Greetings, Has anyone ever looked into the Henry Fulton who is buried at Tyrone City, Blair Co Pa, and who was an 1812 war soldier? Tyrone is on the very north tip of Blair Co ( I believe this is Tyron City.) Keep in mind this is near to ClintonPa. Could this be the Henry Fulton of 1788 of Pine Creek, Clinton Co Pa, & in 1799 was on the tax assemssment list with 30 acres in the same place?? Could he have been the ansestor of the query below? I would be very interested in hearing form anyone who has info on this Henry Fulton. I hope to take a trip to the National Archive in NYC with my sister, Roberta, very soon . Maybe I can find some more on Henry. Sources: National Gen Soc Quarterly Vol 16 June 1953 No. 2 pg 46 Fultons in Centre & Clinton Co PA, pg 1; by Leonard A Fulton Thanks! Florence F Wolfe fwolfe@frontiernet.net -----Original Message----- From: Roberta (Fulton) Hirth <hirth@frontiernet.net> To: FULTON-L@rootsweb.com <FULTON-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, April 25, 2000 7:35 AM Subject: [FULTON] Centre Co, PA Fultons 1800s and Shirk Family >Folks, >At the end of November, 1998, I received this note from Bob Fulton >and he also joined us at the 1999 Fulton reunion at Salt Lake City. > >"robert l fulton" <norway@raex.com> wrote: >> Hi my name is Bob Fulton and I'm a dentist in the Akron/Cleveland >> Ohio area. For a number of years I have been at a stone wall >> with my family tree around the 1860's. I have a great great >> grandmother Margaret Fulton appear as a passing entry to the >> Centre County PA census but she is a servant with a 3 year old >> in a Shirk Family whose wife is a Rebecca (Fulton) Shirk. They >> show no relationship to each other although I find that hard to >> believe. Some of the names in your web site are similar >> although not time or location correct. Do you have any indication of >> your side migrating to Centre County PA in the late 1700's or early >> 1800's? >> Thanks for your reply I'm sure we are cousins somewhere in time >> Bob Fulton > >Dear Bob, >Although we still do not know how your gr-gr-grandmother Margaret and >her three year old son fit into the Fulton groups in the area around >Bellefonte, Centre Co, PA, by studying the Fulton family for whom >she was a servant, we may get some leads. > >As I recall, at Salt Lake City we had discussed the significance >of the name Miles in your family and the Miles Cochran name in the >widow Agnes line as a possible lead. I have found some other >information >about Fultons in that area that may be helpful.

SWF12262@aol.com wrote: > Abram Charles FULTON must have been a brother to my Abraham FULTON >(also a son of Robert). Abraham and family moved from Westmoreland > Co., PA to Center Twp., Porter Co., IN, in the 1840s. Related IN > families were FARRINGTON, HUGHART, and MANN, all in Porter Co. > I'd love to find out more about Abram's family and descendants! > > Regarding the Hubbard Trail, IL Rt. 1 runs all the way from Cairo > in the extreme south, through Chicago where it become Halsted Street. > The Chicago PBS station (WTTW, channel 11) had an excellent documentary > about Rt. 1 several months ago. I believe it was narrated by Studs > Terkel. WTTW has a website, but I'm not sure of the address. Perhaps > a tape of this documentary is available. It's good orientation, and > does provide some history. > > Steve Folkers > Skokie, IL > (swf12262@aol.com) Dear Steve, Thank you for the additional information regarding the Hubbard Trail. What is the name of the wife of your Abraham Fulton and their children? If he is part of the Abraham Fulton/Margaret Guthrie line, it is possible he could be on another branch because they used the same first names over and over and often each branch had eight or more children. Here are some suggestions: 1) Have you retrieved notes from the archives - search for Guthrie or Guthry or Westmoreland or Craighead ? Of particular interest: a) Subject: Abraham Fulton and Margaret Guthrie, Westmoreland, PA, 1772 Dated: 6 Sept 1997 (a descendancy chart) b) Subject: Combining files for Abraham Fulton/Margaret Guthrie descendants Dated: 10 Dec 1997 (list of researchers studying this family, and more appear on the list who subsequently joined the discussion) c) Subject: Don't Pull That Thread... Dated 25 Nov 1998 (discusses possibility of where James and Robert, sons of Abraham Fulton and Margaret Guthrie, may have stayed when they came to America prior to 1770 "to check things out". d) Subject: Abraham Fulton and Margaret Guthrie, Articlave, Londonderry Co, Ireland 1772 Dated: 06 Sept 1997 (General background information and explains that Higginson Publishers sells Ernest Craighead book on this line) 2) Have you checked out Georgeann Malowney's web page on the Westmoreland Fultons at: http://www.IrishGenealogy.com/fulton.htm Hope this helps. Roberta R. (Fulton) Hirth Harriman, New York 10926 Fulton web page at: http://www.frontiernet.net/~elisa96/hirth/fulton.htm Search Fulton-L archives at: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl

Reference: Subject:Fultons in Iowa Dated Tue, 25 Apr 2000 19:44:47 -0700 From: Mary Droege <hanknmary@mindspring.com> Dear Mary, Thank you for sharing information about your great uncle, Charles S. Fulton b 12 March 1859 in LaPorte IN to mother Theoda (Smart) Fulton and father Abram Charles Fulton, grandson of Abraham Fulton and Margaret Guthrie via their son Robert. Regarding the Hubbard Trail (Vincennes Trace), I am not familiar with it, but by using an online search engine engine, I found the following sites which offer some additional information. If you write to the Rossville Historical <roshisoc@soltec.net> (see link below), they may be able to provide you more details. Rossville Historical & Genealogical Society, Vermilion Co, IL: http://rossville.com/rossvillehistory.htm "On the main floor is located an extensive genealogy section. This includes data on people with roots in the area, histories of houses and buildings, and the part each occupant played in the development of this village along the famous Hubbard's Trail... Members of the Rossville Historical & Genealogical Society are eager to share Rossville history with anyone who has a keen eye and a listening ear. This quaint little "prairie town" beckons from the past, drawing you slowly into a time long forgotten. The preserved vintage 1923 street lamps, the historic homes, and a rare tree, which graces the front lawn of the high school, welcome everyone to this "Village of Unusual Shops" as you follow Route 1 along the famous Hubbard's Trail in northern Vermilion County... The historic village is located on Route 1 in the northern part of Vermilion County, on the North Fork of the Vermilion River. Before the settling of this area by early pioneers, Indians roamed freely among the wooded areas. Their trails followed the ridges along the river and wound around to avoid the sloughs. Along these Indian paths was an amazing variety of native trees and plants. Wild game was plentiful. Numerous small streams and rivulets, fed by living springs, added dimension to this area for the early settler. The land was rich and needed only the rasping of the plow to become a productive source... In the beginning, small settlements began to dot the countryside. Rossville started out as a settlement at the crossroads of the Chicago-Danville Road and the Attica-Paxton Road. As time progressed, the principle thoroughfare through the country was Hubbard's Trail, established by Guerdon Hubbard in 1822. Hubbard was an Indian fur trader who established trading posts along the trail, and knew the ways of the Indian. In July 1876, Hubbard was responsible for placing a marker in Rossville, on the line of the original trail." Illinois State Historical Society Historical Markers by County at: http://www.prairienet.org/ishs/frames/hmcounty.htm mentions marker in Kankakee Co, IL, or go directly to http://www.prairienet.org/ishs/markers/146.htm "Hubbard Trail County: Kankakee Location: IL 1 & 17, Momence Erected: 11/18/1953 Erected by: The Illinois State Historical Society This trail was blazed by Gurdon S. Hubbard, 1822-1824, connecting the trading posts of the American Fur Company between Vincennes and Chicago. Momence, near the upper crossing of the Kankakee River, is on this trail. Known also as the Vincennes Trace, it is perpetuated today as State Highway No. 1." Saulk Trail, another important intersecting trail, is discussed on the web page maintained by the Sauk Trail Chapter National Society Daughters of the American Revolution Chicago Heights, Illinois at: http://www.lincolnnet.net/sauktraildar/ "Two historic highways intersect in Chicago Heights, Cook County, Illinois; namely, the famous Sauk Indian Trail and the old Hubbard Trail. The famous Sauk Trail, which passed Chicago Heights, connected the villages of the Indians on the Mississippi with the trading posts of Detroit, Michigan and Fort Malden, Ontario, Canada. While the trail was originally used by the Indians, it was trod in time by explorers, trappers, missionaries, and tradesmen. This trail was used not only for such relatively peaceful purpose. It also played its part during the American Revolution, the War of 1812, and the Black Hawk War of 1832." ************************************************************ After reading that the Hubbard trail follows Rt 1, I noticed that in the past we had some other queries that followed that path. You may want to check out these messages in the fulton-l archives: 1)Subject: John FULTON: 1809PA > 1835 IN Dated: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 From: ldnelson@tir.com (L Darrell Nelson, Jr) and Subject: Re: fulton 1809 pa. Dated: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:39:09 -0800 (PST) Looking for parents of John and Catherine (GARWOOD) FULTON. John was born in PA and moved to IN probably before his first marriage... Before 1858, he moved to Newell Twp, Vermilion County, IL and had one child ... 2)Subject: LOOKUP: Robt FULTON, Edinburgh SCT->IL 1859 Dated: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 From: Polly Brown <orb@showme.missouri.edu> Robert FULTON and wife, Gean (Jane). Gean was born in the Glasgow area and it is believed that Robert and Gean were married there. They emigrated from Edinburgh, SCT to Iroquois County, IL, 1859.... *********************************************************** The free maps listed below provided by Ancestry.com provide an informative overview of migration trails in the U.S. for various time periods. We can better understand the migration paths that our Fultons followed by studying these maps. Westward Migration in U.S. 1775-1860 http://www.ancestry.com/ancestry/FreeImages.asp?ImageID=299 Exploration and Settlement Before 1675 http://www.ancestry.com/ancestry/FreeImages.asp?ImageID=641 Exploration and Settlement 1675-1800 http://www.ancestry.com/ancestry/FreeImages.asp?ImageID=643 Exploration and Settlement 1800-1820 http://www.ancestry.com/ancestry/FreeImages.asp?ImageID=644 Exploration and Settlement 1820-1835 http://www.ancestry.com/ancestry/FreeImages.asp?ImageID=645 Exploration and Settlement 1835-1850 http://www.ancestry.com/ancestry/FreeImages.asp?ImageID=647 Exploration and Settlement 1850-1890 http://www.ancestry.com/ancestry/FreeImages.asp?ImageID=648 ************************************************************ Here are some other links that deal with various migrations and trail maps. TRAIL & MIGRATION SITES Online map or migration trails at: http://www.lib.utexas.edu/Libs/PCL/Map_collection/united_states/Exploration_1675.jpg Migration across U.S by showing county creation http://www.ac.wwu.edu/~stephan/Animation/us.gif Early American Roads and Trails with Descriptions of 16 of the major early roads http://members.aol.com/RoadTrails/roadtrai.html National Road - History http://www.connerprairie.org/ntlroad.html The Overland Trail http://www.over-land.com/index.html American Migrations Web Site http://members.aol.com/gedsearch/migrate.htm National Historic Trails Interpretive Center in Wyoming http://w3.trib.com/~rlund/NHTIC.html The Northern Great Plains, 1880-1920, ND http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/award97/ndfahtml/ngphome.html Pioneering in the Upper Midwest, 1820-1910 American Memory Project, LOC http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/umhtml/umhome.html OREGON/CALIFORNIA TRAIL Oregon-California Trails Association http://calcite.rocky.edu/octa/octahome.htm End of the Oregon Trail Interpretive Center http://www.teleport.com:80/~eotic/index.html Emigrant Summit Trail (to California) http://www.r5.pswfs.gov/heritage/010.HTM Opening of the California Trail http://www.tahoenet.com/tdhs/tpstephn.html MORMON TRAIL MormonTrail.com: The Pioneer Experience http://www.mormontrail.com/ MormonTrail.net http://www.mormontrail.net/ History of the Mormon Trail http://lserver.aea14.k12.ia.us/SWP/cdavis/MTOP.HOMEP Iowa Mormon Trails http://www.lisco.com/iowamormontr/ SANTA FE TRAIL The Interactive Santa Fe Trail (SFT) Homepage http://raven.cc.ukans.edu/heritage/research/sft/ RAILROAD RRHistorical http://rrhistorical.com Railroad Maps from the Library of Congress http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/gmdhtml/rrhtml/rrhome.html Golden Spike National Historic Site http://www.media.utah.edu/medsol/UCME/g/GOLDENSPIKE.html Railroads in Kansas http://history.cc.ukans.edu/heritage/research/rr/railroads.html Roberta R. (Fulton) Hirth Harriman, New York 10926 Fulton web page at: http://www.frontiernet.net/~elisa96/hirth/fulton.htm Search Fulton-L archives at: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl

Reference: a) Subject:Centre Co, PA Fultons 1800s and Shirk Family Dated: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 04:33:19 -0700 (PDT) b) Subject: Norristown Fultons in PA ca 1753 Dated: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 06:56:39 -0800 (PST) which includes the note: c) Subject: Peter McMullen Fulton 1869 IL Dated: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 21:04:53 -0400 Folks, Jeni <jenibear@swbell.net> has gotten back to me regarding the source of her information about John Fulton b 1713 Sct, emigrated 1753 to Norristown, Chester Co, PA. and her statement that his son James Fulton was b 1791 near Howard, Centre Co, PA, d 1850, m Mary Ann McMullen. It was provided to her by her father-in-law based on data collected by Mary Ellen Fulton Evans in July of 1994. She states that most of Mary Ellen's efforts were concentrated on Peter McMullen Fulton Jr (Nov 28 1896-Sep 18 1916) and Melissa Ann Jeffers (July 3 1869-Dec 25 1943). She further comments that after reviewing the data she is also suspicious of the "John Fulton (1713-?)" information. She is going to try to make contact with the author of this data to find out her sources. Roberta R. (Fulton) Hirth Harriman, New York 10926 Fulton web page at: http://www.frontiernet.net/~elisa96/hirth/fulton.htm Search Fulton-L archives at: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl

I read the request about Charles Jay Fulton, born in Hamburg IA, received 4/13/00. My greatuncle, Charles S. Fulton, was born in LaPorte IN, March 12, 1859, to Abram Charles Fulton and Theoda Smart. They later moved to Momence IL (before 1862), where my grand- mother, Mary Elizabeth Fulton was born March 12, [yes, they must have shared parties] 1867. Before 1871 they moved to Atlantic IA, which isn't too far from Hamburg. Abram Charles Fulton was descended from Robert Fulton, son of Abraham Fulton and Margaret Guthrie [or Guthry] of Antrim County, Ireland. Abram Charles and Theoda Smart had ten children, all of whom survived into adulthood. There may be some connection between her father and Charles S. Fulton. Did she send the date of her father's birth? I don't have the date of Charles S. Fulton's death. When my grandmother died in 1926, her obituary gave his residence as Lewis IA, which is a short distance south of Atlantic. His wife's name was Millie. I enjoy your site, and would like more information on migration trails. One book said the trail between LaPorte IN and Momence IL was called the Hubbard Trail, but I haven't found anything more about it. Thanks for your good work. Mary Droege

I want to appoligize for changing address again in the last week. But I tried to use a local freebee. You pay for what you get. Extremly lousy service. It was a good thing I hadn't cancelled my other faith server internet. So please send everything back to my tcjohnson@sprintmail.com address. Cindi Johnson

Hello all, Re the John Fulton b 1713? mentioned below. Is this the John who is the immigrant written about by Hugh Ramsey Fulton in 1900? If so, according to HRF John's (1713) son James was born 1751, not 1791 per Jennifer. James had a son James Jefferson born 18 Feb 1801 on Big Elk Cr, Chester. James J married Nancy Ann Ramsey, daughter of Hugh Ramsey of East Nottingham. He continued to manufacture paper at Elk mills, McCrery's mill and Eshleman's mill in Lancaster county. Hope this is helpful to someone. Irene Fulton Roberta (Fulton) Hirth wrote: > I hope you have been following the notes on the list regarding > John Fulton b 1713 Sct, emigrated 1753 to Norristown, Chester Co, PA. > Jennifer Fulton <jenibear@swbell.net> states that his son > James Fulton b 1791 near Howard, Centre Co, PA, d 1850, > m Mary Ann McMullen. (I am still waiting for Jennifer to tell > us the source of her information). >

Does anyone have any information in their AL/MS lines about Jerusha Fulton b. about 1880 d. 1950 in Seven Hills, AL? She was married to John William Warren. Kathy katnbear@earthlink.net

Roberta, Truly a small world!!! My wife, Marge is a direct SHIRK descendant. Her Grandmother was a Shirk and we have been engaged in researching her family for a number of years. I don't pretend to be the genealogist, so I'm not sure of any connections, but we'll check it out and see where it leads. My what a tangled web we weave. Thanks, Bill "Roberta (Fulton) Hirth" wrote: > > Folks, > At the end of November, 1998, I received this note from Bob Fulton > and he also joined us at the 1999 Fulton reunion at Salt Lake City. > > "robert l fulton" <norway@raex.com> wrote: > > Hi my name is Bob Fulton and I'm a dentist in the Akron/Cleveland > > Ohio area. For a number of years I have been at a stone wall > > with my family tree around the 1860's. I have a great great > > grandmother Margaret Fulton appear as a passing entry to the > > Centre County PA census but she is a servant with a 3 year old > > in a Shirk Family whose wife is a Rebecca (Fulton) Shirk. They > > show no relationship to each other although I find that hard to > > believe. Some of the names in your web site are similar > > although not time or location correct. Do you have any indication of > > your side migrating to Centre County PA in the late 1700's or early > > 1800's? > > Thanks for your reply I'm sure we are cousins somewhere in time > > Bob Fulton > > Dear Bob, > Although we still do not know how your gr-gr-grandmother Margaret and > her three year old son fit into the Fulton groups in the area around > Bellefonte, Centre Co, PA, by studying the Fulton family for whom > she was a servant, we may get some leads. > > As I recall, at Salt Lake City we had discussed the significance > of the name Miles in your family and the Miles Cochran name in the > widow Agnes line as a possible lead. I have found some other > information > about Fultons in that area that may be helpful. > > I hope you have been following the notes on the list regarding > John Fulton b 1713 Sct, emigrated 1753 to Norristown, Chester Co, PA. > Jennifer Fulton <jenibear@swbell.net> states that his son > James Fulton b 1791 near Howard, Centre Co, PA, d 1850, > m Mary Ann McMullen. (I am still waiting for Jennifer to tell > us the source of her information). > > Review the following note on the Fulton-L archives: > > a) Subject: Norristown Fultons in PA ca 1753 > Dated: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 06:56:39 -0800 (PST) > which includes the note: > b) Subject: Peter McMullen Fulton 1869 IL > Dated: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 21:04:53 -0400 > > Mr. Leonard A. Fulton from Bothell, WA, was a Fulton > researcher who contributed data to the Fulton Newsletter > on the Peter M. Fulton of Jo Daviess Co, IL branch. > A few months ago by accident as I was filing papers, > I came across a letter he had written > 2 Sept 1983 to a J. Marvin Lee at State College, PA. > My sister Florence had discovered this letter when she was in > Bellfonte, PA doing some research on her husband's family (non-Fulton), > but briefly checked a Fulton file. > The location of the letter is: > Marvin Lee, Books 70-77B > Centre Co Library and Museum > Bellefonte, PA > > In this letter he mentions the following: > "I wrote to Dr. Parkinson and received a reply. > He is my third cousin, once removed. We have > exchanged much information. It seems that his > family, the Parkinsons moved to JoDaviess Co., Ill. prior > to my great uncle Peter Fulton. I found that my > grandfather Ira Fulton and James Parkinson III > joined Co. E of the 15th Illinois Infantry > on the same date May 24, 1861." > > Until I received your letter I had not realized that Hannah > had any children by her second husband. Dr. Parkinson > lists Centre Co. Estate File No. 3323 as the source for > the information of Hannah's maiden name Wardon and the names > of all the children, both McMullen and Parkinson. > > I also wrote to Janice L. Struble and my letter was returned > as she moved. I plan to write to Mr Ron Shirk to see if he > can help find her for me as he lives in Littleton, Colorado, too. > Sherk has written a book titled "Sherk-Shirk Freundschaft" > published in 1982. I am interested in the Shirks because > my great aunt Rebecca Fulton married Jacob Shirk of Centre Co." > > I had not realized that Leonard A. Fulton's research tied into the > Shirk family until reading this. So then I went to the Fulton > Family Newsletters. Shirk is not indexed in the newsletter, even > though it is mentioned. Leonard's data starts with James Fulton, > generation 1 listed below, and is found in the Fulton Family Letter > 1989 pages 12,13,14,17,18,19, 1990 page 72, 1991 page 26. He > references the book Portrait and Biographical Album, Jo Daviess > and Carroll Counties, Illinois, Capman Brothers, 1889, pages 719-721. > Notice that I am taking the time to type not only the names/ dates > but also the locations so we can see if there are any patterns > that tie-in to where your Margaret or subsequent generations > were located. > > John FULTON b 1713-? > 1753 settled near Norristown, PA > (waiting for Jennifer Fulton to list the source of this > that ties John as the father to James below) > > 1 James FULTON, b ca 1791 near Bald Eagle Creek near Howard, > current Centre Co., PA.; d 1850 in PA > + Mary Ann McMULLEN > b 1790,Sct/Ireland, dau of Robert & Rebecca (WORDEN) McMULLEN > natives of the North of Ireland. Father weaver by trade. > First settled in Baltimore in the shipyards. Later moved > to Centre Co, PA. > > 2 Sarah FULTON, b ca 1810 Centre Co, PA > a widow in 1889 living in Erie Co, PA > five sons served in Civil War all at the same time > + Ira JOHNSON of Genessee Co, NY > 2 Rebecca FULTON b 4 Aug 1817? Centre Co, PA > d 26 Jul 1892, buried Stover's Cem,Union Twp, Centre Co,PA > a widow in 1889 living near Milesburg, Centre Co, PA > six children living in 1889 (Milesburg is about 7 > miles SW of Howard) > + Jacob SCHURTZ/SHIRK of Centre Co, PA > 2 Peter M. FULTON b 5 Feb 1817 near Howard, Centre Co, PA > went to Jo Daviess Co, Ill. in 1841 or 1847 > settled 160 acres section 13 Pleasant Valley Township > many friends/relatives migrated too > PARKINSON family went before him > in politics a staunch Republican > member of the Union Club > + Caroline WHITEMAN b 1829 Vermillion Co, IL > dau of Abel and Nancy (COOK) WHITEMAN > m. 15 July 1847 Pleasant Valley, Jo Daviess Co, IL > 3 Nancy