All of the "noise" on this list could have been avoided if Ancestry had just displayed a message that "download of this image is not permitted, contact <XYZ> to purchase it" Or something like that. Five minutes from a good programmer would have saved me many hours of tests, and a lot of you time as well (thanks!). And in the end it turned out we were all correct! I'm cc-ing this to Ancestry as well. Perhaps they will put it on a punch list to do. However, it seems to me that in the past, if a record was found but not downloadable, you could not get as far as seeing it. There was no "image" link. (this might be another site, but I thought it true on Ancestry as well). It appeared to me abnormal, and thus as a bug. I brought this up last night with a large genealogy group, and there were quite a number of astounded members saying that isn't that why we pay big bucks to Ancestry, to get records? What if all sites decided to do what SAR has done with Ancestry? It breaks the model. I also think our exorbitant fees to Ancestry should actually get us the record. If this is the Ancestry model of the future, it doesn't bode well. John On 3/5/2015 12:55 PM, John Okerson via wrote: >> You may have missed my earlier post > > I did indeed! > >> Try any image, you will only get the "Save to person in your tree" or > "Save to your Shoebox" options > > You are so darned right! GRRRR > > John