Jay/BJ Just tried creating a new test file. When I entered the birth location for my father, the Fast Field list showed El Campo, Wharton, Texas, USA. When I selected that and hit enter, the USA disappeared from the place listing in the Birth Fact. I then tried with my mother. Tahoka popped up Tahoka, Lynn, Texas, USA in the Fast Field list. Selecting that and hitting Enter put Tahoka, Lynn, Texas in the place field for Birth. The Places tab now lists two locations, both resolved, and neither displaying the USA Having the USA show up in the Fast Field list makes sense, since there are lots of places around the world with the same town name. You need to be able to select the right one, including country. Once selected, the USA is just not displayed, but is still kept as the right country location. John & Kathleen -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of BJ Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 2:22 AM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] PNA frustration Send it if you don't mind. BJ On 12/3/2011 6:24 PM, Thompson Jay wrote: > BJ, > > New Tree With Fast Fact on, USA off > Entered Me. > Born in Cass County, Indiana. (Resolved Immediately- No USA) Went to > Places- only place was Cass County, Indiana resolved Entered my > father. > Born in Ca (Fast Fact suggested Cass County, Indiana, USA) Accepted ( > Cass County, Indiana, USA was entered) Went to Places (now two > entries- Cass County, Indiana resolved and Cass County, Indiana, USA > unresolved) > > I can send you this little file if you want. > > Jay Thompson > just an old genealogy nut > too tough to crack. > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: BJ<bhamilton3@cox.net> > To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sat, December 3, 2011 8:38:02 PM > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] PNA frustration > > Jay, > > Can you try this using a new data base. Create a New data base with > one persons. Enter a fact and input a place. Places from the PNA > should begin being displayed after you type the first character. > Enter a non-resolved place name. Now resolve the place name. Enter a > new fact using the same place name, and describe your observations. > > BJ > > On 12/3/2011 4:19 PM, Thompson Jay wrote: >> I agree, John, in fact I have that place associated with almost 6000 people. >> All >> instances have been resolved to one place name. But if the USA is >> supposed to be turned off why does the Fast Fact enter it when I opt >> for the suggestion? >> Alternately, why doesn't the Fast Fact show the name without the USA >> on the end? >> >> Jay Thompson >> just an old genealogy nut >> too tough to crack. >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: John Boyd<johnhboyd@earthlink.net> >> To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Sat, December 3, 2011 7:05:20 PM >> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] PNA frustration >> >> Fast Facts shows place names that are currently used someplace in your file. >> It doesn't care if the place names meet the requirements for PNA or not. >> So, if a place name shows up in the suggested list, including the >> USA, that means that you still have that name in your file someplace >> including the USA. >> >> John& Kathleen >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On Behalf Of Thompson Jay >> Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 4:22 PM >> To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] PNA frustration >> >> Russ, >> See comments interspersed. BTW I am using FTM2012, build 388. >> >> Maybe I'm messing something up. >> If anyone would like to try and duplicate this: >> 1. Turn off USA and turn on Fast Facts 2. Enter a new person name. >> 3. Enter enough of a known resolved place name that the Fast Fact kicks in. >> Is the USA on the end? >> 4. select the Fast Fact offering. >> Is the USA on the end? >> 5. Go to "Places". >> Is the place name now listed twice? One resolved without the USA and >> one unresolved with the USA? >> >> Jay Thompson >> just an old genealogy nut >> too tough to crack. >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: H R Worthington<rworthington@att.net> >> To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Sat, December 3, 2011 3:43:46 PM >> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] PNA frustration >> >> Jay, >> >> First, you can turn USA on or Off, in the Tools, Option menu. True, >> it is off >> >> For data Entry, I keep it turned ON, then turn it OFF when working on >> Charts and >> >> Reports.This keeps my data consistent and I can control the output. >> >> When you start to enter data, like "Cas" the Fast Fact will kick in >> and offer what you have used before. Currently, all Cass County, >> Indiana, USAs have been resolved to Cass County, Indiana (USA turned >> off), >> >> and Cass County, Indiana is the only entry in the PNA list. So, Cass >> County, Indiana, USA is likely to show up. >> But why, when I have the USA turned offdoes the program enter "Cass >> County, Indiana, USA" AND call it unresolved? >> >> Might the problem be that the PNA authority expects to see Cass, >> Indiana, USA as >> >> the Resolved Place Name.Then that is a program problem that needs to >> be addressed if it is being advertised >> >> that the program will recognize "County, Township, Borough, etc. >> >> You may have some Facts with the Place Name that you may not want >> still in use by someone. Have you looked at your Place Name >> Report?Yes, I am doing that now. >> But I don't want to have to spend 2 or 3 weeks every few months going >> thru it replacing the unresolved >> >> (with the USA on the end) with the resolved (without the USA). The >> correct resolved place name is already in the list. >> The unresolved place name is not in the list (until the Fast Fact >> offers it and I choose it) >> >> Russ >> >> ___________________________ >> >> >> Mailto:rworthington@att.net >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Thompson Jay<jaydarlene@sbcglobal.net> >> To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Sat, December 3, 2011 1:08:39 AM >> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] PNA frustration >> >> Thank you, BJ, >> As usual, very concise. Here is the test that I just did. Cass >> County, Indiana(no "USA) is a resolved place name (just did it last >> night). I go to a new person and start to type in the birthplace. >> C-a-s. The program suggests Cass >> >> >> County, Indiana, USA. It does not suggest Cass County, Indiana. If I >> accept Cass >> >> >> County, Indiana, USA (hoping the USA will not show), I get Cass >> County, Indiana, >> >> >> USA. If I then go to Places, I have my resolved Cass County, Indiana >> AND a new Cass County, Indiana, USA that is unresolved. 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