Tom, I tried FTM 2008, 2009, and one of the later versions. They simply did not meet my needs. I was able to get V 16 to work on my computer at the time. I am now on Windows 8.1 and V16 works very well. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 22, 2015, at 12:29 PM, Tom Herson via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > C'mon, it's time you spent a little money and got in the modern age ;-) > >> On 2/22/2015 11:55 AM, BUDDY HARRELSON via wrote: >> Why don't they leave FTM 16 as is; and maybe improve it some and let us who want to keep it use it and let FTM/Ancestry stay. I am sure they sold more FTM 16 than the new versions. >> Buddy Harrelson >> Mullins, SC >> harrelsonb@bellsouth.net >> >> >> On Sunday, February 22, 2015 3:01 AM, "ftm-tech-request@rootsweb.com" <ftm-tech-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> ********************************** >> List information page >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html >> >> Version 2008-2014 >> http://ftm.custhelp.com/ >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: FTM 16 v. 2014: The Great Debate (Chris Bauman) >> 2. Re: FTM 16 v. 2014: The Great Debate (BJ) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 03:55:36 +0000 (UTC) >> From: Chris Bauman <chris.bauman@comcast.net> >> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] FTM 16 v. 2014: The Great Debate >> To: "Mary W. Ellis" <mwellis@triad.rr.com>, ftm-tech@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: >> <1898802906.10460489.1424577336235.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >> >> In the 2014 software, (build 1345) I see 2nd spouses (multiple times) in both the Outline Report, and the Outline Descendant Report. In the Outline Report, the spouses are listed with full names, parents' names (if available) marriage date, and birth and death dates (if available). In the Outline Descendant Report, each spouse has a + sign preceding their name. In playing around with it, I discovered that I didn't have some of mine set up with the correct spouse order (it uses that in determining their order in both the reports, regardless of which spouse is preferred). So I at least straightened out the ones I was looking at! >> >> Christine >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Mary W. Ellis via" <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> >> To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 6:29:46 PM >> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] FTM 16 v. 2014: The Great Debate >> >> I forgot to mention, the Outline report no longer marks second or third >> spouses. You have to go through and look them up and mark them before >> you can sent the report to anyone. Even if they are familiar with your >> database it would be very hard for them to figure it out. It's hard for >> me to, I have to go back and look up what looks like a stray person to >> see who they belong to. It's really crazy to leave that very important >> part out of the report. >> >> Mary Ellis >> >>> On 2/21/2015 3:18 AM, Mary W. Ellis via wrote: >>> Judy, I'm using 2014, but the custom report in v16 had the one in 2014 >>> beat in all aspects, I can use the one we have now but it is harder to >>> get what you want out of it. >>> Mary Ellis >>> >>> >>>> On 2/20/2015 11:47 PM, Judy in Ocala via wrote: >>>> We are coming up on 8 years since v. 16 was completely reprogrammed to a new database structure. In the beginning, we all felt that v. 2008 was lacking many of the features that we loved in 16. >>>> >>>> Over the years many improvements and enhancements have been made to succeeding versions and upgrades. As a result, version 2014 is a much more stable, robust, and versatile program than 2008 was. >>>> >>>> But in spite of the many improvements, there is an bedrock of loyal users of v. 16. One of the reasons often given for sticking with 16 is the reports, but there hasn't been much discussion about why the reports in 16 are better. >>>> >>>> So I'm asking those who are still using v. 16 to share their opinions. And not just about reports, but if you think there are other ways in which v. 16 is superior. >>>> >>>> Please give examples, and keep your comments constructive. >>>> >>>> Judy in Ocala >>>> ********************************** >>>> List information page >>>> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message