I assume you mean on the Outline Descendant report--and you are right, it doesn't label them as a 2nd spouse--just the + sign in front of the name, as with the first spouse. So if there are children from the first marriage (and grands and great-grands . . . .), yes, it can be down quite a way, and you are right--it can be difficult to line it up. I can't check the reports in my v16, because my laptop (windows 7) is unhappy with my C+ runtime file, so I'd have to restart it and hopefully have it load correctly so I can run the older version. Oh, wait! I just remembered that I had some old ones saved as PDFs for cousins, so opened one up. I see now what you are wanting. The 2nd spouse is still listed with a + in front of their name, but there's a line inserted above that with an * on the left, saying "*2nd Husband of <name>:" That's probably not a terribly complicated modification to make (like many on the list, I'm also a retired programmer!), so definitely submit it as a program change request. I didn't understand what was missing for you before. Sorry for the confusion. I also added the list back on, so others could follow. Christine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary W. Ellis" <mwellis@triad.rr.com> To: "Chris Bauman" <chris.bauman@comcast.net> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 1:51:54 AM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] FTM 16 v. 2014: The Great Debate If you actually see the label 2nd spouse, full name etc. then please tell me how you managed to get it there my has the second spouse but no label telling me who the spouse if for or what number it is. If its half a page down or even on the next sheet is isn't easy to line up and figure which person they go with. Mary On 2/21/2015 10:55 PM, Chris Bauman wrote: In the 2014 software, (build 1345) I see 2nd spouses (multiple times) in both the Outline Report, and the Outline Descendant Report. In the Outline Report, the spouses are listed with full names, parents' names (if available) marriage date, and birth and death dates (if available). In the Outline Descendant Report, each spouse has a + sign preceding their name. In playing around with it, I discovered that I didn't have some of mine set up with the correct spouse order (it uses that in determining their order in both the reports, regardless of which spouse is preferred). So I at least straightened out the ones I was looking at! Christine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary W. Ellis via" <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 6:29:46 PM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] FTM 16 v. 2014: The Great Debate I forgot to mention, the Outline report no longer marks second or third spouses. You have to go through and look them up and mark them before you can sent the report to anyone. Even if they are familiar with your database it would be very hard for them to figure it out. It's hard for me to, I have to go back and look up what looks like a stray person to see who they belong to. It's really crazy to leave that very important part out of the report. Mary Ellis On 2/21/2015 3:18 AM, Mary W. Ellis via wrote: > Judy, I'm using 2014, but the custom report in v16 had the one in 2014 > beat in all aspects, I can use the one we have now but it is harder to > get what you want out of it. > Mary Ellis > > > On 2/20/2015 11:47 PM, Judy in Ocala via wrote: >> We are coming up on 8 years since v. 16 was completely reprogrammed to a new database structure. In the beginning, we all felt that v. 2008 was lacking many of the features that we loved in 16. >> >> Over the years many improvements and enhancements have been made to succeeding versions and upgrades. As a result, version 2014 is a much more stable, robust, and versatile program than 2008 was. >> >> But in spite of the many improvements, there is an bedrock of loyal users of v. 16. One of the reasons often given for sticking with 16 is the reports, but there hasn't been much discussion about why the reports in 16 are better. >> >> So I'm asking those who are still using v. 16 to share their opinions. And not just about reports, but if you think there are other ways in which v. 16 is superior. >> >> Please give examples, and keep your comments constructive. >> >> Judy in Ocala >> ********************************** >> List information page >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> -- If you don't know your family history, you are a leaf that doesn't know it is part of a tree. ~ Michael Crichton ~ Mary W. 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