FULTON > + Edward STRONG in 1889 a farmer near Lena, > Stephenson Co, IL with seven children > (Clinton, Peter, Nellie, Samuel, Arthur, Ira, Caroline) > 3 Clarinda FULTON > + George RUBLE of Pleasant Valley, in 1889 a farmer near > Le Mars, Iowa > 3 Charles E. RUBLE > 3 Jacob RUBLE > 3 Hannah R. FULTON > + Allen LYLE a carpenter of PA > in 1889 have four children (Ross, Orrin, Lulu, Floyd) > 3 Geneva Vandalia FULTON > + Edward PARKER of Stockton Twp, a Superintendent > of the High School at Ramsy, IL, two children > (Cecil, Edith) > 3 Peter FULTON in 1889 attending school at Le Mars, Iowa > 3 George Edward FULTON-1889 attending school at home > 3 Rutherford HAYES FULTON-1889 attending school at > home > 2 Samuel FULTON b ca 1820 Centre Co, PA > in 1889 a farmer near Ada, Norman Co, MN > + Lizzie HUTCHINSON of Clarion Co, PA > all seven children living in 1889 > 2 James FULTON b 16 Aug 1827 Centre Co, PA > in 1889 a freighter in the mountains > d 2 Aug 1892 at home in Bellefonte, Centre Co, PA > buried Friends Cemetery, Bellfonte, Centre Co,PA > + Elizabeth "Lizzie" NEFF of Centre Co,PA, > d by 1889-three living childr > 2 Ira FULTON b 12 Jan 1839 Howard, Centre Co. PA > (grandfather of Leonard A.Fulton,Bothwell,WA). > Joined Co E of 15th Ill Infantry on 24 May 1861 with > James Parkinson III > in 1889 is a farmer in Kansas > d 3 Apr 1916 Old Soldier's Home, Burkett, NE > + Ellen MYERS b 5 Oct 1846 Pleasant Valley, Jo Daviess, IL > dau of Solomon MYERS of Pleasant Valley > Township, Jo Daviess Co, IL and Phoebe S. WILLAIM > m. 20 Apr 1864 Pleasant Valley, Jo Daviess Co, IL > d 8 Dec 1918 Blair, Washington Co, NE > 3 William E. FULTON b 13 Aug 1866 Decatur, Burt Co, NE > + Mary REEDER m. 24 Jul 1889 Niataze,,KS > 3 Harry Alfred FULTON b 26 Jul 1868 Decatur, Burt Co, NE > d. 24 Feb 1933 Lincoln, Lancaster Co , NE > buried Wyuka Cem, Lincoln,,NE > + Rosamond (Rose) LEBERT > dau of William R. LEBERT and Levina ADAMS > b 22 Nov 1879 Archer, Merrick Co, NE > d 5 Dec 1962 St Leonards, Calvert Co, MD > m 16 Jun 1899 Blair, Washington Co,NE > 4 Harold Robert FULTON > b 14 Apr 1900 Omaha, Douglas Co, NE > d 12 Dec 1966 So Haven, Van Buren, MI > + Ella JOHNSON (no children) > 4 Leslie Alfred FULTON > b 14 Aug 1902 Herman, Washington Co, NE > d 19 Aug 1976 Vista, San Diego Co, CA > + Kathleen BARTHOLMEW (no children) > 4 Gladys Mae FULTON > b 23 Dec 1903 Lincoln, Lancaster CO, NE > (originally Havelock Co annexed by Lincoln CO, NE) > 4 Lucille Mildred FULTON > b 29 May 1905 Lincoln, Lancaste Co, NE > + Earl A. BUNGOR m 29 Dec 1948 > 5 Lawrence BUNGOR > 5 Earl BUNGOR > 4 Dorothy Marion FULTON > b 13 Nov 1920 Lincoln, Lancaster CO, NE > 4 Clifford Edgar FULTON > b 7 Sept 1913 Lincoln, Lancaster Co, NE > d 25 Apr 1984 Beltsville, MD > + Mary Francis BYARS > 5 Nancy Eleanor FULTON > 5 Charles Robert FULTON > 4 Leonard Alvin FULTON b 22 Jan 1918 Lincoln, > Lancaster Co, NE > + Mary Elizabeth HAND m 1945 Wash D.C > 5 L. Warren FULTON > 5 Marie E. FULTON > 4 Warren Harding FULTON > b 3 Jan 1921 Lincoln, Lancaster Co. NE > d 25 Dec 1982 Carson City, Nevada > + w(1) Marion (no children > + w(2) Nelda BRISICH (one son) > 3 Eddie N. FULTON b 26 Jan 1870 Decatur, d 5 Feb 1870 > 3 Arthur Joseph FULTON b 20 Aug 1873 Everett Precinct, > Burt,NE, d 7 Aug 1919 Battle Creek, MI > + Ottena JENSEN m 22 Mar 1904 Argentina, South America > 3 Robert FULTON b 20 Apr 1876 Burt Co, NE > d 22 Sept 1879 ? > 3 Lillian P. FULTON b 5 Feb 1880 Montgomery Co, KS > 3 James Garfield FULTON b 15 Feb 1883 Independence, > Montgomery Co, Kansas > d Blair City Cemetery (Myers Plot) > + Clara CARTER m 2 Jan 1902 Ft Logan, Iowa > > Edwin Lackey <edwin113@aol.com. in note dated > 23 April 1997 listed his line as follows: > Peter McMullen Fulton b. Jo Daviess Co.,IL 1869 > d. 1916 Akron, IA > m. Melissa Ann Jeffers 1989 > close tie to Ruble family in PA > This probably fits into Leonard's data above under > "3 Peter FULTON in 1889 attending school at Le Mars, Iowa" > > Centre Co, PA was formed in 1800 from Lycoming Co, Mifflin Co > Northumberland Co, ?Huntingdon Co. (disagreement in my > reference books about Huntingdon). So if we wanted to look up > land records for a potential father of James Fulton b ca 1791 > near Bald Eagle Creek near Howard we would have to determine > what county Howard was in pre-1791 because its deeds will not > be in current Centre Co, PA. > > Also in the Fulton Newsletter 90:p39-40 and 90:p72 is > outlined another family in Centre Co, PA. On page 39 > it lists "source unknown, Photcopy of pages 351-353 with > 'Southeastern Nebraska' at the top of the page." It is > a biographical sketch of Wesley M. Fulton, so the source > may have been a history "mug" book that was common > in the late 1800s early 1900s. The information discussed > outlines the following relationships: > > 1 Jacob FULTON b PA > served war 1812, Scots-Irish extraction > 2 John R. FULTON > native of PA > lived Centre Co, PA > served Union forces in Civil War > a carpenter > moved to Trego Co, KS, living there now age 85 > member Methodist Church, Republican party > + Elizabeth BEALS > b PA of Welsh ancestry > d 1884 Wymore, NE > 3 Wesley M. FULTON > b Centre Co, PA about 54 years ago > as a boy lived in Centre Co and Indiana Co, PA > purchased farm 1883 Liberty twp, Gage Co, NE > farming, stockraising, real-estate, ins. business > repr. Mutual Ins Co of Nebraska > Democrat delegate at county and congressional conventions > 13 yrs member of school town board > served two terms assessor of Liberty Twpship > now serving as Justice of the Peace > lived Gage Co, NE past 20 years > + Lucinda ENTERLINE 23 Sept 1873 > dau of Daniel(b Dauphin Co,PA)/Lucinda (Shives) Enterline > b PA, reared Jefferson Co, PA > 4 Chandas FULTON, deceased > 4 Lillie N. FULTON > 4 Charles P. FULTON > 4 W.D. FULTON editor of the Liberty Journal > 4 John L. FULTON, deceased > 4 F.F. FULTON engaged in granite business in Wymore, NE > 4 Bessie L. FULTON > 4 Wilda B. FULTON > 4 George E. FULTON > 4 Ralph E. FULTON > 3 Fannie FULTON > 3 Cannarissa FULTON > 3 Ben FULTON twin > 3 Mary FULTON twin > 3 Steven FULTON > 3 Ed FULTON > 3 Arthur FULTON, deceased > 3 Emma FULTON deceased > > Bob, do you see any connections in the information above > that may provide some more clues to your line ? Please > tell us a little more about what you know regarding your Fultons. > > Roberta R. (Fulton) Hirth > Harriman, New York 10926 > > Fulton web page at: > http://www.frontiernet.net/~elisa96/hirth/fulton.htm\ > > Search Fulton-L archives at: > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl

Folks, At the end of November, 1998, I received this note from Bob Fulton and he also joined us at the 1999 Fulton reunion at Salt Lake City. "robert l fulton" <norway@raex.com> wrote: > Hi my name is Bob Fulton and I'm a dentist in the Akron/Cleveland > Ohio area. For a number of years I have been at a stone wall > with my family tree around the 1860's. I have a great great > grandmother Margaret Fulton appear as a passing entry to the > Centre County PA census but she is a servant with a 3 year old > in a Shirk Family whose wife is a Rebecca (Fulton) Shirk. They > show no relationship to each other although I find that hard to > believe. Some of the names in your web site are similar > although not time or location correct. Do you have any indication of > your side migrating to Centre County PA in the late 1700's or early > 1800's? > Thanks for your reply I'm sure we are cousins somewhere in time > Bob Fulton Dear Bob, Although we still do not know how your gr-gr-grandmother Margaret and her three year old son fit into the Fulton groups in the area around Bellefonte, Centre Co, PA, by studying the Fulton family for whom she was a servant, we may get some leads. As I recall, at Salt Lake City we had discussed the significance of the name Miles in your family and the Miles Cochran name in the widow Agnes line as a possible lead. I have found some other information about Fultons in that area that may be helpful. I hope you have been following the notes on the list regarding John Fulton b 1713 Sct, emigrated 1753 to Norristown, Chester Co, PA. Jennifer Fulton <jenibear@swbell.net> states that his son James Fulton b 1791 near Howard, Centre Co, PA, d 1850, m Mary Ann McMullen. (I am still waiting for Jennifer to tell us the source of her information). Review the following note on the Fulton-L archives: a) Subject: Norristown Fultons in PA ca 1753 Dated: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 06:56:39 -0800 (PST) which includes the note: b) Subject: Peter McMullen Fulton 1869 IL Dated: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 21:04:53 -0400 Mr. Leonard A. Fulton from Bothell, WA, was a Fulton researcher who contributed data to the Fulton Newsletter on the Peter M. Fulton of Jo Daviess Co, IL branch. A few months ago by accident as I was filing papers, I came across a letter he had written 2 Sept 1983 to a J. Marvin Lee at State College, PA. My sister Florence had discovered this letter when she was in Bellfonte, PA doing some research on her husband's family (non-Fulton), but briefly checked a Fulton file. The location of the letter is: Marvin Lee, Books 70-77B Centre Co Library and Museum Bellefonte, PA In this letter he mentions the following: "I wrote to Dr. Parkinson and received a reply. He is my third cousin, once removed. We have exchanged much information. It seems that his family, the Parkinsons moved to JoDaviess Co., Ill. prior to my great uncle Peter Fulton. I found that my grandfather Ira Fulton and James Parkinson III joined Co. E of the 15th Illinois Infantry on the same date May 24, 1861." Until I received your letter I had not realized that Hannah had any children by her second husband. Dr. Parkinson lists Centre Co. Estate File No. 3323 as the source for the information of Hannah's maiden name Wardon and the names of all the children, both McMullen and Parkinson. I also wrote to Janice L. Struble and my letter was returned as she moved. I plan to write to Mr Ron Shirk to see if he can help find her for me as he lives in Littleton, Colorado, too. Sherk has written a book titled "Sherk-Shirk Freundschaft" published in 1982. I am interested in the Shirks because my great aunt Rebecca Fulton married Jacob Shirk of Centre Co." I had not realized that Leonard A. Fulton's research tied into the Shirk family until reading this. So then I went to the Fulton Family Newsletters. Shirk is not indexed in the newsletter, even though it is mentioned. Leonard's data starts with James Fulton, generation 1 listed below, and is found in the Fulton Family Letter 1989 pages 12,13,14,17,18,19, 1990 page 72, 1991 page 26. He references the book Portrait and Biographical Album, Jo Daviess and Carroll Counties, Illinois, Capman Brothers, 1889, pages 719-721. Notice that I am taking the time to type not only the names/ dates but also the locations so we can see if there are any patterns that tie-in to where your Margaret or subsequent generations were located. John FULTON b 1713-? 1753 settled near Norristown, PA (waiting for Jennifer Fulton to list the source of this that ties John as the father to James below) 1 James FULTON, b ca 1791 near Bald Eagle Creek near Howard, current Centre Co., PA.; d 1850 in PA + Mary Ann McMULLEN b 1790,Sct/Ireland, dau of Robert & Rebecca (WORDEN) McMULLEN natives of the North of Ireland. Father weaver by trade. First settled in Baltimore in the shipyards. Later moved to Centre Co, PA. 2 Sarah FULTON, b ca 1810 Centre Co, PA a widow in 1889 living in Erie Co, PA five sons served in Civil War all at the same time + Ira JOHNSON of Genessee Co, NY 2 Rebecca FULTON b 4 Aug 1817? Centre Co, PA d 26 Jul 1892, buried Stover's Cem,Union Twp, Centre Co,PA a widow in 1889 living near Milesburg, Centre Co, PA six children living in 1889 (Milesburg is about 7 miles SW of Howard) + Jacob SCHURTZ/SHIRK of Centre Co, PA 2 Peter M. FULTON b 5 Feb 1817 near Howard, Centre Co, PA went to Jo Daviess Co, Ill. in 1841 or 1847 settled 160 acres section 13 Pleasant Valley Township many friends/relatives migrated too PARKINSON family went before him in politics a staunch Republican member of the Union Club + Caroline WHITEMAN b 1829 Vermillion Co, IL dau of Abel and Nancy (COOK) WHITEMAN m. 15 July 1847 Pleasant Valley, Jo Daviess Co, IL 3 Nancy FULTON + Edward STRONG in 1889 a farmer near Lena, Stephenson Co, IL with seven children (Clinton, Peter, Nellie, Samuel, Arthur, Ira, Caroline) 3 Clarinda FULTON + George RUBLE of Pleasant Valley, in 1889 a farmer near Le Mars, Iowa 3 Charles E. RUBLE 3 Jacob RUBLE 3 Hannah R. FULTON + Allen LYLE a carpenter of PA in 1889 have four children (Ross, Orrin, Lulu, Floyd) 3 Geneva Vandalia FULTON + Edward PARKER of Stockton Twp, a Superintendent of the High School at Ramsy, IL, two children (Cecil, Edith) 3 Peter FULTON in 1889 attending school at Le Mars, Iowa 3 George Edward FULTON-1889 attending school at home 3 Rutherford HAYES FULTON-1889 attending school at home 2 Samuel FULTON b ca 1820 Centre Co, PA in 1889 a farmer near Ada, Norman Co, MN + Lizzie HUTCHINSON of Clarion Co, PA all seven children living in 1889 2 James FULTON b 16 Aug 1827 Centre Co, PA in 1889 a freighter in the mountains d 2 Aug 1892 at home in Bellefonte, Centre Co, PA buried Friends Cemetery, Bellfonte, Centre Co,PA + Elizabeth "Lizzie" NEFF of Centre Co,PA, d by 1889-three living childr 2 Ira FULTON b 12 Jan 1839 Howard, Centre Co. PA (grandfather of Leonard A.Fulton,Bothwell,WA). Joined Co E of 15th Ill Infantry on 24 May 1861 with James Parkinson III in 1889 is a farmer in Kansas d 3 Apr 1916 Old Soldier's Home, Burkett, NE + Ellen MYERS b 5 Oct 1846 Pleasant Valley, Jo Daviess, IL dau of Solomon MYERS of Pleasant Valley Township, Jo Daviess Co, IL and Phoebe S. WILLAIM m. 20 Apr 1864 Pleasant Valley, Jo Daviess Co, IL d 8 Dec 1918 Blair, Washington Co, NE 3 William E. FULTON b 13 Aug 1866 Decatur, Burt Co, NE + Mary REEDER m. 24 Jul 1889 Niataze,,KS 3 Harry Alfred FULTON b 26 Jul 1868 Decatur, Burt Co, NE d. 24 Feb 1933 Lincoln, Lancaster Co , NE buried Wyuka Cem, Lincoln,,NE + Rosamond (Rose) LEBERT dau of William R. LEBERT and Levina ADAMS b 22 Nov 1879 Archer, Merrick Co, NE d 5 Dec 1962 St Leonards, Calvert Co, MD m 16 Jun 1899 Blair, Washington Co,NE 4 Harold Robert FULTON b 14 Apr 1900 Omaha, Douglas Co, NE d 12 Dec 1966 So Haven, Van Buren, MI + Ella JOHNSON (no children) 4 Leslie Alfred FULTON b 14 Aug 1902 Herman, Washington Co, NE d 19 Aug 1976 Vista, San Diego Co, CA + Kathleen BARTHOLMEW (no children) 4 Gladys Mae FULTON b 23 Dec 1903 Lincoln, Lancaster CO, NE (originally Havelock Co annexed by Lincoln CO, NE) 4 Lucille Mildred FULTON b 29 May 1905 Lincoln, Lancaste Co, NE + Earl A. BUNGOR m 29 Dec 1948 5 Lawrence BUNGOR 5 Earl BUNGOR 4 Dorothy Marion FULTON b 13 Nov 1920 Lincoln, Lancaster CO, NE 4 Clifford Edgar FULTON b 7 Sept 1913 Lincoln, Lancaster Co, NE d 25 Apr 1984 Beltsville, MD + Mary Francis BYARS 5 Nancy Eleanor FULTON 5 Charles Robert FULTON 4 Leonard Alvin FULTON b 22 Jan 1918 Lincoln, Lancaster Co, NE + Mary Elizabeth HAND m 1945 Wash D.C 5 L. Warren FULTON 5 Marie E. FULTON 4 Warren Harding FULTON b 3 Jan 1921 Lincoln, Lancaster Co. NE d 25 Dec 1982 Carson City, Nevada + w(1) Marion (no children + w(2) Nelda BRISICH (one son) 3 Eddie N. FULTON b 26 Jan 1870 Decatur, d 5 Feb 1870 3 Arthur Joseph FULTON b 20 Aug 1873 Everett Precinct, Burt,NE, d 7 Aug 1919 Battle Creek, MI + Ottena JENSEN m 22 Mar 1904 Argentina, South America 3 Robert FULTON b 20 Apr 1876 Burt Co, NE d 22 Sept 1879 ? 3 Lillian P. FULTON b 5 Feb 1880 Montgomery Co, KS 3 James Garfield FULTON b 15 Feb 1883 Independence, Montgomery Co, Kansas d Blair City Cemetery (Myers Plot) + Clara CARTER m 2 Jan 1902 Ft Logan, Iowa Edwin Lackey <edwin113@aol.com. in note dated 23 April 1997 listed his line as follows: Peter McMullen Fulton b. Jo Daviess Co.,IL 1869 d. 1916 Akron, IA m. Melissa Ann Jeffers 1989 close tie to Ruble family in PA This probably fits into Leonard's data above under "3 Peter FULTON in 1889 attending school at Le Mars, Iowa" Centre Co, PA was formed in 1800 from Lycoming Co, Mifflin Co Northumberland Co, ?Huntingdon Co. (disagreement in my reference books about Huntingdon). So if we wanted to look up land records for a potential father of James Fulton b ca 1791 near Bald Eagle Creek near Howard we would have to determine what county Howard was in pre-1791 because its deeds will not be in current Centre Co, PA. Also in the Fulton Newsletter 90:p39-40 and 90:p72 is outlined another family in Centre Co, PA. On page 39 it lists "source unknown, Photcopy of pages 351-353 with 'Southeastern Nebraska' at the top of the page." It is a biographical sketch of Wesley M. Fulton, so the source may have been a history "mug" book that was common in the late 1800s early 1900s. The information discussed outlines the following relationships: 1 Jacob FULTON b PA served war 1812, Scots-Irish extraction 2 John R. FULTON native of PA lived Centre Co, PA served Union forces in Civil War a carpenter moved to Trego Co, KS, living there now age 85 member Methodist Church, Republican party + Elizabeth BEALS b PA of Welsh ancestry d 1884 Wymore, NE 3 Wesley M. FULTON b Centre Co, PA about 54 years ago as a boy lived in Centre Co and Indiana Co, PA purchased farm 1883 Liberty twp, Gage Co, NE farming, stockraising, real-estate, ins. business repr. Mutual Ins Co of Nebraska Democrat delegate at county and congressional conventions 13 yrs member of school town board served two terms assessor of Liberty Twpship now serving as Justice of the Peace lived Gage Co, NE past 20 years + Lucinda ENTERLINE 23 Sept 1873 dau of Daniel(b Dauphin Co,PA)/Lucinda (Shives) Enterline b PA, reared Jefferson Co, PA 4 Chandas FULTON, deceased 4 Lillie N. FULTON 4 Charles P. FULTON 4 W.D. FULTON editor of the Liberty Journal 4 John L. FULTON, deceased 4 F.F. FULTON engaged in granite business in Wymore, NE 4 Bessie L. FULTON 4 Wilda B. FULTON 4 George E. FULTON 4 Ralph E. FULTON 3 Fannie FULTON 3 Cannarissa FULTON 3 Ben FULTON twin 3 Mary FULTON twin 3 Steven FULTON 3 Ed FULTON 3 Arthur FULTON, deceased 3 Emma FULTON deceased Bob, do you see any connections in the information above that may provide some more clues to your line ? Please tell us a little more about what you know regarding your Fultons. Roberta R. (Fulton) Hirth Harriman, New York 10926 Fulton web page at: http://www.frontiernet.net/~elisa96/hirth/fulton.htm\ Search Fulton-L archives at: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl

Posted on: FULTON Queries Board URL: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/surnames/f/u/FULTON/queries?read=7 Surname: fulton ------------------------- needing any info on andy fulton father of willis fulton..seems to of disappeared.please help!!

Hi James, I am responding to your post via our list, so that others who might have the same question can read it. When I was in Scotland, researching, I came across this article and found it most interesting that even after 70 plus years after Robert Fulton , of the Steamboat fame, died people were still trying to piece out the family background on him. My ancestor James Fulton, born 7 August 1739, left Scotland in 1782 and landed in America in 1783. He started the Fulton Settlement of Bethel NY. He purchased around 850 acres ( as his tombstone states: " An aged man, I made my way from Scotland to America, and after a many a toilsome day, I purchased land wherein I lay".) If you are interested you can read all about James and I @ our web site: www.frontiernet.net/~elisa96/hirth/fulton.htm\. In his memoir, James stated he met a young man by the name of Robert Fulton, going up the North river, this young man was working on some form of steam navigation and after talking with one another they concluded they shared a common ancestor Henry Fulton of Derry, Ireland ( according to James Fulton, Henry Fulton was his half uncle and that same Henry Fulton was Robert Fulton's grandfather. Hope you are looking forward to part 2. Florence fwolfe@frintiernet.net -----Original Message----- From: JamesJoy97@aol.com <JamesJoy97@aol.com> To: fwolfe@frontiernet.net <fwolfe@frontiernet.net> Date: Friday, April 21, 2000 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [FULTON] Fw: Robert Fulton - Steamboat\Ayrshire Man? Part 1 >When did your Robert Fulton christened? > >My Robert Fulton christened 7 Jun 1774 and other Robert Dec 1800, other >Robert 6 June 1834.. > >James >

Hi James, I am responding to your question thru the list, as there might be others who have a like question. I am putting this article on this list, more for a discussion topic. When I read it in Scotland, I thought others might find it interesting to read, also. My ancestor who left Scotland in 1882 and came to America in 1783, is James Fulton of the Fulton Settelment of Bethel NY. see the web page -----Original Message----- From: JamesJoy97@aol.com <JamesJoy97@aol.com> To: fwolfe@frontiernet.net <fwolfe@frontiernet.net> Date: Friday, April 21, 2000 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [FULTON] Fw: Robert Fulton - Steamboat\Ayrshire Man? Part 1 >When did your Robert Fulton christened? > >My Robert Fulton christened 7 Jun 1774 and other Robert Dec 1800, other >Robert 6 June 1834.. > >James >

Greetings to all, In respnose to the post Irene Fulton wrote below, I will present, in parts, an article which appeared in the Kilmarnock Standard dated 27 August 1881. When my sister, Roberta, & I went back to Scotland in 1996, we did research in The Dick Institute, at Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, Scotland. This is the article which I found most interesting: ( Please keep in mind the print was badly blurred in the microfilming and some words or unreadable, I will put a _____ when I can't read the word\words.) Florence Fulton Wolfe >-----Original Message----- >From: Forrest Fulton <fifulton@earthlink.net> >To: FULTON-L@rootsweb.com <FULTON-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Saturday, April 01, 2000 2:22 AM >Subject: Robert Fulton - Steamboat >>Hello, >>Last June I was in SLC and looked at the book, Ayshire, The >>Story of the County by John Stawhorn, Ayrshire Archaeological >>& Natural History Society 1975. FHL 941.42 H25j >>>>p 113 - Steam navigation had been pioneered in Scotland and >>among its progenitors was James Taylor who was born in >>Leadhill in 1758 & spent the latter years of his life from 1770 >>til 1825 as a mining engineer in Cummoch. The idea was taken >>to America by ROBERT FULTON himself of Ayrshire >>farming stock and developed here by Henry Bell whose Comet >>in 1812 began regular service on the Clyde. >> >>In the Ayrshire areas of Kilmarnock, Kilmaurs and Fenwick >>I did not find any Fultons in the marriages or births which >>would lead me to think of Robert Fulton's family. If they >>were from Ayrshire, it was some other area. >> >>Irene Fulton >*********************************************************** >From the Kilmarnock Standard 27 August 1881- Ayrshire Notes & Queries. ROBERT FULTON THE AMERICAN ENGINEER. Letter from Mr Cochran-Patrick MP. ( To the Editor of the Kilmarnock Standard) _____ Woodside, Beith, 22 Aug '81. Sir, your note about the birthplace of Robert Fulton raises a very curious point which is not yet settled. Some years ago, my late friend, Mr W S Lindsay, the author of the extensive and well known work on Merchant Shipping, made a careful examination of the question, but without a satisfactory result. The note he made will be found on page 387 ?(587) of his vol IV, which I herewith send in case you may wish to____ it for the information of your readers. I would be glad to hear if any new light can be thrown upon the matter, and more especially if we can come to a satisfactorily claim Fulton was an Ayrshire man. I remain, sir, your obdt servt, R. Cochran-Patrick The following is the note referred to; In the life of Henry Bell by ? Morris, Glasgow 1844, there is the following letter from Mr Bell to a Mr John McNeill, It is dated Helensburg, 1st March 1824, and is as follows: "Sir, I this morning was favored with your letter. In reply to your inquiry, respecting the late Robert Fulton, the American engineer, his father was a native of Ayrshire, but of what town or district I can not say. He went to America where his son Robert was born.." As Aryshire is my own native country, curious to ascertin if the Robert Fulton of whom Henry Bell writes was any conection of an old man named Fulton who rented a farm belonging to Lord Ailse in the district of Carrick about four miles from the town of Aye where I was born, and where also I was educated under a very dear uncle the Rev. William So???, after whom I was named. Old Fulton (or rather old "Ballie", which was the name of his farm and that by which he himself was better known) and his family was members of the United Presbyterian Church, of which my uncle was minster. On his ministerial visits to Ballib, I used, as a boy, frequently to accompany him, perhaps, more for the good fare which was produced on those occasions than for anything else. Old Ballie or Fulton __ __( 1827-1829) a man of somewhere about 80 years of age, and I remember he frequently spoke of an elder brother who had settled in America whose son became a "great man," What that greatness consisted of, I do not recollect, but as it was something in my boyish days had,with the good fares, made a lasting impression on my mind, it came fresh to my recollection when I read the letter I have just quoted in the life of Henry Bell, and I wondered if the "great man," the nephew of old Ballig, was the Robert Fulton of the world wide fame. Through my friend Mr T M Geineil(?) of Ayr, I ascertained that the grandson of the old man whom I knew now occupied the farm Ballig, from this person, however, no reliable information could be obtained as to the position or fate of his ancestors. Perhaps, that was not suprishing, as the schollmaster does not appear to have paid many visits to Ballig since the days of my boyhood, Resolved to trace the matter still futher, I applied to my friend and school compaion Mr H G Reid of the H M Stationary Office, who, from his literary ___ as editor of his father-in-law's great work "McCulloch's Commercial Dictionary", readily lent a helping hand! He in turn applied to his friends in Scotland and among others to a Mr. Cochran-Patrick of Woodside, in the parish of Beith, Ayrshire, where the Fulton usally appear to have their orgin. Mr Patrick, himself, a getleman of considerable literary__ __ and ___ __ antiquarian respectfuly heartly joined us on our voyage of__ and with some trouble found a Mr James Stevenson, residing on his own property in Lockwinock, who said he knew all about the Fulton family and who made the following statement in writing, which I give in his own words as follows: To be continued.... Florence fwolfe@frontiernet.net

Folks, Enclosed below is an entry that appeared on the NorthernIreland mailing list that outlines the Fultons that are documented in the Griffiths Valuation in Antrim, Northern Ireland. The Griffith's Valuation Survey was compiled between 1848 and 1864. All the land of Ireland was surveyed for the purpose of establishing the local tax rate to be paid by each landholder or leaseholder. The information collected included the name of the landholder or leaseholder and listed the townland, a description of the property, the landlord, and the annual tax amount. Although it does not cover all inhabitants of the area, it is used a a census substitute. A map of the parishes in Antrim is at: http://proni.nics.gov.uk/geogindx/antr.htm If you click on the parish name, a list of townlands in that parish along with the Ordance Survey Map reference (OS Map Ref) is listed. If you had a Townland name but did not know where it is located, the IreAtlas Townland database is located at: http://www.seanruad.com/ You can enter the parish and county and it will show you all the Townland names in that parish. Or you can enter the townland to find out where it is located. The name of the landlord can help you to determine what estate records for that landlord may exist. See data at: http://proni.nics.gov.uk/geogindx/town.htm#antrim which is the Public Record Office of Northern Ireland database on Townlands by Major Estates. With this information, you can do some cursory "armchair" genealogy and plot the parishes where the Fulton surname occurs on the parish map. Notice the Fultons are not evenly distributed in the county Antrim, but occur in several clusters: a) Northwest Antrim on the border of counties Londonderry and Antrim along the River Bann. In this context, these Fultons could be associated with families from Coleraine and Dunboe. b) Southeast Antrim in the Lisburn/Belfast area and along the River Lagan. There is a lot of information in the archives on the Lisburn Fultons. A map of Northern Ireland showing major towns is at: http://www.fortunecity.com/bally/sligo/93/maps/ni_towns.gif will help you see how Antrim fits into the bigger picture. Roberta R. (Fulton) Hirth Harriman, New York 10926 Fulton web page at: http://www.frontiernet.net/~elisa96/hirth/fulton.htm\ Search Fulton-L archives at: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl ************************************************************ Subject: [NIRGW] Griffiths Valuation - FULTON, Antrim Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 07:05:42 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: NorthernIrelandGenWeb-L@rootsweb.com Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 10:05:03 EDT From: CDuclos@aol.com To: NorthernIrelandGenWeb-L@rootsweb.com Hi Found a LARGE number of FULTON listings in Antrim. By Parish: AGHALEE: Hugh AHOGHILL: James ARMOY: Andrew Jr, Andrew Sr, Archibald, Hugh, Hugh Jr, Hugh Sr, and William J. BALLINDERRY: John and Joseph BALLYLINNY: Samuel BALLYMARTIN: Samuel BALLYMONEY: John BALLYNURE: William (2) BALLYRASHANE: David and John. BILLY: Anne, John, and Margaret. BLARIS: Maria and William CARNMONEY: David (2), Jane, John (2), Nathaniel and Samuel. CARRICKFERGUS: David and William CRAIGS: Thomas DERRYKEIGHAN: Archibald, Catherine and Hugh. DRUMMAUL: George and Robert DUNEANE: George (3), Jane, John (3), John Jr. and John Sr. DUNLUCE: Hugh and John GRANGE of DUNDERMOT: Jackson GRANGE of NILTEEN: John J. KILBRIDGE: John KILRAGHTS: William LAMBEG: Robert LOUGHGUILE: Andrew, James, William (2). MAGHERAMESK: Robert PORTGLENONE: John RAMOAN: Margaret RASHARKIN: Robert SHANKILL: David (3), Henry, Hugh, John (7), Joseph (4), Margaret (2), Martha, Matthew, Robert (2), Samuel, Thomas, and William (2). TEMPLEPATRICK: John and William Do you want more information on any of these? Chris D.

