In a message dated 10/14/04 7:04:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ES4152@aol.com writes: << After reading the article, I wonder how a decent DNA comparison can be done in situations like this? >> A lot of people still do not own a computer. Have you ever thought about doing a mailing or making a few phone calls to people with the last name of FULLER? A couple of my friends and I were driving around once and saw the last name of a surname we were all researching. We saw the name on a mailbox and stopped and talked to the old couple. It was a nice find and we got some information.

----- Original Message ----- From: <ES4152@aol.com> To: <FULLER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 3:49 AM Subject: Re: Colonial Fullers DNA Project Update > Dear Katherine, > We were really short of male Fullers around these parts. In our > Fuller > family, (my mother) there was only one brother and in their > father's family, he was > the only child ... of course he is deceased now. > After reading the article, I wonder how a decent DNA comparison can > be done > in situations like this? > Just curious. > > Thanks, > Mary Smith Dear Mary and Fuller List, (Since Mary's e-mail went to the list, and some of you might be wondering about the answer to her question, I thought I'd also reply to the list.) My purpose in sending out the NGS article is twofold: 1. To illustrate the need to have Fuller males with known lineage to participate as "benchmarks". They become the standard with which to make comparisons to. And 2. I agree with the article that two people cannot be deemed "unrelated" when you only have one set of DNA markers to compare to. I feel we need at least TWO, if not more, benchmark testers that need to match each other, to be able to make lineage determinations for the unconnected Fuller lines. #12 on Family Tree DNA's faq page: http://www.familytreedna.com/faq.html states that "The chance that a match does not exist due to infidelity or unreported adoptions occurs 2%-5% of the time per generation." While that's a very low percentage, it is out there, and I want to eliminate it's chances of affecting matches to benchmark testers. As of right now, I only have good news for you.... because of the 12/12 marker match to the Fuller in Oklahoma, what that says is that there was a common ancestor in the last 14.5 to 48 generations! (See #16 on the faq page) America wasn't even colonized by the Europeans in this time period. Now if the results come back a close match on the 13-25 markers, then we can surmise that there was a common FULLER ancestor in the last 7 to 19.8 generations. What our goal is for your line, is to discover what early Fuller branch you're connected to. If it's Nehemiah Fuller, then we need descendants of his son, James, to test. In reading "Early Southern Fullers", James seems to be the only one of the sons that has a "concrete" connection to Nehemiah. The words "appear to be" and "probable" are used in the book on all of Nehemiah's sons, except James, Jesse and Elijah, but with Jesse and Elijah, you've got references #144 and #151. I was told that there are Fuller males descended from James still living in Huntington, Carroll Co. TN and we need them to DNA test as Nehemiah benchmarks. (This might be a situation where donations to the General Fund would be used. People aren't too receptive to paying for DNA testing if they have no interest in their genealogy.) ~Katherine Colonial Fullers DNA Project Admin.

Dear Katherine, We were really short of male Fullers around these parts. In our Fuller family, (my mother) there was only one brother and in their father's family, he was the only child ... of course he is deceased now. After reading the article, I wonder how a decent DNA comparison can be done in situations like this? Just curious. Thanks, Mary Smith (My uncle, William H. Fuller, Jr., (born in Georgia,) took part in a Fuller DNA study last month and he had only one match in Oklahoma. Would that be a valid match if my uncle had no sibling with DNA to compare his match to?)

This message is being forwarded to the list by the listowner. You may reply to the list at Fuller-L@rootsweb.com or to the sender at "Betty-Jane Lee" <bjlee@gate.net> ------------------------------------------- > >Dear Carolyn, > Did anyone send you a message that they have a link from Thomas >Fuller to the Mayflower? >If you get such a connection I hope you might share that >information as I have a >connection to Thomas Fuller but as yet no Mayflower connection. >I have a Thomas Fuller that was a brother to Edward and Dr. Samuel >Fuller, who did come >on the Mayflower. I have that connection through Edward. >Decedents from Edward and Thomas married in 1768. >I would be willing to share information on Thomas if you are >interested. > >Betty-Jane >bjlee@gate.net >

