Good answer. I have had both experiences. Most of the time, I get no replies but in other cases, we have collaborated. I have some cousins who have two or three versions of their trees. I'm certain they don't maintain some of the older versions. Some of their trees contain errors which I have informed them of but the errors remain. I have had some people who have contacted me and we've corrected each others works. I think it all depends upon the conscientiousness of the owners. My own tree is synched and published as a Public Tree. I try to ensure my facts are well documented. Some of my information especially photos are slowly being incorporated into others' trees. Hopefully the documentation is also incorporated into those trees. My personal view to let people freely have access to my tree to see whether I can find others who are as diligent as I in documenting their research. BJ On 2/2/2014 1:38 PM, Nivard Ovington wrote: > Hi Barry > > There may be many reasons but I suspect the main one is that many start > researching, find or copy some data and then lose interest or fall ill > or worse > > Unless the tree owner removes their tree it will remain on there > > So many people have trees on Ancestry but have ceased to use it or moved > on to other pursuits, lost their email accounts etc > > Unfortunately there are those that copy data from other trees but do not > actually research it fully so mistakes are legion > > I suspect any serious researchers who are still on Ancestry would reply > > When I find errors I usually send a message informing the tree holder or > asking a question as to why they think that particular person is linked, > I rarely get a reply (and I mean rarely) > > If you know there is a particular error and the tree owner does not > reply you can always add a note to that person with the correct data > > Synching a tree FTM to Ancestry is an entirely separate subject of > course, the benefits are not having to key in data twice or the need to > uplift a gedcom and knowing that a synched tree can be accessed away > from home and the data is the same as the home computer > > You don't have to give access to your tree on Ancestry but you can > access wherever you are > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 02/02/2014 21:06, Barry S. Finkel wrote: >> I have seen lots of posts concerning syncing FTM trees with >> ancestry.com online trees. I am wondering why people want their >> trees online. The reason I ask is this - in my research I have found >> trees online on ancestry.com that contain pieces of my and my brother's >> tree. When I find a tree, I send ancestry mail to the tree owner asking >> him/her to contact me so that we can compare our trees and exchange >> information. Most of the time I get no replies, and I have no idea why. >> I thought that the reason for putting a tree online was to elicit more >> information from people who see tree online. >> >> Do these people not trust me and think that I an on a phishing >> expedition? I do not know the tree authors, and they do not know me. >> But our trees have persons in common. Thanks. >> >> --Barry Finkel, Chicago > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Version 2008 - 2012 > http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The documentation for the photos is picked up when they merge the pics into their trees. Whatever id and description you have put with the pic goes with it as well as a notation that the pic was originally uploaded by you into whatever tree name you put it in. That is one disadvantage I have in keeping my tree private. They do not allow people invited to the tree to merge the photos like they can from a public tree so my documentation does not follow them when they have to do a copy and paste. I have asked that this be changed but so far nothing. Annie in Minnesota Some of my information especially photos are slowly being incorporated into others' trees. Hopefully the documentation is also incorporated into those trees. My personal view to let people freely have access to my tree to see whether I can find others who are as diligent as I in documenting their research. -----Original Message----- From: BJ <[email protected]> To: ftm-tech <[email protected]> Sent: Sun, Feb 2, 2014 4:02 pm Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Online Trees Good answer. I have had both experiences. Most of the time, I get no replies but in other cases, we have collaborated. I have some cousins who have two or three versions of their trees. I'm certain they don't maintain some of the older versions. Some of their trees contain errors which I have informed them of but the errors remain. I have had some people who have contacted me and we've corrected each others works. I think it all depends upon the conscientiousness of the owners. My own tree is synched and published as a Public Tree. I try to ensure my facts are well documented. Some of my information especially photos are slowly being incorporated into others' trees. Hopefully the documentation is also incorporated into those trees. My personal view to let people freely have access to my tree to see whether I can find others who are as diligent as I in documenting their research. BJ On 2/2/2014 1:38 PM, Nivard Ovington wrote: > Hi Barry > > There may be many reasons but I suspect the main one is that many start > researching, find or copy some data and then lose interest or fall ill > or worse > > Unless the tree owner removes their tree it will remain on there > > So many people have trees on Ancestry but have ceased to use it or moved > on to other pursuits, lost their email accounts etc > > Unfortunately there are those that copy data from other trees but do not > actually research it fully so mistakes are legion > > I suspect