Thanks for your comments Ken. I too was a teacher and researcher from 1961 to 1999. Got into genealogy in 1996 and after my retirement in 1999 do genealogy just about 24/7. Keeps me busy and also keeps my research skills sharp. I still use FTM-2006/16 but also have FTM-20XX, FTM-2014 being the latest one. It still cannot compete with FTM-16 for speed and capability. I cannot use any links on this list so if you want to see how and why FTM-20XX cannot compete then just go to my homepage as shown below and in the topics section select item#7 then item #4 then #13. I only use FTM-2014 to see what others have on those in my database which is now in excess of 213,000 individuals. Some of the garbage out there is astounding but some give me a hint as to where to look for some sources or other information. Cheers, Arnie ------------------------------------------------------------------- Arnold E. Krause 1611 Arlington Ave., Saskatoon, Sask., CANADA, S7H 2Y6 Tel: (306) 374-3348 email address: [email protected] Homepage: http://members.shaw.ca/arnie-krause/index.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ken Schroeder Sent: 05 February, 2014 5:58 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Use of FTM 2014 on Two Computers Very clever scheme, Arnie. That's what makes this List so important to me ... hearing about the ingenuity that exists across the spectrum. At the age of 78, I'm still learning something new everyday. I started a genealogy club at our Del Webb 55+ community and it turns out with my 40 years of genealogy and 45 years of computer experience became the teacher and consultant to my fellow club members. So Lists like this provide good input for me to take back to our club members and help solve all of our issues. After teaching the members what genealogy was all about and how to research, I really pushed everyone to get FTM and to subscribe to Ancestry.com. It took awhile to make everyone believers but finally got there. Based on what I was seeing on this List I convinced everyone to hold off updating from FTM 2011 until the Sync process was stable. When I first saw 2014 stumble I was really disappointed but updated a month or so ago and created some test files so I could test things to the point of recommending the club members to upgrade. We are in that process now. Bottom line keep the good work up in feeding your experiences to this List. I can assure you that you are helping a bunch of old but never give up genealogists. And you can bet your boots that we are at the point in life where we are not bashful about asking for help, critiquing poor product performances and thanking anyone for your generous help. Ken Schroeder > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 13:07:11 -0600 > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Use of FTM 2014 on Two Computers > > I'm going to jump in here and explain how I use two or more computers > with FTM-XX on each one. Since I want the internet on all my computers > then I have a wired/wireless modem/router and each computer can be > connected via hardwire or wireless to the router. Then by using a > local LAN each computer can communicate with the others on my > home-network. I have a shared folder on one of the computers that > holds backup files. I will give each computer a name for this example as A, B, and C. Computer A has the shared folder. > However, Computer B is the one that I do all of my data entry on but > backup my FTM file to the shared folder on A. To synchronize the two > then I just do a restore from the shared folder on A to FTM-xx on that > computer. If I am going away and taking my laptop with me then I do a > restore of the backup file on system A and now computer C database is > synchronized with my main file that is on computer B. If I make any > changes to the database on the notebook then when I return I just do a > backup to the shared folder on computer A then do a restore on > Computer B so that my master database is synchronized with any changes that are on the notebook. > I will do backups several times a day from the computer that I do all > my data entry on. That way the database on this computer, B, is backed > up on computer A in case of any disaster. > That is my solution to using a database on several computers and > keeping it synchronized. The main thing is that you must only make > changes on one computer at a time and when you are done updating > anything on that computer database then you must backup to the shared > folder then restore to the master computer which in my case is B. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Arnold E. Krause > 1611 Arlington Ave., > Saskatoon, Sask., CANADA, S7H 2Y6 > Tel: (306) 374-3348 > email address: [email protected] > Homepage: http://members.shaw.ca/arnie-krause/index.htm > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Ken Schroeder > Sent: 05 February, 2014 12:23 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Use of FTM 2014 on Two Computers > > Great instructions BJ. > > I was fine until your second message that laid out the sequential > steps with desktop & laptop. I will study that a bit more. After my > first read I concluded nothing in the first set of instructions was > changed by the second set. Would you please confirm that? > > I do have to say for many novice users this will be a real hassle and > a negative for using two computers. Fortunately, I've been around them > since programming was performed by generating binary code and throwing > switches for the 1s and 0s. My problem now is remembering, so I cut > and pasted your instructions into a PDF file and will put them into my Companion Guide. > > Which reminds me, someone like you who always provides clear succinct > instructions should write a book about some of the more advanced work > arounds for users. Or FTM should contract someone to do that. I say > contract it, because I would rather see them using their resources to > advance the software. > > You and Russ have excellent grasps of the software's more subtle processes. > No offense Russ, but BJ writes great instructions. > Thank you > Ken Schroeder > > > Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 20:35:48 -0800 > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Use of FTM 2014 on Two Computers > > > > With the release of FTM 2014, you can do this a bit easier. This is > > because FTM 2014 can restore a link between an AMT and a computer > > file which has been restored using the FTM 2014 Backup feature. If > > I'm going to be on the road for a week or longer and I wanted to > > work on my Genealogy while I was not the road, I would do it this way. > > > > 1. On the desktop, I would use FTM 2014 to backup my file. Ensure you > > use all of the options for the backup: Include Media Files, > > Historical events, Web Favorites and Allow restored file to resume > > syncing. > > 2. Copy the backup file (file extension .FTMB) to the laptop. > > 3. Install FTM 2014 on the laptop. > > 4. Use the laptop to restore the backup file to the laptop. During the > > restore, ensure you tell it to restore the syncing using this file. > > It is important to realize that when you restore this backup to a > > file with syncing capability, the older file on the Desktop will NO > > longer be synced to the AMT. > > 5. Now use the laptop for all updating and inputting for the file. > > Continue to sync the file to the AMT while you are on your trip. > > 6. When you return from your trip and intend to start using your > > Desktop again, you must FIRST backup the file on the laptop. Again > > use all of the options especially to allow the restored file to > > resume syncing. > > 7. Copy the backup file to the Desktop. > > 8. At this time you have an important decision to make. Specifically do > > you intend to use the same file name and the same folder you were > > using before you went on your trip. If you do, then on the Desktop > > before doing anything else, open FTM 2014 and use it to delete the > > old FTM file on the Desktop. Remember this file has outdated > > information AND is no longer linked to the AMT tree. You want to > > delete it so you can use the same FTM file name. > > 9. Using FTM 2014 to restore the backup file (the one you just created > > using the Laptop). Again make sure you restore telling FTM to > > restore the sync link also. You should restore the file to the same > > name of your old file and in the same location. At this point, the > > file on the Desktop is synced to the AMT and the Laptop file will no > > longer be synced to the AMT. > > > > This works because FTM 2014 lets the user restore syncing from the > > restored file. Unfortunately, syncing is still limited between one > > AMT and one FTM File on one computer. Although I haven't used this > > technique to transfer the file and sync capability from one computer > > to another, I have used it to transfer the from one hard disk to another. > > > > I hope this is understandable. If you have any questions or > > concerns, please write to the list. > > > > BJ > > > > On 2/4/2014 3:43 PM, Ken Schroeder wrote: > > > Please be patient with me for sometimes I don't get my need across > > > on > the first try. > > > > > > If I understand things correctly, the suggestion presented by FTM > Companion GUIDE is to: > > > 1) create tree in FTM on my desktop > > > 2) upload and sync that FTM file to an AMT on Ancestry > > > 3) maintain my FTM- AMT sync by ONLY making changes to either my > > > desktop FTM or AMT > > > 3) when on the road make ALL changes and additions ONLY via > > > internet connected laptop to AMT > > > 4) when back home, via desktop FTM sync AMT with desktop FTM to > > > get road changes into desktop FTM Under this guidance there is > > > only one file > and one computer, as the laptop is only used to get via the internet > to the AMT. > > > Need or wish given that "One file to one computer rule with FTM > > > 2014 > SYNC process capability": > > > > > > Is there anyway to have the FTM 2014 program and data & media > > > files on > the laptop on the road for say a month? While relaxing I'd like to use > the FTM program to generate reports, record research notes and other > tasks that FTM program has to offer - separate from AMT data file > changes which I understand must be accomplished ONLY via internet. > > > > > > Can this be accomplished and if so how? 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