We now have a total of ELEVEN Fuller males participating in the Colonial Fullers DNA Project! The majority of participants are from southern Fuller lines, but we do have one who is from a northern Fuller line and one who is probably descended from Capt. William Fuller, Colonial Governor of Maryland. I'd like to share the following recommendations from a NSG article and Family Tree DNA's promotions for this month. In the November-December 2003 issue of the National Genealogical Society's News Magazine, pgs 34-36, is an article on DNA testing written by Anita A. Lustenberter, as it relates to genealogy. It contains a very good explanation as to what/who the DNA tests should involve. Excerpts from the article: "The most common error in a study is to compare the Y-chromosome DNA of one descendant of John Smith with that of one descendant of James Smith. If the two do not match, the conclusion is (incorrectly) drawn that John and James could not have been close kin. Good study design requires that descendants of at least two different sons of ancestor John Smith and two different sons of ancestor James Smith be analyzed before any conclusion is drawn. It is essential to obtain the DNA samples from individuals who were as far separated from each other as possible, from different sons of the earliest known ancestor." The article goes on to state "if descendants of John have the same DNA signature then that is taken to be the signature of John Smith" and the same for the descendants of James Smith. "Only then, if the signatures of John and James do not match, is it valid to conclude that John and James were not related." If you're thinking of participating in the Colonial Fullers DNA project, NOW thru Dec 31st would be the IDEAL time to participate! Because... FamilyTreeDNA has just launched a new program called the "General Fund" where people can donate funds to be used for DNA testing. As part of the launch of this program, Family Tree DNA will MATCH funds (up to $200) donated to the General Fund now thru the end of the year, but the testing must be done before 12/31. For more info, http://www.familytreedna.com/contribution.html The Fullers General Fund link is on the Colonial Fullers DNA website: http://www.familytreedna.com/public/fuller/ Please e-mail me for more info on using this feature. Family Tree DNA is also offering a special on their mtDNA tests, which can also be combined for males with the Y-DNA test: http://www.ftdna.com/mtdna_promo.asp Lastly, I'd like say "THANK YOU! to those of you who are participating, and to the female relatives who are promoting participation. ~Katherine Borges Colonial Fullers DNA Project Admin.

Hi, I do not know if there is a connection but my gt gt gt grandfather was Samuel Riley Fuller, thought to have been born about 1760. Wife was Mary. Had 5 children but the only one positively identified ws my gt gt grandmother, Nancy Fuller Knight, born 1798. Samuel (often went by Riley) Fuller died in 1816, cause unknown. Left a widow and 5 children.

I'm not positive we have a match but find striking similarities between your Hiram and the family members of Farley Fuller and Minerva. Farley Fuller was one of the founders of the town of Russia in Herkimer County, NY in 1792. He later moved to Ripley, Chataugua County NY in 1804, where he was living when he died in 1844. The Fullers were founding members of the Methodist Church at Ripley. Census records for Ripley in 1850 show a Hiram Fuller, although that is the only time I found that name. (This tidbit may not help, but my Palmer relatives were also living in Ripley for a time, and also moved to Ohio and Wisconsin, seemingly with the Elisha Fuller.) Known (or strongly suspected) children of Farley Fuller: Elisha 1811-1870 Luther b about 1800 George (1806-) Amos (1799-) Truman (1804-) Mary? (1802-1884) Noah or Alvah? (1800-1855) What is most interesting is that my ancestor, Elisha, moved from Ripley to Conneaut, Ashtabula County, OH where he married. They later moved to Grant County WI. You didn't mention counties for all the moves of Hiram, but I thought it might be worth looking for a connection.

Who were parents, sibs, etc of Sylvester K. Fuller. He was born ca. 1795 in New York state; his father b. Mass; mother b. N.Y. He was in Wake Co., NC by 1812 and served as a junior officer in the Wake Co. mounted militia, later drawing War of 1812 pension for his service. He was in Rockingham C., VA by 1818 and married Elizabeth Carpenter. She died ca. 1819 and he married Elizabeth Clark, daughter of James Clark. By her, he fathered: John C; Calvin J; Michael C; Joseph; Emily, and probably Horace. He was an "ordinary keeper" there. Left his family and moved to Tennessee ca 1840. Appears in 1870 Tennessee census in Bellsburg, Dickson Co. in a rooming house. Census index shows his last name as Fowler but census document reads Fuller. Died at Bellsburg ca 1882, burial site unknown. Would appreciate any info concerning Sylvester K. Fuller and his sons Michael and Horace. Happy to exchange data on his other children and wife Elizabeth Clark Fuller. Larry Skelton, Wichita, KS