In our Fulton research, we often are faced with the challenge of separating multiple Johns, James, Alexander Fultons located in the same area. I highly recommend the following article to help us with the problem. It outlines a lot of good solid advice on this topic. “SEPARATING MEN OF THE SAME NAME,” by Patricia Law Hatcher http://www.ancestry.com/library/view/news/articles/903.asp Roberta R. (Fulton) Hirth Harriman, New York 10926 Fulton web page at: http://www.frontiernet.net/~elisa96/hirth/fulton.htm\ Search Fulton-L archives at: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl

Another Fulton site with Iowa ties is http://www.yawp.com/fulton I'm working on generations 5 and 6 now and we may find some connection with Charles A. I'll be happy to do anything that I can to help Charlene. Edith Fulton Stone estone@yawp.com

Continuing with the Fulton & Wynkoop families of Loudoun Co, VA... Susan Wetzl of Virginia has submitted more information pertaining to the Fultons of Loudoun County, Virginia. * * * Hugh Fulton purchased 141 acres on south side of "Kellerton" [sic, probably Katocktin] Mountains from John Quee, farmer of Loudoun Co, and wife Susannah. Witnesses: Rneas Campbell, Henry Oxley, William McGeath, Minor Smith Book M, Page 223, recorded 8 March 1779 * * * Recall that Robert Fulton purchased land of the Oxley family in 1775. Robert Fulton witnessed the will of Henry Oxley in 1776 which he also proved in 1777. (By the way, a transcript of the Henry Oxley Will does NOT include a middle initial "F" for witness Robert Fulton. Recall that Carol Proctor found Charles Tavener's abstract that stated that "Robert F. Fulton" witnessed Oxley's will in 1776. An Oxley transcriber did not see the middle initial in their photocopy of the recorded document.) Hugh Fulton paid taxes at Loudoun County, Virginia, as early as 1768. This new deed found by Susan proves that Hugh Fulton was also acquainted with the Oxley family. In 1779, Henry Oxley [Jr.] witnessed Hugh Fulton's purchase of the Quee land in Loudoun County. Other interesting facts: These three men may be contemporaries: Robert Fulton of Loudoun County, VA, died 1798. David Fulton of Berkeley County, VA, died 1799. Hugh Fulton of Loudoun County, VA, died 1803. All three men had sons named David Fulton: Hugh Fulton named his oldest son David Fulton. Robert Fulton named his oldest son David Fulton. David Fulton Jr. was one administrator of the estate of David Fulton of Berkeley County. Interesting, don't you think? Patrice (Fulton) Stark Lone Tree, Colorado

>From the "Dispelling Fulton Myths" department... Samuel Fulton who died 1821 at Guilford County, North Carolina, is NOT the son of Alexander Fulton who died 1762 at Cecil Co, Maryland! Yes, someone (?) erroneously concluded that there were only two Samuel Fultons living in America in 1778! Further, in order to force a fat foot into a glass slipper, this unknown writer killed off Jane, wife of Samuel Fulton of Maryland, in order to explain Mary, widow of Samuel Fulton of North Carolina. With this kind of logic, who needs genealogy? * * * * * Who was Samuel Fulton, son of Alexander Fulton of Cecil Co. Maryland? A search of records of Cecil County, Maryland, shows that Samuel Fulton, administrator of Alexander Fulton, owned land as early as 1762 and lived in Cecil County until at least 1773. Beginning in December 1773, Samuel Fulton is referred to as of "York Co, PA" in the Maryland records. Samuel appears in numerous court records because he was the administrator for his father, Alexander, as well as his two older brothers, John and Francis. He was the guardian for John's four orphaned children and he owned several tracts of land in his own name, both in Maryland and in Pennsylvania. The last date this Samuel Fulton personally signed a document in Cecil County, Maryland, was 6 August 1779. So, the first step in dispelling this Fulton myth is to prove that Samuel Fulton, son of Alexander Fulton, is the same man who purchased a grist mill and saw mill on Fishing Creek in Fawn Township, York County, PA. On 4 January 1773, Samuel Fulton and Jane, his wife of Cecil County, Maryland, sold 113 acres of the "Resurvey of Dougherty's Desire" to William Arbuckle (Cecil Co. Land Records, BY2, folio 105.) On 3 May 1773, Samuel Fulton and wife Jane purchased a grist mill and saw mill on Fishing Creek in Fawn Twp, York Co, PA, from the heirs of Robert Taylor. (Identified in York Co, Deed Book 2L, p 310, dated 18 Dec 1778.) On 6 August 1779, Samuel Fulton of York County, Pennsylvania, sold to William and Alexander Ewing, of Cecil County, Maryland, 50 acres of the "Resurvey of Doughterty's Desire." (Cecil Co. Land Records, BY4, folio 324.) The next step in dispelling this Fulton myth is to show that Samuel Fulton, son of Alexander Fulton, was alive and signing documents at the same time Samuel Fulton of Guilford County, North Carolina, was alive and signing documents. One man could not possibly be in two geographically-separated places at the same time in 1778. * * * * * Who was Samuel Fulton of Guilford County, North Carolina? Samuel Fulton of Guilford County, North Carolina, died between August and November 1821, and owned land on the Reedy Fork of the Haw River. This Samuel Fulton acquired title to his land from the State of North Carolina beginning in January 1778. * * * * * Dispelling the Myth A chronological list of recorded documents for both Samuels proves that Samuel Fulton, son and administrator of Alexander Fulton of Cecil County, Maryland, could NOT possibly be Samuel Fulton of Guilford County, North Carolina. They are two separate individuals. 16 Dec 1778, Samuel Fulton of Guilford Co, NC, records NC State Warrant #1087 for 640 acres of land on the Reedy Fork of the Haw River. 2 days later... 18 Dec 1778, Samuel Fulton and wife Jane of Fawn Twp, York Co, PA, sell their land including the grist mill to William Cooper at York Co, PA. the next month... 29 Jan 1779, Samuel Fulton of Guilford Co, NC, obtains NC State Warrant #1252 for 250 acres on the waters of the Reedy Fork of the Haw River. 8 days later... 6 Feb 1779, Samuel Fulton of Fawn Twp, York Co, PA, signs deed to William Cooper for 18 additional acres. Bonus from York County deed books: On 27 Feb 1788, Samuel Fulton's son James Fulton confirmed the earlier 1779 sale to William Cooper in York County, Pennsylvania. Samuel Fulton's son James Fulton was at least 21 years old on this date which is yet another proof that there were two Samuel Fultons. James Fulton, son of Samuel Fulton of Guilford County, NC, was born in 1781. (Based on family Bible records.) * * * * * This is just one example of Fulton misinformation circling the globe. You will find perfectly useless family information in the LDS Family History collection, in the Family Tree Maker CD's and web sites, and in numerous Fulton web pages. Unlike red wine that improves with age, garbage genealogy reeks like vinegar. However, you can't tell the difference between a fine wine and vinegar until you uncork the bottle and take a whiff. Are you game? Patrice (Fulton) Stark Lone Tree, Colorado

Charleen Buswell <buz1011@yahoo.com> wrote: > Trying to trace the family tree. I know that my father > Charles Jay Fulton was born near Hamberg, Iowa. He did > not keep in touch with his parents. We don't have the > names of his parents. How do I get started? Dear Charleen, Your query came to me as listadm as an error - you need to send your query to fulton-l@rootsweb.com rather than to fulton-l-request@rootsweb.com I would suggest you re-submit your query, but please give more details about your Father's dates of birth, marriage, death, name of spouse, names of children, where he lived, names of any of his brothers or sisters. Someone on the list may know of the family. I am assuming that you or any of his living relatives do not know of any of your father's brothers or sisters and that his obit and death certificate were filled out by relatives who did not know his parents. If that is true, then I suggest you try to obtain his birth certificate instead. I could not find a place called Hamberg in Iowa, but there is a Hamburg in Freemont Co, Iowa. Addresses for writing for U.S. vital statistics can be found at: http://www.vitalrec.com/ Another source is the National Center for Health Statistics at http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/howto/w2w/w2welcom.htm Or Go directly to the web page http://www.vitalrec.com/ia.html to fill in an order form for requesting birth certificates from Iowa. Event: Birth or death Cost of copy: $10.00 Address: Iowa Department of Public Health Vital Records Section Lucas Office Building 321 East 12th Street Des Moines, IA 50319-0075 Remarks: State office has had records since July 1880. Check or money order should be made payable to Iowa Department of Public Health. To verify current fees, the telephone number is (515) 281-4944. This will be a recorded message. Information on how to obtain certified copies is also available via the internet at Iowa Department of Public Health. Also there are several free online education lessons to help you get started. I suggest the following: 1) ROOTSWEB'S GUIDE TO TRACING FAMILY TREES Links to the 30 interactive lessons. Index page: <http://www.rootsweb.com/~rwguide/> 2) Family Tree Maker Lessons at: http://www.familytreemaker.com/university.html 3) Dear Myrtle Lessons at: http://www.dearmyrtle.com/lessons.htm 4) Genealogy 101 Keely's Lessons at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~mskeelyk/keely1.htm 5) Cyndi's Tips for Getting Started http://www.cyndislist.com/faq/newbies.htm Good luck in your research. Please keep the list informed of your results. Roberta R. (Fulton) Hirth Harriman, New York 10926 Fulton web page at: http://www.frontiernet.net/~elisa96/hirth/fulton.htm\ Search Fulton-L archives at: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl