Where is "Save to Computer" in Web Search -> Save ? All I get is: Save to person in your tree Save to my shoebox Neither of these is useful to me. John

John, The Web Merge will include an Image. Russ ___________________________ Mailto:rworthington@att.net ________________________________ From: John Yates via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> To: "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 9:33 PM Subject: [FTM-TECH] FTM 3 22.2.4.781 lost feature Where is "Save to Computer" in Web Search -> Save ? All I get is: Save to person in your tree Save to my shoebox Neither of these is useful to me.

John, Those features are on the WEb Site and in FTM-3. Russ ___________________________ Mailto:rworthington@att.net ________________________________ From: John Yates via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> To: "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 9:33 PM Subject: [FTM-TECH] FTM 3 22.2.4.781 lost feature Where is "Save to Computer" in Web Search -> Save ? All I get is: Save to person in your tree Save to my shoebox

I am submitting a research request and was asked to provide a listing of the sources I have already obtained. Is there a way to generate a list of source citations associated with a specific individual and 2 or 3 generations of descendants? Thanks! Debbie

Go to Publish > Source Usage Reports. Then click on Create Report. While it is generating, click on Select Individuals and select the individual you want. On 2/28/2015 12:06 PM, Debbie via wrote: > I am submitting a research request and was asked to provide a listing of the sources I have already obtained. > > > Is there a way to generate a list of source citations associated with a specific individual and 2 or 3 generations of descendants? > > Thanks! > Debbie > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There is no easy way to answer your questions as it depends upon what information you really want and the format you want the information printed in. Here are your choices: Sources: 1. Listing of Sources and their information such as author, publisher, etc. is normally accomplished using a Bibliography. Unfortunately, the Bibliographies provided within FTM cannot currently be extracted based upon the individuals. The provide a listing of all Sources. 2. You may print a listing of Source titles and their repositories selected by specified individuals using the Publish, Source Reports, Source Usage Report. You may select the sources to be included by individuals. The minimum report will show the Source Title, the Repository and a listing of individuals and their facts associated with the Source Title. The report is listed by Source Title with the individuals and facts listed beneath the source title. If you want the source-citations, there is an option that lets you include them in the report. Source-citations: 1. You can generate this listing by individuals using the Endnotes and selecting for specific individuals. The Endnotes will be listed at the end of the report and may or may not start on a separate page. The Endnotes themselves will not contain any pointers or listing with whom they are associated. 2. Most of the charts, Pedigree and descendants, can optionally include a list of the source-citations by clicking on the Items to include and selecting the Include Sources options. This may suit you a little better as the source-citations are normally printed on separate pages of the chart. Again the listing does not contain any pointers or list indicating the individuals or fact associated with the Source-citation. Not sure whether any of these choices meet your need or not. BJ On 2/28/2015 11:06 AM, Debbie via wrote: > I am submitting a research request and was asked to provide a listing of the sources I have already obtained. > > > Is there a way to generate a list of source citations associated with a specific individual and 2 or 3 generations of descendants?

The direct link is http://genealogical.com/downloads/fav110.exe Courtney sitnah@cox.net ftm-tech list "mommy" -------------------------------------------------- From: "Courtney via" <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> > Go here > http://ancestryforums.custhelp.com/posts/1f2168bd89 > > in either of the messages at the bottom, click on > http://www.genealogy.com/dlfav6.html > > (it might "flash pop up" a window with your browser, then that will close) > > a box will pop up at the bottom of your screen asking where you want to > save > the file > > If you just click Save it will send it to "yourusername/Downloads > > If you click the drop down next to the Save , you can choose where to save > it > > it actually downloads ver 11 > > Right click on the fav110.exe file and "unblock" it > > you might also have to right click on it and choose "Run as Adminstrator" > to > install it > > Courtney > sitnah@cox.net

Go here http://ancestryforums.custhelp.com/posts/1f2168bd89 in either of the messages at the bottom, click on http://www.genealogy.com/dlfav6.html (it might "flash pop up" a window with your browser, then that will close) a box will pop up at the bottom of your screen asking where you want to save the file If you just click Save it will send it to "yourusername/Downloads If you click the drop down next to the Save , you can choose where to save it it actually downloads ver 11 Right click on the fav110.exe file and "unblock" it you might also have to right click on it and choose "Run as Adminstrator" to install it Courtney sitnah@cox.net -------------------------------------------------- From: "Harold & Elaine Brattland via" <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 12:12 PM To: <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Family Archive CD's > Have you been able to get the download to work? Doesn't for me. hab > On 2/27/2015 09:48, rewolf4 via wrote: >> Most of the information on the CD's has been put online or incorporated >> into Family Search or Ancestry. Despite that, I have the whole set, and >> find them very useful. You can download Family Archive Viewer from >> http://www.genealogy.com/abtffiv.html. This is Version 11 and works with >> Vista, Windows 7 and 8. >> >> Rewolf4 >> >> On 2/27/2015 1:00 AM, ftm-tech-request@rootsweb.com wrote: >>> ********************************** >>> List information page >>> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html >>> >>> Version 2008-2014 >>> http://ftm.custhelp.com/ >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Re: The Great Debate (Judy In Ocala) >>> 2. Re: Resolving Place Names (Drew DUBLER) >>> 3. Re: Searching for blank surnames (Debbie) >>> 4. Unknown Names (H R Worthington) >>> 5. Re: Family Archive CDs (Joan Parker) >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 10:46:17 -0500 >>> From: Judy In Ocala <treewright@gmail.com> >>> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] The Great Debate >>> To: "Timothy N. West" <tim_west@verizon.net>, "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" >>> <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> >>> Message-ID: <CEAE77FF-4B65-4967-803A-A825C85C5A64@gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>> >>> I like that suggestion. I have been wanting that too! I haven't needed >>> to create a bibliography in a while, so I had forgotten about that >>> problem. >>> >>> Judy in Ocala >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 3:20 PM, Timothy N. West via >>>> <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> I would like to see them add back the ability print a bibliography >>>> containing only those sources requested. Currently it appears one can >>>> only >>>> print a bibliography that contains all sources defined within your FTM >>>> file. >>>> This makes the bibliography report essentially useless unless one is >>>> creating a report or book for ALL people in your FTM database. >>>> >>>> With FTM 16, I could generate a report about a group of specific people >>>> and >>>> attach a bibliography of only those sources relevant to that group of >>>> specific people. I've been unable to figure out how to do that in FTM >>>> 2010, >>>> FTM 2012, and now FTM 2014. >>>> >>>> Unfortunately, even within the Book Feature, creating a bibliography >>>> includes all sources within the FTM file regardless of their use within >>>> that >>>> book. There is no way to tell the bibliography feature to only produce >>>> the >>>> list of sources used for select individuals. We used to be able to do >>>> this >>>> in FTM 16 and earlier versions. It disappeared when FTM 2010, 2012, >>>> and now >>>> 2014 were released. >>>> >>>> And since I'm wishing for changes with the bibliography, I would like >>>> to see >>>> the annotation paragraphs (within the bibliography) indented to make it >>>> easier to see where each bibliographic entry begins and ends. >>>> >>>> FTM 2014 provides a hanging indent for the source and then again with >>>> the >>>> annotation. Yes, bibliographic source entries are separated by a white >>>> space line but so are the annotations. Because both the bibliographic >>>> source entry and its respective annotation are formatted exactly the >>>> same, >>>> it is not easy to scan the bibliography looking for a specific entry >>>> even >>>> when alphabetized. Looking through a 106 page bibliography to find a >>>> specific source, while not impossible, is not as easy as it should be >>>> because the annotations appear to the brain to mess up the alphabetic >>>> sequence. I thought I might be able to use font changes to distinguish >>>> but, >>>> alas, FTM does not provide that level of font granularity. >>>> FTM2010-2014 do >>>> offer the option to show a dotted line divider between sources but the >>>> dotted line is very faint and thus doesn't really help the reader. >>>> Below is >>>> a quick sample output of what I see and what I would like to see. >>>> (Note: >>>> The dotted lines are a lot darker here than they appear in the FTM >>>> Source >>>> Bibliography report). >>>> >>>> ======Current FTM2014 Sample======= >>>> >>>> Bible of Goldman Smith and Letha Hammock Smith (Texas Centennial Blue >>>> Ribbon >>>> Bible; John A Hertel >>>> Company, Chicago, IL; 1948), Debbie Reynolds, 15 Mandy Lane, >>>> Forsyth, GA 31029. Source >>>> Medium: Book >>>> >>>> Lists the grandparents, great-grandparents, and dates of both Goldman >>>> Smith >>>> and Letha Hammock. Lists >>>> their children, birth dates, death dates, marriage dates, spouse >>>> and >>>> lists many of their >>>> grandchildren. >>>> ................................................................. >>>> Blasius-Baker Funeral Home, Blasius-Baker Funeral Home Memorial Card >>>> (9320 >>>> West St., Manassas, >>>> VA), Copy in possession of Timothy N. West. Source Medium: Card >>>> >>>> Gloria Dean Plaugher provided the card because I was unable to attend >>>> the >>>> funeral. >>>> ................................................................. >>>> Blevins, Ray and Laccie, Jonathan Blevins Sr. of Virginia and His >>>> Descendants (Overmountain Press, >>>> Johnson City, TN; 1982), Copy held by Mark S. Blevins, P.O. Box >>>> 4491, Chattanooga, TN >>>> 37405-0491. Source Medium: Book >>>> >>>> This book was a special edition (not for the general public), and it is >>>> no >>>> longer in print. Ray Blevins is >>>> working on a new edition of this book. >>>> ................................................................. >>>> Boat Capsizes - Harness Youth Drowns - Brother of Victim Saved by >>>> Companion >>>> (18289 Alberta Street, >>>> Oneida, TN 37841, The Scott County News, 22 Jul 1976). >>>> ................................................................. >>>> Borden, Duane L. and Jeanette Conner Ritenour, Marriages, Shenandoah >>>> County, >>>> Virginia 1850-1882 >>>> (Duane L. Borden, 5995 West Arizona Ave., Denver, CO 80226; 1987), >>>> Fairfax County Public >>>> Library, Fairfax, Fairfax Co, VA, VREF 929.3755 SHEN. Source >>>> Medium: >>>> Book >>>> >>>> A compilation of marriages taken from the Shenandoah Co, VA marriage >>>> registers. The author believes >>>> the compilation reaches into approximately 85% of the families >>>> residing in Shenandoah Co during >>>> 9 Jul 1850 through 25 Dec 1881. Some genealogy had been added to >>>> the >>>> compilation by the >>>> authors and is usually identified within parentheses below the >>>> marriage. The primary index lists >>>> both grooms and brides. A supplemental index is also included and >>>> identifies names missed in >>>> the primary index. >>>> ................................................................. >>>> ======End current sample======= >>>> >>>> I would prefer the title of the entry to be bolded and the annotation >>>> to be >>>> fully indented (not just hanging indented). I think the bibliography >>>> would >>>> be better suited to be formatted as follows (unfortunately I can't show >>>> bolded titles within the FTM-TECH list): >>>> >>>> ======Preferred sample======== >>>> >>>> Bible of Goldman Smith and Letha Hammock Smith (Texas Centennial Blue >>>> Ribbon >>>> Bible; John A Hertel >>>> Company, Chicago, IL; 1948), Debbie Reynolds, 15 Mandy Lane, >>>> Forsyth, GA 31029. Source >>>> Medium: Book >>>> >>>> Lists the grandparents, great-grandparents, and dates of both >>>> Goldman Smith and Letha Hammock. >>>> Lists their children, birth dates, death dates, marriage dates, >>>> spouse and lists many of their >>>> grandchildren. >>>> >>>> Blasius-Baker Funeral Home, Blasius-Baker Funeral Home Memorial Card >>>> (9320 >>>> West St., Manassas, >>>> VA), Copy in possession of Timothy N. West. Source Medium: Card >>>> >>>> Gloria Dean Plaugher provided the card because I was unable to >>>> attend the funeral. >>>> >>>> Blevins, Ray and Laccie, Jonathan Blevins Sr. of Virginia and His >>>> Descendants (Overmountain Press, >>>> Johnson City, TN; 1982), Copy held by Mark S. Blevins, P.O. Box >>>> 4491, Chattanooga, TN >>>> 37405-0491. Source Medium: Book >>>> >>>> This book was a special edition (not for the general public), and >>>> it >>>> is no longer in print. Ray >>>> Blevins is working on a new edition of this book. >>>> >>>> Boat Capsizes - Harness Youth Drowns - Brother of Victim Saved by >>>> Companion >>>> (18289 Alberta Street, >>>> Oneida, TN 37841, The Scott County News, 22 Jul 1976). >>>> >>>> Borden, Duane L. and Jeanette Conner Ritenour, Marriages, Shenandoah >>>> County, >>>> Virginia 