I wonder if you're looking at Ahnentafel numbers instead of ID numbers. If you are looking at a pedigree chart or Ahnentafel report, that's what you would get. By definition, Ahnentafel numbers double with each generation. The root person is 1. Double that to get the father; add 1 to the father to get the mother: 2 and 3. Do the same to each of the parents to get the grandparents: 4, 5, 6, and 7, continuing in the same manner for all the generations you have. Since each generation has twice as many people as the one before, the numbers are exponential and get large very quickly. The highest Ahnentafel number will be larger than the number of names you have because this numbering system creates a number for every possible person in every generation of your pedigree, whether you know their names or not. If you click the box to include the reference numbers in a pedigree chart, these are the numbers you will see. I haven't done the math all the way back to Charlemagne, but I would expect the numbers to be large. You will get to 1000 in 10 generations (2 to the 10th power). These numbers are not permanently assigned. They are calculated based on the root person. If you change the root person, he/she becomes #1 and all the other generations are recalculated accordingly. Maybe this will explain what you're seeing. Judy in Ocala Sent from my iPhone On Feb 21, 2014, at 11:23 PM, "Fred & Marie" <[email protected]> wrote: Hi John, I did not manually enter any personal ID numbers. I figured out how to delete all person Ids automatically by creating a new fact and changing the person lD to the new fact. Then deleting the new fact. I want to only use the automatic person Id. In FTM 2014 You can edit the automatic generated Person ID # and make it private by clicking on the pencil to the right of the grayed number. Now how do I fix the problem with the numbers in below as I only have 120000 people in the database and in the report every person has a number, how can the numbers be higher than 120000. Note the number 14752570713534 for Charlemagne Carolingian. Also note 59010282854136. i. Charles Martel. I never had numbers like this in older versions of FTM. 198664. Thomas Thornton. Thomas Thornton had the following child: 99332. i. Thomas Thornton. 198674. John de Dineley. John de Dineley had the following child: 99337. i. Margery Dyneley. She married Walter de Calvery. 209920. John De Bolling. He married Grace Papeley. 209921. Grace Papeley. Grace Papeley and John De Bolling had the following child: 49664. i. Robert de Bolling. He married Margaret Thornoe. 209922. Thomas Thornoe. Thomas Thornoe had the following child: 49665. i. Margaret Thornoe. She married Robert de Bolling. 14752570713534. Charlemagne Carolingian, son of Pepin the Short and Bertrada of Laon, was born in 747 AD in Herstal, Belgium. He died on Jan 28, 814 AD in Aachen, Germany. He married Hildegard. 14752570713535. Hildegard was born in 758 AD. She died in 783 AD. Plectrude and Pepin of Herstal had the following child: 59010282854136. i. Charles Martel was born on Aug 23, 686 AD I would still like to generate an all-in-one chart to a PDF file. Thanks Fred -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Donaldson Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 1:51 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] FTM 2014 all in one chart and reindexing database Go into Tools>Options>References and turn on the ID numbers FTM Help Notes Options: References The References tab in the Options dialog box lets you set up automatic reference numbering of the Person ID and Relationship ID facts for each record in your tree. The Person ID and Relationship ID facts provide a way for you to record a reference number for a person or relationship. You can enter values in these fields manually or enable Family Tree Maker to assign them automatically. When you enable the automatic reference numbers for an ID fact, a reference number is added to each record to which you have not assigned a reference number manually. You can enable automatic Person ID and Relationship ID numbering separately. Manually entered reference numbers A manually entered reference number can include any alphanumeric characters and does not need to be unique in the tree. You do not need to enter a reference number for each record or relationship; however, reference numbers can be helpful when searching for a record or identifying a person. You can include as many manually entered reference numbers as you want and can replace an automatically generated reference number with a manually entered reference number (see To edit an automatically generated reference number). Automatically entered reference numbers Family Tree Maker does not automatically assign reference numbers unless you have specified for it to do so in the References tab of the Options dialog box. Numbering begins with the first record in the database and incrementally assigns reference numbers according to the options you specify. There can be only one automatically entered reference number per person or relationship. If you delete all manually entered references, and automatic reference numbering is enabled, Family Tree Maker automatically assigns a reference number to the person or relationship. Because you can assign reference numbers manually to a person or relationship, Family Tree Maker follows distinct guidelines regarding reference numbers: .You can identify an automatically generated reference number from the gray background and lack of Options menu. When you click the number, an Edit Reference Number button appears. .Manual reference numbers always override automatic reference numbers. .Enabling automatic reference numbers does not overwrite existing manual reference numbers. .If you have added a Person ID or Relationship ID fact to a record but left it blank, an automatically generated reference number will NOT replace that reference number. You must remove the fact to enable automatic reference numbering for that record. .You cannot mark an automatic reference number as Preferred or Private. .You can mark a manual reference number as Preferred or Private. .You cannot include fact properties, sources, media, or notes with an automatically generated reference number. .You cannot delete an automatically generated Person ID or Relationship ID fact. .Automatic reference numbers are unique among themselves but can be identical to existing manual reference numbers. .When viewing Fact Data Options for Person ID or Relationship ID facts, only manual reference numbers are listed for All individuals. Automatically generated reference numbers will not be included. .When you disable automatic reference numbers, the automatic reference numbers are removed from all records. Manual Reference IDs are not removed. .Reference numbers (both automatic and manual) are NOT included in any of the exports John D -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Fred & Marie Sent: Wednesday, 19 February 2014 4:59 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] FTM 2014 all in one chart and reindexing database What I want is what was available in earlier versions of FTM that allowed you to generate a tree going back as far as you wanted in a tree with every one of your grandparents on one screen. Then create a PDF file that you can send to someone and they can pan around the tree not to print it. If you use the book option for the it will produce all the ancestors but on hundreds of different pages. Under options it allows me to pick a PDF driver and it is Adobe, but I can pick others like snagit and one note Older versions allowed you to reindex. Under a individuals personal information is Person Id number. On reindexing the file I mean the personal ID numbering assigned to each individual. I created a ahnentafel report and every one appears to be numbered correctly until about page 241 of 340 then the numbers jump to 147000, 2m, 4m, 6m , 18m, 78m, 156m, 313m . I only have 120,952 people in my database. For example Matilda Atheling of Scotland is listed as 80353188331 but if you go to this person there is NO ID number for her. This person I manually added the other day. If I go to Tools, Options, Reference and select Use individual reference numbers it then places a ID number 120409 for her but not in the report. Unchecking using individual reference numbers removes the ID for only the people that did not have the personal Id number which is about half the people in the database. How do I get the numbers corrected if you can't reindex the file in FTM 2014? What it looks like to me is that everyone I have added after the import to FTM 2014 is missing the personal ID number. 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