I am looking for information on Aileen/Eileen Fuller Born in Iowa about 1909 Lived in Wichita, KS 1910-1913 (according to 1910 census and city directory information) At time of 1920 census her parents were divorced and she lived with her grandparents Joseph and Mary Jennings in Bellville, ILL. Parents: Fred E Fuller, Sr. and Jesse Jennings Last available information: 1930 census when Aileen/Eileen lived with her divorced mother in Los Angeles, CA. She was still single at that time. I have some interesting information on the father and her half-brother, and would like information on Aileen/Eileen and/ or her descendents. Margie Fuller

JOHN FULLER was born in Canada about 1830. He married Lucinda CRAVEN in 1855. She was born about 1835 in Pennsylvania. They had eight children. 1. Ellen Fuller 2. James Fuller 3. Amanda Fuller 4. Ellie Fuller m. John BROWN 5. Jane Fuller 6. Fred Fuller m. Pearl _______? 7. Luvina Fuller b. 12 Dec 1873 m. Frank Hammond Sr. 8. Minnie Fuller (2) James Fuller lived the later part of his life Twining, Michigan as a minister of God's word. He was also a city official. Richard G. Boyd Boyd Family http://clanboyd.info Hammond Family http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hamm1.html

I'm searching for ancestors of Almon/Almond/Almad J. Fuller b. abt. 1850 in Jefferson County Wisconsin. The 1880 census lists his name as Amos J. Fuller. His tombstone shows his name to be Almond J. Fuller. He died 7 Mar 1887 at 37 yrs, 2 mos., and 1 day. He is the son of Seneca and Mary Fuller. Seneca was b. abt. 1798 in New York and Mary was b. abt. 1804 in Ohio. Mary's maiden name is unknown. In 1860, they resided in the Town of Aztalan, Jefferson County, Wisconsin. A tombstone in the Aztalan/Milford cemetery indicates that an I. Fuller d. 24 Aug 1865, d/o S. & M. Fuller at age 2 yrs., 14 days. I'm assuming this was Seneca and Mary Fuller's child. It is possible Edson Fuller was a brother of Seneca Fuller as he was b. 29 Jun 1808 and was from New York. He lived in the Town of Milford, Jefferson, Wisconsin. The 1880 census shows Almond/Amos to be living in the Town of Milford, Jefferson County, Wisconsin. His wife's name was Susan A., b. abt. 1856. They had two daughters: Ethel/Ethie May b. Mar 1873, d. 18 May 1881; and Marybellel b. 10 Nov 1878, d. 5 Apr 1961. Marybelle married Chauncey Hathaway 6 Oct 1896 in Aztalan, Jefferson County, Wisconsin. Does anyone have more info on this family? Thanks. Lori Zastrow Watertown, Wisconsin

I would like to know if a link has been estabished between Thomas Fuller and the Mayflower Fullers. Thanks Carolyn M. Woody-Fuller

Looking for the parents and siblings of Hiram Fuller born about 1803 , possibly in NY. He married Angeline Stocum, born about 1809 possibly in NY. Her parents were Isaac Stocum and Annie Ourie . They had child Arthur Ward Fuller,(later called Artemus) born Jun 1830 in Bloomfield, Ontario, NY. The family moved to Nelson, Portage, OH where 8 more children were born: John, Herkimer, Susan, Bradley, Lydia, Jane, Arthur Clayton, and Anna. The family then moved to Walworth, Walworth, WI where 2 more children were born: Frank James and Daniel. We have pretty much documented the children, but the parentage of Hiram has remained a mystery. He must be a sibling in someone's family. Please check to see if you have any Hiram Fullers in your databases that might fit our ancestor. We need date and place of birth; date and place of marriage, etc. Thanks for your consideration, Doug Miller in Santa Clarita, CA, djmill@earthlink.net

