Jim, I played around with a town in 2 counties. If I entered "address, city, state" then clicked resolve address, it obviously doesn't resolve. But if I click (in the resolve places window) the button to the left (arrow up), it moves the street address to the line above. Then it suggests my options, which includes both county choices. Choosing the correct one and clicking "replace" puts that one in. Back in the PERSON view, the address is kept in the location field. Looking at the PLACES view, I see drop down lists on the left. I get USA, then State, County, and City, with the street address below that. The map happened to place the thumbtack across the street, but I could move that to the correct location. Your situation is a little different due to Alexandria being an "independent city" in Virginia, but it's similar. If I put in your example the same way, and move up the street address, I get choices for both "Alexandria, Independent Cities, Virginia" and "Alexandria, Fairfax, Viriginia". Choosing Fairfax County places the thumbtack correctly on the map, and the drop-down list in PLACES view shows it correctly. But you DO lose the zip code. Although that could be entered in the description, I suppose. You are right, the PNA can't tell you automatically that the above address is in Fairfax County, but it can let you distinguish between the Independent City and the other areas named Alexandria. It's going to boil down to how you want the data stored in your file. Personally, I have the street address in the description field, and I don't worry about the zip code--but that's me. Having played around with it a bit, though, I may consider moving the address up to the location field--it's kind of neat to be able to pull up the map and see the points. On the other hand I don't know if I want ALL of that printing in charts and reports, or taking the time to enter shortened versions. I'll think about it a bit before making a move. I don't know if that helps you or not. Good luck in deciding how you want to handle it! Christine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Hoke via" <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> To: "FTM-TECH mailing list submission" <FTM-TECH@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 10:26:04 AM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving Place Names Since the discussion several weeks ago on resolving place names, I've been slowly working my way through my FTM database, revising the Residence entries and other location-related facts to be consistent with the Place Name Authority. One facet I'm still wrestling with is how best to enter U.S. Postal Service mailing addresses. The problem is that the USPS address might not clearly reflect the geographic location in terms of city or township. For example, a sample address in our area is 2401 Cavendish Drive, Alexandria, VA 22308. Not only is that address not located in Alexandria, it is in a different county from Alexandria, namely Fairfax County. Similarly the USPS address can indicate a city or town that is not in the same township as the location designated by that address. Thus, the Place Name Authority cannot accurately reflect the location for the USPS address. At this point one option I have considered for entering USPS addresses is by using just the Description portion of the Address fact. Putting the USPS address in the Place portion of the Address fact creates a PNA conflict. I guess another option is to put the entire USPS address (including street number, street name, city, state, and zip code) in the Description portion of a Residence fact. Any suggestions on a better approach would be greatly appreciated. Jim Hoke ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 18:08:30 +0000 (UTC) From: Drew DUBLER <drew@drucifer.net> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving Place Names To: Debbie <growingatree@hotmail.com>, "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <930359453.951713.1424974110669.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I use RESIDENCE for Town, County, State, Country. I use ADDRESS for Street. I use POSTAL CODE for Zip Code. I use CENSUS for Wards, Assembly Districts. . I'm thinking of adding BUILDING NUMBER as I have lots of families living on the same block in New York City. ?Drew Cold Spring, Putnam Co., NY O|||||||O Modeling the New York Central in N Scale and Trainz Backyard Birding & Gardening in the New York Hudson Valley Genealogy HERLIHY, GOULDING, GREENE, LALIME & LENT, LYNT, van LENT Homepage: http://drucifer.net/index.html ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I enter shortened place names on the fly. If the report or chart I'm creating needs it, then I go back and do it. Judy in Ocala On Mar 10, 2015, at 11:26 AM, Chris Bauman via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> wrote: Jim, I played around with a town in 2 counties. If I entered "address, city, state" then clicked resolve address, it obviously doesn't resolve. But if I click (in the resolve places window) the button to the left (arrow up), it moves the street address to the line above. Then it suggests my options, which includes both county choices. Choosing the correct one and clicking "replace" puts that one in. Back in the PERSON view, the address is kept in the location field. Looking at the PLACES view, I see drop down lists on the left. I get USA, then State, County, and City, with the street address below that. The map happened to place the thumbtack across the street, but I could move that to the correct location. Your situation is a little different due to Alexandria being an "independent city" in Virginia, but it's similar. If I put in your example the same way, and move up the street address, I get choices for both "Alexandria, Independent Cities, Virginia" and "Alexandria, Fairfax, Viriginia". Choosing Fairfax County places the thumbtack correctly on the map, and the drop-down list in PLACES view shows it correctly. But you DO lose the zip code. Although that could be entered in the description, I suppose. You are right, the PNA can't tell you automatically that the above address is in Fairfax County, but it can let you distinguish between the Independent City and the other areas named Alexandria. It's going to boil down to how you want the data stored in your file. Personally, I have the street address in the description field, and I don't worry about the zip code--but that's me. Having played around with it a bit, though, I may consider moving the address up to the location field--it's kind of neat to be able to pull up the map and see the points. On the other hand I don't know if I want ALL of that printing in charts and reports, or taking the time to enter shortened versions. I'll think about it a bit before making a move. I don't know if that helps you or not. Good luck in deciding how you want to handle it! Christine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Hoke via" <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> To: "FTM-TECH mailing list submission" <FTM-TECH@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 10:26:04 AM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving Place Names Since the discussion several weeks ago on resolving place names, I've been slowly working my way through my FTM database, revising the Residence entries and other location-related facts to be consistent with the Place Name Authority. One facet I'm still wrestling with is how best to enter U.S. Postal Service mailing addresses. The problem is that the USPS address might not clearly reflect the geographic location in terms of city or township. For example, a sample address in our area is 2401 Cavendish Drive, Alexandria, VA 22308. Not only is that address not located in Alexandria, it is in a different county from Alexandria, namely Fairfax County. Similarly the USPS address can indicate a city or town that is not in the same township as the location designated by that address. Thus, the Place Name Authority cannot accurately reflect the location for the USPS address. At this point one option I have considered for entering USPS addresses is by using just the Description portion of the Address fact. Putting the USPS address in the Place portion of the Address fact creates a PNA conflict. I guess another option is to put the entire USPS address (including street number, street name, city, state, and zip code) in the Description portion of a Residence fact. Any suggestions on a better approach would be greatly appreciated. Jim Hoke ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 18:08:30 +0000 (UTC) From: Drew DUBLER <drew@drucifer.net> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving Place Names To: Debbie <growingatree@hotmail.com>, "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <930359453.951713.1424974110669.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I use RESIDENCE for Town, County, State, Country. I use ADDRESS for Street. I use POSTAL CODE for Zip Code. I use CENSUS for Wards, Assembly Districts. . I'm thinking of adding BUILDING NUMBER as I have lots of families living on the same block in New York City. ?Drew Cold Spring, Putnam Co., NY O|||||||O Modeling the New York Central in N Scale and Trainz Backyard Birding & Gardening in the New York Hudson Valley Genealogy HERLIHY, GOULDING, GREENE, LALIME & LENT, LYNT, van LENT Homepage: http://drucifer.net/index.html ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message