any serious researchers who are still on Ancestry would reply > > When I find errors I usually send a message informing the tree holder or > asking a question as to why they think that particular person is linked, > I rarely get a reply (and I mean rarely) > > If you know there is a particular error and the tree owner does not > reply you can always add a note to that person with the correct data > > Synching a tree FTM to Ancestry is an entirely separate subject of > course, the benefits are not having to key in data twice or the need to > uplift a gedcom and knowing that a synched tree can be accessed away > from home and the data is the same as the home computer > > You don't have to give access to your tree on Ancestry but you can > access wherever you are > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 02/02/2014 21:06, Barry S. Finkel wrote: >> I have seen lots of posts concerning syncing FTM trees with >> ancestry.com online trees. I am wondering why people want their >> trees online. The reason I ask is this - in my research I have found >> trees online on ancestry.com that contain pieces of my and my brother's >> tree. When I find a tree, I send ancestry mail to the tree owner asking >> him/her to contact me so that we can compare our trees and exchange >> information. Most of the time I get no replies, and I have no idea why. >> I thought that the reason for putting a tree online was to elicit more >> information from people who see tree online. >> >> Do these people not trust me and think that I an on a phishing >> expedition? I do not know the tree authors, and they do not know me. >> But our trees have persons in common. Thanks. >> >> --Barry Finkel, Chicago > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Version 2008 - 2012 > http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Version 2008 - 2012 http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi BJ I suspect that many people who uplift trees onto Ancestry do not realise they stay on there until the owner removes them, they then uplift a 2nd or more tree thinking its superceding the first tree but instead it adds to the trees on there I have seen several or more trees with the same owner, they appear to be a succession of trees added over time Like a lot of sites Ancestry do not want to remove data unless they have to as it adds to the numbers game If more users removed their earlier trees it might cut down the proliferation of errors where later and better data has been found and added Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 02/02/2014 21:58, BJ wrote: > Good answer. I have had both experiences. > > Most of the time, I get no replies but in other cases, we have > collaborated. I have some cousins who have two or three versions of > their trees. I'm certain they don't maintain some of the older > versions. Some of their trees contain errors which I have informed them > of but the errors remain. I have had some people who have contacted me > and we've corrected each others works. I think it all depends upon the > conscientiousness of the owners. My own tree is synched and published > as a Public Tree. I try to ensure my facts are well documented. Some > of my information especially photos are slowly being incorporated into > others' trees. Hopefully the documentation is also incorporated into > those trees. > > My personal view to let people freely have access to my tree to see > whether I can find others who are as diligent as I in documenting their > research. > > BJ

Just had a thought (question) while following this thread. Does anyone know if the online trees include trees submitted to the World Family Tree project? And if so how can the submitters (15 years ago - Volume 23) replace them or take them down?   Jay Thompson just an old genealogy nut too tough to crack. ________________________________ From: Nivard Ovington <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, February 3, 2014 7:17 AM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Online Trees Hi BJ I suspect that many people who uplift trees onto Ancestry do not realise they stay on there until the owner removes them, they then uplift a 2nd or more tree thinking its superceding the first tree but instead it adds to the trees on there I have seen several or more trees with the same owner, they appear to be a succession of trees added over time Like a lot of sites Ancestry do not want to remove data unless they have to as it adds to the numbers game If more users removed their earlier trees it might cut down the proliferation of errors where later and better data has been found and added Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 02/02/2014 21:58, BJ wrote: > Good answer.  I have had both experiences. > > Most of the time, I get no replies but in other cases, we have > collaborated.  I have some cousins who have two or three versions of > their trees.  I'm certain they don't maintain some of the older > versions.  Some of their trees contain errors which I have informed them > of but the errors remain.  I have had some people who have contacted me > and we've corrected each others works.  I think it all depends upon the > conscientiousness of the owners.  My own tree is synched and published > as a Public Tree.  I try to ensure my facts are well documented.  Some > of my information especially photos are slowly being incorporated into > others' trees.  Hopefully the documentation is also incorporated into > those trees. > > My personal view to let people freely have access to my tree to see > whether I can find others who are as diligent as I in documenting their > research. > > BJ ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Version 2008 - 2012 http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message