Cousin David wants YOU... ___________ ____ ______/ \__// \__/____\ _/ \_/ : //____\\ /| : : .. / \ | | :: :: \ / | | :| || \ \______/ | | || || |\ / | \| || || | / | \ | || || | / /_\ \ | ___ || ___ || | / / \ \_-_/ \_-_/ | ____ |/__/ \ _\_--_/ \ / /____ / / \ / \______\_________/ ...to post your Genealogy query or lineage today! ===== If the ascii graphic looks jumbled you might have your email set to view a variable width font. To see the hand with the pointing finger more clearly you should use fixed width. Okay, that was just for fun. The real point is that the list has been quiet lately. So here is my call for queries to "jump start" the list. If it's been a while since you posted yours, and I know it has, send it in. If you haven't yet sent your query to the list now is a good time to start. If you have some data to share send it in. If you have a web page about your Fuller ancestors share it with us. If you saw a post at a message board that you think would interest the members tell us where it is. I'm sure you get the idea. :_) Before we get started, don't reply to this email and then add your query -- in fact I don't wish you to reply to this at all. If you have comments or questions about this email send them to me personally. You know the address. Here are some tips to help you get started writing a good query. First decide whom you're going to write about and put that name in the subject area. If you're looking for the ancestry of say, your great-great-grandfather Ansel Fuller then type that name in. Or maybe prefix it with something like "Looking for... ". If you know where Ansel was from include that place also. So your subject title might look like... Seeking ancestry of Ansel Fuller of Anytown. (And include the state, county, province, country, colony or territory) Don't put simply "Fuller" as the subject. We all know that we're looking for Fullers. The object is to catch the attention of the reader who might have some information on the individual ancestor you're looking for, who might otherwise delete your email. Some list members are on multiple lists and they may be inundated with dozens or hundreds of list messages each day. You want them to open your email if they have the information you need. Use an eye catcher. The only time you might include only the surname would be if you were looking for all Fullers of a particular place (town, county, etc.). In that case, using my town as an example, your subject might indicate that you're... Looking for all Fullers of Searsport, Maine. Don't type "roll call" in the subject area. That's not who you're looking for. Don't type "Thank you David..." Most serious researchers will delete that unopened message in a heartbeat. Now, let's talk about the body of your post. Try to give as much information as you know, dates and places of all vital events if known, along with enough info on other family members so that the reader can positively identify if they are researching the same family. "Anyone out there researching Fullers?" is going to find its way into members' trash bins. You don't have to use all capital letters for surnames. Many tutorials will advise you to use that style (i.e. FULLER) but it is no longer necessary. Now that we have mailing lists that zero in on individual surnames and local places the sheer volume and variety of messages is greatly reduced in any single list. In the Fuller list everybody already knows we're looking for Fullers, and it is much more readable in lowercase. Break your query into paragraphs and leave blank lines between them for easy reading. If you wish to list a family's children and their spouses leave blank lines between each of them. Don't cram everything together. Don't worry about message length or file size. There is a maximum that the list server allows but rarely will you reach that point. But do post only one query at a time. If you have two Fuller lines that you'd like information on send your queries in two separate emails. When you're done sign your name. It can be simply your first name or your nickname but let people know what to call you when they reply. Sometimes people like to add as a tagline or afterthought some additional surnames that they're "also looking for". If you wish to add some names try to use a small list, perhaps 3 to 6 surnames of ancestors *closely* related to the person you're looking for. Only include surnames that might be helpful in finding the ancestral line in question. For example if I'm looking for information on the wife of Joseph Silvester who was born in 1674 I might state that I'm also looking for Hall, White, and Rogers -- names contemporaneous with the subject of my query. I'm not going to include surname Washburn because my Sylvesters didn't connect with that family until more than two centuries later. I've made a web page with links to several query tutorial sites. For more tips and ideas check out http://mdwsweb.com/genealogylists/query.html . Here are some tips on replying to a query: Okay, somebody posted a query and you have the information they need, or you have some leads or some speculative information for them. You may have a question to ask them so as to clarify a point or you might see a name that you recognize about whom you have a further question. So you hit the reply key and start typing at the top of your editor, leaving the entire query along with taglines, the sender's signature lines, administrative messages, advertisements from the server host and the email client, and a virus scan report trailing behind. Please don't do that. It's ridiculous. It's called top posting and it requires the reader to constantly scroll down to see what the current writer is referring to. As one listowner in another list recently pointed out, "PS - It is a lot easier to have a sensible discussion that other people can follow if you don't top post." Do you remember back in the old days when we wrote to friends, family, pen pals, and research correspondents with pen and paper or typewriter? We didn't send their letter back to them did we? Of course we didn't. We reminded them about a discussion in a previous letter and then we expanded on that theme. And we can do that here too. In this day and age of computers it's called "quoting" and it's done by leaving portions of the previous message and removing (deleting, trimming, snipping) the rest. Then we type our reply *below* the quoted material. It's so easy to do with the mail editors (like mini word processors) that come with our email programs and it's much, much easier to follow. For those of you who were initiated into the world of email since the beginning of the "dot-com" era when businesses entered the Internet and required their correspondents to top post, here's how quoting is done. This will all become easy and will become second nature after you have tried it one or two times... After you hit the reply key, before you begin typing, first look at the entire email in your editor and identify what portion of it is genealogical, that is, what part of it did the sender type in an attempt to find ancestors or share data. Next, remove everything else. That's it for starters -- you've got it down to just genealogy. If you remove nothing else from that message you've got it down to being on topic because if you include any of that extraneous stuff your message is off topic. The next step is judgmental on your part and what you do next depends on what the query includes and how your new information relates to that data. If the poster sent in what I call a "standard query" with heads of family (husband and wife) with their data coming first and their offspring with their data coming below (like a family group chart) you then decide which persons your reply pertains to. Keep those pertinent lines of text and remove the rest. Try to keep enough of the previous message so that the reader is reminded of what the thread is about. If you can't figure out what else to remove, again if you remove the "administrivia" and keep just the genealogical data you'll be doing just fine. If the poster sent in a list of first settlers of Boomtown, USA and you would like to reply concerning one name of interest then please remove everything except for the line or paragraph containing that name. After you have finished trimming the original message move your cursor down to the end of the very last line, hit the [Enter] key two or three times then begin to type your response. Go ahead and try it -- it's easy! Other members *and especially this listowner* will be much happier! :-) There's a variation of the quoting method and I'll demonstrate it by example. Let's say the poster sent in a basic query, family group sheet style. The parental data comprise two paragraphs and there are six offspring given making a total of eight paragraphs. You wish to reply with comments on the parents plus you descend from one of the children, let's say the fifth one, for whom you have some information to share. You would keep the first two paragraphs then type your comments below. You would then remove the paragraphs containing children 1 through 4, keep the paragraph that contains child 5 and remove the 6th. Hit the [Enter] key once or twice then type your further comments -- always leaving one or two blank lines between each section. Here's what a finished reply might look like. The quoted lines from the original query are preceded by greater than signs and the rest is our new material. ===== At 4:00 p.m. Percy D. Ancestorhunter wrote... > I'm looking for the ancestry of blah-blah > who were born [date] [place] blah blah. They > were married blah blah blah > They settled and raised their children in blah blah > but I'm told they were buried in blah blah Dear Percy, I descend from that same line and I still can't find their ancestors. I do have some leads, which I shall share with you. Go to http://www.Blah-blah-blah, also there is a book which blah-blah, etc. [children 1 through 4 snipped] > 5. Mehitabel born blah-blah married blah blah > more about Mehitabel blah blah This is the branch that I descend from. I have all her children's names and I have a large database of Mehitabel's descendants that I will send you in private email if you wish. [child 6 snipped] I hope this is helpful. Best regards and have a great day. Your cousin, Annabel T. Rootsdigger ===== I hope you have taken the time to read this message and I hope you apply some of the methods given. Most importantly do post your query and help your cousins find their roots. We now have new members and hopefully we have new information on your missing ancestors. Again please don't reply to this message in the list or any such messages by this listowner. Any comments or questions are to be sent to me at my administrative address that is given in the welcome letter that was updated and sent to the list earlier this year. Best wishes and good luck with your search. David http://mdwsweb.com/genealogylists/fuller.html

FRANK HAMMOND SR., son of Oliver HAMMOND and Rhoda (THOMPSON) HAMMOND was born 8 May 1846 in German Flats, Herkimer County, New York. He later moved to Bradford, Pennsylvania when he was three years old. He married Luvina FULLER 1 March 1890. She was born 12 Dec 1873 near Saginaw, Michigan. Frank, with his parents joined the wagon train that gathered at Olean, New York to move West. In 1854 the train of thirty covered wagons started west. Part of the train stopped in Michigan and the others went on to Wisconsin and Minnesota. Franks parents settled in Laingsburg, Michigan but later moved to a farm three miles south of Elsie, Michigan. Frank went to a school three miles south of Elsie. His oldest sister was his teacher for a time. At the age of fourteen he moved into the woods eight miles north of Elsie to hunt and trap. That was the spring of 1860. He made a good income selling Partridges and other game birds to hotels, besides his income from the skins of animals he caught in the woods. He lived in this neighborhood during the great Chicago fire of 1860, which run from Chicago all the way across the State of Michigan. He had quite a fight to save his cabin from burning, as the fire was all around it. In 1864 he took up 160 acres of land under the Homestead Act. He being only eighteen years of age, his father had to sign the papers with him. This 160 acres of land was the southwest quarter of section 36, Hamilton Township, Gratiot County, Michigan. He later bought 80 acres of the west half of the southeast quarter of the same section from Hayes SINCLAIR for one dollar per acre. He would walk to Ovid and carry what groceries he needed fourteen miles home. The roads at that time were mere trails which followed the ridges, as the swamps were full of water most of the year. Some of the trails were made by the Indians. He farmed the land with a team of oxen. All the grain had to be cut by hand with a cradle and threshed with a flail. At that time, before the year 1900, eggs were 8 cents per dozen and butter was 10 cents per pound. 18 inch cordwood, split and delivered ten miles and piled in neatly was $1.25 per cord. Beef, Mutton, and Pork cost three to five cents per pound. Sugar was five cents per pound. White beans sold at sixty cents per bushel. The only tax we had was real estate tax and personal property tax to be paid once each year. No dog tax, no income tax, no sales tax, no inheritance tax, no union dues, no deer license, no hunting or trapping license, no fishing license, no automobile license (no automobile)! What little money we made was all our own. In 1896 the people of the neighborhood got together and had a logging bee and built the old log school house and founded district number six. It was built on the north half of section 36, Hamilton township, Gratiot County, Michigan. Those who helped to build the school were as follows; Frank Hammond, William Mitchell, William Fisher, Mr. Hood and Mr. Chamberlain. Mr. Hood furnished the land and most of the lumber. William Fisher was elected director and Mr. Chamberlain was elected treasurer. When school started there were thirty pupils. Frank Hammond Jr. was four years old and went to the new school the first year it was in operation. At that time the teacher got #25.00 per month and had to pay $2.50 per week board and room. The school was first called the Fisher school, but was later called the Hammond school district, in honor of Frank Hammond, he being the oldest pioneer in the district. After the pine timber was all cut off and the saw mills and shingle mills moved away, the school got down to six pupils; Frank, Oliver, Lester, Chester, Minerva Hammond, and Frank Albert Fisher. Frank served on the school board for many years. Luvina died 13 Dec 1921 and Frank died 30 June 1930, both at the old homestead. They had fourteen children. 1. Amelia Hammond b. 4 May 1891 d. 15 May 1891 2. Frank Hammond Jr. b 21 Apr 1892 3. Elizabeth Hammond b. 1893 or 94 (twins) 4. Margaret Hammond b. 1893 or 94 both died in infancy 5. Oliver A. Hammond b. 12 Mar 1895 6. Hector Hammond b. 1896 d. in infancy 7. Lester Hammond b. 21 Jly 1897 d. 1974 8. Chester Hammond b. 15 Mar 1899 d. 26 May 1979 9. Minerva Hammond b. 2 Nov 1900 d. 21 Sep 1962 10. Cecil Hammond b. 5 Feb 1903 11. Emerson Hammond b. 25 Mar 1905 12. Vadnew Hammond b. 4 Aug 1907 13. Charles Hammond b. 29 Mar 1910 14. Christy Hammond b. 9 Mar 1913 Written by Oliver A. Hammond, 1964. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~confido/hamm1.html

Regarding this letter, Beaver Dam, Wisconsin is about 30 miles north of Madison, WI. It is on the border of Columbia and Dodge Counties, assigned to Dodge county. The weather definately fits for winters in Wisconsin. I live about 25 miles from Beaver Dam. I thought about checking the "census" for this time period, but have been too busy today. Will check into this possiblity later in the week. Edna (Fuller) Darling

In a message dated 9/16/2004 4:54:09 AM Central Daylight Time, familia@sprintmail.com writes: I've "rescued" an old letter written by R. FULLER of Beaver Dam on February 10th 1864 to his Sister Lucretia SAVAGE. There is no state referenced so I'm not sure which Beaver Dam is being referenced. The letter is addressed to brother and sister, however, he refers to "Lucretia" specifically in the letter and then at the end notes that the letter is to "L. SAVAGE". There is or was a Beaver Dam in (I think, Rusk County) Wisconsin. The weather would fit, but I am not sure if it was a town or just a dam. Good luck. Curt

I've "rescued" an old letter written by R. FULLER of Beaver Dam on February 10th 1864 to his Sister Lucretia SAVAGE. There is no state referenced so I'm not sure which Beaver Dam is being referenced. The letter is addressed to brother and sister, however, he refers to "Lucretia" specifically in the letter and then at the end notes that the letter is to "L. SAVAGE". Other clues in the letter are that they've had snow so it would be a cold climate. He refers to "little" Georgi as if that is his son. He asks for his Mother and for Caroline in the letter, so Caroline may be another sister. Also refers to "Alfe" concerned about who is doing Alfe's work, maybe Alfe is an old man at the time. The transcribed letter is as follows: Beaver Dam, February 10th 1864 Dear Brother & Sister I supose you have got out of patience awaiting for me to write but I think I am very excuseable for I have every thing to see to in doors & out & three men besides you will say set them to work but they must have some one to go ahead. I would willingly sell every thing we have & live a different life but no I can't so I must put up with it. We have built a new dam & got the mill repaired up so it is new again, we have not had only about one month of sleighing perhaps 8 or 10 in of snow so you see we have some cold weather. Well I hope you will excuse me for not writing before for I have my hands full you don't know how many time I have had to stop since I commencd this Mr. Edwin family are all well he is teaching this winter and Charley is going to the colege this winter we have a family living in with us so you see I am not alone and it is better all the time. I would like to hear from Mother for I don't know as I ever see her again sometimes I think I will go East & then something will happen & so I stay at home but now Lucretia I want you should write me all the news & tell me where Caroline is & how she gets along & who Alfe has to do his work and all the rest for I like to hear from there often altho I don't write it is & getting night and nobody to do the chores but little Georgis & I so I must leave. Good morning it is a week since I comenced this and I will try to finish by telling you we are all well. It is very pleasant this morning but we have lost all our snow and it is so slippery we have to stay at home. Give my love to all enquiring friends Write Soon Yours truly, R. FULLER to L. SAVAGE I'm hoping to determine who this family is so that the letter can be returned to the family. If you are a member of this family or know someone who might be, please contact me. Thanks, Shelley

In a message dated 9/6/2004 6:53:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, csf@lm.com writes: ... and I have info that suggests that my Fuller line may have passed through Frederick County around the beginning of the 19th century. Caleb Fuller was b. ca 1799/1800, was in Somerset Co, PA, in 1820, and by 1830 was in Preston Co, VA. Chuck, would this be the Caleb Fuller who married Margaret Gunn? Edie

Hawbottom1@aol.com wrote: > What Fuller's are you looking for in MD? I have Robert Fuller > (?-1800) and > his wife Mary Johnson (1744-1817) here in Frederick County, MD. > Edie > ... and I have info that suggests that my Fuller line may have passed through Frederick County around the beginning of the 19th century. Caleb Fuller was b. ca 1799/1800, was in Somerset Co, PA, in 1820, and by 1830 was in Preston Co, VA. - Chuck