-----Original Message----- From: John Okerson [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, 6 January 2014 11:18 AM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: FTMM 3 questions please Does FTMM 3 make good on the promised fully integrated commonality of dataset between Mac and Windows versions? In other words, can one open a Mac product without conversion in a PC and vice versa? Sure does Bye, bye the arcane file migration utility I have been led to believe that FTMM 3 installs a 64-bit version of itself on a Mac, as FTM 2014 does on a Windows PC IF the hardware meets specific minimum requirements. Would SKS list those requirements for me please. I have an associate who is running a Mac Book Pro with only 2 GB of RAM - does she need to upgrade to 4 GB??? FTMM3 is still only 32-bit On my iMac I have Mac OS-10.8.5 running as 64-bit and FTMM3 (which is 32-bit) installed I also have on the same computer Parallels 7 and Win 7 Pro installed 64-bit I have FTM 2014 installed as 64 bit This set up lets me readily compare the same file in both environments, by clicking between tham and yes I accept that Parallels has some overhead that will slow Windows side down a tad. I have 8 GB of RAM on the Mac and 8 GB of RAM on the Windows side With a 7,500 person file and about 200 media items On most reports an charts Win 2014 (64-bit) is about 30~50% faster than FTM 2012 (32-bit) same file on the same computer FTMM3 (32-bit) is about 30~50% faster than FTM 2014 (64-bit) I also like the fact that FTMM3 loads in 2 seconds (program only) I think the main issue with the Windows version over the Mac version is that the Win version has the overhead of MS .NET and also a number of cab files The Mac OS/FTMM3 does not have this baggage and runs better. Mac users would say "of course!!" On that basis if Ancestry.com releases a 64-bit version of FTMM3 it should run even better The other improvement with FTMM3 is that it is almost parity in features with FTM 2014 Missing are historical events, Smart stories, plug in capability and a few other minor omissions, but all of the critical features are all there and mostly run better than in 2014 In terms of RAM IMO 2 GB is too low for any decent sized file in FTM. (I think it is too low for just about anything else as well) I also think the recommendations from Ancestry re FTM are also too low unless your file is only about 100 names These are the Ancestry.com recommendations Family Tree Maker for Windows Minimum Requirements Operating System Microsoft WindowsR XP SP2 / VistaT / 7/ 8 Processor 500 MHz Intel PentiumR II (or equivalent) Hard Disk 639 MB for installation Memory 512 MB of RAM CD-ROM Drive 2 x CD/CD-R. (Some supplemental products require a DVD-ROM drive) Monitor 800 x 600 resolution monitor Recommended Requirements Operating System Microsoft WindowsR XP SP2 / VistaT / 7/ 8 Processor 1 GHz Intel PentiumR III (or equivalent) Hard Disk 700 MB for installation Memory 1 GB of RAM CD-ROM Drive 32 x CD/CD-R (Some supplemental products require a DVD-ROM drive) Monitor 1024 x 768 resolution monitor Family Tree Maker for Mac Minimum Requirements Operating System Mac OS-X 10.5 or later Processor Intel-based Mac Hard Disk Space 500 MB for installation Memory 512MB of RAM CD-ROM Drive 2 x CD-ROM (required for installation) Display 800 x 600 resolution monitor Recommended System Requirements Operating System Mac OS-X 10.5 or later Processor Intel-based Mac Hard Disk Space 500MB for installation Memory 1GB RAM CD-ROM Drive 32 x CD/CD-R (Some supplemental products require a DVD-ROM drive) Monitor 1024 x 768 resolution monitor My Comments My experience with both Family Tree Maker for Windows and Family Tree Maker for Mac is that even the recommended RAM of 1GB is really too low if you want to run a file over 1,000 people. I would suggest that you have at least 4GB of RAM for 32-bit operation (that is the most that 32-bit Windows can use) and 8 GB of RAM for 64-bit operation. Other programs will run a lot better as well with more RAM. Also, Intel Processors i3 or above, e.g. i5, or better still i7 (or equivalent), will also perform much better than the older Pentiums etc. John D Thanks in advance. John Okerson Lakeland, TN

I'll let stand what John Donaldson says about all this. I don't have any recent FTM running on Windows, but I did note that the .ftmm files are all converted to .ftm files upon first opening. I had to do that for several hundred files. It would have been nice if they provided a tool or option to convert all .ftmm files in one go. I haven't stress tested FTM Mac 3 much yet, but overall I am pleased with this third generation native Mac product. (a couple requests may come in some subsequent messages here, which I will file with Ancestry as one posted suggested in one of the replies today). John On 1/5/2014, 7:56 PM, John Donaldson wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Okerson [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, 6 January 2014 11:18 AM > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: FTMM 3 questions please > > Does FTMM 3 make good on the promised fully integrated commonality of > dataset between Mac and Windows versions? In other words, can one open a > Mac product without conversion in a PC and vice versa? > > Sure does > > Bye, bye the arcane file migration utility > > > > I have been led to believe that FTMM 3 installs a 64-bit version of itself > on a Mac, as FTM 2014 does on a Windows PC IF the hardware meets specific > minimum requirements. Would SKS list those requirements for me please. I > have an associate who is running a Mac Book Pro with only 2 GB of RAM - does > she need to upgrade to 4 GB??? > > FTMM3 is still only 32-bit > > On my iMac I have Mac OS-10.8.5 running as 64-bit and FTMM3 (which is > 32-bit) installed > > I also have on the same computer Parallels 7 and Win 7 Pro installed 64-bit > > I have FTM 2014 installed as 64 bit > > This set up lets me readily compare the same file in both environments, by > clicking between tham and yes I accept that Parallels has some overhead > that will slow Windows side down a tad. > > > I have 8 GB of RAM on the Mac and 8 GB of RAM on the Windows side > > With a 7,500 person file and about 200 media items > > On most reports an charts > > Win 2014 (64-bit) is about 30~50% faster than FTM 2012 (32-bit) same file on > the same computer > > FTMM3 (32-bit) is about 30~50% faster than FTM 2014 (64-bit) > > I also like the fact that FTMM3 loads in 2 seconds (program only) > > I think the main issue with the Windows version over the Mac version is that > the Win version has the overhead of MS .NET and also a number of cab files > > The Mac OS/FTMM3 does not have this baggage and runs better. Mac users would > say "of course!!" > > On that basis if Ancestry.com releases a 64-bit version of FTMM3 it should > run even better > > The other improvement with FTMM3 is that it is almost parity in features > with FTM 2014 > > Missing are historical events, Smart stories, plug in capability and a few > other minor omissions, but all of the critical features are all there and > mostly run better than in 2014 > > > In terms of RAM > > IMO 2 GB is too low for any decent sized file in FTM. (I think it is too low > for just about anything else as well) > > I also think the recommendations from Ancestry re FTM are also too low > unless your file is only about 100 names > > > These are the Ancestry.com recommendations > > Family Tree Maker for Windows > Minimum Requirements > Operating System Microsoft WindowsR XP SP2 / VistaT / 7/ 8 > Processor 500 MHz Intel PentiumR II (or equivalent) > Hard Disk 639 MB for installation > Memory 512 MB of RAM > CD-ROM Drive 2 x CD/CD-R. (Some supplemental products require a DVD-ROM > drive) > Monitor 800 x 600 resolution monitor > > Recommended Requirements > Operating System Microsoft WindowsR XP SP2 / VistaT / 7/ 8 > Processor 1 GHz Intel PentiumR III (or equivalent) > Hard Disk 700 MB for installation > Memory 1 GB of RAM > CD-ROM Drive 32 x CD/CD-R (Some supplemental products require a DVD-ROM > drive) > Monitor 1024 x 768 resolution monitor > > Family Tree Maker for Mac > Minimum Requirements > Operating System Mac OS-X 10.5 or later > Processor Intel-based Mac > Hard Disk Space 500 MB for installation > Memory 512MB of RAM > CD-ROM Drive 2 x CD-ROM (required for installation) > Display 800 x 600 resolution monitor > > Recommended System Requirements > Operating System Mac OS-X 10.5 or later > Processor Intel-based Mac > Hard Disk Space 500MB for installation > Memory 1GB RAM > CD-ROM Drive 32 x CD/CD-R (Some supplemental products require a DVD-ROM > drive) > Monitor 1024 x 768 resolution monitor > > My Comments > My experience with both Family Tree Maker for Windows and Family Tree Maker > for Mac is that even the recommended RAM of 1GB is really too low if you > want to run a file over 1,000 people. I would suggest that you have at least > 4GB of RAM for 32-bit operation (that is the most that 32-bit Windows can > use) and 8 GB of RAM for 64-bit operation. Other programs will run a lot > better as well with more RAM. Also, Intel Processors i3 or above, e.g. i5, > or better still i7 (or equivalent), will also perform much better than the > older Pentiums etc. > > > John D > > > > Thanks in advance. > > John Okerson > Lakeland, TN > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Version 2008 - 2012 > http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >