Have you been able to get the download to work? Doesn't for me. hab On 2/27/2015 09:48, rewolf4 via wrote: > Most of the information on the CD's has been put online or incorporated > into Family Search or Ancestry. Despite that, I have the whole set, and > find them very useful. You can download Family Archive Viewer from > http://www.genealogy.com/abtffiv.html. This is Version 11 and works with > Vista, Windows 7 and 8. > > Rewolf4 > > On 2/27/2015 1:00 AM, ftm-tech-request@rootsweb.com wrote: >> ********************************** >> List information page >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html >> >> Version 2008-2014 >> http://ftm.custhelp.com/ >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: The Great Debate (Judy In Ocala) >> 2. Re: Resolving Place Names (Drew DUBLER) >> 3. Re: Searching for blank surnames (Debbie) >> 4. Unknown Names (H R Worthington) >> 5. Re: Family Archive CDs (Joan Parker) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 10:46:17 -0500 >> From: Judy In Ocala <treewright@gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] The Great Debate >> To: "Timothy N. West" <tim_west@verizon.net>, "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" >> <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <CEAE77FF-4B65-4967-803A-A825C85C5A64@gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> I like that suggestion. I have been wanting that too! I haven't needed to create a bibliography in a while, so I had forgotten about that problem. >> >> Judy in Ocala >> >> >> >>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 3:20 PM, Timothy N. West via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>> >>> I would like to see them add back the ability print a bibliography >>> containing only those sources requested. Currently it appears one can only >>> print a bibliography that contains all sources defined within your FTM file. >>> This makes the bibliography report essentially useless unless one is >>> creating a report or book for ALL people in your FTM database. >>> >>> With FTM 16, I could generate a report about a group of specific people and >>> attach a bibliography of only those sources relevant to that group of >>> specific people. I've been unable to figure out how to do that in FTM 2010, >>> FTM 2012, and now FTM 2014. >>> >>> Unfortunately, even within the Book Feature, creating a bibliography >>> includes all sources within the FTM file regardless of their use within that >>> book. There is no way to tell the bibliography feature to only produce the >>> list of sources used for select individuals. We used to be able to do this >>> in FTM 16 and earlier versions. It disappeared when FTM 2010, 2012, and now >>> 2014 were released. >>> >>> And since I'm wishing for changes with the bibliography, I would like to see >>> the annotation paragraphs (within the bibliography) indented to make it >>> easier to see where each bibliographic entry begins and ends. >>> >>> FTM 2014 provides a hanging indent for the source and then again with the >>> annotation. Yes, bibliographic source entries are separated by a white >>> space line but so are the annotations. Because both the bibliographic >>> source entry and its respective annotation are formatted exactly the same, >>> it is not easy to scan the bibliography looking for a specific entry even >>> when alphabetized. Looking through a 106 page bibliography to find a >>> specific source, while not impossible, is not as easy as it should be >>> because the annotations appear to the brain to mess up the alphabetic >>> sequence. I thought I might be able to use font changes to distinguish but, >>> alas, FTM does not provide that level of font granularity. FTM2010-2014 do >>> offer the option to show a dotted line divider between sources but the >>> dotted line is very faint and thus doesn't really help the reader. Below is >>> a quick sample output of what I see and what I would like to see. (Note: >>> The dotted lines are a lot darker here than they appear in the FTM Source >>> Bibliography report). >>> >>> ======Current FTM2014 Sample======= >>> >>> Bible of Goldman Smith and Letha Hammock Smith (Texas Centennial Blue Ribbon >>> Bible; John A Hertel >>> Company, Chicago, IL; 1948), Debbie Reynolds, 15 Mandy Lane, >>> Forsyth, GA 31029. Source >>> Medium: Book >>> >>> Lists the grandparents, great-grandparents, and dates of both Goldman Smith >>> and Letha Hammock. Lists >>> their children, birth dates, death dates, marriage dates, spouse and >>> lists many of their >>> grandchildren. >>> ................................................................. >>> Blasius-Baker Funeral Home, Blasius-Baker Funeral Home Memorial Card (9320 >>> West St., Manassas, >>> VA), Copy in possession of Timothy N. West. Source Medium: Card >>> >>> Gloria Dean Plaugher provided the card because I was unable to attend the >>> funeral. >>> ................................................................. >>> Blevins, Ray and Laccie, Jonathan Blevins Sr. of Virginia and His >>> Descendants (Overmountain Press, >>> Johnson City, TN; 1982), Copy held by Mark S. Blevins, P.O. Box >>> 4491, Chattanooga, TN >>> 37405-0491. Source Medium: Book >>> >>> This book was a special edition (not for the general public), and it is no >>> longer in print. Ray Blevins is >>> working on a new edition of this book. >>> ................................................................. >>> Boat Capsizes - Harness Youth Drowns - Brother of Victim Saved by Companion >>> (18289 Alberta Street, >>> Oneida, TN 37841, The Scott County News, 22 Jul 1976). >>> ................................................................. >>> Borden, Duane L. and Jeanette Conner Ritenour, Marriages, Shenandoah County, >>> Virginia 1850-1882 >>> (Duane L. Borden, 5995 West Arizona Ave., Denver, CO 80226; 1987), >>> Fairfax County Public >>> Library, Fairfax, Fairfax Co, VA, VREF 929.3755 SHEN. Source Medium: >>> Book >>> >>> A compilation of marriages taken from the Shenandoah Co, VA marriage >>> registers. The author believes >>> the compilation reaches into approximately 85% of the families >>> residing in Shenandoah Co during >>> 9 Jul 1850 through 25 Dec 1881. Some genealogy had been added to the >>> compilation by the >>> authors and is usually identified within parentheses below the >>> marriage. The primary index lists >>> both grooms and brides. A supplemental index is also included and >>> identifies names missed in >>> the primary index. >>> ................................................................. >>> ======End current sample======= >>> >>> I would prefer the title of the entry to be bolded and the annotation to be >>> fully indented (not just hanging indented). I think the bibliography would >>> be better suited to be formatted as follows (unfortunately I can't show >>> bolded titles within the FTM-TECH list): >>> >>> ======Preferred sample======== >>> >>> Bible of Goldman Smith and Letha Hammock Smith (Texas Centennial Blue Ribbon >>> Bible; John A Hertel >>> Company, Chicago, IL; 1948), Debbie Reynolds, 15 Mandy Lane, >>> Forsyth, GA 31029. Source >>> Medium: Book >>> >>> Lists the grandparents, great-grandparents, and dates of both >>> Goldman Smith and Letha Hammock. >>> Lists their children, birth dates, death dates, marriage dates, >>> spouse and lists many of their >>> grandchildren. >>> >>> Blasius-Baker Funeral Home, Blasius-Baker Funeral Home Memorial Card (9320 >>> West St., Manassas, >>> VA), Copy in possession of Timothy N. West. Source Medium: Card >>> >>> Gloria Dean Plaugher provided the card because I was unable to >>> attend the funeral. >>> >>> Blevins, Ray and Laccie, Jonathan Blevins Sr. of Virginia and His >>> Descendants (Overmountain Press, >>> Johnson City, TN; 1982), Copy held by Mark S. Blevins, P.O. Box >>> 4491, Chattanooga, TN >>> 37405-0491. Source Medium: Book >>> >>> This book was a special edition (not for the general public), and it >>> is no longer in print. Ray >>> Blevins is working on a new edition of this book. >>> >>> Boat Capsizes - Harness Youth Drowns - Brother of Victim Saved by Companion >>> (18289 Alberta Street, >>> Oneida, TN 37841, The Scott County News, 22 Jul 1976). >>> >>> Borden, Duane L. and Jeanette Conner Ritenour, Marriages, Shenandoah County, >>> Virginia 1850-1882 >>> (Duane L. Borden, 5995 West Arizona Ave., Denver, CO 80226; 1987), >>> Fairfax County Public >>> Library, Fairfax, Fairfax Co, VA, VREF 929.3755 SHEN. Source Medium: >>> Book >>> >>> A compilation of marriages taken from the Shenandoah Co, VA marriage >>> registers. The author >>> believes the compilation reaches into approximately 85% of the >>> families residing in Shenandoah >>> Co during 9 Jul 1850 through 25 Dec 1881. Some genealogy had been >>> added to the compilation >>> by the authors and is usually identified within parentheses below >>> the marriage. The primary >>> index lists both grooms and brides. A supplemental index is also >>> included and identifies names >>> missed in the primary index. >>> >>> =======End preferred sample======== >>> >>> >>> .tim west. >>> >>> Scott County, Tennessee Coordinator for the TNGenWeb Project >>> http://www.tngenweb.org/scott >>> >>> ------------------Original Message------------------ >>>> From: Judy in Ocala <treewright@gmail.com> >>>> Subject: [FTM-TECH] FTM 16 v. 2014: The Great Debate >>>> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 23:47:13 -0500 >>>> >>>> We are coming up on 8 years since v. 16 was completely reprogrammed to a >>> new database structure. In the beginning, we all felt that v. 2008 was >>> lacking many of the features that we loved in 16. >>>> Over the years many improvements and enhancements have been made to >>> succeeding versions and upgrades. As a result, version 2014 is a much more >>> stable, robust, and versatile program than 2008 was. >>>> But in spite of the many improvements, there is an bedrock of loyal users >>> of v. 16. One of the reasons often given for sticking with 16 is the >>> reports, but there hasn't been much discussion about why the reports in 16 >>> are better. >>>> So I'm asking those who are still using v. 16 to share their opinions. And >>> not just about reports, but if you think there are other ways in which v. 16 >>> is superior. >>>> Please give examples, and keep your comments constructive. >>>> >>>> Judy in Ocala >>> ********************************** >>> List information page >>> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 18:08:30 +0000 (UTC) >> From: Drew DUBLER <drew@drucifer.net> >> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving Place Names >> To: Debbie <growingatree@hotmail.com>, "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" >> <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: >> <930359453.951713.1424974110669.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> >> I use RESIDENCE for Town, County, State, CountryI use ADDRESS for Street >> I use POSTAL CODE for Zip CodeI use CENSUS for Wards, Assembly Districts >> >> I'm thinking of adding BUILDING NUMBER >> As I have lots of families living on the same block in New York City >> ?Drew >> Cold Spring, Putnam Co., NY >> O|||||||O >> Modeling the New York Central in N Scale and Trainz >> Backyard Birding & Gardening in the New York Hudson Valley >> Genealogy HERLIHY, GOULDING, GREENE, LALIME & LENT, LYNT, van LENT >> >> Homepage: http://drucifer.net/index.html >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 00:57:35 +0000 (UTC) >> From: Debbie <growingatree@hotmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Searching for blank surnames >> To: "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com>, >> "oldtrails@gmx.com" <oldtrails@gmx.com> >> Message-ID: >> <504090937.348255.1424998655423.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> >> Regarding the posts on unknown names.... If you add the word "Unknown" or things like "husband of John Smith" it will screw up the search results when Ancestry (or family search) is doing searches to identify potential matches to the record (i.e. "tips"). >> >> >> I don't like leaving it blank and use --?-- for any unknown names. This helps with the sorting process. All names that have a first name and no last name will appear at the top of the name list with the following format: >> >> --?--, Jane >> --?--, Dorothy Anna >> >> I also use it for missing first names: >> >> Richardson, --?-- >> >> And in cases where I don't know either name. For example, if a document says "the couple had three children." >> >> --?--, --?-- >> >> I can easily figure out who the person is by looking at the other family members. It also looks decent in reports. It's a system that's worked well for me. >> >> PS: You can do a "find and replace" to replace the word "Unknown" with "--?--". >> Debbie >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 17:36:28 -0800 >> From: H R Worthington <rworthington@att.net> >> Subject: [FTM-TECH] Unknown Names >> To: "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: >> <1425000988.73630.YahooMailNeo@web185306.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> Lots of discussion on Unknown Names. Each of us needs to determine how WE hand to handle Unknown Surnames and unknown Given Names. >> >> Here is my experience and why I have chosen how I handle these two situations. >> >> For unknown Given Names, I use 5 underscores >> For unknown Surnames, I use 5 underscores >> >> Two reasons. >> >> 1) readers of a report or chart, love to help me out by "filling in the blanks". >> >> 2) using the Web Search workspace, the fields are filled in, in the manner that Ancestry.com's will accept and provide appropriate results. >> >> Those two reasons have worked for me for years. >> >> Look at the list of Surnames, If you don't use that, then other ways may work for you. At a glance, I know how many surnames I am missing. >> >> If I am reading a report, I don't miss that fact that I am missing a name with the other options that have been suggested. I really don't care, but I find the Output from my work a little more readable and someone not familiar with genealogy or the report will quickly understand that I don't know that name. >> >> I don't include some relationship indication with the unknown name because the chart or report will show me that relationship. >> >> When I tried to determine how I wanted to handle Unknown Names or any other change in my database, I check input AND output. >> >> At the top of the People Workspace, Tree View, I have a list of unknown names, Surnames and Given Names. IF I want to work on one of them, I can always select that name and see the relationship. I don't search from that point. But when I see a Shaky Leaf by one of those unknown names, they are really good hints. That hint may not be the Surname, but those HINTS HAVE, in fact, helped me identify the name of that unknown named person. >> >> As I said earlier, the Web Search workspace form is filled in, with the 5 underscores AND does provide valid results. I rarely put any other information into that search form but get results. >> >> So, the Easy to spot people, the readability of charts and reports, the Web Search feature is the reason that I use 5 underscores. >> >> I chose 5 because I didn't want to make it so obvious that I didn't know the name, that it might have a negative impact to the reader, but I want it to be a gentle reminder that I have work to do. >> >> One final "naming" thing. I do NOT use Married names for females. I am consistent in my naming convention. If I don't know that married females birth surname, 5 underscores. >> >> One users opinion. >> >> Russ >> >> ___________________________ >> >> Mailto:rworthington@att.net >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 02:41:18 -0500 >> From: Joan Parker <parker5850@gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Family Archive CDs >> To: Robbie <RobbieRobinson_31@msn.com>, ftm-tech@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: >> <CAGkz8eGGMBBgq6jwEF4HbqEqz0zAfwH76fz1A_C18g2wGfM+eQ@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> >> Hi, >> I have many of them too, but haven't even thought about them until your >> email. Refresh my memory, please. Since they go back to v 4.0 the archives >> will also have to be "old" so can't remember what's on them. Are they >> really of any value today? >> Thanks, >> Joanie >> >> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Robbie via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> >>> I have acquired many Family Archive CDs along with a copy of Family Archive >>> Viewer, Ver. 4.0. >>> >>> I am running Windows 7, 64 bit, 10 GB memory and FTM 2014. >>> >>> I am unable to install Family Archive Viewer on my computer. Any >>> suggestions on how I can access these CDs? >>> >>> >>> G. E. "Robbie" Robinson >>> Meridian, ID >>> >>> ********************************** >>> List information page >>> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> ------------------------------ >> >> >> >> End of FTM-TECH Digest, Vol 9, Issue 36 >> *************************************** >> > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Harold, WHAT doesn't happen for you? Are you installing AS Administrator? Russ ___________________________ Mailto:rworthington@att.net ________________________________ From: Harold & Elaine Brattland via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 2:12 PM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Family Archive CD's Have you been able to get the download to work? Doesn't for me. hab

After your message, I tried the link. I was able to download FAV.EXE. It is 20 mb so it took some time with my slower internet speed but it eventually completed. I then installed it with no problems. One word of caution, after it has downloaded, the progress window sets there for about 30 seconds as though nothing is happening. I left it alone and it eventually began processing. The FTM Archive Viewer was eventually installed. I'm running under Windows 8.1 Pro. BJ On 2/27/2015 12:12 PM, Harold & Elaine Brattland via wrote: > Have you been able to get the download to work? Doesn't for me. hab > On 2/27/2015 09:48, rewolf4 via wrote: >> Most of the information on the CD's has been put online or incorporated >> into Family Search or Ancestry. Despite that, I have the whole set, and >> find them very useful. You can download Family Archive Viewer from >> http://www.genealogy.com/abtffiv.html. This is Version 11 and works with >> Vista, Windows 7 and 8. >> >> Rewolf4 >> >> On 2/27/2015 1:00 AM, ftm-tech-request@rootsweb.com wrote: >>> ********************************** >>> List information page >>> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html >>> >>> Version 2008-2014 >>> http://ftm.custhelp.com/ >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Re: The Great Debate (Judy In Ocala) >>> 2. Re: Resolving Place Names (Drew DUBLER) >>> 3. Re: Searching for blank surnames (Debbie) >>> 4. Unknown Names (H R Worthington) >>> 5. Re: Family Archive CDs (Joan Parker) >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 10:46:17 -0500 >>> From: Judy In Ocala <treewright@gmail.com> >>> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] The Great Debate >>> To: "Timothy N. West" <tim_west@verizon.net>, "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" >>> <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> >>> Message-ID: <CEAE77FF-4B65-4967-803A-A825C85C5A64@gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>> >>> I like that suggestion. I have been wanting that too! I haven't needed to create a bibliography in a while, so I had forgotten about that problem. >>> >>> Judy in Ocala >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 3:20 PM, Timothy N. West via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> I would like to see them add back the ability print a bibliography >>>> containing only those sources requested. Currently it appears one can only >>>> print a bibliography that contains all sources defined within your FTM file. >>>> This makes the bibliography report essentially useless unless one is >>>> creating a report or book for ALL people in your FTM database. >>>> >>>> With FTM 16, I could generate a report about a group of specific people and >>>> attach a bibliography of only those sources relevant to that group of >>>> specific people. I've been unable to figure out how to do that in FTM 2010, >>>> FTM 2012, and now FTM 2014. >>>> >>>> Unfortunately, even within the Book Feature, creating a bibliography >>>> includes all sources within the FTM file regardless of their use within that >>>> book. There is no way to tell the bibliography feature to only produce the >>>> list of sources used for select individuals. We used to be able to do this >>>> in FTM 16 and earlier versions. It disappeared when FTM 2010, 2012, and now >>>> 2014 were released. >>>> >>>> And since I'm wishing for changes with the bibliography, I would like to see >>>> the annotation paragraphs (within the bibliography) indented to make it >>>> easier to see where each bibliographic entry begins and ends. >>>> >>>> FTM 2014 provides a hanging indent for the source and then again with the >>>> annotation. Yes, bibliographic source entries are separated by a white >>>> space line but so are the annotations. Because both the bibliographic >>>> source entry and its respective annotation are formatted exactly the same, >>>> it is not easy to scan the bibliography looking for a specific entry even >>>> when alphabetized. Looking through a 106 page bibliography to find a >>>> specific source, while not impossible, is not as easy as it should be >>>> because the annotations appear to the brain to mess up the alphabetic >>>> sequence. I thought I might be able to use font changes to distinguish but, >>>> alas, FTM does not provide that level of font granularity. FTM2010-2014 do >>>> offer the option to show a dotted line divider between sources but the >>>> dotted line is very faint and thus doesn't really help the reader. Below is >>>> a quick sample output of what I see and what I would like to see. (Note: >>>> The dotted lines are a lot darker here than they appear in the FTM Source >>>> Bibliography report). >>>> >>>> ======Current FTM2014 Sample======= >>>> >>>> Bible of Goldman Smith and Letha Hammock Smith (Texas Centennial Blue Ribbon >>>> Bible; John A Hertel >>>> Company, Chicago, IL; 1948), Debbie Reynolds, 15 Mandy Lane, >>>> Forsyth, GA 31029. Source >>>> Medium: Book >>>> >>>> Lists the grandparents, great-grandparents, and dates of both Goldman Smith >>>> and Letha Hammock. Lists >>>> their children, birth dates, death dates, marriage dates, spouse and >>>> lists many of their >>>> grandchildren. >>>> ................................................................. >>>> Blasius-Baker Funeral Home, Blasius-Baker Funeral Home Memorial Card (9320 >>>> West St., Manassas, >>>> VA), Copy in possession of Timothy N. West. Source Medium: Card >>>> >>>> Gloria Dean Plaugher provided the card because I was unable to attend the >>>> funeral. >>>> ................................................................. >>>> Blevins, Ray and Laccie, Jonathan Blevins Sr. of Virginia and His >>>> Descendants (Overmountain Press, >>>> Johnson City, TN; 1982), Copy held by Mark S. Blevins, P.O. Box >>>> 4491, Chattanooga, TN >>>> 37405-0491. Source Medium: Book >>>> >>>> This book was a special edition (not for the general public), and it is no >>>> longer in print. Ray Blevins is >>>> working on a new edition of this book. >>>> ................................................................. >>>> Boat Capsizes - Harness Youth Drowns - Brother of Victim Saved by Companion >>>> (18289 Alberta Street, >>>> Oneida, TN 37841, The Scott County News, 22 Jul 1976). >>>> ................................................................. >>>> Borden, Duane L. and Jeanette Conner Ritenour, Marriages, Shenandoah County, >>>> Virginia 1850-1882 >>>> (Duane L. Borden, 5995 West Arizona Ave., Denver, CO 80226; 1987), >>>> Fairfax County Public >>>> Library, Fairfax, Fairfax Co, VA, VREF 929.3755 SHEN. Source Medium: >>>> Book >>>> >>>> A compilation of marriages taken from the Shenandoah Co, VA marriage >>>> registers. The author believes >>>> the compilation reaches into approximately 85% of the families >>>> residing in Shenandoah Co during >>>> 9 Jul 1850 through 25 Dec 1881. Some genealogy had been added to the >>>> compilation by the >>>> authors and is usually identified within parentheses below the >>>> marriage. The primary index lists >>>> both grooms and brides. A supplemental index is also included and >>>> identifies names missed in >>>> the primary index. >>>> ................................................................. >>>> ======End current sample======= >>>> >>>> I would prefer the title of the entry to be bolded and the annotation to be >>>> fully indented (not just hanging indented). I think the bibliography would >>>> be better suited to be formatted as follows (unfortunately I can't show >>>> bolded titles within the FTM-TECH list): >>>> >>>> ======Preferred sample======== >>>> >>>> Bible of Goldman Smith and Letha Hammock Smith (Texas Centennial Blue Ribbon >>>> Bible; John A Hertel >>>> Company, Chicago, IL; 1948), Debbie Reynolds, 15 Mandy Lane, >>>> Forsyth, GA 31029. Source >>>> Medium: Book >>>> >>>> Lists the grandparents, great-grandparents, and dates of both >>>> Goldman Smith and Letha Hammock. >>>> Lists their children, birth dates, death dates, marriage dates, >>>> spouse and lists many of their >>>> grandchildren. >>>> >>>> Blasius-Baker Funeral Home, Blasius-Baker Funeral Home Memorial Card (9320 >>>> West St., Manassas, >>>> VA), Copy in possession of Timothy N. West. Source Medium: Card >>>> >>>> Gloria Dean Plaugher provided the card because I was unable to >>>> attend the funeral. >>>> >>>> Blevins, Ray and Laccie, Jonathan Blevins Sr. of Virginia and His >>>> Descendants (Overmountain Press, >>>> Johnson City, TN; 1982), Copy held by Mark S. Blevins, P.O. Box >>>> 4491, Chattanooga, TN >>>> 37405-0491. Source Medium: Book >>>> >>>> This book was a special edition (not for the general public), and it >>>> is no longer in print. Ray >>>> Blevins is working on a new edition of this book. >>>> >>>> Boat Capsizes - Harness Youth Drowns - Brother of Victim Saved by Companion >>>> (18289 Alberta Street, >>>> Oneida, TN 37841, The Scott County News, 22 Jul 1976). >>>> >>>> Borden, Duane L. and Jeanette Conner Ritenour, Marriages, Shenandoah County, >>>> Virginia 1850-1882 >>>> (Duane L. Borden, 5995 West Arizona Ave., Denver, CO 80226; 1987), >>>> Fairfax County Public >>>> Library, Fairfax, Fairfax Co, VA, VREF 929.3755 SHEN. Source Medium: >>>> Book >>>> >>>> A compilation of marriages taken from the Shenandoah Co, VA marriage >>>> registers. The author >>>> believes the compilation reaches into approximately 85% of the >>>> families residing in Shenandoah >>>> Co during 9 Jul 1850 through 25 Dec 1881. Some genealogy had been >>>> added to the compilation >>>> by the authors and is usually identified within parentheses below >>>> the marriage. The primary >>>> index lists both grooms and brides. A supplemental index is also >>>> included and identifies names >>>> missed in the primary index. >>>> >>>> =======End preferred sample======== >>>> >>>> >>>> .tim west. >>>> >>>> Scott County, Tennessee Coordinator for the TNGenWeb Project >>>> http://www.tngenweb.org/scott >>>> >>>> ------------------Original Message------------------ >>>>> From: Judy in Ocala <treewright@gmail.com> >>>>> Subject: [FTM-TECH] FTM 16 v. 2014: The Great Debate >>>>> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 23:47:13 -0500 >>>>> >>>>> We are coming up on 8 years since v. 16 was completely reprogrammed to a >>>> new database structure. In the beginning, we all felt that v. 2008 was >>>> lacking many of the features that we loved in 16. >>>>> Over the years many improvements and enhancements have been made to >>>> succeeding versions and upgrades. As a result, version 2014 is a much more >>>> stable, robust, and versatile program than 2008 was. >>>>> But in spite of the many improvements, there is an bedrock of loyal users >>>> of v. 16. One of the reasons often given for sticking with 16 is the >>>> reports, but there hasn't been much discussion about why the reports in 16 >>>> are better. >>>>> So I'm asking those who are still using v. 16 to share their opinions. And >>>> not just about reports, but if you think there are other ways in which v. 16 >>>> is superior. >>>>> Please give examples, and keep your comments constructive. >>>>> >>>>> Judy in Ocala >>>> ********************************** >>>> List information page >>>> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 2 >>> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 18:08:30 +0000 (UTC) >>> From: Drew DUBLER <drew@drucifer.net> >>> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving Place Names >>> To: Debbie <growingatree@hotmail.com>, "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" >>> <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> >>> Message-ID: >>> <930359453.951713.1424974110669.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >>> >>> I use RESIDENCE for Town, County, State, CountryI use ADDRESS for Street >>> I use POSTAL CODE for Zip CodeI use CENSUS for Wards, Assembly Districts >>> >>> I'm thinking of adding BUILDING NUMBER >>> As I have lots of families living on the same block in New York City >>> ?Drew >>> Cold Spring, Putnam Co., NY >>> O|||||||O >>> Modeling the New York Central in N Scale and Trainz >>> Backyard Birding & Gardening in the New York Hudson Valley >>> Genealogy HERLIHY, GOULDING, GREENE, LALIME & LENT, LYNT, van LENT >>> >>> Homepage: http://drucifer.net/index.html >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 3 >>> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 00:57:35 +0000 (UTC) >>> From: Debbie <growingatree@hotmail.com> >>> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Searching for blank surnames >>> To: "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com>, >>> "oldtrails@gmx.com" <oldtrails@gmx.com> >>> Message-ID: >>> <504090937.348255.1424998655423.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >>> >>> Regarding the posts on unknown names.... If you add the word "Unknown" or things like "husband of John Smith" it will screw up the search results when Ancestry (or family search) is doing searches to identify potential matches to the record (i.e. "tips"). >>> >>> >>> I don't like leaving it blank and use --?-- for any unknown names. This helps with the sorting process. All names that have a first name and no last name will appear at the top of the name list with the following format: >>> >>> --?--, Jane >>> --?--, Dorothy Anna >>> >>> I also use it for missing first names: >>> >>> Richardson, --?-- >>> >>> And in cases where I don't know either name. For example, if a document says "the couple had three children." >>> >>> --?--, --?