I think many of the complaints stem from users not understanding the function of the sync process. They are expecting the trees to be duplicates of each other. As for differences in media items, the AMT does not support relationship images. What it does is - upload the media item and links it to the two individuals. The other area has to do with the images obtained from Ancestry.com data bases. Examples of these images are Census images, Texas Death/Birth/Marriage Index images, World War I and II Draft Registration Card images and some others. These images should not be uploaded to the ATM. They remain in the PC file but not in the AMT. The reason - the AMT links directly to the records and their images. So it is not necessary for a copy to be in the Media Gallery. I have found some problems with this in that some images are uploaded while others are not. No real reason for the different way they are handled. Another common complaint is the fact that the links are between one tree and one computer. If that link ever breaks, there is no way to repair it. The user must start all over. BJ On 11/1/2011 5:09 PM, Ali wrote: > BJ > Yes, it does help, it helps a great deal. I suppose what confuses me is the complaints of problems once the trees are sync'd. I've gone over and over my tree on my PC in order to make the transition to AMT as flawless as it can be. > Ali > ----- Original Message ----- > From: BJ > To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 7:45 PM > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Facts - Family Work Space > > > The facts you elect to display in the right panel on the Family work > area has nothing to do with the facts which are synced. The facts > displayed in the right panel is just a subset of all of your facts. To > see what facts will be synced you need to view the facts you have in the > Person work area. Preferred facts as well as alternate facts will be > synced. They tend to be easily viewed in FTM but are rather obscure in > the AMT. > > The thing to remember about the sync feature is the term "sync". This > does not mean the two trees are identical and a perfect substitution for > the other. They are different. The data base structures are different > and there are differences between the information in the two trees. > Examples are. The PC file has Research notes, tasks, reports and charts > - none of these are in the AMT. In the PC file you have a > "Relationship" record which allows you to link pictures and sources. > The AMT does not support these links to pictures and sources. It simply > points to children. > > "Sync" simply means Keeping the data or information the same in both trees. > > For an individual, all facts listed for that individual on the Person > Facts work area are found in the AMT. > > Hope that helps. > > BJ > > On 11/1/2011 3:28 PM, Ali wrote: > > Tom Herson's problem with Preferred facts brings to mind a problem that I foresee happening when I post my tree to Ancestry. > > > > What I'm referring to are facts in the panel on the right side of the Family work space. I have added 'Witnesses, Divorce, E'mail, and Descriptions for Birth, Baptism, Witness/Godparents, Death, Burial. > > > > > From what I have read so far, these may not sync neatly. I'm quite satisfied how I have set up that panel and have no wish to change it but when and if I post to Ancestry I will run into problems. > > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Online Support for Family Tree Maker > Version 16 and earlier > http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ > > Version 2008 - 2011 > http://ftm.custhelp.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1834 / Virus Database: 2092/4589 - Release Date: 11/01/11 > >

More questions BJ if you please. -What if not all of my media items came from Ancestry. E.g.: Find My Past; Ellis Island; GRO; and so on, will they be uploaded to the AMT? -Preferred facts. Each time I accept data from a green leaf alert another preferred fact is planted on my Person work space in the Individual & Shared Facts area. I can end up with 6-8 preferred facts for Person ID or DOB or DOD. I am never sure whether or not I should remove these excess preferred facts. It seems redundant to have these repetitive facts moved over to the AMT. Yes, I am a neat freak but I can't work any other way. Ali ----- Original Message ----- From: BJ To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 8:30 PM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Facts - Family Work Space I think many of the complaints stem from users not understanding the function of the sync process. They are expecting the trees to be duplicates of each other. As for differences in media items, the AMT does not support relationship images. What it does is - upload the media item and links it to the two individuals. The other area has to do with the images obtained from Ancestry.com data bases. Examples of these images are Census images, Texas Death/Birth/Marriage Index images, World War I and II Draft Registration Card images and some others. These images should not be uploaded to the ATM. They remain in the PC file but not in the AMT. The reason - the AMT links directly to the records and their images. So it is not necessary for a copy to be in the Media Gallery. I have found some problems with this in that some images are uploaded while others are not. No real reason for the different way they