1850-1882 >>>> (Duane L. Borden, 5995 West Arizona Ave., Denver, CO 80226; 1987), >>>> Fairfax County Public >>>> Library, Fairfax, Fairfax Co, VA, VREF 929.3755 SHEN. Source >>>> Medium: >>>> Book >>>> >>>> A compilation of marriages taken from the Shenandoah Co, VA >>>> marriage >>>> registers. The author >>>> believes the compilation reaches into approximately 85% of the >>>> families residing in Shenandoah >>>> Co during 9 Jul 1850 through 25 Dec 1881. Some genealogy had been >>>> added to the compilation >>>> by the authors and is usually identified within parentheses below >>>> the marriage. The primary >>>> index lists both grooms and brides. A supplemental index is also >>>> included and identifies names >>>> missed in the primary index. >>>> >>>> =======End preferred sample======== >>>> >>>> >>>> .tim west. >>>> >>>> Scott County, Tennessee Coordinator for the TNGenWeb Project >>>> http://www.tngenweb.org/scott >>>> >>>> ------------------Original Message------------------ >>>>> From: Judy in Ocala <treewright@gmail.com> >>>>> Subject: [FTM-TECH] FTM 16 v. 2014: The Great Debate >>>>> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 23:47:13 -0500 >>>>> >>>>> We are coming up on 8 years since v. 16 was completely reprogrammed to >>>>> a >>>> new database structure. In the beginning, we all felt that v. 2008 was >>>> lacking many of the features that we loved in 16. >>>>> Over the years many improvements and enhancements have been made to >>>> succeeding versions and upgrades. As a result, version 2014 is a much >>>> more >>>> stable, robust, and versatile program than 2008 was. >>>>> But in spite of the many improvements, there is an bedrock of loyal >>>>> users >>>> of v. 16. One of the reasons often given for sticking with 16 is the >>>> reports, but there hasn't been much discussion about why the reports in >>>> 16 >>>> are better. >>>>> So I'm asking those who are still using v. 16 to share their opinions. >>>>> And >>>> not just about reports, but if you think there are other ways in which >>>> v. 16 >>>> is superior. >>>>> Please give examples, and keep your comments constructive. >>>>> >>>>> Judy in Ocala >>>> ********************************** >>>> List information page >>>> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 2 >>> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 18:08:30 +0000 (UTC) >>> From: Drew DUBLER <drew@drucifer.net> >>> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving Place Names >>> To: Debbie <growingatree@hotmail.com>, "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" >>> <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> >>> Message-ID: >>> <930359453.951713.1424974110669.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >>> >>> I use RESIDENCE for Town, County, State, CountryI use ADDRESS for Street >>> I use POSTAL CODE for Zip CodeI use CENSUS for Wards, Assembly Districts >>> >>> I'm thinking of adding BUILDING NUMBER >>> As I have lots of families living on the same block in New York City >>> ?Drew >>> Cold Spring, Putnam Co., NY >>> O|||||||O >>> Modeling the New York Central in N Scale and Trainz >>> Backyard Birding & Gardening in the New York Hudson Valley >>> Genealogy HERLIHY, GOULDING, GREENE, LALIME & LENT, LYNT, van LENT >>> >>> Homepage: http://drucifer.net/index.html >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 3 >>> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 00:57:35 +0000 (UTC) >>> From: Debbie <growingatree@hotmail.com> >>> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Searching for blank surnames >>> To: "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com>, >>> "oldtrails@gmx.com" <oldtrails@gmx.com> >>> Message-ID: >>> <504090937.348255.1424998655423.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >>> >>> Regarding the posts on unknown names.... If you add the word "Unknown" >>> or things like "husband of John Smith" it will screw up the search >>> results when Ancestry (or family search) is doing searches to identify >>> potential matches to the record (i.e. "tips"). >>> >>> >>> I don't like leaving it blank and use --?-- for any unknown names. This >>> helps with the sorting process. All names that have a first name and no >>> last name will appear at the top of the name list with the following >>> format: >>> >>> --?--, Jane >>> --?--, Dorothy Anna >>> >>> I also use it for missing first names: >>> >>> Richardson, --?-- >>> >>> And in cases where I don't know either name. For example, if a document >>> says "the couple had three children." >>> >>> --?--, --?-- >>> >>> I can easily figure out who the person is by looking at the other family >>> members. It also looks decent in reports. It's a system that's worked >>> well for me. >>> >>> PS: You can do a "find and replace" to replace the word "Unknown" with >>> "--?--". >>> Debbie >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 4 >>> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 17:36:28 -0800 >>> From: H R Worthington <rworthington@att.net> >>> Subject: [FTM-TECH] Unknown Names >>> To: "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> >>> Message-ID: >>> <1425000988.73630.YahooMailNeo@web185306.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>> >>> Lots of discussion on Unknown Names. Each of us needs to determine how >>> WE hand to handle Unknown Surnames and unknown Given Names. >>> >>> Here is my experience and why I have chosen how I handle these two >>> situations. >>> >>> For unknown Given Names, I use 5 underscores >>> For unknown Surnames, I use 5 underscores >>> >>> Two reasons. >>> >>> 1) readers of a report or chart, love to help me out by "filling in the >>> blanks". >>> >>> 2) using the Web Search workspace, the fields are filled in, in the >>> manner that Ancestry.com's will accept and provide appropriate results. >>> >>> Those two reasons have worked for me for years. >>> >>> Look at the list of Surnames, If you don't use that, then other ways may >>> work for you. At a glance, I know how many surnames I am missing. >>> >>> If I am reading a report, I don't miss that fact that I am missing a >>> name with the other options that have been suggested. I really don't >>> care, but I find the Output from my work a little more readable and >>> someone not familiar with genealogy or the report will quickly >>> understand that I don't know that name. >>> >>> I don't include some relationship indication with the unknown name >>> because the chart or report will show me that relationship. >>> >>> When I tried to determine how I wanted to handle Unknown Names or any >>> other change in my database, I check input AND output. >>> >>> At the top of the People Workspace, Tree View, I have a list of unknown >>> names, Surnames and Given Names. IF I want to work on one of them, I can >>> always select that name and see the relationship. I don't search from >>> that point. But when I see a Shaky Leaf by one of those unknown names, >>> they are really good hints. That hint may not be the Surname, but those >>> HINTS HAVE, in fact, helped me identify the name of that unknown named >>> person. >>> >>> As I said earlier, the Web Search workspace form is filled in, with the >>> 5 underscores AND does provide valid results. I rarely put any other >>> information into that search form but get results. >>> >>> So, the Easy to spot people, the readability of charts and reports, the >>> Web Search feature is the reason that I use 5 underscores. >>> >>> I chose 5 because I didn't want to make it so obvious that I didn't know >>> the name, that it might have a negative impact to the reader, but I want >>> it to be a gentle reminder that I have work to do. >>> >>> One final "naming" thing. I do NOT use Married names for females. I am >>> consistent in my naming convention. If I don't know that married females >>> birth surname, 5 underscores. >>> >>> One users opinion. >>> >>> Russ >>> >>> ___________________________ >>> >>> Mailto:rworthington@att.net >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 5 >>> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 02:41:18 -0500 >>> From: Joan Parker <parker5850@gmail.com> >>> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Family Archive CDs >>> To: Robbie <RobbieRobinson_31@msn.com>, ftm-tech@rootsweb.com >>> Message-ID: >>> <CAGkz8eGGMBBgq6jwEF4HbqEqz0zAfwH76fz1A_C18g2wGfM+eQ@mail.gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >>> >>> Hi, >>> I have many of them too, but haven't even thought about them until your >>> email. Refresh my memory, please. Since they go back to v 4.0 the >>> archives >>> will also have to be "old" so can't remember what's on them. Are they >>> really of any value today? >>> Thanks, >>> Joanie >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Robbie via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I have acquired many Family Archive CDs along with a copy of Family >>>> Archive >>>> Viewer, Ver. 4.0. >>>> >>>> I am running Windows 7, 64 bit, 10 GB memory and FTM 2014. >>>> >>>> I am unable to install Family Archive Viewer on my computer. Any >>>> suggestions on how I can access these CDs? >>>> >>>> >>>> G. E. "Robbie" Robinson >>>> Meridian, ID >>>> >>>> ********************************** >>>> List information page >>>> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> >>> >>> End of FTM-TECH Digest, Vol 9, Issue 36 >>> *************************************** >>> >> ********************************** >> List information page >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

After your message, I tried the link. I was able to download FAV.EXE. It is 20 mb so it took some time with my slower internet speed but it eventually completed. I then installed it with no problems. One word of caution, after it has downloaded, the progress window sets there for about 30 seconds as though nothing is happening. I left it alone and it eventually began processing. The FTM Archive Viewer was eventually installed. I'm running under Windows 8.1 Pro. BJ On 2/27/2015 12:12 PM, Harold & Elaine Brattland via wrote: > Have you been able to get the download to work? Doesn't for me. hab > On 2/27/2015 09:48, rewolf4 via wrote: >> Most of the information on the CD's has been put online or incorporated >> into Family Search or Ancestry. Despite that, I have the whole set, and >> find them very useful. You can download Family Archive Viewer from >> http://www.genealogy.com/abtffiv.html. This is Version 11 and works with >> Vista, Windows 7 and 8. >> >> Rewolf4 >> >> On 2/27/2015 1:00 AM, ftm-tech-request@rootsweb.com wrote: >>> ********************************** >>> List information page >>> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html >>> >>> Version 2008-2014 >>> http://ftm.custhelp.com/ >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Re: The Great Debate (Judy In Ocala) >>> 2. Re: Resolving Place Names (Drew DUBLER) >>> 3. Re: Searching for blank surnames (Debbie) >>> 4. Unknown Names (H R Worthington) >>> 5. Re: Family Archive CDs (Joan Parker) >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 10:46:17 -0500 >>> From: Judy In Ocala <treewright@gmail.com> >>> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] The Great Debate >>> To: "Timothy N. West" <tim_west@verizon.net>, "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" >>> <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> >>> Message-ID: <CEAE77FF-4B65-4967-803A-A825C85C5A64@gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>> >>> I like that suggestion. I have been wanting that too! I haven't needed to create a bibliography in a while, so I had forgotten about that problem. >>> >>> Judy in Ocala >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 3:20 PM, Timothy N. West via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> I would like to see them add back the ability print a bibliography >>>> containing only those sources requested. Currently it appears one can only >>>> print a bibliography that contains all sources defined within your FTM file. >>>> This makes the bibliography report essentially useless unless one is >>>> creating a report or book for ALL people in your FTM database. >>>> >>>> With FTM 16, I could generate a report about a group of specific people and >>>> attach a bibliography of only those sources relevant to that group of >>>> specific people. I've been unable to figure out how to do that in FTM 2010, >>>> FTM 2012, and now FTM 2014. >>>> >>>> Unfortunately, even within the Book Feature, creating a bibliography >>>> includes all sources within the FTM file regardless of their use within that >>>> book. There is no way to tell the bibliography feature to only produce the >>>> list of sources used for select individuals. We used to be able to do this >>>> in FTM 16 and earlier versions. It disappeared when FTM 2010, 2012, and now >>>> 2014 were released. >>>> >>>> And since I'm wishing for changes with the bibliography, I would like to see >>>> the annotation paragraphs (within the bibliography) indented to make it >>>> easier to see where each bibliographic entry begins and ends. >>>> >>>> FTM 2014 provides a hanging indent for the source and then again with the >>>> annotation. Yes, bibliographic source entries are separated by a white >>>> space line but so are the annotations. Because both the bibliographic >>>> source entry and its respective annotation are formatted exactly the same, >>>> it is not easy to scan the bibliography looking for a specific entry even >>>> when alphabetized. Looking through a 106 page bibliography to find a >>>> specific source, while not impossible, is not as easy as it should be >>>> because the annotations appear to the brain to mess up the alphabetic >>>> sequence. I thought I might be able to use font changes to distinguish but, >>>> alas, FTM does not provide that level of font granularity. FTM2010-2014 do >>>> offer the option to show a dotted line divider between sources but the >>>> dotted line is very faint and thus doesn't really help the reader. Below is >>>> a quick sample output of what I see and what I would like to see. (Note: >>>> The dotted lines are a lot darker here than they appear in the FTM Source >>>> Bibliography report). >>>> >>>> ======Current FTM2014 Sample======= >>>> >>>> Bible of Goldman Smith and Letha Hammock Smith (Texas Centennial Blue Ribbon >>>> Bible; John A Hertel >>>> Company, Chicago, IL; 1948), Debbie Reynolds, 15 Mandy Lane, >>>> Forsyth, GA 31029. Source >>>> Medium: Book >>>> >>>> Lists the grandparents, great-grandparents, and dates of both Goldman Smith >>>> and Letha Hammock. Lists >>>> their children, birth dates, death dates, marriage dates, spouse and >>>> lists many of their >>>> grandchildren. >>>> ................................................................. >>>> Blasius-Baker Funeral Home, Blasius-Baker Funeral Home Memorial Card (9320 >>>> West St., Manassas, >>>> VA), Copy in possession of Timothy N. West. Source Medium: Card >>>> >>>> Gloria Dean Plaugher provided the card because I was unable to attend the >>>> funeral. >>>> ................................................................. >>>> Blevins, Ray and Laccie, Jonathan Blevins Sr. of Virginia and His >>>> Descendants (Overmountain Press, >>>> Johnson City, TN; 1982), Copy held by Mark S. Blevins, P.O. Box >>>> 4491, Chattanooga, TN >>>> 37405-0491. Source Medium: Book >>>> >>>> This book was a special edition (not for the general public), and it is no >>>> longer in print. Ray Blevins is >>>> working on a new edition of this book. >>>> ................................................................. >>>> Boat Capsizes - Harness Youth Drowns - Brother of Victim Saved by Companion >>>> (18289 Alberta Street, >>>> Oneida, TN 37841, The Scott County News, 22 Jul 1976). >>>> ................................................................. >>>> Borden, Duane L. and Jeanette Conner Ritenour, Marriages, Shenandoah County, >>>> Virginia 1850-1882 >>>> (Duane L. Borden, 5995 West Arizona Ave., Denver, CO 80226; 1987), >>>> Fairfax County Public >>>> Library, Fairfax, Fairfax Co, VA, VREF 929.3755 SHEN. Source Medium: >>>> Book >>>> >>>> A compilation of marriages taken from the Shenandoah Co, VA marriage >>>> registers. The author believes >>>> the compilation reaches into approximately 85% of the families >>>> residing in Shenandoah Co during >>>> 9 Jul 1850 through 25 Dec 1881. Some genealogy had been added to the >>>> compilation by the >>>> authors and is usually identified within parentheses below the >>>> marriage. The primary index lists >>>> both grooms and brides. A supplemental index is also included and >>>> identifies names missed in >>>> the primary index. >>>> ................................................................. >>>> ======End current sample======= >>>> >>>> I would prefer the title of the entry to be bolded and the annotation to be >>>> fully indented (not just hanging indented). I think the bibliography would >>>> be better suited to be formatted as follows (unfortunately I can't show >>>> bolded titles within the FTM-TECH list): >>>> >>>> ======Preferred sample======== >>>> >>>> Bible of Goldman Smith and Letha Hammock Smith (Texas Centennial Blue Ribbon >>>> Bible; John A Hertel >>>> Company, Chicago, IL; 1948), Debbie Reynolds, 15 Mandy Lane, >>>> Forsyth, GA 31029. Source >>>> Medium: Book >>>> >>>> Lists the grandparents, great-grandparents, and dates of both >>>> Goldman Smith and Letha Hammock. >>>> Lists their children, birth dates, death dates, marriage dates, >>>> spouse and lists many of their >>>> grandchildren. >>>> >>>> Blasius-Baker Funeral Home, Blasius-Baker Funeral Home Memorial Card (9320 >>>> West St., Manassas, >>>> VA), Copy in possession of Timothy N. West. Source Medium: Card >>>> >>>> Gloria Dean Plaugher provided the card because I was unable to >>>> attend the funeral. >>>> >>>> Blevins, Ray and Laccie, Jonathan Blevins Sr. of Virginia and His >>>> Descendants (Overmountain Press, >>>> Johnson City, TN; 1982), Copy held by Mark S. Blevins, P.O. Box >>>> 4491, Chattanooga, TN >>>> 37405-0491. Source Medium: Book >>>> >>>> This book was a special edition (not for the general public), and it >>>> is no longer in print. Ray >>>> Blevins is working on a new edition of this book. >>>> >>>> Boat Capsizes - Harness Youth Drowns - Brother of Victim Saved by Companion >>>> (18289 Alberta Street, >>>> Oneida, TN 37841, The Scott County News, 22 Jul 1976). >>>> >>>> Borden, Duane L. and Jeanette Conner Ritenour, Marriages, Shenandoah County, >>>> Virginia 1850-1882 >>>> (Duane L. Borden, 5995 West Arizona Ave., Denver, CO 80226; 1987), >>>> Fairfax County Public >>>> Library, Fairfax, Fairfax Co, VA, VREF 929.3755 SHEN. Source Medium: >>>> Book >>>> >>>> A compilation of marriages taken from the Shenandoah Co, VA marriage >>>> registers. The author >>>> believes the compilation reaches into approximately 85% of the >>>> families residing in Shenandoah >>>> Co during 9 Jul 1850 through 25 Dec 1881. Some genealogy had been >>>> added to the compilation >>>> by the authors and is usually identified within parentheses below >>>> the marriage. The primary >>>> index lists both grooms and brides. A supplemental index is also >>>> included and identifies names >>>> missed in the primary index. >>>> >>>> =======End preferred sample======== >>>> >>>> >>>> .tim west. >>>> >>>> Scott County, Tennessee Coordinator for the TNGenWeb Project >>>> http://www.tngenweb.org/scott >>>> >>>> ------------------Original Message------------------ >>>>> From: Judy in Ocala <treewright@gmail.com> >>>>> Subject: [FTM-TECH] FTM 16 v. 2014: The Great Debate >>>>> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 23:47:13 -0500 >>>>> >>>>> We are coming up on 8 years since v. 16 was completely reprogrammed to a >>>> new database structure. In the beginning, we all felt that v. 2008 was >>>> lacking many of the features that we loved in 16. >>>>> Over the years many improvements and enhancements have been made to >>>> succeeding versions and upgrades. As a result, version 2014 is a much more >>>> stable, robust, and versatile program than 2008 was. >>>>> But in spite of the many improvements, there is an bedrock of loyal users >>>> of v. 16. One of the reasons often given for sticking with 16 is the >>>> reports, but there hasn't been much discussion about why the reports in 16 >>>> are better. >>>>> So I'm asking those who are still using v. 16 to share their opinions. And >>>> not just about reports, but if you think there are other ways in which v. 16 >>>> is superior. >>>>> Please give examples, and keep your comments constructive. >>>>> >>>>> Judy in Ocala >>>> ********************************** >>>> List information page >>>> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 2 >>> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 18:08:30 +0000 (UTC) >>> From: Drew DUBLER <drew@drucifer.net> >>> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving Place Names >>> To: Debbie <growingatree@hotmail.com>, "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" >>> <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> >>> Message-ID: >>> <930359453.951713.1424974110669.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >>> >>> I use RESIDENCE for Town, County, State, CountryI use ADDRESS for Street >>> I use POSTAL CODE for Zip CodeI use CENSUS for Wards, Assembly Districts >>> >>> I'm thinking of adding BUILDING NUMBER >>> As I have lots of families living on the same block in New York City >>> ?Drew >>> Cold Spring, Putnam Co., NY >>> O|||||||O >>> Modeling the New York Central in N Scale and Trainz >>> Backyard Birding & Gardening in the New York Hudson Valley >>> Genealogy HERLIHY, GOULDING, GREENE, LALIME & LENT, LYNT, van LENT >>> >>> Homepage: http://drucifer.net/index.html >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 3 >>> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 00:57:35 +0000 (UTC) >>> From: Debbie <growingatree@hotmail.com> >>> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Searching for blank surnames >>> To: "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com>, >>> "oldtrails@gmx.com" <oldtrails@gmx.com> >>> Message-ID: >>> <504090937.348255.1424998655423.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >>> >>> Regarding the posts on unknown names.... If you add the word "Unknown" or things like "husband of John Smith" it will screw up the search results when Ancestry (or family search) is doing searches to identify potential matches to the record (i.e. "tips"). >>> >>> >>> I don't like leaving it blank and use --?-- for any unknown names. This helps with the sorting process. All names that have a first name and no last name will appear at the top of the name list with the following format: >>> >>> --?--, Jane >>> --?--, Dorothy Anna >>> >>> I also use it for missing first names: >>> >>> Richardson, --?-- >>> >>> And in cases where I don't know either name. For example, if a document says "the couple had three children." >>> >>> --?--, --?-- >>> >>> I can easily figure out who the person is by looking at the other family members. It also looks decent in reports. It's a system that's worked well for me. >>> >>> PS: You can do a "find and replace" to replace the word "Unknown" with "--?--". >>> Debbie >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 4 >>> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 17:36:28 -0800 >>> From: H R Worthington <rworthington@att.net> >>> Subject: [FTM-TECH] Unknown Names >>> To: "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> >>> Message-ID: >>> <1425000988.73630.YahooMailNeo@web185306.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>> >>> Lots of discussion on Unknown Names. Each of us needs to determine how WE hand to handle Unknown Surnames and unknown Given Names. >>> >>> Here is my experience and why I have chosen how I handle these two situations. >>> >>> For unknown Given Names, I use 5 underscores >>> For unknown Surnames, I use 5 underscores >>> >>> Two reasons. >>> >>> 1) readers of a report or chart, love to help me out by "filling in the blanks". >>> >>> 2) using the Web Search workspace, the fields are filled in, in the manner that Ancestry.com's will accept and provide appropriate results. >>> >>> Those two reasons have worked for me for years. >>> >>> Look at the list of Surnames, If you don't use that, then other ways may work for you. At a glance, I know how many surnames I am missing. >>> >>> If I am reading a report, I don't miss that fact that I am missing a name with the other options that have been suggested. I really don't care, but I find the Output from my work a little more readable and someone not familiar with genealogy or the report will quickly understand that I don't know that name. >>> >>> I don't include some relationship indication with the unknown name because the chart or report will show me that relationship. >>> >>> When I tried to determine how I wanted to handle Unknown Names or any other change in my database, I check input AND output. >>> >>> At the top of the People Workspace, Tree View, I have a list of unknown names, Surnames and Given Names. IF I want to work on one of them, I can always select that name and see the relationship. I don't search from that point. But when I see a Shaky Leaf by one of those unknown names, they are really good hints. That hint may not be the Surname, but those HINTS HAVE, in fact, helped me identify the name of that unknown named person. >>> >>> As I said earlier, the Web Search workspace form is filled in, with the 5 underscores AND does provide valid results. I rarely put any other information into that search form but get results. >>> >>> So, the Easy to spot people, the readability of charts and reports, the Web Search feature is the reason that I use 5 underscores. >>> >>> I chose 5 because I didn't want to make it so obvious that I didn't know the name, that it might have a negative impact to the reader, but I want it to be a gentle reminder that I have work to do. >>> >>> One final "naming" thing. I do NOT use Married names for females. I am consistent in my naming convention. If I don't know that married females birth surname, 5 underscores. >>> >>> One users opinion. >>> >>> Russ >>> >>> ___________________________ >>> >>> Mailto:rworthington@att.net >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 5 >>> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 02:41:18 -0500 >>> From: Joan Parker <parker5850@gmail.com> >>> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Family Archive CDs >>> To: Robbie <RobbieRobinson_31@msn.com>, ftm-tech@rootsweb.com >>> Message-ID: >>> <CAGkz8eGGMBBgq6jwEF4HbqEqz0zAfwH76fz1A_C18g2wGfM+eQ@mail.gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >>> >>> Hi, >>> I have many of them too, but haven't even thought about them until your >>> email. Refresh my memory, please. Since they go back to v 4.0 the archives >>> will also have to be "old" so can't remember what's on them. Are they >>> really of any value today? >>> Thanks, >>> Joanie >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Robbie via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I have acquired many Family Archive CDs along with a copy of Family Archive >>>> Viewer, Ver. 4.0. >>>> >>>> I am running Windows 7, 64 bit, 10 GB memory and FTM 2014. >>>> >>>> I am unable to install Family Archive Viewer on my computer. Any >>>> suggestions on how I can access these CDs? >>>> >>>> >>>> G. E. 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Have you been able to get the download to work? Doesn't for me. hab On 2/27/2015 09:48, rewolf4 via wrote: > Most of the information on the CD's has been put online or incorporated > into Family Search or Ancestry. Despite that, I have the whole set, and > find them very useful. You can download Family Archive Viewer from > http://www.genealogy.com/abtffiv.html. This is Version 11 and works with > Vista, Windows 7 and 8. > > Rewolf4 > > On 2/27/2015 1:00 AM, ftm-tech-request@rootsweb.com wrote: >> ********************************** >> List information page >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html >> >> Version 2008-2014 >> http://ftm.custhelp.com/ >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: The Great Debate (Judy In Ocala) >> 2. Re: Resolving Place Names (Drew DUBLER) >> 3. Re: Searching for blank surnames (Debbie) >> 4. Unknown Names (H R Worthington) >> 5. Re: Family Archive CDs (Joan Parker) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 10:46:17 -0500 >> From: Judy In Ocala <treewright@gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] The Great Debate >> To: "Timothy N. West" <tim_west@verizon.net>, "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" >> <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <CEAE77FF-4B65-4967-803A-A825C85C5A64@gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> I like that suggestion. I have been wanting that too! I haven't needed to create a bibliography in a while, so I had forgotten about that problem. >> >> Judy in Ocala >> >> >> >>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 3:20 PM, Timothy N. West via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>> >>> I would like to see them add back the ability print a bibliography >>> containing only those sources requested. Currently it appears one can only >>> print a bibliography that contains all sources defined within your FTM file. >>> This makes the bibliography report essentially useless unless one is >>> creating a report or book for ALL people in your FTM database. >>> >>> With FTM 16, I could generate a report about a group of specific people and >>> attach a bibliography of only those sources relevant to that group of >>> specific people. I've been unable to figure out how to do that in FTM 2010, >>> FTM 2012, and now FTM 2014. >>> >>> Unfortunately, even within the Book Feature, creating a bibliography >>> includes all sources within the FTM file regardless of their use within that >>> book. There is no way to tell the bibliography feature to only produce the >>> list of sources used for select individuals. We used to be able to do this >>> in FTM 16 and earlier versions. It disappeared when FTM 2010, 2012, and now >>> 2014 were released. >>> >>> And since I'm wishing for changes with the bibliography, I would like to see >>> the annotation paragraphs (within the bibliography) indented to make it >>> easier to see where each bibliographic entry begins and ends. >>> >>> FTM 2014 provides a hanging indent for the source and then again with the >>> annotation. Yes, bibliographic source entries are separated by a white >>> space line but so are the annotations. Because both the bibliographic >>> source entry and its respective annotation are formatted exactly the same, >>> it is not easy to scan the bibliography looking for a specific entry even >>> when alphabetized. Looking through a 106 page bibliography to find a >>> specific source, while not impossible, is not as easy as it should be >>> because the annotations appear to the brain to mess up the alphabetic >>> sequence. I thought I might be able to use font changes to distinguish but, >>> alas, FTM does not provide that level of font granularity. FTM2010-2014 do >>> offer the option to show a dotted line divider between sources but the >>> dotted line is very faint and thus doesn't really help the reader. Below is >>> a quick sample output of what I see and what I would like to see. (Note: >>> The dotted lines are a lot darker here than they appear in the FTM Source >>> Bibliography report). >>> >>> ======Current FTM2014 Sample======= >>> >>> Bible of Goldman Smith and Letha Hammock Smith (Texas Centennial Blue Ribbon >>> Bible; John A Hertel >>> Company, Chicago, IL; 1948), Debbie Reynolds, 15 Mandy Lane, >>> Forsyth, GA 31029. Source >>> Medium: Book >>> >>> Lists the grandparents, great-grandparents, and dates of both Goldman Smith >>> and Letha Hammock. Lists >>> their children, birth dates, death dates, marriage dates, spouse and >>> lists many of their >>> grandchildren. >>> ................................................................. >>> Blasius-Baker Funeral Home, Blasius-Baker Funeral Home Memorial Card (9320 >>> West St., Manassas, >>> VA), Copy in possession of Timothy N. West. Source Medium: Card >>> >>> Gloria Dean Plaugher provided the card because I was unable to attend the >>> funeral. >>> ................................................................. >>> Blevins, Ray and Laccie, Jonathan Blevins Sr. of Virginia and His >>> Descendants (Overmountain Press, >>> Johnson City, TN; 1982), Copy held by Mark S. Blevins, P.O. Box >>> 4491, Chattanooga, TN >>> 37405-0491. Source Medium: Book >>> >>> This book was a special edition (not for the general public), and it is no >>> longer in print. Ray Blevins is >>> working on a new edition of this book. >>> ................................................................. >>> Boat Capsizes - Harness Youth Drowns - Brother of Victim Saved by Companion >>> (18289 Alberta Street, >>> Oneida, TN 37841, The Scott County News, 22 Jul 1976). >>> ................................................................. >>> Borden, Duane L. and Jeanette Conner Ritenour, Marriages, Shenandoah County, >>> Virginia 1850-1882 >>> (Duane L. Borden, 5995 West Arizona Ave., Denver, CO 80226; 1987), >>> Fairfax County Public >>> Library, Fairfax, Fairfax Co, VA, VREF 929.3755 SHEN. Source Medium: >>> Book >>> >>> A compilation of marriages taken from the Shenandoah Co, VA marriage >>> registers. The author believes >>> the compilation reaches into approximately 85% of the families >>> residing in Shenandoah Co during >>> 9 Jul 1850 through 25 Dec 1881. Some genealogy had been added to the >>> compilation by the >>> authors and is usually identified within parentheses below the >>> marriage. The primary index lists >>> both grooms and brides. A supplemental index is also included and >>> identifies names missed in >>> the primary index. >>> ................................................................. >>> ======End current sample======= >>> >>> I would prefer the title of the entry to be bolded and the annotation to be >>> fully indented (not just hanging indented). I think the bibliography would >>> be better suited to be formatted as follows (unfortunately I can't show >>> bolded titles within the FTM-TECH list): >>> >>> ======Preferred sample======== >>> >>> Bible of Goldman Smith and Letha Hammock Smith (Texas Centennial Blue Ribbon >>> Bible; John A Hertel >>> Company, Chicago, IL; 1948), Debbie Reynolds, 15 Mandy Lane, >>> Forsyth, GA 31029. Source >>> Medium: Book >>> >>> Lists the grandparents, great-grandparents, and dates of both >>> Goldman Smith and Letha Hammock. >>> Lists their children, birth dates, death dates, marriage dates, >>> spouse and lists many of their >>> grandchildren. >>> >>> Blasius-Baker Funeral Home, Blasius-Baker Funeral Home Memorial Card (9320 >>> West St., Manassas, >>> VA), Copy in possession of Timothy N. West. Source Medium: Card >>> >>> Gloria Dean Plaugher provided the card because I was unable to >>> attend the funeral. >>> >>> Blevins, Ray and Laccie, Jonathan Blevins Sr. of Virginia and His >>> Descendants (Overmountain Press, >>> Johnson City, TN; 1982), Copy held by Mark S. Blevins, P.O. Box >>> 4491, Chattanooga, TN >>> 37405-0491. Source Medium: Book >>> >>> This book was a special edition (not for the general public), and it >>> is no longer in print. Ray >>> Blevins is working on a new edition of this book. >>> >>> Boat Capsizes - Harness Youth Drowns - Brother of Victim Saved by Companion >>> (18289 Alberta Street, >>> Oneida, TN 37841, The Scott County News, 22 Jul 1976). >>> >>> Borden, Duane L. and Jeanette Conner Ritenour, Marriages, Shenandoah County, >>> Virginia 1850-1882 >>> (Duane L. Borden, 5995 West Arizona Ave., Denver, CO 80226; 1987), >>> Fairfax County Public >>> Library, Fairfax, Fairfax Co, VA, VREF 929.3755 SHEN. Source Medium: >>> Book >>> >>> A compilation of marriages taken from the Shenandoah Co, VA marriage >>> registers. The author >>> believes the compilation reaches into approximately 85% of the >>> families residing in Shenandoah >>> Co during 9 Jul 1850 through 25 Dec 1881. Some genealogy had been >>> added to the compilation >>> by the authors and is usually identified within parentheses below >>> the marriage. The primary >>> index lists both grooms and brides. A supplemental index is also >>> included and identifies names >>> missed in the primary index. >>> >>> =======End preferred sample======== >>> >>> >>> .tim west. >>> >>> Scott County, Tennessee Coordinator for the TNGenWeb Project >>> http://www.tngenweb.org/scott >>> >>> ------------------Original Message------------------ >>>> From: Judy in Ocala <treewright@gmail.com> >>>> Subject: [FTM-TECH] FTM 16 v. 2014: The Great Debate >>>> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 23:47:13 -0500 >>>> >>>> We are coming up on 8 years since v. 16 was completely reprogrammed to a >>> new database structure. In the beginning, we all felt that v. 2008 was >>> lacking many of the features that we loved in 16. >>>> Over the years many improvements and enhancements have been made to >>> succeeding versions and upgrades. As a result, version 2014 is a much more >>> stable, robust, and versatile program than 2008 was. >>>> But in spite of the many improvements, there is an bedrock of loyal users >>> of v. 16. One of the reasons often given for sticking with 16 is the >>> reports, but there hasn't been much discussion about why the reports in 16 >>> are better. >>>> So I'm asking those who are still using v. 16 to share their opinions. And >>> not just about reports, but if you think there are other ways in which v. 16 >>> is superior. >>>> Please give examples, and keep your comments constructive. >>>> >>>> Judy in Ocala >>> ********************************** >>> List information page >>> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 18:08:30 +0000 (UTC) >> From: Drew DUBLER <drew@drucifer.net> >> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving Place Names >> To: Debbie <growingatree@hotmail.com>, "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" >> <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: >> <930359453.951713.1424974110669.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> >> I use RESIDENCE for Town, County, State, CountryI use ADDRESS for Street >> I use POSTAL CODE for Zip CodeI use CENSUS for Wards, Assembly Districts >> >> I'm thinking of adding BUILDING NUMBER >> As I have lots of families living on the same block in New York City >> ?Drew >> Cold Spring, Putnam Co., NY >> O|||||||O >> Modeling the New York Central in N Scale and Trainz >> Backyard Birding & Gardening in the New York Hudson Valley >> Genealogy HERLIHY, GOULDING, GREENE, LALIME & LENT, LYNT, van LENT >> >> Homepage: http://drucifer.net/index.html >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 00:57:35 +0000 (UTC) >> From: Debbie <growingatree@hotmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Searching for blank surnames >> To: "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com>, >> "oldtrails@gmx.com" <oldtrails@gmx.com> >> Message-ID: >> <504090937.348255.1424998655423.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> >> Regarding the posts on unknown names.... If you add the word "Unknown" or things like "husband of John Smith" it will screw up the search results when Ancestry (or family search) is doing searches to identify potential matches to the record (i.e. "tips"). >> >> >> I don't like leaving it blank and use --?-- for any unknown names. This helps with the sorting process. All names that have a first name and no last name will appear at the top of the name list with the following format: >> >> --?--, Jane >> --?--, Dorothy Anna >> >> I also use it for missing first names: >> >> Richardson, --?-- >> >> And in cases where I don't know either name. For example, if a document says "the couple had three children." >> >> --?--, --?-- >> >> I can easily figure out who the person is by looking at the other family members. It also looks decent in reports. It's a system that's worked well for me. >> >> PS: You can do a "find and replace" to replace the word "Unknown" with "--?--". >> Debbie >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 17:36:28 -0800 >> From: H R Worthington <rworthington@att.net> >> Subject: [FTM-TECH] Unknown Names >> To: "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: >> <1425000988.73630.YahooMailNeo@web185306.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> Lots of discussion on Unknown Names. Each of us needs to determine how WE hand to handle Unknown Surnames and unknown Given Names. >> >> Here is my experience and why I have chosen how I handle these two situations. >> >> For unknown Given Names, I use 5 underscores >> For unknown Surnames, I use 5 underscores >> >> Two reasons. >> >> 1) readers of a report or chart, love to help me out by "filling in the blanks". >> >> 2) using the Web Search workspace, the fields are filled in, in the manner that Ancestry.com's will accept and provide appropriate results. >> >> Those two reasons have worked for me for years. >> >> Look at the list of Surnames, If you don't use that, then other ways may work for you. At a glance, I know how many surnames I am missing. >> >> If I am reading a report, I don't miss that fact that I am missing a name with the other options that have been suggested. I really don't care, but I find the Output from my work a little more readable and someone not familiar with genealogy or the report will quickly understand that I don't know that name. >> >> I don't include some relationship indication with the unknown name because the chart or report will show me that relationship. >> >> When I tried to determine how I wanted to handle Unknown Names or any other change in my database, I check input AND output. >> >> At the top of the People Workspace, Tree View, I have a list of unknown names, Surnames and Given Names. IF I want to work on one of them, I can always select that name and see the relationship. I don't search from that point. But when I see a Shaky Leaf by one of those unknown names, they are really good hints. That hint may not be the Surname, but those HINTS HAVE, in fact, helped me identify the name of that unknown named person. >> >> As I said earlier, the Web Search workspace form is filled in, with the 5 underscores AND does provide valid results. I rarely put any other information into that search form but get results. >> >> So, the Easy to spot people, the readability of charts and reports, the Web Search feature is the reason that I use 5 underscores. >> >> I chose 5 because I didn't want to make it so obvious that I didn't know the name, that it might have a negative impact to the reader, but I want it to be a gentle reminder that I have work to do. >> >> One final "naming" thing. I do NOT use Married names for females. I am consistent in my naming convention. If I don't know that married females birth surname, 5 underscores. >> >> One users opinion. >> >> Russ >> >> ___________________________ >> >> Mailto:rworthington@att.net >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 02:41:18 -0500 >> From: Joan Parker <parker5850@gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Family Archive CDs >> To: Robbie <RobbieRobinson_31@msn.com>, ftm-tech@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: >> <CAGkz8eGGMBBgq6jwEF4HbqEqz0zAfwH76fz1A_C18g2wGfM+eQ@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> >> Hi, >> I have many of them too, but haven't even thought about them until your >> email. Refresh my memory, please. Since they go back to v 4.0 the archives >> will also have to be "old" so can't remember what's on them. Are they >> really of any value today? >> Thanks, >> Joanie >> >> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Robbie via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> >>> I have acquired many Family Archive CDs along with a copy of Family Archive >>> Viewer, Ver. 4.0. >>> >>> I am running Windows 7, 64 bit, 10 GB memory and FTM 2014. >>> >>> I am unable to install Family Archive Viewer on my computer. Any >>> suggestions on how I can access these CDs? >>> >>> >>> G. E. "Robbie" Robinson >>> Meridian, ID >>> >>> ********************************** >>> List information page >>> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> ------------------------------ >> >> >> >> End of FTM-TECH Digest, Vol 9, Issue 36 >> *************************************** >> > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Harold, WHAT doesn't happen for you? Are you installing AS Administrator? Russ ___________________________ Mailto:rworthington@att.net ________________________________ From: Harold & Elaine Brattland via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 2:12 PM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Family Archive CD's Have you been able to get the download to work? Doesn't for me. hab

Most of the information on the CD's has been put online or incorporated into Family Search or Ancestry. Despite that, I have the whole set, and find them very useful. You can download Family Archive Viewer from http://www.genealogy.com/abtffiv.html. This is Version 11 and works with Vista, Windows 7 and 8. Rewolf4 On 2/27/2015 1:00 AM, ftm-tech-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Version 2008-2014 > http://ftm.custhelp.com/ > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: The Great Debate (Judy In Ocala) > 2. Re: Resolving Place Names (Drew DUBLER) > 3. Re: Searching for blank surnames (Debbie) > 4. Unknown Names (H R Worthington) > 5. Re: Family Archive CDs (Joan Parker) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 10:46:17 -0500 > From: Judy In Ocala <treewright@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] The Great Debate > To: "Timothy N. West" <tim_west@verizon.net>, "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" > <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <CEAE77FF-4B65-4967-803A-A825C85C5A64@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I like that suggestion. I have been wanting that too! I haven't needed to create a bibliography in a while, so I had forgotten about that problem. > > Judy in Ocala > > > >> On Feb 25, 2015, at 3:20 PM, Timothy N. West via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> >> I would like to see them add back the ability print a bibliography >> containing only those sources requested. Currently it appears one can only >> print a bibliography that contains all sources defined within your FTM file. >> This makes the bibliography report essentially useless unless one is >> creating a report or book for ALL people in your FTM database. >> >> With FTM 16, I could generate a report about a group of specific people and >> attach a bibliography of only those sources relevant to that group of >> specific people. I've been unable to figure out how to do that in FTM 2010, >> FTM 2012, and now FTM 2014. >> >> Unfortunately, even within the Book Feature, creating a bibliography >> includes all sources within the FTM file regardless of their use within that >> book. There is no way to tell the bibliography feature to only produce the >> list of sources used for select individuals. We used to be able to do this >> in FTM 16 and earlier versions. It disappeared when FTM 2010, 2012, and now >> 2014 were released. >> >> And since I'm wishing for changes with the bibliography, I would like to see >> the annotation paragraphs (within the bibliography) indented to make it >> easier to see where each bibliographic entry begins and ends. >> >> FTM 2014 provides a hanging indent for the source and then again with the >> annotation. Yes, bibliographic source entries are separated by a white >> space line but so are the annotations. Because both the bibliographic >> source entry and its respective annotation are formatted exactly the same, >> it is not easy to scan the bibliography looking for a specific entry even >> when alphabetized. Looking through a 106 page bibliography to find a >> specific source, while not impossible, is not as easy as it should be >> because the annotations appear to the brain to mess up the alphabetic >> sequence. I thought I might be able to use font changes to distinguish but, >> alas, FTM does not provide that level of font granularity. FTM2010-2014 do >> offer the option to show a dotted line divider between sources but the >> dotted line is very faint and thus doesn't really help the reader. Below is >> a quick sample output of what I see and what I would like to see. (Note: >> The dotted lines are a lot darker here than they appear in the FTM Source >> Bibliography report). >> >> ======Current FTM2014 Sample======= >> >> Bible of Goldman Smith and Letha Hammock Smith (Texas Centennial Blue Ribbon >> Bible; John A Hertel >> Company, Chicago, IL; 1948), Debbie Reynolds, 15 Mandy Lane, >> Forsyth, GA 31029. Source >> Medium: Book >> >> Lists the grandparents, great-grandparents, and dates of both Goldman Smith >> and Letha Hammock. Lists >> their children, birth dates, death dates, marriage dates, spouse and >> lists many of their >> grandchildren. >> ................................................................. >> Blasius-Baker Funeral Home, Blasius-Baker Funeral Home Memorial Card (9320 >> West St., Manassas, >> VA), Copy in possession of Timothy N. West. Source Medium: Card >> >> Gloria Dean Plaugher provided the card because I was unable to attend the >> funeral. >> ................................................................. >> Blevins, Ray and Laccie, Jonathan Blevins Sr. of Virginia and His >> Descendants (Overmountain Press, >> Johnson City, TN; 1982), Copy held by Mark S. Blevins, P.O. Box >> 4491, Chattanooga, TN >> 37405-0491. Source Medium: Book >> >> This book was a special edition (not for the general public), and it is no >> longer in print. Ray Blevins is >> working on a new edition of this book. >> ................................................................. >> Boat Capsizes - Harness Youth Drowns - Brother of Victim Saved by Companion >> (18289 Alberta Street, >> Oneida, TN 37841, The Scott County News, 22 Jul 1976). >> ................................................................. >> Borden, Duane L. and Jeanette Conner Ritenour, Marriages, Shenandoah County, >> Virginia 1850-1882 >> (Duane L. Borden, 5995 West Arizona Ave., Denver, CO 80226; 1987), >> Fairfax County Public >> Library, Fairfax, Fairfax Co, VA, VREF 929.3755 SHEN. Source Medium: >> Book >> >> A compilation of marriages taken from the Shenandoah Co, VA marriage >> registers. The author believes >> the compilation reaches into approximately 85% of the families >> residing in Shenandoah Co during >> 9 Jul 1850 through 25 Dec 1881. Some genealogy had been added to the >> compilation by the >> authors and is usually identified within parentheses below the >> marriage. The primary index lists >> both grooms and brides. A supplemental index is also included and >> identifies names missed in >> the primary index. >> ................................................................. >> ======End current sample======= >> >> I would prefer the title of the entry to be bolded and the annotation to be >> fully indented (not just hanging indented). I think the bibliography would >> be better suited to be formatted as follows (unfortunately I can't show >> bolded titles within the FTM-TECH list): >> >> ======Preferred sample======== >> >> Bible of Goldman Smith and Letha Hammock Smith (Texas Centennial Blue Ribbon >> Bible; John A Hertel >> Company, Chicago, IL; 1948), Debbie Reynolds, 15 Mandy Lane, >> Forsyth, GA 31029. Source >> Medium: Book >> >> Lists the grandparents, great-grandparents, and dates of both >> Goldman Smith and Letha Hammock. >> Lists their children, birth dates, death dates, marriage dates, >> spouse and lists many of their >> grandchildren. >> >> Blasius-Baker Funeral Home, Blasius-Baker Funeral Home Memorial Card (9320 >> West St., Manassas, >> VA), Copy in possession of Timothy N. West. Source Medium: Card >> >> Gloria Dean Plaugher provided the card because I was unable to >> attend the funeral. >> >> Blevins, Ray and Laccie, Jonathan Blevins Sr. of Virginia and His >> Descendants (Overmountain Press, >> Johnson City, TN; 1982), Copy held by Mark S. Blevins, P.O. Box >> 4491, Chattanooga, TN >> 37405-0491. Source Medium: Book >> >> This book was a special edition (not for the general public), and it >> is no longer in print. Ray >> Blevins is working on a new edition of this book. >> >> Boat Capsizes - Harness Youth Drowns - Brother of Victim Saved by Companion >> (18289 Alberta Street, >> Oneida, TN 37841, The Scott County News, 22 Jul 1976). >> >> Borden, Duane L. and Jeanette Conner Ritenour, Marriages, Shenandoah County, >> Virginia 1850-1882 >> (Duane L. Borden, 5995 West Arizona Ave., Denver, CO 80226; 1987), >> Fairfax County Public >> Library, Fairfax, Fairfax Co, VA, VREF 929.3755 SHEN. Source Medium: >> Book >> >> A compilation of marriages taken from the Shenandoah Co, VA marriage >> registers. The author >> believes the compilation reaches into approximately 85% of the >> families residing in Shenandoah >> Co during 9 Jul 1850 through 25 Dec 1881. Some genealogy had been >> added to the compilation >> by the authors and is usually identified within parentheses below >> the marriage. The primary >> index lists both grooms and brides. A supplemental index is also >> included and identifies names >> missed in the primary index. >> >> =======End preferred sample======== >> >> >> .tim west. >> >> Scott County, Tennessee Coordinator for the TNGenWeb Project >> http://www.tngenweb.org/scott >> >> ------------------Original Message------------------ >>> From: Judy in Ocala <treewright@gmail.com> >>> Subject: [FTM-TECH] FTM 16 v. 2014: The Great Debate >>> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 23:47:13 -0500 >>> >>> We are coming up on 8 years since v. 16 was completely reprogrammed to a >> new database structure. In the beginning, we all felt that v. 2008 was >> lacking many of the features that we loved in 16. >>> Over the years many improvements and enhancements have been made to >> succeeding versions and upgrades. As a result, version 2014 is a much more >> stable, robust, and versatile program than 2008 was. >>> But in spite of the many improvements, there is an bedrock of loyal users >> of v. 16. One of the reasons often given for sticking with 16 is the >> reports, but there hasn't been much discussion about why the reports in 16 >> are better. >>> So I'm asking those who are still using v. 16 to share their opinions. And >> not just about reports, but if you think there are other ways in which v. 16 >> is superior. >>> Please give examples, and keep your comments constructive. >>> >>> Judy in Ocala >> ********************************** >> List information page >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 18:08:30 +0000 (UTC) > From: Drew DUBLER <drew@drucifer.net> > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving Place Names > To: Debbie <growingatree@hotmail.com>, "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" > <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <930359453.951713.1424974110669.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I use RESIDENCE for Town, County, State, CountryI use ADDRESS for Street > I use POSTAL CODE for Zip CodeI use CENSUS for Wards, Assembly Districts > > I'm thinking of adding BUILDING NUMBER > As I have lots of families living on the same block in New York City > ?Drew > Cold Spring, Putnam Co., NY > O|||||||O > Modeling the New York Central in N Scale and Trainz > Backyard Birding & Gardening in the New York Hudson Valley > Genealogy HERLIHY, GOULDING, GREENE, LALIME & LENT, LYNT, van LENT > > Homepage: http://drucifer.net/index.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 00:57:35 +0000 (UTC) > From: Debbie <growingatree@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Searching for blank surnames > To: "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com>, > "oldtrails@gmx.com" <oldtrails@gmx.com> > Message-ID: > <504090937.348255.1424998655423.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Regarding the posts on unknown names.... If you add the word "Unknown" or things like "husband of John Smith" it will screw up the search results when Ancestry (or family search) is doing searches to identify potential matches to the record (i.e. "tips"). > > > I don't like leaving it blank and use --?-- for any unknown names. This helps with the sorting process. All names that have a first name and no last name will appear at the top of the name list with the following format: > > --?--, Jane > --?--, Dorothy Anna > > I also use it for missing first names: > > Richardson, --?-- > > And in cases where I don't know either name. For example, if a document says "the couple had three children." > > --?--, --?-- > > I can easily figure out who the person is by looking at the other family members. It also looks decent in reports. It's a system that's worked well for me. > > PS: You can do a "find and replace" to replace the word "Unknown" with "--?--". > Debbie > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 17:36:28 -0800 > From: H R Worthington <rworthington@att.net> > Subject: [FTM-TECH] Unknown Names > To: "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <1425000988.73630.YahooMailNeo@web185306.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Lots of discussion on Unknown Names. Each of us needs to determine how WE hand to handle Unknown Surnames and unknown Given Names. > > Here is my experience and why I have chosen how I handle these two situations. > > For unknown Given Names, I use 5 underscores > For unknown Surnames, I use 5 underscores > > Two reasons. > > 1) readers of a report or chart, love to help me out by "filling in the blanks". > > 2) using the Web Search workspace, the fields are filled in, in the manner that Ancestry.com's will accept and provide appropriate results. > > Those two reasons have worked for me for years. > > Look at the list of Surnames, If you don't use that, then other ways may work for you. At a glance, I know how many surnames I am missing. > > If I am reading a report, I don't miss that fact that I am missing a name with the other options that have been suggested. I really don't care, but I find the Output from my work a little more readable and someone not familiar with genealogy or the report will quickly understand that I don't know that name. > > I don't include some relationship indication with the unknown name because the chart or report will show me that relationship. > > When I tried to determine how I wanted to handle Unknown Names or any other change in my database, I check input AND output. > > At the top of the People Workspace, Tree View, I have a list of unknown names, Surnames and Given Names. IF I want to work on one of them, I can always select that name and see the relationship. I don't search from that point. But when I see a Shaky Leaf by one of those unknown names, they are really good hints. That hint may not be the Surname, but those HINTS HAVE, in fact, helped me identify the name of that unknown named person. > > As I said earlier, the Web Search workspace form is filled in, with the 5 underscores AND does provide valid results. I rarely put any other information into that search form but get results. > > So, the Easy to spot people, the readability of charts and reports, the Web Search feature is the reason that I use 5 underscores. > > I chose 5 because I didn't want to make it so obvious that I didn't know the name, that it might have a negative impact to the reader, but I want it to be a gentle reminder that I have work to do. > > One final "naming" thing. I do NOT use Married names for females. I am consistent in my naming convention. If I don't know that married females birth surname, 5 underscores. > > One users opinion. > > Russ > > ___________________________ > > Mailto:rworthington@att.net > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 02:41:18 -0500 > From: Joan Parker <parker5850@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Family Archive CDs > To: Robbie <RobbieRobinson_31@msn.com>, ftm-tech@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <CAGkz8eGGMBBgq6jwEF4HbqEqz0zAfwH76fz1A_C18g2wGfM+eQ@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hi, > I have many of them too, but haven't even thought about them until your > email. Refresh my memory, please. Since they go back to v 4.0 the archives > will also have to be "old" so can't remember what's on them. Are they > really of any value today? > Thanks, > Joanie > > On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Robbie via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> wrote: > >> I have acquired many Family Archive CDs along with a copy of Family Archive >> Viewer, Ver. 4.0. >> >> I am running Windows 7, 64 bit, 10 GB memory and FTM 2014. >> >> I am unable to install Family Archive Viewer on my computer. Any >> suggestions on how I can access these CDs? >> >> >> G. E. "Robbie" Robinson >> Meridian, ID >> >> ********************************** >> List information page >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------ > > > > End of FTM-TECH Digest, Vol 9, Issue 36 > *************************************** >

> I went on a buying spree years ago. I don't really even know where they > are now. I had a bunch also, and even had a very nice list of what WAS available and what I had. Running Windows XP within a Virtual PC on a Windows 7 Professional system works easily enough, so when my associate who has by group returns them, .... Are they still valid? Most likely yes. Are they useful? I remember finding them quite useful before. Would I purchase them these days? NBL. John Okerson Lakeland, TN

Hi Russ, On 2/27/2015 6:08 AM, H R Worthington via wrote: > I still have many of them, but haven't looked at them in years. > > but that's just me. Not just you. :-) I went on a buying spree years ago. I don't really even know where they are now. Joe

Joannie, Not really because most if not all are Online now, more up to date, and readily available. You might consider donating them to a local genealogy or historical society. I still have many of them, but haven't looked at them in years. but that's just me. Russ ___________________________ Mailto:rworthington@att.net ________________________________ From: Joan Parker via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> To: Robbie <RobbieRobinson_31@msn.com>; ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 2:41 AM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Family Archive CDs Hi, I have many of them too, but haven't even thought about them until your email. Refresh my memory, please. Since they go back to v 4.0 the archives will also have to be "old" so can't remember what's on them. Are they really of any value today?

Hi, I have many of them too, but haven't even thought about them until your email. Refresh my memory, please. Since they go back to v 4.0 the archives will also have to be "old" so can't remember what's on them. Are they really of any value today? Thanks, Joanie On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Robbie via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I have acquired many Family Archive CDs along with a copy of Family Archive > Viewer, Ver. 4.0. > > I am running Windows 7, 64 bit, 10 GB memory and FTM 2014. > > I am unable to install Family Archive Viewer on my computer. Any > suggestions on how I can access these CDs? > > > G. E. "Robbie" Robinson > Meridian, ID > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Regarding the posts on unknown names.... If you add the word "Unknown" or things like "husband of John Smith" it will screw up the search results when Ancestry (or family search) is doing searches to identify potential matches to the record (i.e. "tips"). I don't like leaving it blank and use --?-- for any unknown names. This helps with the sorting process. All names that have a first name and no last name will appear at the top of the name list with the following format: --?--, Jane --?--, Dorothy Anna I also use it for missing first names: Richardson, --?-- And in cases where I don't know either name. For example, if a document says "the couple had three children." --?--, --?-- I can easily figure out who the person is by looking at the other family members. It also looks decent in reports. It's a system that's worked well for me. PS: You can do a "find and replace" to replace the word "Unknown" with "--?--". Debbie

I use RESIDENCE for Town, County, State, CountryI use ADDRESS for Street I use POSTAL CODE for Zip CodeI use CENSUS for Wards, Assembly Districts I'm thinking of adding BUILDING NUMBER As I have lots of families living on the same block in New York City  Drew Cold Spring, Putnam Co., NY O|||||||O Modeling the New York Central in N Scale and Trainz Backyard Birding & Gardening in the New York Hudson Valley Genealogy HERLIHY, GOULDING, GREENE, LALIME & LENT, LYNT, van LENT Homepage: http://drucifer.net/index.html

Lots of discussion on Unknown Names. Each of us needs to determine how WE hand to handle Unknown Surnames and unknown Given Names. Here is my experience and why I have chosen how I handle these two situations. For unknown Given Names, I use 5 underscores For unknown Surnames, I use 5 underscores Two reasons. 1) readers of a report or chart, love to help me out by "filling in the blanks". 2) using the Web Search workspace, the fields are filled in, in the manner that Ancestry.com's will accept and provide appropriate results. Those two reasons have worked for me for years. Look at the list of Surnames, If you don't use that, then other ways may work for you. At a glance, I know how many surnames I am missing. If I am reading a report, I don't miss that fact that I am missing a name with the other options that have been suggested. I really don't care, but I find the Output from my work a little more readable and someone not familiar with genealogy or the report will quickly understand that I don't know that name. I don't include some relationship indication with the unknown name because the chart or report will show me that relationship. When I tried to determine how I wanted to handle Unknown Names or any other change in my database, I check input AND output. At the top of the People Workspace, Tree View, I have a list of unknown names, Surnames and Given Names. IF I want to work on one of them, I can always select that name and see the relationship. I don't search from that point. But when I see a Shaky Leaf by one of those unknown names, they are really good hints. That hint may not be the Surname, but those HINTS HAVE, in fact, helped me identify the name of that unknown named person. As I said earlier, the Web Search workspace form is filled in, with the 5 underscores AND does provide valid results. I rarely put any other information into that search form but get results. So, the Easy to spot people, the readability of charts and reports, the Web Search feature is the reason that I use 5 underscores. I chose 5 because I didn't want to make it so obvious that I didn't know the name, that it might have a negative impact to the reader, but I want it to be a gentle reminder that I have work to do. One final "naming" thing. I do NOT use Married names for females. I am consistent in my naming convention. If I don't know that married females birth surname, 5 underscores. One users opinion. Russ ___________________________ Mailto:rworthington@att.net

I like that suggestion. I have been wanting that too! I haven't needed to create a bibliography in a while, so I had forgotten about that problem. Judy in Ocala > On Feb 25, 2015, at 3:20 PM, Timothy N. West via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > I would like to see them add back the ability print a bibliography > containing only those sources requested. Currently it appears one can only > print a bibliography that contains all sources defined within your FTM file. > This makes the bibliography report essentially useless unless one is > creating a report or book for ALL people in your FTM database. > > With FTM 16, I could generate a report about a group of specific people and > attach a bibliography of only those sources relevant to that group of > specific people. I've been unable to figure out how to do that in FTM 2010, > FTM 2012, and now FTM 2014. > > Unfortunately, even within the Book Feature, creating a bibliography > includes all sources within the FTM file regardless of their use within that > book. There is no way to tell the bibliography feature to only produce the > list of sources used for select individuals. We used to be able to do this > in FTM 16 and earlier versions. It disappeared when FTM 2010, 2012, and now > 2014 were released. > > And since I'm wishing for changes with the bibliography, I would like to see > the annotation paragraphs (within the bibliography) indented to make it > easier to see where each bibliographic entry begins and ends. > > FTM 2014 provides a hanging indent for the source and then again with the > annotation. Yes, bibliographic source entries are separated by a white > space line but so are the annotations. Because both the bibliographic > source entry and its respective annotation are formatted exactly the same, > it is not easy to scan the bibliography looking for a specific entry even > when alphabetized. Looking through a 106 page bibliography to find a > specific source, while not impossible, is not as easy as it should be > because the annotations appear to the brain to mess up the alphabetic > sequence. I thought I might be able to use font changes to distinguish but, > alas, FTM does not provide that level of font granularity. FTM2010-2014 do > offer the option to show a dotted line divider between sources but the > dotted line is very faint and thus doesn't really help the reader. Below is > a quick sample output of what I see and what I would like to see. (Note: > The dotted lines are a lot darker here than they appear in the FTM Source > Bibliography report). > > ======Current FTM2014 Sample======= > > Bible of Goldman Smith and Letha Hammock Smith (Texas Centennial Blue Ribbon > Bible; John A Hertel > Company, Chicago, IL; 1948), Debbie Reynolds, 15 Mandy Lane, > Forsyth, GA 31029. Source > Medium: Book > > Lists the grandparents, great-grandparents, and dates of both Goldman Smith > and Letha Hammock. Lists > their children, birth dates, death dates, marriage dates, spouse and > lists many of their > grandchildren. > ................................................................. > Blasius-Baker Funeral Home, Blasius-Baker Funeral Home Memorial Card (9320 > West St., Manassas, > VA), Copy in possession of Timothy N. West. Source Medium: Card > > Gloria Dean Plaugher provided the card because I was unable to attend the > funeral. > ................................................................. > Blevins, Ray and Laccie, Jonathan Blevins Sr. of Virginia and His > Descendants (Overmountain Press, > Johnson City, TN; 1982), Copy held by Mark S. Blevins, P.O. Box > 4491, Chattanooga, TN > 37405-0491. Source Medium: Book > > This book was a special edition (not for the general public), and it is no > longer in print. Ray Blevins is > working on a new edition of this book. > ................................................................. > Boat Capsizes - Harness Youth Drowns - Brother of Victim Saved by Companion > (18289 Alberta Street, > Oneida, TN 37841, The Scott County News, 22 Jul 1976). > ................................................................. > Borden, Duane L. and Jeanette Conner Ritenour, Marriages, Shenandoah County, > Virginia 1850-1882 > (Duane L. Borden, 5995 West Arizona Ave., Denver, CO 80226; 1987), > Fairfax County Public > Library, Fairfax, Fairfax Co, VA, VREF 929.3755 SHEN. Source Medium: > Book > > A compilation of marriages taken from the Shenandoah Co, VA marriage > registers. The author believes > the compilation reaches into approximately 85% of the families > residing in Shenandoah Co during > 9 Jul 1850 through 25 Dec 1881. Some genealogy had been added to the > compilation by the > authors and is usually identified within parentheses below the > marriage. The primary index lists > both grooms and brides. A supplemental index is also included and > identifies names missed in > the primary index. > ................................................................. > ======End current sample======= > > I would prefer the title of the entry to be bolded and the annotation to be > fully indented (not just hanging indented). I think the bibliography would > be better suited to be formatted as follows (unfortunately I can't show > bolded titles within the FTM-TECH list): > > ======Preferred sample======== > > Bible of Goldman Smith and Letha Hammock Smith (Texas Centennial Blue Ribbon > Bible; John A Hertel > Company, Chicago, IL; 1948), Debbie Reynolds, 15 Mandy Lane, > Forsyth, GA 31029. Source > Medium: Book > > Lists the grandparents, great-grandparents, and dates of both > Goldman Smith and Letha Hammock. > Lists their children, birth dates, death dates, marriage dates, > spouse and lists many of their > grandchildren. > > Blasius-Baker Funeral Home, Blasius-Baker Funeral Home Memorial Card (9320 > West St., Manassas, > VA), Copy in possession of Timothy N. West. Source Medium: Card > > Gloria Dean Plaugher provided the card because I was unable to > attend the funeral. > > Blevins, Ray and Laccie, Jonathan Blevins Sr. of Virginia and His > Descendants (Overmountain Press, > Johnson City, TN; 1982), Copy held by Mark S. Blevins, P.O. Box > 4491, Chattanooga, TN > 37405-0491. Source Medium: Book > > This book was a special edition (not for the general public), and it > is no longer in print. Ray > Blevins is working on a new edition of this book. > > Boat Capsizes - Harness Youth Drowns - Brother of Victim Saved by Companion > (18289 Alberta Street, > Oneida, TN 37841, The Scott County News, 22 Jul 1976). > > Borden, Duane L. and Jeanette Conner Ritenour, Marriages, Shenandoah County, > Virginia 1850-1882 > (Duane L. Borden, 5995 West Arizona Ave., Denver, CO 80226; 1987), > Fairfax County Public > Library, Fairfax, Fairfax Co, VA, VREF 929.3755 SHEN. Source Medium: > Book > > A compilation of marriages taken from the Shenandoah Co, VA marriage > registers. The author > believes the compilation reaches into approximately 85% of the > families residing in Shenandoah > Co during 9 Jul 1850 through 25 Dec 1881. Some genealogy had been > added to the compilation > by the authors and is usually identified within parentheses below > the marriage. The primary > index lists both grooms and brides. A supplemental index is also > included and identifies names > missed in the primary index. > > =======End preferred sample======== > > > .tim west. > > Scott County, Tennessee Coordinator for the TNGenWeb Project > http://www.tngenweb.org/scott > > ------------------Original Message------------------ >> From: Judy in Ocala <treewright@gmail.com> >> Subject: [FTM-TECH] FTM 16 v. 2014: The Great Debate >> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 23:47:13 -0500 >> >> We are coming up on 8 years since v. 16 was completely reprogrammed to a > new database structure. In the beginning, we all felt that v. 2008 was > lacking many of the features that we loved in 16. >> Over the years many improvements and enhancements have been made to > succeeding versions and upgrades. As a result, version 2014 is a much more > stable, robust, and versatile program than 2008 was. >> But in spite of the many improvements, there is an bedrock of loyal users > of v. 16. One of the reasons often given for sticking with 16 is the > reports, but there hasn't been much discussion about why the reports in 16 > are better. >> So I'm asking those who are still using v. 16 to share their opinions. And > not just about reports, but if you think there are other ways in which v. 16 > is superior. >> Please give examples, and keep your comments constructive. >> >> Judy in Ocala > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message