fulton of the Precinct of New Windsor ... County of Ulster and Province of New York Yeoman.... First ... Wife Ann Fulton ... eight Pounds every year during her Life.... Secondly ... my Daughter Jene Harris Forty Pounds.... 3rdly ... my loveing son Alexander Fulton ... Forty Pounds.... Fourthly ... Granson Thomas Fulton son of my son David Fulton ... Five Pounds.... Fifthly ... son John Fulton ... ten Pounds ... my wearing Apparel.... Sixthly ... son Hugh Fulton ... foure Pounds which sd sum of foure Pounds I give him as his wright of heirsship ... Grandson David Fulton ... Ten Pounds which David Fulton is son of my son Hugh Fulton ... my Grandaughter Ann Fulton daughter of Hugh Fulton ... three Pounds.... ...one half of the moneys bequethed ... be paid by my Execeturs after my Death as soon as conveniently may be and the other half to be put out on Intrust till after my Wife's Death..... Seventhly ... to my well beloved brother James Fulton ... Thirty Pounds ... well Beloved Sister Hannah Fulton ... ten Pounds ... to the Care of Samuel Lowden and Alexander Wilson of New York to be sent in Hogsed staves or Flaxseed or Cash ... to be directed to Robert Gwing in Coldrain Kingdom of Ierland. Eighthly ... Daughter Ann Patten [sic] ... six Pounds ... after my decease as soon as conveniently can be.... ...should not I myself sign a Deed of sale to John Deen for my Land while I live that upon his fully complying and fullfilling the agreement he made with me that my Executors do make him a Deed for the same.... Lastly ... my trusty friends Mathew McDowel of Ulster County and prescinct of New Windsor and Province aforesaid and Jonathan Brooks of Orange County and Prescinct of Cornwall and Province aforesaid as Executors.... ... thirteenth day of June ... one thousand seven hundred and seventy. David Fulton /-X-/ his mark (LS) Signed ... in the presents of us ... Witnesses thereto. John Dean Beriah Palmer Jacob Devo. City of New York ... ninth day of November one thousand seven hundred and seventy personally came ... before me John Bowles thereunto duly authorized Jacob Devo Farmer and John Dean Farmer both of Ulster County ... did see David Fulton make his hand mark to and seal the within written Instrument ... saw Beriah Palmer the other Witness ... subscribe his Name.... John Bowles ... John Earl of Dunmore Captain General and Governor in Chief in and over the Province of New York ... Administration ... is granted unto Jonathan Brooks one of the Executors ... Ninth day of November one thousand seven hundred and seventy. Grv. Banyar Dfecry [sic]" * * * * * *Note 1: there is some indication that the name of daughter Ann "Patten" was misinterpreted by the copyist and may actually be Ann "Totten". *Note 2: "Grv. Banyar Dfecry" is very clear in this copy. I have no idea what this means. * * * * * Synopsis: David Fulton, Yeoman, resident of New Windsor, Ulster County, New York, died between 13 June and 9 November 1770. He provided for his widow, Ann (-?-) Fulton, who was to receive 8 Pounds a year for the rest of her life. Children (named in this order): (1) Jene (Fulton) Harris, alive in 1770 (2) Alexander Fulton, alive in 1770 (3) David Fulton, d bef 1770 -- no "wright of heirsship!" a) Thomas Fulton, alive in 1770 (4) John Fulton, alive in 1770 (5) Hugh Fulton, alive in 1770, L4 as "wright of heirsship" a) David Fulton, alive in 1770 b) Ann Fulton, alive in 1770 (6) Ann (Fulton) Patten/Totten? Brother James Fulton, alive, probably living nearby Sister Hanah Fulton, alive, living in Colerain, Ireland * * * * * Discussion: How old was David Fulton when he died? It appears that all of his children were of age (over 21) and we know that he was a grandfather several times over in 1770. Assume that the youngest child was born before 1750 and that there is 2 years between each child, suggests that the first of the six named children was born before 1738 and David Fulton was born before 1718. 52 years old? That's about as young as he could be -- he could also be 30 years older. Let's say David Fulton was born between 1688-1718, probably in the Kingdom of Ireland, possibly near Coleraine where his sister lived in 1770. 1688 and 1718 are very significant dates in Ulster, Northern Ireland. The Siege of Londonderry occurred in 1688 and in 1718, the land leases expired. 1718 is the date when the first wave of Presbyterians left Ulster for North America. What do we know about the children of David Fulton? First of all, it's curious that none of the sons received land. John Deen/Dean must have made a very good offer. Where was the widow to live after David's death? It doesn't appear that this family depended upon land for their income. Jene (Jean/Jane) (Fulton) Harris, received 40 Pounds -- a good sum. We do not know the name of her husband or whether he is alive in 1770. Alexander Fulton also received 40 Pounds -- a good sum. These two children, Jean and Alexander, received significantly more than the others. Why? Were they the youngest? Were they the children of widow Ann? Lots of possibilities. Was Alexander Fulton married? Can't tell by this document. David Fulton [Jr] -- not a shilling, I suspect he's dead. (Or else, Dad was really ticked at him.) This David Fulton married and fathered at least one child before 1770 (possibly more). Grandson Thomas Fulton, son of David [Jr], 5 Pounds. John Fulton, 10 Pounds and Dad's clothes. Was this a good deal? (It depends on the clothes, I guess.) Was John Fulton married? Can't tell by this document. Hugh Fulton, 4 Pounds "I give him as his wright of heirsship" and then he gives 10 Pounds to Hugh's son, David, and 3 Pounds to Hugh's daughter, Ann. I think this bequest expresses David's displeasure with Hugh. We should be able to find a Hugh Fulton living in 1770 with a son David and a daughter Ann. The Will is interesting because David Fulton gives all kinds of directions about these 5 children, how they should get 1/2 of their money when the father dies and the balance after the mother dies. He then describes in detail how the widow should be paid first and the children second and, in case there isn't enough money, there is to be a proportional distribution to these children, and if there is excess money, how that should be distributed, and what to do when the widow dies. Then he gives generous gifts to his brother James Fulton (presumably living in North America) and his sister living in Ireland with details regarding who in New York City should handle this legacy to his sister, and how it should be delivered. And then, after all that instruction, David Fulton adds, "Eighthly ... Daughter Ann ... six Pounds...." Why is Ann mentioned after all of this? Did he mean to disown her and have a change of heart? Is she an afterthought? She gets L6, ranked between John with the clothes (L10) and bad-boy Hugh (L4). About all we know for sure, daughter Ann is alive in 1770. How did David Fulton of Ulster Co, NY, earn his living? Where did he live? He makes no reference to a residence for his widow and he sells his land to John Deen. What do these Fultons do for income? * * * * * That's a start. We know that in 1790, in New Windsor, Ulster County, NY, there was a widow Elizabeth Fulton, with two males under 16, living next door to William Fulton. We followed this trio to Ontario Co, NY. Just to keep us on our toes, Ulster and Orange Counties changed (gerrymandered?) their boundaries just before 1800. The area known as New Windsor, originally part of Ulster County, was redefined as part of Orange County. In 1800, a Thomas Fulton, born in 1763, reportedly the son of Thomas and Jemima (Frost) Fulton, was living in New Windsor, Orange County, NY. What's his connection to this group? As I see it, he could be connected to: a) Alexander Fulton, alive in 1770 b) Grandson Thomas Fulton, alive in 1770 c) John Fulton, alive in 1770 d) Hugh Fulton, alive in 1770 e) Brother James Fulton, alive in 1770 f) none of the above * * * * * We know that the Wynkoop family lived near Kingston, New York, BEFORE moving to the Manor of Moreland (1717). There just has to be a connection, doesn't there? Patrice (Fulton) Stark Lone Tree, Colorado

