----- Original Message ----- From: <ES4152@aol.com> To: <FULLER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 3:49 AM Subject: Re: Colonial Fullers DNA Project Update > Dear Katherine, > We were really short of male Fullers around these parts. In our > Fuller > family, (my mother) there was only one brother and in their > father's family, he was > the only child ... of course he is deceased now. > After reading the article, I wonder how a decent DNA comparison can > be done > in situations like this? > Just curious. > > Thanks, > Mary Smith Dear Mary and Fuller List, (Since Mary's e-mail went to the list, and some of you might be wondering about the answer to her question, I thought I'd also reply to the list.) My purpose in sending out the NGS article is twofold: 1. To illustrate the need to have Fuller males with known lineage to participate as "benchmarks". They become the standard with which to make comparisons to. And 2. I agree with the article that two people cannot be deemed "unrelated" when you only have one set of DNA markers to compare to. I feel we need at least TWO, if not more, benchmark testers that need to match each other, to be able to make lineage determinations for the unconnected Fuller lines. #12 on Family Tree DNA's faq page: http://www.familytreedna.com/faq.html states that "The chance that a match does not exist due to infidelity or unreported adoptions occurs 2%-5% of the time per generation." While that's a very low percentage, it is out there, and I want to eliminate it's chances of affecting matches to benchmark testers. As of right now, I only have good news for you.... because of the 12/12 marker match to the Fuller in Oklahoma, what that says is that there was a common ancestor in the last 14.5 to 48 generations! (See #16 on the faq page) America wasn't even colonized by the Europeans in this time period. Now if the results come back a close match on the 13-25 markers, then we can surmise that there was a common FULLER ancestor in the last 7 to 19.8 generations. What our goal is for your line, is to discover what early Fuller branch you're connected to. If it's Nehemiah Fuller, then we need descendants of his son, James, to test. In reading "Early Southern Fullers", James seems to be the only one of the sons that has a "concrete" connection to Nehemiah. The words "appear to be" and "probable" are used in the book on all of Nehemiah's sons, except James, Jesse and Elijah, but with Jesse and Elijah, you've got references #144 and #151. I was told that there are Fuller males descended from James still living in Huntington, Carroll Co. TN and we need them to DNA test as Nehemiah benchmarks. (This might be a situation where donations to the General Fund would be used. People aren't too receptive to paying for DNA testing if they have no interest in their genealogy.) ~Katherine Colonial Fullers DNA Project Admin.