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    1. Re: [FTM-TECH] Synching tree error
    2. BJ
    3. I'm sorry but I'm not experiencing this. I admit that most of my Social Security Death Indexes source-citations are from Ancestry.com BUT I change the name of the Source title from Social Security Death Index to SSDI. I also modify the Source record to point to the Social Security Administration as the publisher, etc. Again I tailor the Citation Detail and Citation Text to my own specifications. Finally I do not use templates. I just compared my source-citations in my PC file to the synced online tree. My PC file source-citations are the same as they have always been. The use my Source Title, Source Information, Citation Detail and Citation Text. So my file has not changed. I also reviewed the Social Security source in the online tree. Since the sources are in the Ancestry.com data base, the facts are linked to those online data base records. Consequently, the Social Security Death Index source does not contain my customized Citation details. When I merge SSDI information from the web, I do not like the way the Web Merge saves the information. It normally generates a Social Security Number and a Social Security Issued facts neither of which have the date the Social Security number is issued. So I routinely, use a single Social Security Number fact which has the Date the number is issued, the Place contains the State where the number was issued and the number in the Description. I then delete the Social Security issued fact. I checked my fact in the Online tree and it contains the information as I have entered it. Now as I understand your comment, you say you have entered Source citations from a third party data base and not from the Ancestry.com Social Security Death Index data base. And that the online tree does not have these third party source-citations but rather is using the Ancestry.com data base records???? As Linda suggested, please examine the Social Security Death Index facts and sources on your PC file. Have they changed or are they still as you originally input them? TEMPLATES: I might mention how FTM 2012 Sync handles templates. You enter the source using a Template which normally has a specific Source name and a specified format to the information input into the Citation Detail and Citation Text. This information is then used to format the Reference Note. The online trees do not support Templates, so you are not able to select a template use it to format the information. The online trees also do not provide a field equivalent to the Reference Note so there is nothing to compare with your PC file. HOWEVER; if you use Templates in your PC file, the information entered for the Source, Citation Detail and Citation Text are transferred exactly to the Online Tree. To change or modify this information, you really need to make the changes in your PC file. The changes will then be synced exactly to the online tree. It is possible to modify the information in the Online Tree. Those changes will be download synced to your PC file but not as a template. They warn you that the template information is uploaded to the Online Tree but advise you to make changes to the template in the PC file. BJ On 10/17/2011 1:26 PM, Jeanne Stanis wrote: > 2012! Just checked with a tree that I had synched the other day. Well, it is a disaster for me. My sources have been rearranged to the Ancestry.com standard - not the one that I was "free" to do myself. As a result, all of my entries of "Social Security Death Index" just plain, no stuff from Ancestry on it - have been changed to Ancestry's own entry (many lines long.) This source is entered under a person's birth, death and social security number in my files - three entries. Ancestry removed two of the three, leaving many of my death and social security numbers blank - no source. > Many of the other sources have also been changed by Ancestry. I am afraid to look at places. >

    10/17/2011 12:50:31
    1. Re: [FTM-TECH] Synching tree error
    2. Jeanne Stanis
    3. In regard to the SSDI, there is no third party - unless it is me.  I don't like the way Ancestry.com merges its info with my file, so I delete their entry and substitute "Social Security Death Index."  I un-synched three files last night.  These are files that have been on Ancestry for over a year, with the sources remaining as I entered them in FTM for all that time.  This morning when I looked at the tree on Ancestry, there are eight sources for a birth, for example, and no sources for the death or the social security number.  On the FTM previously linked to Ancestry, birth and death sources are also gone.  I use SSDI for sources for birth, death and SS#.  That's one source for three facts.  I can't see why that's a problem. Jeanne ________________________________ From: BJ <bhamilton3@cox.net> To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 8:50 PM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Synching tree error I'm sorry but I'm not experiencing this.  I admit that most of my Social Security Death Indexes source-citations are from Ancestry.com BUT I change the name of the Source title from Social Security Death Index to SSDI.  I also modify the Source record to point to the Social Security Administration as the publisher, etc.  Again I tailor the Citation Detail and Citation Text to my own specifications.  Finally I do not use templates. I just compared my source-citations in my PC file to the synced online tree.  My PC file source-citations are the same as they have always been.  The use my Source Title, Source Information, Citation Detail and Citation Text.  So my file has not changed. I also reviewed the Social Security source in the online tree.  Since the sources are in the Ancestry.com data base, the facts are linked to those online data base records.  Consequently, the Social Security Death Index source does not contain my customized Citation details. When I merge SSDI information from the web, I do not like the way the Web Merge saves the information.  It normally generates a Social Security Number and a Social Security Issued facts neither of which have the date the Social Security number is issued.  So I routinely, use a single Social Security Number fact which has the Date the number is issued, the Place contains the State where the number was issued and the number in the Description.  I then delete the Social Security issued fact.  I checked my fact in the Online tree and it contains the information as I have entered it. Now as I understand your comment, you say you have entered Source citations from a third party data base and not from the Ancestry.com Social Security Death Index data base.  And that the online tree does not have these third party source-citations but rather is using the Ancestry.com data base records????  As Linda suggested, please examine the Social Security Death Index facts and sources on your PC file.  Have they changed or are they still as you originally input them? TEMPLATES: I might mention how FTM 2012 Sync handles templates.  You enter the source using a Template which normally has a specific Source name and a specified format to the information input into the Citation Detail and Citation Text.  This information is then used to format the Reference Note.    The online trees do not support Templates, so you are not able to select a template use it to format the information.  The online trees also do not provide a field equivalent to the Reference Note so there is nothing to compare with your PC file.  HOWEVER; if you use Templates in your PC file, the information entered for the Source, Citation Detail and Citation Text are transferred exactly to the Online Tree.  To change or modify this information, you really need to make the changes in your PC file.  The changes will then be synced exactly to the online tree. It is possible to modify the information in the Online Tree. Those changes will be download synced to your PC file but not as a template.  They warn you that the template information is uploaded to the Online Tree but advise you to make changes to the template in the PC file. BJ On 10/17/2011 1:26 PM, Jeanne Stanis wrote: > 2012!  Just checked with a tree that I had synched the other day.  Well, it is a disaster for me.  My sources have been rearranged to the Ancestry.com standard - not the one that I was "free" to do myself.  As a result, all of my entries of "Social Security Death Index" just plain, no stuff from Ancestry on it - have been changed to Ancestry's own entry (many lines long.)  This source is entered under a person's birth, death and social security number in my files - three entries.  Ancestry removed two of the three, leaving many of my death and social security numbers blank - no source. > Many of the other sources have also been changed by Ancestry.  I am afraid to look at places. > ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    10/18/2011 02:41:33