are handled. Another common complaint is the fact that the links are between one tree and one computer. If that link ever breaks, there is no way to repair it. The user must start all over. BJ On 11/1/2011 5:09 PM, Ali wrote: > BJ > Yes, it does help, it helps a great deal. I suppose what confuses me is the complaints of problems once the trees are sync'd. I've gone over and over my tree on my PC in order to make the transition to AMT as flawless as it can be. > Ali > ----- Original Message ----- > From: BJ > To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 7:45 PM > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Facts - Family Work Space > > > The facts you elect to display in the right panel on the Family work > area has nothing to do with the facts which are synced. The facts > displayed in the right panel is just a subset of all of your facts. To > see what facts will be synced you need to view the facts you have in the > Person work area. Preferred facts as well as alternate facts will be > synced. They tend to be easily viewed in FTM but are rather obscure in > the AMT. > > The thing to remember about the sync feature is the term "sync". This > does not mean the two trees are identical and a perfect substitution for > the other. They are different. The data base structures are different > and there are differences between the information in the two trees. > Examples are. The PC file has Research notes, tasks, reports and charts > - none of these are in the AMT. In the PC file you have a > "Relationship" record which allows you to link pictures and sources. > The AMT does not support these links to pictures and sources. It simply > points to children. > > "Sync" simply means Keeping the data or information the same in both trees. > > For an individual, all facts listed for that individual on the Person > Facts work area are found in the AMT. > > Hope that helps. > > BJ > > On 11/1/2011 3:28 PM, Ali wrote: > > Tom Herson's problem with Preferred facts brings to mind a problem that I foresee happening when I post my tree to Ancestry. > > > > What I'm referring to are facts in the panel on the right side of the Family work space. I have added 'Witnesses, Divorce, E'mail, and Descriptions for Birth, Baptism, Witness/Godparents, Death, Burial. > > > > > From what I have read so far, these may not sync neatly. I'm quite satisfied how I have set up that panel and have no wish to change it but when and if I post to Ancestry I will run into problems. > > > **********************************

See comments below. BJ On 11/4/2011 6:17 PM, Ali wrote: > More questions BJ if you please. > > -What if not all of my media items came from Ancestry. E.g.: Find My Past; Ellis Island; GRO; and so on, will they be uploaded to the AMT? Yes, if the media item is from another source, it will be uploaded to the AMT. One thing you may want to do is to enter a Caption for every media item. When a media item has a Caption, the sync routine uploads the media item and uses the Caption as the Picture Name which is displayed below the media item thumbnail in the Media Gallery. It makes a rather easy way to cross check the media items in the Media Gallery against those in the Media Collection work area. Unfortunately, the AMT does not sort the media items in the Media Gallery based upon the Picture Name. While the order appears to be random, I'm pretty sure they are arranged based upon the date and time they were added to the PC file. Rosemary said the "All media will be uploaded, no matter where it came from." I'm whether she is talking about every single media item or just those that are manually entered into the Media work area. According to the description of which media items are uploaded, images from the Ancestry.com data bases (census images and others) are not suppose to the uploaded to the Media Gallery because those facts are linked directly to the images in the Ancestry.com data bases. Unfortunately this isn't working properly. I have found some images from the 1900, 1910 and 1920 census records are uploaded but they are not linked to anything in the AMT. The 1930 Census images are not uploaded. I don't know whether or when this may get fixed. > -Preferred facts. Each time I accept data from a green leaf alert another preferred fact is planted on my Person work space in the Individual& Shared Facts area. I can end up with 6-8 preferred facts for Person ID or DOB or DOD. I am never sure whether or not I should remove these excess preferred facts. It seems redundant to have these repetitive facts moved over to the AMT. For any fact label; e.g. Birth, Death, Census; only one of the facts for a particular individual can be marked as Preferred. The others are shown but they are alternate facts. All preferred and Alternate facts are uploaded to the AMT. If you have multiple facts and they all have the same information, I would link the source-citations from the duplicate facts to the preferred fact and then delete the duplicate facts. Now if the information is different then you may want to keep the alternate facts. On the other hand, I may have one source that gives me the year of birth and another source that gives me the month and a third that gives me the Place. I tend to enter all of that information into a single fact and link all 3 source-citations to that one fact. Others disagree with this approach but I prefer having one fact as complete as possible.

Are these media files from other sources linked within FTM or was there a copy saved to your dive and that copy is linked within FTM? If they are linked to the external source, how was this done, as I have not seen any of way doing it? Thanks, David C Abernathy Email disclaimers ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message represents the official view of the voices in my head. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.SchmeckAbernathy.com == All outgoing and incoming mail is scanned by F-Prot Antivirus  == -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of BJ Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 9:22 PM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Facts - Family Work Space See comments below. BJ On 11/4/2011 6:17 PM, Ali wrote: > More questions BJ if you please. > > -What if not all of my media items came from Ancestry. E.g.: Find My Past; Ellis Island; GRO; and so on, will they be uploaded to the AMT? Yes, if the media item is from another source, it will be uploaded to the AMT. One thing you may want to do is to enter a Caption for every media item. When a media item has a Caption, the sync routine uploads the media item and uses the Caption as the Picture Name which is displayed below the media item thumbnail in the Media Gallery. It makes a rather easy way to cross check the media items in the Media Gallery against those in the Media Collection work area. Unfortunately, the AMT does not sort the media items in the Media Gallery based upon the Picture Name. While the order appears to be random, I'm pretty sure they are arranged based upon the date and time they were added to the PC file. Rosemary said the "All media will be uploaded, no matter where it came from." I'm whether she is talking about every single media item or just those that are manually entered into the Media work area. According to the description of which media items are uploaded, images from the Ancestry.com data bases (census images and others) are not suppose to the uploaded to the Media Gallery because those facts are linked directly to the images in the Ancestry.com data bases. Unfortunately this isn't working properly. I have found some images from the 1900, 1910 and 1920 census records are uploaded but they are not linked to anything in the AMT. The 1930 Census images are not uploaded. I don't know whether or when this may get fixed. > -Preferred facts. Each time I accept data from a green leaf alert another preferred fact is planted on my Person work space in the Individual& Shared Facts area. I can end up with 6-8 preferred facts for Person ID or DOB or DOD. I am never sure whether or not I should remove these excess preferred facts. It seems redundant to have these repetitive facts moved over to the AMT. For any fact label; e.g. Birth, Death, Census; only one of the facts for a particular individual can be marked as Preferred. The others are shown but they are alternate facts. All preferred and Alternate facts are uploaded to the AMT. If you have multiple facts and they all have the same information, I would link the source-citations from the duplicate facts to the preferred fact and then delete the duplicate facts. Now if the information is different then you may want to keep the alternate facts. On the other hand, I may have one source that gives me the year of birth and another source that gives me the month and a third that gives me the Place. I tend to enter all of that information into a single fact and link all 3 source-citations to that one fact. Others disagree with this approach but I prefer having one fact as complete as possible. ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

BJ, You're right about the census images. I neglected to mention that I don't use web merge for my census data (English) and census substitutes (Australian Electoral Rolls) because I just don't like the way they are handled. This is strictly a personal preference. Rosemary On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 11:21 PM, BJ <bhamilton3@cox.net> wrote: > See comments below. > > BJ > > On 11/4/2011 6:17 PM, Ali wrote: > > More questions BJ if you please. > > > > -What if not all of my media items came from Ancestry. E.g.: Find My > Past; Ellis Island; GRO; and so on, will they be uploaded to the AMT? > Yes, if the media item is from another source, it will be uploaded to > the AMT. One thing you may want to do is to enter a Caption for every > media item. When a media item has a Caption, the sync routine uploads > the media item and uses the Caption as the Picture Name which is > displayed below the media item thumbnail in the Media Gallery. It makes > a rather easy way to cross check the media items in the Media Gallery > against those in the Media Collection work area. Unfortunately, the AMT > does not sort the media items in the Media Gallery based upon the > Picture Name. While the order appears to be random, I'm pretty sure > they are arranged based upon the date and time they were added to the PC > file. > > Rosemary said the "All media will be uploaded, no matter where it came > from." I'm whether she is talking about every single media item or just > those that are manually entered into the Media work area. According to > the description of which media items are uploaded, images from the > Ancestry.com data bases (census images and others) are not suppose to > the uploaded to the Media Gallery because those facts are linked > directly to the images in the Ancestry.com data bases. Unfortunately > this isn't working properly. I have found some images from the 1900, > 1910 and 1920 census records are uploaded but they are not linked to > anything in the AMT. The 1930 Census images are not uploaded. I don't > know whether or when this may get fixed. > > -Preferred facts. Each time I accept data from a green leaf alert > another preferred fact is planted on my Person work space in the > Individual& Shared Facts area. I can end up with 6-8 preferred facts for > Person ID or DOB or DOD. I am never sure whether or not I should remove > these excess preferred facts. It seems redundant to have these repetitive > facts moved over to the AMT. > For any fact label; e.g. Birth, Death, Census; only one of the facts for > a particular individual can