A way of sorting pictures by person and by date can be accomplished as follows: Caption each image with LastName MI FirstName Year Month The rest of the caption This causes the media to be sorted so that images are easier to find and sorts them by year and month of the image. Make sure that your format stays consistent. I would prefer a feature to be added for this to happen automatically based on person name and date of media. If you agree send in your enhancement request. Tom -----Original Message----- From: Linda H Gutierrez Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 2:19 PM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Can't Rearrange Pictures in 2012 The only way I have ever been able to rearrange media in FTM was by renaming the media item or adding captions and sorting by them. Linda in Costa Rica Monroe County, New York Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys Monroe County, New York History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys -----Original Message----- From: Caroline Gurney Sent: Thursday, 20 October, 2011 12:48 PM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Can't Rearrange Pictures in 2012 This change to the way things worked in 2011 is really annoying. Definitely a retrograde step. I don't see why syncing media with Ancestry should affect the ability to sort the display of media in FTM itself. Caroline Gurney http://www.carosfamily.com http://cmgurney.blogspot.com ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Tom, I already use a consistent formula to name my images: <Last Name, First Name, Year, Event> but that doesn't necessarily mean they sort how I want them to sort. For example, each census image is named for the head of household. A person may appear in several different households in the course of a lifetime and the alphabetical order of the heads of household may not be the same as the chronological order of the censuses. We shouldn't have to start fiddling around with file names or captions to sort media when we were able to sort them easily by dragging and dropping in FTM 2010 and FTM 2011. I have far too many media to even contemplate renaming / recaptioning. In any case, some media, such as censuses, are attached to several people and renaming which works for one person will not necessarily work for another. Rather than submit an enhancement request, I would urge people to submit a bug report that this feature, which worked in the two previous versions of the program, has now been broken. Caroline Gurney http://www.carosfamily.com http://cmgurney.blogspot.com On 20 October 2011 20:27, Tom Duescher <tduescher@theglobalnet.net> wrote: > A way of sorting pictures by person and by date can be accomplished as > follows: > > Caption each image with     LastName MI FirstName Year Month The rest of the > caption > > This causes the media to be sorted so that images are easier to find and > sorts them by year and month of the image.  Make sure that your format stays > consistent.   I would prefer a feature to be added for this to happen > automatically based on person name and date of media.  If you agree send in > your enhancement request. > > Tom

Caroline, I think I'm in the same place as you - People workspace > Person tab > Bottom Panel > Media tab. and I can move mine around. Click on one, then use the little arrows on the tool bar right above them to move them. Interesting though- I can grab one and when I start to move it, it even shows a "Move arrow" but after I move it and "let go" it jumps back to where it was originally. Courtney sitnah@cox.net -------------------------------------------------- From: "Caroline Gurney" <caroline.gurney@gmail.com> > Tom, > > I already use a consistent formula to name my images: <Last Name, > First Name, Year, Event> but that doesn't necessarily mean they sort > how I want them to sort. For example, each census image is named for > the head of household. A person may appear in several different > households in the course of a lifetime and the alphabetical order of > the heads of household may not be the same as the chronological order > of the censuses. > > We shouldn't have to start fiddling around with file names or captions > to sort media when we were able to sort them easily by dragging and > dropping in FTM 2010 and FTM 2011. I have far too many media to even > contemplate renaming / recaptioning. In any case, some media, such as > censuses, are attached to several people and renaming which works for > one person will not necessarily work for another. > > Rather than submit an enhancement request, I would urge people to > submit a bug report that this feature, which worked in the two > previous versions of the program, has now been broken. > > Caroline Gurney

Courtney, I observed the same thing also although since I do not really add media to my file, had not noticed the arrows. In FTM 2011, dragging can be done as well as using the arrows. But in FTM 2012, not only does it not allow you to drag the photos, sometimes I would get messages of "This person is already linked to the media item" when attempting to drag the media. I think dragging the media is easier than using the arrows if there are many media items, but at least the arrows are available to achieve the same purpose. Linda in Costa Rica Monroe County, New York Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys Monroe County, New York History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys -----Original Message----- From: Courtney Sent: Friday, 21 October, 2011 5:17 AM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Can't Rearrange Pictures in 2012 Caroline, I think I'm in the same place as you - People workspace > Person tab > Bottom Panel > Media tab. and I can move mine around. Click on one, then use the little arrows on the tool bar right above them to move them. Interesting though- I can grab one and when I start to move it, it even shows a "Move arrow" but after I move it and "let go" it jumps back to where it was originally. Courtney sitnah@cox.net -------------------------------------------------- From: "Caroline Gurney" <caroline.gurney@gmail.com> > Tom, > > I already use a consistent formula to name my images: <Last Name, > First Name, Year, Event> but that doesn't necessarily mean they sort > how I want them to sort. For example, each census image is named for > the head of household. A person may appear in several different > households in the course of a lifetime and the alphabetical order of > the heads of household may not be the same as the chronological order > of the censuses. > > We shouldn't have to start fiddling around with file names or captions > to sort media when we were able to sort them easily by dragging and > dropping in FTM 2010 and FTM 2011. I have far too many media to even > contemplate renaming / recaptioning. In any case, some media, such as > censuses, are attached to several people and renaming which works for > one person will not necessarily work for another. > > Rather than submit an enhancement request, I would urge people to > submit a bug report that this feature, which worked in the two > previous versions of the program, has now been broken. > > Caroline Gurney

Now this is very interesting. I'm running FTM 2012 build 388 on a Windows Pro machine 32-bit. I go to the Family work area and click on the Media tab in the right pane. I have multiple media items. I click on an image and start to drag it. I am shown a Pop-up window with the word, "Move" and an arrow pointing to the left. I continue to drag it and drop it at another location. Nothing happens. The Media item remains in its original location. There are no other arrows indicating I can rearrange the media items. The same thing happens if I go to the Person work area and attempt to move an image for a fact or for the Person. When I go to the Media work area, I click on a media item and attempt to drag it to a new location, I get the media item to move BUT there is a red circle with a diagonal line show just below the drag image. When I drop the image its position has not been affected. I go to FTM 2011. The Family and Person Media areas show the same thing as in FTM 2012 but the media item is relocated to the dropped location. I cannot find any arrows to rearrange the media items. Either I'm not seeing the same thing as you or there is some difference in my setup and operation of FTM 2011 and FTM 2012. BJ On 10/21/2011 11:03 AM, Linda H Gutierrez wrote: > Courtney, > > I observed the same thing also although since I do not really add media to > my file, had not noticed the arrows. In FTM 2011, dragging can be done as > well as using the arrows. But in FTM 2012, not only does it not allow you to > drag the photos, sometimes I would get messages of "This person is already > linked to the media item" when attempting to drag the media. I think > dragging the media is easier than using the arrows if there are many media > items, but at least the arrows are available to achieve the same purpose.