Since I have a couple of thousand memorials for my family up on Find Grave and do use photos from it in my tree I use the description box to state that the "pic is courtesy of" and either use the name of the FAG volunteer or the name of the cousin who uploaded it for me. That way the owner of the original photo is established. I also ask the owners of photos to upload them to FAG even if they send me copies so the ownership is established publically. Sometimes some cousins who have difficulty using computers will not be able to figure out how to upload a pic, then I will do it for them and stating on FAG that "the photo is courtesy of" and list their name; so again ownership of the original is established publically. And again, I do the same in my tree for the same pic. The object is to not loose the images for the extended family in spite of the fact that the owners of the originals are dying off and not all the relatives are saving them. Plus I have hundred's of photos that were sent to me by relatives of collateral families who don't want them because they are photos of in-laws of their ancestors, not of their ancestors. I still id them as courtesy of whomever sent them to me, since no one in my family took them even though I now own the originals. Doing so has actually garnered me more contacts of living descendants of both families, which as international data coordinator of our family history research group has enabled me to further extend our tree and to put them in contact with others researching their part of the family tree. Annie in Minnesota -----Original Message----- From: H R Worthington <[email protected]> To: ftm-tech <[email protected]> Sent: Sun, Jan 26, 2014 2:30 pm Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Find A Grave BJ, I did a blog post on how I use Find-A-Grave. http://ftmuser.blogspot.com/2013/12/ftm2014-web-clipping-from-find-grave.html In fact, I have posted 22 articles on Find-A-Grave. http://ftmuser.blogspot.com/search/label/Find-A-Grave Don't forget that IF you download an image from the Find-A-Grave Website, that you should Mark that Media File PRIVATE, unless YOU took the photo, if you use an Ancestry Member Tree. Russ ___________________________ Mailto:[email protected] ________________________________ From: BJ <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 11:59 AM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Find A Grave The inclusion of Find A Grave matches is a welcome enhancement to the web search. Like Annie, I had quite a number of them in my data base before but have also found some new ones. When I find these matches, I use Web Merge to merge the information into my data base. Unfortunately the View Online link goes to the Ancestry.com match record which is in turn a link to the Find A Grave data base. Consequently, to view the actual memorial record, the user must click on View Online and then Click on the Ancestry.com's link. About two clicks later, the user is actually taken to the record. Here are the steps I use to make this process more efficient. I put them here to provide some fodder for discussion to see if there are better techniques or a better methodology. Documenting a Burial Fact. 1. Click on the Ancestry.com's Find A Grave match. This opens the match record. 2. Click Merge - Accept/modify the information to be merged. The reason I want this information merged is to save the link to the Ancestry.com record. That way I never have to search for it again. 3. After the merge, I go to the Source record and make any changes to the source-citation. 4. I use the View Online link to open the Ancestry.com record and I use its link to go to the Find A Grave memorial record because I want to capture and store the actual URL address in the new Web URL field. 5. The problem is this address is very long and complicated. So I wanted some way to shorten the URL. 6. I could use TinyURL but decided on another approach. I copy the memorial number to the clipboard. I then use the Find A Grave search window to perform a new search using the memorial ID. This provides the shortest and most efficient address possible. So I copy the new address and paste it into the Source-citation Web URL field. This provides me with two ways to get to the burial record in the future. I would appreciate any additional ideas or techniques anyone are using. BJ On 1/26/2014 5:47 AM, [email protected] wrote: > Been able to do that for a while now. Unfortunately most of them were ones I made, but have found a few new ones so I now know where they are buried when I didn't before. > > Annie in Minnesota > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeanne Stanis <[email protected]> > To: FTM-tech List <[email protected]> > Sent: Sat, Jan 25, 2014 3:36 pm > Subject: [FTM-TECH] Find A Grave > > > Whoa! I just was able to merge a "find a grave" with a person in my file!!! > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Version 2008 - 2012 > http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Version 2008 - 2012 > http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Version 2008 - 2012 http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Version 2008 - 2012 http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Annie, Do YOU have specific permission to Post that image in your AMT? If the file is not online in your Ancestry Member Tree, you are OK, BUT to use the image in your AMT without Permission is not right. That is one of the reasons why we have the ability to make them private. Permission is required, as I understand it Russ ___________________________ Mailto:[email protected] ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected]; [email protected] Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Find A Grave Since I have a couple of thousand memorials for my family up on Find  Grave and do use photos from it in my tree I use the description box to state that the "pic is courtesy of" and either use the name of the FAG volunteer or the name of the cousin who uploaded it for me.  That way the owner of the original photo is established.  I also ask the owners of photos to upload them to FAG even if they send me copies so the ownership is established publically.  Sometimes some cousins who have difficulty using computers will not be able to figure out how to upload a pic, then I will do it for them and stating on FAG that "the photo is courtesy of" and list their name; so again ownership of the original is established publically.  And again, I do the same in my tree for the same pic.  The object is to not loose the images for the extended family in spite of the fact that the owners of the originals are dying off and not all the relatives are saving them.  Plus I have hundred's of photos that were sent to me by relatives of collateral families who don't want them because they are photos of in-laws of their ancestors, not of their ancestors.  I still id them as courtesy of whomever sent them to me, since no one in my family took them even though I now own the originals.  Doing so has actually garnered me more contacts of living descendants of both families, which as international data coordinator of our family history research group has enabled me to further extend our tree and to put them in contact with others researching their part of the family tree.   Annie in Minnesota -----Original Message----- From: H R Worthington <[email protected]> To: ftm-tech <[email protected]> Sent: Sun, Jan 26, 2014 2:30 pm Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Find A Grave BJ, I did a blog post on how I use Find-A-Grave. http://ftmuser.blogspot.com/2013/12/ftm2014-web-clipping-from-find-grave.html In fact, I have posted 22 articles on Find-A-Grave. http://ftmuser.blogspot.com/search/label/Find-A-Grave Don't forget that IF you download an image from the Find-A-Grave Website, that you should Mark that Media File PRIVATE, unless YOU took the photo, if you use an Ancestry Member Tree. Russ   ___________________________ Mailto:[email protected] ________________________________ From: BJ <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 11:59 AM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Find A Grave The inclusion of Find A Grave matches is a welcome enhancement to the web search.  Like Annie, I had quite a number of them in my data base before but have also found some new ones.  When I find these matches, I use Web Merge to merge the information into my data base.  Unfortunately the View Online link goes to the Ancestry.com match record which is in turn a link to the Find A Grave data base. Consequently, to view the actual memorial record, the  user must click on View Online and then Click on the Ancestry.com's link. About two clicks later, the user is actually taken to the record. Here are the steps I use to make this process more efficient.  I put them here to provide some fodder for discussion to see if there are better techniques or a better methodology. Documenting a Burial Fact. 1. Click on the Ancestry.com's Find A Grave match. This opens the match     record. 2. Click Merge - Accept/modify the information to be merged.  The     reason I want this information merged is to save the link to the     Ancestry.com record.  That way I never have to search for it again. 3. After the merge, I go to the Source record and make any changes to     the source-citation. 4. I use the View Online link to open the Ancestry.com record and I use     its link to go to the Find A Grave memorial record because I want to     capture and store the actual URL address in the new Web URL field. 5. The problem is this address is  very long and complicated.  So I     wanted some way to shorten the URL. 6. I could use TinyURL but decided on another approach. I copy the     memorial number to the clipboard.  I then use the Find A Grave     search window to perform a new search using the memorial ID.  This     provides the shortest and most efficient address possible.  So I     copy the new address and paste it into the Source-citation Web URL     field.  This provides me with two ways to get to the burial record     in the future. I would appreciate any additional ideas or techniques anyone are using. BJ On 1/26/2014 5:47 AM, [email protected] wrote: > Been able to do that for a while now.  Unfortunately most of them were ones I made, but have found a few new ones so I now know where they are buried when I didn't before. > > Annie in Minnesota > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeanne Stanis <[email protected]> > To: FTM-tech List <[email protected]> > Sent: Sat, Jan 25, 2014 3:36 pm > Subject: [FTM-TECH] Find A Grave > > > Whoa!  I just was able to merge a "find a grave" with a person in my file!!! > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Version 2008 - 2012 > http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > >  > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Version 2008 - 2012 > http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Version 2008 - 2012 http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Version 2008 - 2012 http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message