    03/04/2000 01:29:27
    1. Fulton + Wynkoop (Pt 13)
    2. Patrice Fulton Stark
    3. Continuing with the Fulton & Wynkoop family connections... Yes, Roberta. This is getting very interesting, indeed! I notice that my last two installments (Pts 11 and 12) focused more on the surname Yerkes than Wynkoop. I have received so much new information that I'm going to start another thread for the Fulton/Yerkes connections. "Fulton + Wynkoop" This thread will continue with the Fulton & Wynkoop connections identified in New York, Pennsylvania, and Kentucky. (Yes, Kentucky, too.) "Fulton + Yerkes" This new thread will start with the Fultons of Shelby Co, KY and work backwards in an effort to identify their ancestors. So far, we've identified four Fulton families in Shelby County, KY: (1) James and Winifred (Hays) Fulton (2) David & Nancy (-?-) Fulton, (3) orphan children of James and Hester (Fulton) Baitie/Beaty raised by their aunt (4) Mary (Fulton) Middleton, wife of Adam Middleton. Are James, David, Hester, and Mary Fulton related? That's the first question. Can we prove it? That's an even better question. [Look for "Fulton + Yerkes (Pt 1)" for this new discussion.] * * * * * Fulton + Wynkoop (Pt 13) * * * * * "It's a gift to be simple, it's a gift to be free..." If you listen real close, you can hear me singing that old Shaker tune. You've heard the tune in commercials and you may even own some "Shaker-style" furniture, but did you know that Anna Fulton was an early member of the Shakers? Yes, I've been collecting way too much Fulton trivia. The Shakers, the United Society of Believers in Christ's Second Coming, were a religious sect that first appeared about 1750 in Great Britain. This sect is described as a group of seceders from the Society of Friends ("Quakers"). In 1774, Ann Lee, of Manchester, England, introduced the sect in the United States, establishing the first community at Watervliet, New York, in 1776. She was called "Mother Ann" by her followers who regarded her as a female counterpart of Jesus Christ. [I didn't make this up -- see "The Shakers", Encarta Encyclopedia '99] By 1826, 18 Shaker communities existed here in the United States. "These communities held property in common, practiced asceticism, and honored celibacy above marriage." It was that last part that doomed the movement. Elisha and Anna (Fulton) Thomas were early members of the Shaker Community "Shakertown" located near Harrodsburg, Mercer Co, Kentucky. They appear to have joined the sect in 1805, after the birth of their seven children. Elisha and Anna (Fulton) Thomas Correspondent Bill Denney of Seattle, Washington, is to the Denney family what I am to the Fulton family -- a single-surname genealogy hobbyist who has run amuck with computerized information. (Bill has an excuse; he works for Microsoft Corporation.) Bill Denney is the source for the following information. Elisha Thomas was the son of Morris and Mary (-?-) Thomas of Bucks Co, Pennsylvania. [Bucks County is adjacent to the Manor of Moreland.] Two of Elisha's sisters married sons of David Denny of Winchester, Frederick Co, VA. (1) Rachel Thomas married Robert Denny and (2) Elizabeth Thomas married Samuel Denny. All three families settled near Harrodsburg, Kentucky territory, before 1790. 1. Rachel Thomas, b ca 1758, married 14 May 1778 at Winchester, Frederick Co., VA, Robert Denny, son of David Denny. She died 12 November 1808 at Mercer Co., KY, and is buried in the Shawnee Run Baptist Church Cemetery. Children of Robert and Rachel (Thomas) Denny: a. David Denny, b 1783. b. Elisha Thomas Denny, b 1784. c. Samuel Denny, b 1786. d. Joseph Denny, b 1788. e. William R. Denny, b 1790. f. John Denny, b 1793. g. Mary Thomas Denny, b 1795. h. James Denny, b 1798. i. Sarah Morris Denny, b 1799. [Morris or Marrs?] 2. Elizabeth Thomas, m Samuel Denny, son of David Denny. Samuel Denny sold his land in Frederick Co., VA in 1789 and moved west to join his brother, Robert Denny. Samuel and Elizabeth did not have any children but raised 13 orphans. They sold their land at Shawnee Run in Mercer Co., KY, in 1814, and moved to Washington Co., Indiana. In 1826, Samuel and Elizabeth (Thomas) Denny moved to Warren Township, Putnam Co., Indiana, where she died followed by her husband on 4 July 1843. Both are buried at the Deer Creek Baptist Church. 3. Elisha Thomas, born 25 September 1762 in Bucks Co., PA; died 5 October 1838 at Pleasant Hill “Shakertown”, Mercer Co., KY. He married before 1784 Anna Fulton, born circa 1765; died 15 July 1823 at Pleasant Hill, “Shakertown”, Mercer Co., KY. In 1781, Elisha Thomas volunteered in Hampshire County, Virginia, for military service as a spy and pilot during the Revolution. He claimed he was present at Yorktown when Cornwallis was captured. Elisha and Anna (Fulton) Thomas, along with three children, moved to Mercer Co., KY, in 1787. They purchased a 140 acre tract of land on both sides of Shawnee Run which adjoined the land of his sisters, surname Denny. [See #1 and #2 above.] Elisha and Anna were the parents of seven children, all born before 1805. In 1805, Elisha Thomas “confessed his sins” and was converted to the Society of Believers in Mercer County, Kentucky. This was the beginning of “Shakertown.” Children of Elisha and Anna (Fulton) Thomas: a. Elizabeth Thomas m ca 1805 Cornelius Banta b. Thankful Thomas c. Eunice "Jinny" Thomas d. Ursula "Sally" Thomas e. Anna Thomas f. Morris Thomas g. Martha "Patsy" Thomas Notice that their eldest daughter, Elizabeth, married Cornelius Banta. Banta is a distinctive name connected to the "Low Dutch" settlement at Harrodsburg, Mercer Co, KY. The Bantas are directly connected to Kingston, New York, home of the Wynkoops, another "Low Dutch" family. That's not the only Banta connection. In 1808, Samuel Fulton of Carlisle, Nicholas Co, KY, married Margaret Banta, daughter of Henry Banta [Sr]. I find another note (undocumented, sorry) suggesting that Henry Banta, son of Henry Banta [Sr], married Jenny Fulton. It certainly appears that I've identified a handful of Fultons living out in the middle of Kentucky (Mercer and Nicholas Counties) with possible ties to the "Low Dutch" (Bantas/Wynkoops) of Kingston, New York, and ties to some Baptists (Thomas) living at Bucks County, which is adjacent to the Manor of Moreland, Philadelphia County, Pennsylvania ... deep breath ... which is where we started on this Fulton + Wynkoop story. And there's more. Patrice (Fulton) Stark Lone Tree, Colorado P.S. Roberta? Florence? -- where is Watervliet, New York?

    03/04/2000 12:13:39
    1. NEAT STUFF!!
    2. nan and arnold sommer
    3. Hi Gang. I just discovered the greatest bookstore. Y'all probably know about it, however I just found it. Willow Bend Books & Family Line Publications. 800-876-6103 Home Page and Contents (lots on lancaster and Chester cty's PA. Go To http://willowbend.net Arnold Sommer

    03/03/2000 04:10:23
    1. Death Notice
    2. The news clipping quoted in the folowing was sent to me in jest due to the simuliarity of names. This family is not in my line but I offer the data to whomever may find it useful. Quote: From the "Delaware County Times"Monday, January 18 1999 "James L. Fulton,71, of Tobyhanna, Pa. died Jan. 16 at Shore Memorial Hospital in Somers Point, N. J. Formerly of Springfield, Mr. Fulton was a captain in the merchant marine. Hewas a merchant seaman twice, originally at the age of 17, which was interupted by a series of stateside careers, and thenagain at 40, when he rapidly climed the ranks to sship's master. He received national recognition in the1980s when selected as the first captainof the new supertanker UST Atlantic, then the largest ship built in the western hemisphere. "He was life member and past president of Pocono Farms Country Club and Community Association, where he resided since his 1986 retirement. He was also a member of St An RomanCatholic Church in Tobyhanna. "Born in Oxford, Pa., he was the son of the late Dorothy Delany Fulton and James F. Fulton. "Survivors: Amelia L. "Amy" Martino Fulton; sons, J. Lee Fultonof Springfield, Glen Fulton of New Tripoli, Pa.; daughter, Veronica Murphy of West Chester, Pa.;seven grandchildren. "Mass: 11 a.m. Wednesday, St.. Francis of Assisi Church, Rolling Road and Saxer Avenue, Springfield. "Visitation: 10 a.m. at the church "Burial: Private. "Contributions: St Ann Roman Catholic Church, Main Street, Tobyhanna, PA 18466" In hopes someone may find this helpful. The fact this man was born in Oxford suggusts he may be descended from the same line as Hugh Ramsey Fulton. James L. Fulton-----------of Sterling VA

    03/03/2000 09:57:11
    1. Fulton/Wynkoop - Loudoun Co., VA
    2. TheProctors
    3. Since I live in Loudoun Co., VA (7 miles from Leesburg), I have had occasion to do some research for a number of people at the court house and at our genealogy library (The Thomas Balch Library for History & Genealogy). A member of the Loudoun County Genealogy Club has been doing research, for a number of years, on the various names of early settlers in Loudoun Co. He uses court records, family bibles, cemeteries, etc. He has donated his research to the Balch Library as the "Charles Blair Tavenner Collections". In his Collection - "Marriages in Loudoun County -FA through FU", he shows 66 marriages under "Fulton family", and has shown family connections where he found records to support his information. Regarding the Robert Fulton whose will was probated in 1798, he shows that Robert "lived in PA until 1775" (he did not show a wife's name, but showed that he lived in the Shelbourne Parish of Loudoun Co. In another book of will abstracts, it shows that a Robert Fulton witnessed the will of Henry Oxley of Loudoun Co., VA, on February 6, 1776 and was proven at court in Loudoun Co. October 13, 1777 by R.F. Fulton, Brittain Oxley and Ann Oxley. I have a copy of his will and inventory. This Robert also was shown as "security" for the marriage of David Fulton (c. 1771-1823) & Rachel Smith October 29, 1787 and Robert "attested to the age of Rachel" [and identified by Mr. Tavenner as the son of Robert Fulton (1798)]. David & Rachel Fulton had a son Robert S. Fulton, m. (1) 1822 Sara E. Gore and (2) 1830 Tracey (Humphries) Daniel. An appraisal of the estate of Robert Fulton (1798) was made on Nov. 29, 1798 by: Joseph Carr, John Gibson, Dave Ceaches(?) and Joseph Gore. David paid "tithe in Shelbourn Parish" 1775; was a grantee 1792 Jefferies Br. (?). David & Rachel (Smith) Fulton had a son David who married Feb. 9, 1826 Phoebe Gibson. There is another marriage recorded for a David Fulton who married in 1821 Jane Carr. [Note that J. Carr, J. Gibson and J. Gore were all named in the appraisal report for the estate of Robert Fulton (1798) - possibly the fathers of Jane Carr, Phoebe Gibson and Sara E. Gore (??) Another Robert Fulton, (identified on the marriage records of Mr. Tavenner --no birth or death date) m. Sarah Powell in 1792 (dau. to Elisha Powell). Yet another Robert Fulton marriage (identified by Mr. Tavenner), shows "(1763-1841) [son to James Fulton-grandson of Robert Fulton - will 1798], buried in Leesburg Methodist Cem., m. Hannah (??) (no date)". In the will of this Robert Fulton, written July 4, 1836, proven in court May 10, 1841, he does not mention the name of his first wife (Hannah ??), but identifies his "beloved second wife, Mary". He mentions sons in his will - David Powell, Elisha Wynkoop, Robert Massie, John (who m. Jane Taylor March 13, 1827), William (who m. in 1859 Mary J. Elgin), daughter-in-law Jane E. Fulton, and grandchildren. I believe Pat Stark discussed the particulars of this will. [James Fulton mentioned above - his will written Sept. 1, 1861, proven Dec. 9, 1872, appears in WB2X, p. 414, and his inventory in WB 2Y, p. 199 (presented to court June 21, 1873) - he mentions that his land adjoined that of Margaret Fulton, Robert Friday and William Fawley and identifies his wife as "Sarah Fulton", appointed his son John H. Fulton as his Administrator, witnessed by James T. Fry and Joseph Furr. James Fulton states in his will that "my administrator shall take into possession a certain piece of land supposed to be 30 acres that I hold by possession and paying tax for many years which will more fully appear by receipts that which land belonged to heirs in the South if living; that whatever interest I may have in said land be used for the benefit of my children, that no trespass be allowed". He does not name his other children in the will. This James Fulton is identified by Mr. Tavenner (in the marriage records) as being the son of Hugh Fulton and Susannah Lybough. In the Loudoun Co. Cemetery Record book E-J, (published by the Loudoun Co. Genealogy Club Sept. 7, 1993) there is an "Ebenezer Cemetery (new) near Round Hill, page 26 (about 7 miles west of Leesburg), there are quite a few Wynkoop family members buried in this cemetery, also several "Allder" members. In the Grove Methodist Cemetery, Grove Methodist Meeting House (between Rt. 704 and 769 near Hamilton & Woodburn, VA), there are several Powell members and 2 Wynkoop members buried there. A Sarah J. Powell, is shown as the daughter of Jos. & E. Lacock. I hope this additional info on the Fultons of Loudoun Co. is helpful to someone and is not confusing. I have more info but I believe most of it has been discussed by Pat Stark and Roberta Hirth. If anyone on the list needs a copy of a will or other info. that I can obtain from the Loudoun Co. court, or the Balch Library, please e-mail me and I will see what I can locate for you. Carol (Fulton) Proctor

    03/02/2000 11:08:02
    1. [Fwd: {not a subscriber} ancesters.]
    2. Roberta (Fulton) Hirth
    3. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: {not a subscriber} ancesters. Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 16:21:25 -0800 (PST) From: Phyllis Ketcham <ketchk@netins.net> Reply-To: ketchk@netins.net Organization: The Ketchams To: FULTON-L@rootsweb.com Looking for connections to Robert Cyrus Fulton, b April 10, 1818 in Washington Co.Ohio. He married Eliza Jane Wiley Born on December 28, 1827. Looking for more information.. One, Chrales Agustus Fulton was my grandfather...born in 16 Aug 1865.. There were around 8 children born to the marriage...Wondering where Robert Cyrus came from? Thanks for any information, Phyllis Fulton.Ketcham

    02/27/2000 06:10:57
    1. Ann Fulton b 1819 m Samual McBath 1841 Boston > Waddington, NY
    2. Roberta (Fulton) Hirth
    3. Peggy Armstrong asked me to put this query on our list. Roberta ******************************************************************* Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 23:38:07 -0600 From: "peggya" <peggya@ott.net> ..... Here is what I am looking for: Ann Fulton married Samuel McBath in 1841. Ann was born in 1819. She had previously lived in Ireland with her father, Thomas Fulton, who was a widower. He migrated to Boston with his 4 children: Ann, Elizabeth, Thomas and Robert. Elizabeth married James Holmes and lived in Westbora. Mass. as did her brother Thomas. Robert Stayed in Boston and became a well-to-do manufacturer of cutlery (firm name Fulton & Moran). Ann's father lived with her and her husband until his death. Samuel McBath and Ann Fulton McBath had four children while living in Boston. They were: Thomas b. 21 April 1842 d. 27 Jan 1933 Robert Fulton b. 2 Nov 1844 d. 22 Sep 1915 Mary b. 1849 d. 21 Aug 1919 Samuel b. 10 Jan. 1850 d.28 Aug 1920 In 1853 Samuel purchased land located on the St.. Lawrence River in the townships of Lisbon and Waddington, NY. They later had another son, William John b.Sep 1859 d. 1933. Ann Fulton McBath died on June 30, 1880 at the age of 61 yrs. Samuel died on Feb 20, 1887 at the age of 70. Their graves are located in the Union Cemetery, Van Rensselaer Road (about four miles from the village of Waddington, NY. Their daughter Mary is also buried in this cemetery. Maybe this will help you to located any information you might have on Ann Fulton. I know I have a bit considering, but I am still looking for wedding date and place, plus her birth date and place and anything on her parents that can be found. As to relationship, he is a brother to my great-great grandfather, Thomas McBath. Thank you for any assistance, and Thanks even if you can't help at this time. Peggy Armstrong peggya@ott.net

    02/22/2000 07:54:23
    1. Transcripts, Abstracts & Other Caveats...
    2. Patrice Fulton Stark
    3. Here's some information that will either advance your Fulton research or cause you to throw your hands up in disgust. What is the difference between a Transcript and an Abstract? Or, is it real or is it Memorex? As Roberta and the rest of us are struggling with the bits and pieces of Fulton information copied from the records of New York, Pennsylvania, and Kentucky, the question of reliability of transcripts, abstracts, and other genealogy sources is becoming increasingly important. TRANSCRIPTS A transcript is supposed to be a complete and accurate duplicate of the original record. A transcript should include misspelled words, abbreviations, capitalization and all punctuation found in the original. If the dates in the original seem contradictory, the transcriber should write [sic] after the information to alert the reader that, while contradictory, the information is copied exactly as shown on the original. Unfortunately, we have found many cases where "transcripts" have been 'cleaned up' by well-meaning copyists. If you find yourself preparing a transcript of a Will, or any other document, and if you cannot read certain words or phrases, you should write exactly what you can decipher and estimate the number of letters and words you cannot. Don't try to guess what is on the page, or what is missing, and don't correct the spelling of the original. For example, if you cannot read some of the letters or words, write the following: "...my dear?? ???ved wife, Le"""ia..." When we were looking at the Fultons of Ontario County, NY, I presented information found in the "transcript" of Rev. Colin McFarquahr's Catechism Roll, 1776, published in Egle's Notes & Queries back in the 1880s. I pointed out that family No. 99, "JOSEPH FULTON" was probably an error. No man named JOSEPH Fulton appears on the surviving tax records for Donegal Township for this period. However, a JAMES Fulton did pay taxes from 1759 until 1783. The early script abbreviation for James was "Jas" with the "as" written as a superscript above the line. The early abbreviation for Joseph was "Jos" with the "os" written above the line. It appears that either the tax collector had poor hand-writing (Jos looked like Jas) or, a well-meaning transcriber 'cleaned up the information' and inserted "JOSEPH" for the abbreviation. It was a good guess but, in light of the evidence, appears to be absolutely wrong and has not helped later Fulton family searchers. ABSTRACTS An abstract, on the other hand, is a short version of the original document. Abstracts were created by court clerks as an early method of indexing voluminous court records. Technically, an abstract may omit words but cannot rearrange or change any of the content. All punctuation, capitalization and spelling that is contained in the abstract should be copied exactly as found in the original document. For example, assume a Will begins: "In the Name of God Amen, I john Fulton, yeoman, resident of Marion county in the State of Illinois, ...." A correct abstract of this Will would begin: "... john Fulton, yeoman, ... Marion county ...Illinois...." Note that the capitalization should match the original record. Even though it is tempting, don't 'clean up' anything. Please. COMMON TRANSCRIPTION AND ABSTRACT ERRORS The most common error is the error of omission. A sentence is simply skipped; a name is left out. The "Chronicles of the Scotch-Irish" compiled by Judge Lyman Chalkley is a classic example of omissions. For example, the abstract of the Will of David Fulton of Grayson County, Virginia, omits two of the nine children in the actual will. (Of course, my ancestor William Fulton, was omitted.) Even worse, the entire Will of William Fulton of Augusta County is omitted, an error that may be attributed to Judge Chalkley or to the typesetter who prepared his manuscript for publication. IDENTIFYING COPIES Another maddening problem is obtaining what you believe is an "original record" and discovering that it is actually a copy. This is more common than you may expect. I ordered a microfilm of the original marriage records of Grayson County, Virginia. The entries are hand-written. It really looks authentic. However, when I looked closer at my Fulton information ("William Fulton married Lucy Jones") I discovered that 23 names were duplicated. How could that happen? Easy, the copyist walked away from the original document and a breeze caused the page to turn back and the copyist sat down and duplicated the entire page. I was happy to find this duplication because it proved that the "original" was not original marriage record, but a copy of some earlier document. This information helped me prove that William Fulton did NOT marry LUCY Jones -- rather he married Seny Jones, a name the transcriber couldn't decipher. The Bible of Abner Jones proves that his daughter Seny married William Fulton on the date shown in the "Marriages of Grayson County." But what about the page that is omitted because the breeze blew the other way? That page is lost forever. (And, according to Murphy's Law, contains YOUR Fulton ancestor.) TWO VERY REAL AND DISTURBING STORIES You are not going to like these examples. Read on, only if you have a strong stomach. ***Duplicate Will Books?*** Through a bizarre turn of events, Jeff Miller, Jim Fulton and I discovered that there are two sets of Will Books at Chester County, Pennsylvania. One is a copy of the other. Both are hand-written and both records are identified by Chester County as the original Will Book. We proved the existence of the two sets of Will Books through photocopies. In 1989, James L. Fulton, Jr. of Arizona, sent me his photocopy of the Will of James Keys obtained at the Chester County courthouse. In 1995, Jeff Miller sent me his photocopy of the Will of James Keys as sent to him from the Chester County courthouse. However, the Jeff Miller copy omits a name contained in the Jim Fulton copy. How could this happen? One must be a copy of the other. James Keys of West Caln Twp, signed his Will on 7 December 1770 and wrote a codicil dated 18 December 1770. The Will was proved 9 June 1772. The omission appears in the codicil. In one "transcript" the codicil names son John Keys, daughter Jennet Keys, and grand children James Clark and John Fulton. In the other "transcript" the codicil names son John Keys, daughter Jennet Keys, and grand children "James and John Fulton." A signficant error if you're trying to piece together a Fulton family! (Or, in this case, a Clark family.) ***Completely False Family Information?*** As a final example of Genealogy Caveats, I have to share this tale of Fulton woe. In 1981, the Guilford County Genealogical Society published the "Abstracts of Marriage Bonds & Additional Data, Guilford Co., NC, 1791-1840" compiled by Ruth F. Thompson and Louise J. Hartgrove. As far as I can tell, the abstracts of the marriage bonds are accurate, however the "additional data" that the well-meaning authors inserted is maddening. After abstracting so many marriages, the authors became pretty familiar with the families living in Guilford County and obviously felt confident about the [bracketed notes] they inserted next to certain marriages. Unfortunately, later readers think the [bracketed notes] were somehow found in the marriage records. On 28 March 1833, Thomas Fulton married Rachel Sillivan. Authors Thompson and Hartgrove incorrectly assumed that this Thomas Fulton was the son Thomas Fulton named in the 1820 Will of Samuel Fulton of Guilford County and inserted this information in the "Marriage Abstracts". Because Samuel Fulton did not appoint guardians to any of the children named in his Will, we know that all of his children were "of age" (over 21) in 1820. A quick check of the US Census for Guilford County shows that Thomas Fulton, with wife Rachel, was born in 1810. Therefore, he cannot possibly be the son named in the Will of Samuel Fulton. LESSONS TO BE LEARNED When copying any document, be a good Scout, "do your best." Don't clean up the record. Try to be as faithful as possible and, when in doubt, tell the reader. When looking for your Fulton ancestors, don't give up. Understand that "abstracts" contain omissions. Keep looking for other sources of information. When relying on any document, be sure to note the source of the information. It's possible that you are not really looking at what you think. You may be reading a copy of a copy. When you find that your genealogy simply hits dead-ends, reconsider all of your sources. There are a lot of descendants of Thomas and Rachel (Sillivan) Fulton that cannot find their Fulton ancestors. They still believe what they read in the "Marriage Abstracts" published by the Guilford County Genealogical Society. Wouldn't you? Never give up! Patrice (Fulton) Stark Lone Tree, Colorado

    02/20/2000 06:28:58
    1. Fulton + Wynkoop (Pt12)
    2. Patrice Fulton Stark
    3. Continuing with the Fulton & Wynkoop family connections... Errata! (Apologies to Celia Snyder!) I have confused two distinct "Hester Fultons!" The first? Hester Fulton, identified in the 1904 Yerkes genealogy, sister to Robert Fulton and Mary (Fulton) Middleton. She married 13 January 1803 at Washington Co, VA, James Beattie, son of Capt. David and Mary (Beattie) Beattie. James Beattie was born ca 1783 at Washington County, VA, and died 1821 at Boone Co, Missouri, near Jefferson City. The second Hester Fulton, named in the 1835 will of David Fulton, is probably the woman who married 2 October 1832 James M. Fry at Shelby Co, KY. >From Mrs. March: "David FULTON made his will on the 20th day of March 1835 and said he was of the County of Shelby, State of Kentucky. He left his farm to his son Anthony and asked that Anthony care for his wife Nancy and for his youngest daughter, Sarah Jane as long as she was unmarried. (I descend from Sarah Jane who married Andrew DUNCAN in June 1837.) He also willed money and/or property to his daughter Eliza BLACKMORE, daughter Maria and son John. He mentioned he already had provided for his sons Robert, James and William and his daughter Hester. The witnesses to this will were John D. BARKETT (or BACKETT) and James FIGG Jr. The will was entered for probate in the October term of Court in Shelby County in 1836, and Anthony FULTON was appointed executor." Sorry for the confusion. PFS --------------------------- David Fulton who died in Shelby County, KY, in 1836, does not appear on the 1830 US Census index for Shelby County. Perhaps he didn't live there in 1830? Perhaps he lived in southwest Virginia, Washington or Wythe County, in 1830? Near Robert Rankin. After all, David and Nancy sent son William back to the area in 1834 to settle affairs. --------------------------- Here's more about David and Nancy (-?-) Fulton "of Shelby County": Abstract of Power of Attorney signed 6 October 1834 by David and Nancy Fulton of Shelby County, Kentucky, and recorded at WISE County, Virginia [which was organized from Wythe County]: >From a photocopy of pages 738 and 739 obtained in 1993 by E. M. Fulton Jr. at the WISE County Courthouse: "...David Fulton and Nancy his wife...nominate & appoint William Fulton our son all of the County of Shelby in Kentucky to be our agent...bargain sell & convey rent out & lease to any person or persons...land that may be or hath descended to us from the estate of Robert Rankin decd which lies in Withe & some adjoining County in the State of Virginia." This document was signed by David Fulton (seal) and Nancy Fulton (seal) on "6th day of October 1834". James S. Whitaker, clerk of Shelby County recorded the document the following day, 7 October 1834. Finally, "Virginia: At a Court continued and held for Wythe County at the Courthouse on Tuesday the 11 day of November 1834. This power of attorney was returned to Court and with the certificates of acknowledgment privy examination and authentication annexed ordered to be recorded. Teste J. P. Mathews CC" Discussion: Notice that William Fulton is identified as "our son" by David and Nancy Fulton, and, in order to receive this Power of Attorney, William was at least 21 years old in 1834 (born before 1814). We also know that Robert Rankin died before October 1834. Who was Robert Rankin, deceased? He could be related to Nancy, wife of David Fulton, or ... there's too many possibilities. We need more information. -------------------------- The Beattie family: Hester Fulton, daughter of David and Elizabeth (Yerkes) Fulton, married James Beattie at Washington Co, VA, in 1803. (Figure she was at least 16, suggests she was born before 1787.) So far, it appears that this family may have been living in southwest Virginia in 1800, perhaps for thirty years or more? Children of James and Hester (Fulton) Beattie were: 2-Malinda Beattie, m Adriel Weakley 2-Henrietta Beattie, m James Gaines 2-Elizabeth Yerkes Beattie, m David Fulton Middleton (her cousin) 2-Armstrong Beattie, m Eliza Snoddy 2-Thomas E. Beattie 2-James Beattie, m Elizabeth McEwan/McQuoin 2-John Beattie, m Rebecca McEwan/McQuoin 2-Matthew Ryburn Beattie, b 25 Oct 1808 at Washington Co, VA, d 1847 at Saline Co, MO, m Amanda (-?-) 2-Margaret Jane Edmundson Buchanan Beattie, b 13 Dec 1814 at Glade Spring, Washington Co, VA, d 24 Oct 1896 at Kansas, IL, m Jacob Smith (b 20 Mar 1805 at Shelby Co, KY, d 14 Mar 1854, at Urbana, Champaign, IL.) Additional note from Celia Snyder: Jacob and Margaret Jane Edmundson Buchanan (Beattie) Smith are my ancestors. "Margaret's parents [James and Hester (Fulton) Beattie] died when the children were all or most all underage. They were living in Missouri...the children were taken to Shelbyville, KY, and raised by their Aunt Mary (Fulton) and Adam Middleton at the famous Cross Keys Inn (at least famous in Shelby Co, KY)." -------------------------- What do we know? Well, gulp, it's pretty clear that Mary (Fulton) Middleton is the sister of Hester (Fulton) Beattie. After all, she raised the orphaned Beattie children. (Timeframe? before 1829 when Mary (Fulton) Middleton died.) It's also clear that the name Yerkes appears in this family. Elizabeth Yerkes Beattie, daughter of James and Hester (Fulton) Beattie married her first cousin David Fulton Middleton, son of Adam and Mary (Fulton) Middleton. Anthony Yerkes of the Manor of Moreland signed his Will in 1790 and provided for his daughter Elizabeth, wife of David Fulton of Virginia. The David Fulton who died at Shelby County, KY, left his farm to his youngest son, Anthony Fulton. ---------------------- Why are we struggling over this? Perhaps we have all the pieces? In August 1755, Robert Fulton married Eleanor Wynkoop at Christ Church in Philadelphia. It's possible that this man is the same man who died 1798 at Loudoun Co, VA, and provided for these five children: 1. Robert Fulton Jr., b est 1756-9, m 1792 Sarah Powell, d 1836. 2. David Fulton 3. James Fulton 4. Leanah Fulton 5. Molly/Melly Fulton Could David Fulton, son #2 of Robert & Eleanor (Wynkoop) Fulton, be the same man who died at Shelby County, KY, in 1836? Sure. He would be contemporary to Robert Fulton Jr. (#1) who died in 1836. Could David Fulton, son of Robert & Eleanor (Wynkoop) Fulton, be married before 1790? (The date of the Anthony Yerkes' Will). Sure -- if we assume that David is younger than Robert who was born before 1759, David could be born in 1761 and still be married before 1790. Could David Fulton, son of Robert & Eleanor (Wynkoop) Fulton, be married to Elizabeth, the daughter of Anthony Yerkes. Sure, why not? Could this be the same David Fulton who married Elizabeth Yerkes in October 1755 at the same church where Robert Fulton married Eleanor Wynkoop? That's really stretching it -- it would make him about 100 years old when he died in 1836. Could David Fulton who married Elizabeth Yerkes in 1755 be the father of David Fulton who died in 1836 at Shelby Co, KY? Sure -- we have absolutely no information on David Fulton who married Elizabeth Yerkes in 1755. ---------------------- Does anyone have information to add? Does anyone have information about David Fulton who married Elizabeth Yerkes in 1755? Patrice (Fulton) Stark Lone Tree, Colorado

    02/20/2000 01:37:58
    1. Fulton + Wynkoop (Pt 11)
    2. Patrice Fulton Stark
    3. Continuing with the Fulton & Wynkoop family connections... There was more than one Fulton family in Shelby County, Kentucky. In the last installment (Pt10) we learned that a James Fulton died there in 1808. Now I want to share some information about a David Fulton who died there in 1836 [research of Carol Hodge March, 1988] and also Mary (Fulton) Middleton who died there in 1829 [research of Celia G. Snyder, 1997]. According to the Yerkes genealogy published in 1904, Mary (Fulton) Middleton was the daughter of David and Elizabeth (Yerkes) Fulton. -------------------------- The Will of David Fulton of Shelby Co, KY This Will, signed 20 Mar 1835, recorded Oct 1836, identifies David's widow as Nancy (-?-) and provides for these eight children (all living in 1835): 2-Robert R. Fulton [Will probated 1845 at Shelby Co KY] 2-John Fulton 2-James Fulton 2-William Fulton 2-Eliza Fulton 2-Maria Fulton 2-Hester Fulton 2-Anthony Fulton 2-Sarah Jane Fulton, b 1816, m 1837 Andrew Duncan. [On 2 Oct 1832, Hester Fulton m James M. Fry at Shelby Co, KY -- this information from a Family Group Sheet submitted in 1981 to the LDS Church collection, reference document 8119705-85.] Notice the unusual name of the youngest son, "Anthony" Fulton. According to the "Chronicles of the Yerkes Family with Notes on the Leech and Rutter Families" by Josiah Granville Leach (1904), the Will of Anthony Yerkes II, signed in 1790, provided for a daughter "Elizabeth, wife of David Fulton of Virginia." Further, this Yerkes genealogy identified three children born to this couple: Mary Fulton (m Adam Middleton), Robert Fulton, and Hester Fulton. (This last information didn't come from the Yerkes Will, rather it was research gathered by author Leach.) It is possible that Robert, "Maria", and Hester, identified in the Will of David Fulton of Shelby County, KY, (signed 1835) are the same children identified as Robert, "Mary", and Hester, by Josiah Leach in 1904. Mrs. March, a descendant of Andrew and Sarah Jane (Fulton) Duncan, sent me a few more clues. In 1850, Nancy (-?-) Fulton, the widow of David Fulton of Shelby Co, KY, was living with Anthony Fulton at Moniteau County, Missouri, and Andrew and Sarah Jane (Fulton) Duncan were living nearby. Just before his death, David Fulton of Shelby County KY signed a Power of Attorney to his son William Fulton. This document authorized William to collect "what is due from the estate of Robert Rankin" at Wythe County, Virginia. [About ten of us have tried to locate more information on this lead. We are all descendants of a David and Nancy (-?-) Fulton of Grayson County, VA, which is adjacent to Wythe County, so you can imagine our interest. Sadly, we've never found anything about Robert Rankin or "what was due" David Fulton of KY. Nor have we found any connection between these two "David & Nancy Fultons".] ----------------------- Adam and Mary (Fulton) Middleton (shared by Celia Snyder): On 27 February 1794, Mary Fulton married Adam Middleton at Berkeley Co, VA. (Ref: Keesecker, Guy L., editor. "Marriage Records, Berkeley Co., VA, 1781-1854", (Baltimore, MD: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1983.) William Hill, minister. Children of Adam and Mary (Fulton) Middleton: 2-David Fulton Middleton, b 1796, m Elizabeth Yerkes Beattie, "his 1st cousin." (We're back to that Yerkes family!) 2-Hester Middleton, b 1798 m Price Willis. 2-Elizabeth Middleton, b 1800 m William Scearce. 2-James Fulton Middleton, b 1803 m Sarah P. Willis. 2-John Middleton, b 1805 m Elizabeth Caldwell. 2-Anthony Middleton, b 1808 m Madeline Mason. 2-Julia Ann Middleton, b 1810 m1 Stephen Johnston, m2 Alfred Harrington. 2-Adam Middleton Jr., b 1813 m Mary Frances Willis. 2-Robert W. Middleton, b 1816 m Latitia Willis. 2-Jonathan Middleton, b 1819 m Sarah Davenport. On 15 September 1829, Mary (Fulton) Middleton died at Shelby Co, KY. Oh yes, here's some more: There are more Fultons buried in Shelby Co., KY. The Perkins-Fulton Cemetery, located in Hatton, Shelby Co, KY "take KY 1779 (Beech Ridge Road) down Hatton Hill, turn left along the L&N Railroad and continue for 500 feet. Cemetery is on right (north) near top of hill overlooking the RR. William F. and Margaret E. Perkins are in graves 1 and 1a. Mary L. Fulton, wife of Jacob Fulton, b 12 April 1785, d 12 Dec 1849 in grave 2. Grave 3 and 3a are James S. (1820-1898) and Elizabeth J. (-?-) (1819-1904) Fulton. Jacob Fulton? Born 1785? Where does he fit in? The "Accelerated Index" of the 1830 US Census for Shelby County includes only two Fultons: Robert Fulton and Jacob Fulton. (Where's David who died in 1836? If Robert is the oldest son of David, who's Jacob Fulton? Arghhh -- so many questions.) ------------------------- Aside: Urbana Twp, Champaign County, OHIO? Yes, according to my Rand-McNally Road Map, there really is such a place. But I also see that there is an Urbana Twp, Champaign County, ILLINOIS, home to the prestigious University of Illinois, Champaign-Urbana campus, which (coincidentally?) is the email address of correspondent Celia Snyder. Curious, don't you think? ------------------------- Patrice (Fulton) Stark Lone Tree, Colorado

    02/20/2000 10:50:25
    1. Fulton + Wynkoop (Pt 10)
    2. Patrice Fulton Stark
    3. Continuing with the Fulton & Wynkoop family connections... Correspondent Dave Van Doren received a copy of "Pt 9" of this message thread and has sent along some additional information. (Thank you, Dave!) Mr. Van Doren writes: "My daughter-in-law is descended from Robert Fulton and Eleanor Wynkoop. ... Most of what I have found, you have reported in the..." [Fulton + Wynkoop, Parts 1-8) messages]. "The only contribution I can make at the present is negative. My info (not all that ironclad) indicates that Elisha Powell was s/o William and Amy Powell of St. Paul's Parish, Stafford Co, VA, and was born there 2 May 1739 (Nicklin, John Bailey Calvert - “St. Paul's Parish Register (Stafford Co, VA) 1715-1798”, Genealogical Pub Co, Baltimore, 1990). That sort of eliminates him as a direct descendant of the PA Powells." * * * * * Quick Review of the Fultons of Loudoun Co., VA. In 1779, Hugh Fulton, Robert Fulton and Robert Fulton Jr. paid taxes at Loudoun Co, VA. Based on the appearance of a common neighbor, Aaron Sanders, I suggested that there may be a connection between Hugh Fulton (land adjacent to Aaron Sanders) and Robert Fulton (his Will witnessed in 1792 by Aaron Sanders.) See "Fulton + Wynkoop (Pt9) for a summary of tax list entries and additional discussion. Robert Fulton "Jr." on the 1779 tax list is NOT a son of Hugh Fulton, but could be the son named in the 1792 Will of Robert Fulton. While I cannot yet "prove" that Robert Fulton of Loudoun County is the same Robert Fulton who married Eleanor Wynkoop in Philadelphia in 1755, the appearance of the name Wynkoop in succeeding generations helps build a "preponderance of evidence" case. Taxpayer Robert Fulton Jr. was at least 21 years old in 1779, therefore he was born before 1759. This is consistent with the Robert Fulton - Eleanor Wynkoop marriage recorded 20 August 1755 at Christ Church, Philadelphia Co, Pennsylvania. If we have the correct family, Robert Fulton Jr. was probably born in 1756, -57, or -58, which is consistent with the 1755 marriage. The Will of Robert Fulton of Loudoun Co, VA, (signed 1792, recorded 1798) provides for a wife (not named) and the following children: 1) Robert Fulton (to care for widow), b bef 1759, d 1798 2) David Fulton 3) James Fulton 4) Leanah Fulton, unm in 1792 5) Molly/Melly Fulton, unm in 1792 - ----------------------------- New information regarding the descendants of Robert Fulton (d 1798) at Loudoun Co, VA (probable eldest son of Robert and Eleanor (Wynkoop) Fulton): Generation 1: Robert Fulton d 1798, Loudoun Co, VA Generation 2: Robert Fulton Jr. married (1) in 1792, Sarah Powell, daughter of Elisha Powell, and married (2), Mary (-?-). This family stayed in Loudoun Co, VA. The Will of Robert Fulton Jr. was recorded at Loudoun Co. on 4 July 1836, and his inventory submitted 21 May 1841. Robert acquired land in Hampshire Co, VA, which was willed to his two oldest sons, Elisha and Robert, but the land was sold before his death. (Note from Mr. Van Doren.) Five known children of Robert and Sarah (Powell) Fulton: 3-Elisha Wynkoop Fulton, b 1793, d 20 Oct 1866 at Bainbridge, Indiana 3-Robert Massie Fulton (no further info) 3-David Powell Fulton, b 1797, m 1821, Jane E. Carr 3-John Fulton (no further info) 3-William Fulton (no further info) Generation 3: David Powell Fulton, b 10 May 1797 in VA, d 12 Feb 1865 at Urbana Twp, Champaign Co, Ohio. He married 23 Mar 1822 at Loudoun Co, VA, Jane E. Carr. She was born 1805, d 11 Feb 1889 at Urbana, OH. This family moved to Urbana Twp, Ohio before 1843 (son Joseph Fulton reported his birthplace as Ohio). David and Jane Fulton are buried in the Oakdale Cemetery at Urbana, Champaign Co, Ohio. Eight known children of David Powell and Jane E. (Carr) Fulton: 4-James William Fulton (1823-1893) 4-Robert C. Fulton 4-David C. Fulton 4-Charles E. Fulton 4-Sarah M. Fulton 4-Joseph Fulton (b 1843 in OH) 4-Jane E. Fulton 4-Henry P. Fulton Generation 4: James William Fulton, b Jan 1823 at Loudoun Co, VA, d 10 Apr 1893 at Urbana Twp, Champaign Co, OH. He married 23 Jan 1849 at Clark Co, OH, Anna Flick. Three known children of James William and Anna (Flick) Fulton: 5-Catherine "Kate/Katie" Jane Fulton (1850-1905)m m 1878 Charles Fenton Laycock. 5-Mary Ann Fulton 5-Frances Ellen Fulton - ----------------------------- Generation 2-David Fulton, son of Robert Fulton who d 1798, was alive in 1792 when his father signed his will. The father's provision, "...my son Robert shall pay my son David ten shillings at my wife's Death..." is not a large bequest. We know that the oldest son, Robert, was born before 1759, possibly as early as 1756. Brother David could be just 2 years younger, therefore born as early as 1758. Clearly, son David Fulton was old enough to be married with a family of his own by 1792. No further information (at the moment.) - ----------------------------- Generation 2- James Fulton, son of Robert Fulton who d 1798, was alive in 1792. While no one has yet identified this man, I would like to propose a possibility. I suspect he may be the James Fulton who died in Shelby Co, KY, in 1806. Here's what I've found: On 14 January 1799, James "Fultin" married Winifred D. Hayes at Fauquier Co, VA. (Ref: Gott, John K. "Fauquier Co., VA, Marriage Bonds, 1759-1854, and Marriage Returns, 1785-1848", (Bowie MD: Heritage Books, Inc.), 1989, p 72. Bondsman: Peter Hayes. In May 1808, a James Fulton died at Shelby County, KY, and in 1813, a Winifred Fulton married Samuel W. White. (The Will of a James Fulton is listed in the index to Shelby Co, Will Book 2 but I have not pursued this. Celia?) Now, this James Fulton is buried in the Wilson Cemetery ("take US 60 west for 2.75 miles, turn right on Scotts Station Road, go north 2.9 miles, turn left onto farm owned by Bobby Carpenter. Cemetery is .4 miles due west. 30'x30' burial ground for members of Hays, Fulton, White, Christian and Wilson families.") The grave of James Fulton is next to the grave of Eleanor W. Fulton, b 1801, d 26 May 1822. Eleanor W. Fulton? [Eleanor "Wynkoop" Fulton?] Further, I find that on 9 Feb 1807, a James Fulton is identified as an Ensign in the 18th Regiment of the "Corn Stalk Militia" of Shelby Co, KY. If Ensign James is the same man, this may be a clue as to how he died. [Ref: Cliff, Glenn G. "The Corn Stalk Militia. 1792-1811" (Frankfort, KY: Kentucky Historical Society, 1957), reprint by Southern Historical Press, Easley, South Carolina, 1952 [sic], p 173.] In February 1813, Winifred Fulton married Samuel W. White at Shelby Co, KY. (Ref: "Kentucky Marriage Records", index by Eleanor Antoniak, (Baltimore, MD: Genealogical Publishing Company, 1983), pages 733 and 792.) If Winifred Fulton is the widow of James Fulton, I suspect we'll find Fulton children living in the Samuel W. White household at the time of the 1820 US Census -- certainly Eleanor W. Fulton who died in 1822 and is buried next to James Fulton who died in 1808. - ----------------------------- I've got more! Patrice (Fulton) Stark Lone Tree, Colorado

    02/20/2000 08:46:16
    1. Rev. John Cuthbertson b 1718 d 1791 Ayr, SCT > Lancaster Co,PA
    2. Roberta (Fulton) Hirth
    3. Folks, In EVERTON'S Family History Newsline dated Friday, 18 February 2000 it states, "As you reconstitute your family's history you find yourself in the position of doing what others have not every day. You need to locate obscure data, knit that information together with other data in your possession, and produce a documented portion of personalized history for yourself and the other members of your family." It also mentions that this requires patience. Answers do not quickly appear overnight, but often evolve over a period of years. In the Fulton-L archives there is a note on Subject: Fulton + Wynkoop (Pt 2) Dated: 27 Jan 2000 in which Pat Stark explains that Rev. John Cuthbertson, a minister of the "Reformed Presbyterian Church" who came to America in 1751 was a brother-in-law to James Fulton, the Philadelphia merchant. These men married two daughters of Walter Moore of the Manor of Moreland,PA area. The source of this information: His diary was transcribed by S. Helen Fields and published as the "Register of Marriages and Baptisms Performed by Rev. John Cuthbertson 1751-1791 (Washington, D.C. Daughters of American Revolution, 1934.) It is currently available as a 1998 reprint from Clearfield Co from the Genealogical Publishing Co. and contains 301 pages. On page 202: 1754 June 6 "Rode 12 miles to Walter Moore's at Pennypack Creek tired but." (From White Horse) 1760 Feb 28 "Married James Fulton and Mary Moore." (Probably at Walter Moore's.) The first time I read that entry several years ago, it was just a marriage, but now in the context of a lot of other data we have been discussing, it pulls together a family unit and through marriage unites the Fulton/ Moore/ Cuthbertson surnames as a network of people. When you read the contents of this book, you begin to realize that the Rev. John Cuthbertson was like the "telegraph" of the mid to late 1700s in PA, NY, DE, NJ - he spends a lifetime as a traveling minister. Remember how we strive to find out more about the Covenanter communities because these folks stuck togethers and help us to better understand the possbile migration paths of our Fultons. Well, the Rev. Cuthbertson touches so many geographic areas that relate to localities we Fulton researchers are studying. His diary is the epitome of the fountain of knowledge - but to understand it means piecing together many obscure pieces of information from diverse sources. I bought this book several years ago and everytime I look at it, another piece of data becomes understandable because my foundation of information continues to slowly grow over an extended period of time. It takes awhile before I can properly interpret what is in his notes and relate it to what I am researching and there is so much more I need to learn to fully understand most of his entries. This book explains the following on page vii: Rev. John Cuthbertson was born near Ayr, Ayrshire Scotland 3 April 1718. His parents were devout members of the persecuted Church of Scotland...Studied under Rev John McMillan who with Rev Thomas Nairin, a Ruling Elder, constituted the Reformed Presbytery of Scotland, which was organized in 1743. By this Court he was licensed on May 16, 1745, and ordained at Braehead on May 18, 1747, ministering to the Covenanters in Scotland. Baptisms solemnized by him in 1747 and 1748 are recorded on page 65 of the Register of Rev. John McMillan,(*) as edited by Rev. Henry Paton, M.A., of Scotland. In a footnote it mentions the that Doctor McMillan's Register listed Cuthbertsons, some of whom probably belonged to the immediate family of the Rev. John Cuthbertson. For example, at Braehead, Dec 17 1743, Alexander Kirkland and Elizabeth Cuthbertson, both in Kilmarnock parish, were married by Rev. John McMillan. By the way, in the Fulton-L archives there is an entry for a Kirkland marrying a Fulton 100 years later in this part of Scotland. So this footnote should be of great interest to Fulton researchers with Roots in Kilmaurs, Kilmarnock, Fenwick such as listed in the archived notes a)Archived note Re: FULTON in Ayr, Scotland dated 30 Apr 1997: Barry Wright at <jbwright@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> 1 James Fulton + Elizabeth Cuthbertson 2 James Fulton + Margaret Wallace 3 Thomas Fulton + Elizabeth White 4 Janet Fulton b 17 Dec 1822 Fenwick, Ayr,SCT + Willaim Stevenson b. 26 May 1821 Kilmarnock, Ayr, SCT m. 29 May 1843 in Moscow,Ayr, SCT b)Archived note Subject:JOHN FULTON OF Lanarkshire dated 17 May 1999 Researchers James and Dorothy Fulton<dkfulton@futura.net> and Forrest and Irene Fulton<ffulton@infoserv.com> This note outlines why Irene believes that the John Fulton of the Hugh Ramsey Fulton's book is the son of her husband's James Fulton who died in York Co PA in 1772, will made 1769 in Hopewell Twp. York Co. PA Their immigrant James was married 3 times: James & Mary Willson married 31 Oct 1710 Kilmars Parish James & Jean Larmont married 21 Mar 1727, James of Kilmars, Jean from Kilmarnock James & Jean Smith married 26 Jan 1736, Kilmars & Kilmarnock Parishes, Jean's father of Burnhead "parech" of Fennick By the way, I looked up Braehead in Samuel Lewis' Topographical Dictionary of Scotland, 1846, page 159. BRAEHEAD, a village, in the parish of CARNWATH, upper ward of the county of Lanark, 3.5 miles (N.) from Carnwath; containing 312 inhabitants. This village, which is pleasantly situated on the road to Wilsontown, is inhabited chiefly by persons engaged in agricultural pursuits, and partly by others employed in weaving at their own dwellings for the Glasgow and Paisley manufacturers. There is a place of worship for New Light Burghers. If you are interested in the Fulton connection to Paisley silk manufacturing, please check the notes in the archives. Braehead is about 33 miles east of Kilmarnock. It is very near to Biggar, the location of the Covenanter museum that was closed on our Fulton Reunion 1995 trip (luckliy so because we decided to search out the Fulton Tower instead). The URL for the Greenhill Covenanter House Museum at Biggar, Scotland: http://www.biggar-net.co.uk/museums/museums.htm For more information on the Church split and Burgher and anti-Burghers see URL: http://www.btinternet.com/~stnicholas.buccleuch/chart.htm Also see the archived note Subject: Covenanter/Presbyterian Resources dated 29 Dec 1999 for more links on this topic. Coninuting on page vii of the Cuthbertson book: "While Moderator of this Presbytery, Doctor Cuthbertson was sent to minister to the scattered Coventanters in Ireland, but because of his earnest entreatries of the Scottish Covenanters in America for an Under Shepherd, he was sent to this country in 1751, the first Reformed Presbyterian Missionary to come to America." page x: "The Scottish Covenanters were to be found in the Cumberland Valley region as early as 1720. They settled principally along the Conococheague Creek; Pequea; Conestoga; Swatra; and other streams flowing from the east into the Susquehanna.This valley extends in a southerly direction from Harrisburg, pa., into Maryland and Virginia. It was the practice of the Covenanters to organize themselves, as in Scotland, into Societies or Correspondences among those living in the same general localities. These met annually or semi-anually as a Presbytery, known as "The General Meeting". Mr Cuthbertson presided over these meetings, usually held at Middle Octoraro, from 1751 until 1774, when the Reformed Presbytery of America was organized and Revs Matthew Linn and Alexander Dobbin took over some of his heavy responsibilities. The principal Society of Rev. John Cuthbertson was at the Middle Octoraro, Lancaster Co, Pa. At this place he bought a farm from "Josias Kerr" on January 24, 1757 (p. 142), about a year after his marriage to Miss Sally Moore, one of the daughters of Walter Moore, whose home was about fifteen miles from Philadelphia, on the Pennypack Creek. This farm is located about two miles from the stone church in which he often preached..." One of the previous ministers of the Middle Octorara Church, Rev. Alexander Craighead, was a staunch Covenanter in that area until about 1743 (he was suspended). He moved on to Windy Coce on Cow Pasture River, Augusta Co, Va in 1749 and then to Macklenburgh Co, N.C. (Source for more discussion see the Fulton-L archives for: Subject: James FULTON, Lancaster Co, PA, 1753 thru 1768 Dated 30 Aug 1998 15:42:37 page xi: "In this home Mr Cuthbertson's three children were reared - Sarah, John and Walter... None of Mr Cuthbertson's children married. His son John, his daughter, and Mrs Cuthbertson are buried in Lower Buffalo Graveyard, Independence Township, Washington Co, Pa which was erected in 1795. When Rev John Cuthbertson came to America in 1751, he was accompanied by his sister, Janet Cuthbertson Bourns, and her husband, Archibald Bourns, of Lanark, Scotland, with their infant son John. Archibald Bourns settled soon after near what is now Fairfield, and was then Middletown, Adams County, Pennsylvania, on a farm presented to his sister by her brother. This farm is on the now historic Gettysburg Battlefield. Archibald Bourns was the second brother of William Burness, father of Robert Burns, the beloved Poet of Scotland. Another brother Thomas, emigrated to America from Scotland, and settled in Mifflin County, Pennsylvania in 1747." Now this Burns association raises my interest. In 1997, Florence and I visited the St Columba's Church in Stewarton, Scotland (just outside of Kilmarnock) because our gr-gr-gr-gr grandfather James Fulton and wife Nancy Cunningham had their marriage banns read there Dec 1773. In the cemetery, we found a tombstone for Robert Burns, the uncle of the poet. My James had written in his memoirs that he met the poet when he was a lad, and given the fact that the poet's uncle was in Stewarton, it seemed feasible. page xiv: "Rev John Cuthbertson died on March 10. 1791, ages 72 years, 11 mos. and 7 days. He is buried in Middle Octoraro Graveyard attached to the stone church where he labored until March 20, 1783." page 202: Philadelphia: The first Covenanter here, it is believed, was a Mr. Boyd, who, with his family, emigrated from Ireland in 1740. Mr Boyd died soon after he arrived in America. His family roomed in a house of James Rainey from Ireland, who became a Covenanter, and removed to Wallkill, Orange County, N.Y. in 1748. Mr. John Agnew and his wife emigrated from Ireland to Philadelphia in 1784, where they lived for three years, after which they moved to New York City. Rev John Cuthburtson made many visits to Philadelphia, being drawn there often, no doubt, because of his wife's family, residing some fifteen miles away." Rev. John Cuthbertson travelled over 70,000 miles to provide services over a large area in PA, NY, NJ. His diary documents his visits to Wallkill, NY from 1753-ca 1783 at the Goodwill Church etc. and at Little Britain. This church is just a few miles from New Windsor, NY. page 248 Gracehill's Tavern "1760 Oct 13 rode 36 miles to Gracehill's T.-6 miles beyond H. Simson's" A footnote explains that Grace Hill's Tavern was located near the Goodwill Church, 2 miles southeast of Montgomery. Little Britain "1780 Nov 2 Fast-day. Rode 18 miles to Math. McDowel's-L Br-Mr. Annan preached 2d psalm. 11th verse" A footnote explains that Rev. Robert Annan was in charge of the Little Britain Church, located in the Town of New Windsor. It is also known as McDowell's Church. Mr. McDowell was one of its founders. What is of interest to us Fulton researchers is that the Will of David Fulton of New Windsor, Ulster Co. (now Orange Co), NY, Proved in NYC 9 Nov 1770, written 13 June 1770 (Origianl Liber 27 pages 416-418, location unknown; recopied Liber 27 pages 443 -445 located at Probate Court Records 31 Chambers St. NYC, NY) lists as Executors: Mathew McDowell of New Windsor, Ulster Co, NY Jonathan Brooks of Cornwall, Orange Co.,NY Both executors listed as “trusty friends” Continuing page 248: "The first Covenanters, called 'Wallkillians' by Rev John Cuthburtson, settled in northern Orange and southern Ulster Counties, in the state of New York, in 1748, in the Valley of Wallkill. They were visited by Rev. John Cuthburtson in 1753, 1754, 1759, 1760, 1764, 1766, 1769, 1774, 1775, 1780, 1783, during which time he preached, lectured, catechized, baptized and performed marriage ceremonies." Page 92: Listed under Canandugwinet Creek, Cumberland Co, PA: "1770 Apr 17 rode 21 miles to Wal. B. Married Alexander McCulloch and Hannah Dixon-went by R. Fulton's-very tired. (From home.)" Page 152: Listed under Middle Octoraro (Society), Lancaster Co, PA "1762 Feb 24 Rode 9 miles with brother Fullton to Loch., Miller, home (From home)" Page 197: Listed under Montgomery Co, PA "1759 Oct 2 "rode 14 miles to Hickory Town-paid 6 doll-Fulton-." (From Philadelphia). Page 208: Listed under York Co, PA Lower Chanceford (Society) "Including Muddy Run and Muddy Creek Societies. Lower Chanceford is known as 'The Barrens.' The Society was organized in 1751. After the organization of the Reformed Presbytery in 1774, Rev John Cuthburtson ministered to it, together with that of Middle Octoraro, being released from the latter in March, 1783. At the house of William Maughlin in Lower Chanceford, he preached his last recorded sermon on Sept 20, 1790, dying the following March." Page 212: listed under Lower Chanceford (Society) York Co, PA: 1762 Mar 24-28 Mentions names Alexander Baldridge, married William Young and Margaret Sconler (Scouler?), H. Rosses, Thomas Ramsay, Robert Grier. "1762 Mar 26 Rode 6 miles to J. and Marlins, lodged A. Fullton" Page 227: listed under Lower Chanceford (Society) York Co, PA: "1779 June 23 rode 8 miles Mr. Clarkson's; conversed and Mr. Fulton's etc." Page 228: listed under Lower Chanceford (Society) York Co, PA: "1780 Jan 5 rode 6 miles to S. L's and to A. Ewins-2nd child dead- great storm (From Dan Sinclair's) Jan 17 rode 5 miles to Ross's, J. Robieson, to and from Fulton's (From Dan Sincalir's)" Page 229: listed under Lower Chanceford (Society) York Co, PA: "1781 Jan 9 rode 5 miles to Fulton's, Pederis. G. Henry's, Wm. Pollock" "1781 Apr 4,5 rode 8 miles W. Mau., Ful. R. Fulton's, Rob. Ross." Page 230: listed under Lower Chanceford (Society) York Co, PA: "1781 Aug 27 rode 6 miles from Ross's, Fulton's, Fulerton's, Maughlin's, to Logue's." "1781 Sept 6 rode 8 miles to Fulton's Col. W. W. dying, Loughhead's, W. Maughlin's." Page 231: listed under Lower Chanceford (Society) York Co, PA: "1782 Mar 18,19 rode 4 miles to and from Fulton's and to D. Sincalir's. lectured." Page 236: listed under Lower Chanceford (Society) York Co, PA: "1788 Apr 11 rode 5 miles to Fult., F. Maugh., Ramsay, J. Logue's." Page 249: listed under York, York Co, PA: "1771 Sept 19 rode 29 miles to York Mr. Fulton's; paid 10 shillings to mend my watch. (From John McMillan's)" Page 288: Addtional Quotations "Fulton; Fullton: Alex. 1762 Oct 26 Rode 30 miles to Alex Fulton's, John McMillan's. (From York) Sally 1780 Dec 20 rode 6 miles with Sally Fulton to Widow Collins-well. (Then rode 2 miles back to to Colonel' Ross's.) I find it inspirational that one man could touch so many lives over such a large geographic area by riding and walking his horse from one community to the next. Roberta R. (Fulton) Hirth Harriman, New York Fulton web page at: http://www.frontiernet.net/~elisa96/hirth/fulton.htm\ Search Fulton-L archives at: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl

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