Ian, Sorry, with all due respect, gotta disagree with you. BUT the disagreement come from so many, uses of AMT complaining that ALL of their information was 'stolen' from "my" AMT. Sorry, I put to much time and work into my research to have someone take my information for their own AND call it their own. I rarely let anyone be an Editor on my Tree. In fact, none of my trees have Editors. The notes can be seen, but not everything. But, what do I know. Russ ___________________________ Mailto:rworthington@att.net ________________________________ From: Ian Marr via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, February 23, 2015 12:02 AM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] AMT vs FTM (The Great Debate) Hi Russ, To all intentional purposes, you are right - "The information IS the SAME in your AMT and in your FTM2014 file". However, and I have complained about this in the past, not everything is accessible. I, and I am sure many others, have their trees uploaded into an AMT so that they can make it available to other researchers, with the intention that others researching similar lines can both obtain information to help with their own research and provide new or corrected information to me - thus broadening my research base, and theirs, as wide as possible. I make extensive use of personal notes in my recording. Unless you are viewing your own tree or are an invited "guest" to someone else's tree, these notes are not available. You then have the problem that others can modify your data if they have been invited to your tree. This reduces the effectiveness of the AMT as a vehicle for making available important information about those you are researching and can open you up to outside "corruption" of your data. I have even gone to the extent of maintaining a tree (direct-line ancestors & siblings only) in TribalPages for the simple reason that, although limited to 8000 words approximately per individual, I can include all my notes. There are many reasons why I maintain an online version of my tree, including the ancestry AMT (and these do not include back-up purposes) - but until they make all notes (except those marked "private") available in a read-only form for ALL users, it will always remain a second-rate vehicle for sharing your research. Regards, Ian MARR at 38° 24' 01.299" S by 142° 34' 11.9094" E; 6m above sea level This message can be considered to be in the public domain. The home of SW Victorian Cemetery indexes: http://www.ianmarr.net.au/ Allansford Weather (10 min updates): http://www.ianmarr.net.au/Weather/ Family Tree: http://marrwatts.tribalpages.com/ Remember, to EVERY question in life, there is MORE than ONE correct answer. -----Original Message----- From: H R Worthington via Sent: Monday, February 23, 2015 1:33 PM To: Debbie ; ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] The Great Debate Debbie, The information IS the SAME in your AMT and in your FTM2014 file. What is not in your AMT that isn't in your FTM2014 file? Please be very careful how you answer that question. As, you may not be able to SEE everything in your AMT but there is a lot of information in the AMT structure that you can't see. I have backed up my file, from my AMT for a Test. Lots of information not seen in the AMT were returned to my restored file. Russ ___________________________ Mailto:rworthington@att.net ________________________________ From: Debbie <growingatree@hotmail.com> To: H R Worthington <rworthington@att.net>; "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 8:29 PM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] The Great Debate Of course I want citations in AMT. But, there's value in having a one-to-many relationship in cases where the same citation can link to multiple people. When I sync things, I don't want the differences in the two systems to modify my work. If I add citatation #1 to Person A, B, and C.... sync the two systems..... why do I now have three copies of the identical citation? Furthermore, I was really angered when sync issues in the last version corrupted my file and I had to download the tree from AMT into FTM..... because I knew that the tree I'd be getting wasn't 100% mirror image of my FTM tree. They should invest in making the systems identical so that there are no difference between the two copies. ________________________________ From: H R Worthington <rworthington@att.net> To: Debbie <growingatree@hotmail.com>; "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 6:49 PM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] The Great Debate Debbie, That is NOT in FTM2014 that is in the Ancestry Member Tree. It is being presented in the AMT on each Fact where that Citation is used. If you really think about it, each Citation is on each person in FTM2014. So, I am sorry, but don't understand the issue. Don't you want Citations in the AMT? Russ ___________________________ Mailto:rworthington@att.net ________________________________ From: Debbie <growingatree@hotmail.com> To: H R Worthington <rworthington@att.net>; "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 6:25 PM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] The Great Debate Another question I have..... the whole sync process and it's impact on sources. At times I'll work in FTM and add a single source to the facts for multiple people. One-to-Many relationship. I sync with Ancestry Trees and whala -- all of a sudden I have a separate source for each person, a one-to-one relationship. I don't want to have separate sources in these cases. 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