-- >>> >>> I can easily figure out who the person is by looking at the other family members. It also looks decent in reports. It's a system that's worked well for me. >>> >>> PS: You can do a "find and replace" to replace the word "Unknown" with "--?--". >>> Debbie >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 4 >>> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 17:36:28 -0800 >>> From: H R Worthington <rworthington@att.net> >>> Subject: [FTM-TECH] Unknown Names >>> To: "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> >>> Message-ID: >>> <1425000988.73630.YahooMailNeo@web185306.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>> >>> Lots of discussion on Unknown Names. Each of us needs to determine how WE hand to handle Unknown Surnames and unknown Given Names. >>> >>> Here is my experience and why I have chosen how I handle these two situations. >>> >>> For unknown Given Names, I use 5 underscores >>> For unknown Surnames, I use 5 underscores >>> >>> Two reasons. >>> >>> 1) readers of a report or chart, love to help me out by "filling in the blanks". >>> >>> 2) using the Web Search workspace, the fields are filled in, in the manner that Ancestry.com's will accept and provide appropriate results. >>> >>> Those two reasons have worked for me for years. >>> >>> Look at the list of Surnames, If you don't use that, then other ways may work for you. At a glance, I know how many surnames I am missing. >>> >>> If I am reading a report, I don't miss that fact that I am missing a name with the other options that have been suggested. I really don't care, but I find the Output from my work a little more readable and someone not familiar with genealogy or the report will quickly understand that I don't know that name. >>> >>> I don't include some relationship indication with the unknown name because the chart or report will show me that relationship. >>> >>> When I tried to determine how I wanted to handle Unknown Names or any other change in my database, I check input AND output. >>> >>> At the top of the People Workspace, Tree View, I have a list of unknown names, Surnames and Given Names. IF I want to work on one of them, I can always select that name and see the relationship. I don't search from that point. But when I see a Shaky Leaf by one of those unknown names, they are really good hints. That hint may not be the Surname, but those HINTS HAVE, in fact, helped me identify the name of that unknown named person. >>> >>> As I said earlier, the Web Search workspace form is filled in, with the 5 underscores AND does provide valid results. I rarely put any other information into that search form but get results. >>> >>> So, the Easy to spot people, the readability of charts and reports, the Web Search feature is the reason that I use 5 underscores. >>> >>> I chose 5 because I didn't want to make it so obvious that I didn't know the name, that it might have a negative impact to the reader, but I want it to be a gentle reminder that I have work to do. >>> >>> One final "naming" thing. I do NOT use Married names for females. I am consistent in my naming convention. If I don't know that married females birth surname, 5 underscores. >>> >>> One users opinion. >>> >>> Russ >>> >>> ___________________________ >>> >>> Mailto:rworthington@att.net >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 5 >>> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 02:41:18 -0500 >>> From: Joan Parker <parker5850@gmail.com> >>> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Family Archive CDs >>> To: Robbie <RobbieRobinson_31@msn.com>, ftm-tech@rootsweb.com >>> Message-ID: >>> <CAGkz8eGGMBBgq6jwEF4HbqEqz0zAfwH76fz1A_C18g2wGfM+eQ@mail.gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >>> >>> Hi, >>> I have many of them too, but haven't even thought about them until your >>> email. Refresh my memory, please. Since they go back to v 4.0 the archives >>> will also have to be "old" so can't remember what's on them. Are they >>> really of any value today? >>> Thanks, >>> Joanie >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Robbie via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I have acquired many Family Archive CDs along with a copy of Family Archive >>>> Viewer, Ver. 4.0. >>>> >>>> I am running Windows 7, 64 bit, 10 GB memory and FTM 2014. >>>> >>>> I am unable to install Family Archive Viewer on my computer. Any >>>> suggestions on how I can access these CDs? >>>> >>>> >>>> G. E. 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