be marked as Preferred. The others are > shown but they are alternate facts. All preferred and Alternate facts > are uploaded to the AMT. > > If you have multiple facts and they all have the same information, I > would link the source-citations from the duplicate facts to the > preferred fact and then delete the duplicate facts. Now if the > information is different then you may want to keep the alternate facts. > On the other hand, I may have one source that gives me the year of birth > and another source that gives me the month and a third that gives me the > Place. I tend to enter all of that information into a single fact and > link all 3 source-citations to that one fact. Others disagree with this > approach but I prefer having one fact as complete as possible. > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Online Support for Family Tree Maker > Version 16 and earlier > http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ > > Version 2008 - 2011 > http://ftm.custhelp.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I can answer the first question Ali. All media will be uploaded, no matter where it came from. I had made some facts private and the media attached to those facts was uploaded even though I didn't want that to happen. For myself, I want to be able to mark a media item as private so that it doesn't get uploaded no matter whether it is attached to a person, a fact, a citation a source or anything else. Rosemary On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 8:17 PM, Ali <avws2601@sympatico.ca> wrote: > More questions BJ if you please. > > -What if not all of my media items came from Ancestry. E.g.: Find My > Past; Ellis Island; GRO; and so on, will they be uploaded to the AMT? > > -Preferred facts. Each time I accept data from a green leaf alert another > preferred fact is planted on my Person work space in the Individual & > Shared Facts area. I can end up with 6-8 preferred facts for Person ID or > DOB or DOD. I am never sure whether or not I should remove these excess > preferred facts. It seems redundant to have these repetitive facts moved > over to the AMT. > > Yes, I am a neat freak but I can't work any other way. > Ali > ----- Original Message ----- > From: BJ > To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 8:30 PM > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Facts - Family Work Space > > > I think many of the complaints stem from users not understanding the > function of the sync process. They are expecting the trees to be > duplicates of each other. As for differences in media items, the AMT > does not support relationship images. What it does is - upload the > media item and links it to the two individuals. The other area has to > do with the images obtained from Ancestry.com data bases. Examples of > these images are Census images, Texas Death/Birth/Marriage Index images, > World War I and II Draft Registration Card images and some others. > These images should not be uploaded to the ATM. They remain in the PC > file but not in the AMT. The reason - the AMT links directly to the > records and their images. So it is not necessary for a copy to be in > the Media Gallery. I have found some problems with this in that some > images are uploaded while others are not. No real reason for the > different way they are handled. > > Another common complaint is the fact that the links are between one tree > and one computer. If that link ever breaks, there is no way to repair > it. The user must start all over. > > BJ > > On 11/1/2011 5:09 PM, Ali wrote: > > BJ > > Yes, it does help, it helps a great deal. I suppose what confuses me > is the complaints of problems once the trees are sync'd. I've gone over > and over my tree on my PC in order to make the transition to AMT as > flawless as it can be. > > Ali > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: BJ > > To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 7:45 PM > > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Facts - Family Work Space > > > > > > The facts you elect to display in the right panel on the Family work > > area has nothing to do with the facts which are synced. The facts > > displayed in the right panel is just a subset of all of your facts. > To > > see what facts will be synced you need to view the facts you have in > the > > Person work area. Preferred facts as well as alternate facts will be > > synced. They tend to be easily viewed in FTM but are rather obscure > in > > the AMT. > > > > The thing to remember about the sync feature is the term "sync". > This > > does not mean the two trees are identical and a perfect substitution > for > > the other. They are different. The data base structures are > different > > and there are differences between the information in the two trees. > > Examples are. The PC file has Research notes, tasks, reports and > charts > > - none of these are in the AMT. In the PC file you have a > > "Relationship" record which allows you to link pictures and sources. > > The AMT does not support these links to pictures and sources. It > simply > > points to children. > > > > "Sync" simply means Keeping the data or information the same in both > trees. > > > > For an individual, all facts listed for that individual on the Person > > Facts work area are found in the AMT. > > > > Hope that helps. > > > > BJ > > > > On 11/1/2011 3:28 PM, Ali wrote: > > > Tom Herson's problem with Preferred facts brings to mind a > problem that I foresee happening when I post my tree to Ancestry. > > > > > > What I'm referring to are facts in the panel on the right side of > the Family work space. I have added 'Witnesses, Divorce, E'mail, and > Descriptions for Birth, Baptism, Witness/Godparents, Death, Burial. > > > > > > > From what I have read so far, these may not sync neatly. I'm > quite satisfied how I have set up that panel and have no wish to change it > but when and if I post to Ancestry I will run into problems. > > > > > ********************************** > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Online Support for Family Tree Maker > Version 16 and earlier > http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ > > Version 2008 - 2011 > http://ftm.custhelp.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >