John, I have not found any either at this time. Thanks, David C Abernathy Email disclaimers ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message represents the official view of the voices in my head. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.SchmeckAbernathy.com == All outgoing and incoming mail is scanned by F-Prot Antivirus  == -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of David Abernathy via Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 12:41 PM To: 'John Yates'; ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] FTM 3 22.2.4.781 lost feature John, I have not found any images being blocked using IE. Can you provide a link to an image the is blocked to you? Thanks, David C Abernathy Email disclaimers ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message represents the official view of the voices in my head. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.SchmeckAbernathy.com == All outgoing and incoming mail is scanned by F-Prot Antivirus  == -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Yates via Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 12:28 PM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] FTM 3 22.2.4.781 lost feature David, My experiments show that they have disabled the right-click save image as... And thus my surprise. I'm not sure how they did that in Firefox, but that is what I've seen. Programmatically, I'm sure it is possible, and that's what they've done. Wouldn't it be nice if it showed the message: "Downloads are not permitted for this file. Contact <THEM> to purchase a copy...". Or something like it. This would have saved us all a lot of time wouldn't it! A programmer could have done that in under 5 minutes. I take that back. A good programmer could have done that in under 5 minutes. John On 3/3/2015 2:04 PM, David Abernathy wrote: > John, > I am NOT a Mac user. > > I think the issue is that things were changed at Ancestry. I even with > my Windows version have the same issue that you are having with then > Mac version. > There is this same issue when just browsing Ancestry using one's > browser. So it is an issue with Ancestry.com not FTM. > > When you are on the internet using your normal browser, how do you > save an image to your computer? > On a windows system using IE, all one needs to do is Right click the > image and select "Save Picture as", and one is given the File Save > pane, which one can change the location, names and a few other options > before the save is made. > > If you were to do the same thing within FTM Mac 3 version while > viewing the image that you want to save to your local machine, it > should work. > > > Thanks, > David C Abernathy > Email disclaimers > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------ This message represents the official view of the voices in my > head. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------ > http://www.SchmeckAbernathy.com > == All outgoing and incoming mail is scanned by F-Prot Antivirus == > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of John Yates via > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 8:15 AM > To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] FTM 3 22.2.4.781 lost feature > > All I know is that I have until this latest FTM Mac 3 version been > able to save a record image to my computer in a LOCAL DISK FILE. It > may have been with right-click save image. But even that is missing, > or when it does appear it saves an empty or corrupted file. > > I saved the image to shoebox. Shoebox is not described in the FTM > Manual. I googled and it seems it is only available on ancesty.com . > I went there. Found shoebox at the bottom of the page. I clicked on > the record I want to save TO MY COMPUTER. > > First, I clicked on VIEW. The SAVE button merely offers that it is in > my shoebox, and the other option is to SAVE TO PERSON IN MY TREE. > This is the ONLINE TREE where it is useless to me. > > Second, I click on VIEW. There is the image I want to download to A > FILE ON MY COMPUTER. > > I click on SAVE. It offers that it is in my shoebox or I can save it > to a person in my tree. No good for me. > > Then I right-clicked. Save Image As... displays (an is probably the > way I got these before). However, Ancestry has done something to > prevent the actual image from saving. It is a garbage, empty file. > I tried using Firefox and Chrome browsers. Same nonsense. > > Now, would someone care to tell me where the "Save to Computer" > option went, and when it will be back? > > (I've cc-ed this one to Ancestry Support). > > John > > On 3/3/2015 8:06 AM, H R Worthington wrote: >> John, >> >> Save to computer has not been with us since FTM2008 and the first Mac >> version >> >> As I said before, Save to Computer or Save to Shoebox is from the Web > Site. >> >> I didn't say anything about online trees. >> >> Go to the record you want, and you will see the Shoebox or Save to >> Computer option. >> >> Russ >> ___________________________ >> >> Mailto:rworthington@att.net >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >> -- >> *From:* John Yates via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> >> *To:* "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 3, 2015 1:51 AM >> *Subject:* Re: [FTM-TECH] FTM 3 22.2.4.781 lost feature >> >> No, "Save to Computer" is not in the latest version of FTM 3. >> >> Why not? >> >> I have no use for on line trees. >> >> John >> >> >> >> On 3/2/2015 10:42 PM, H R Worthington wrote: >> > John, >> > >> > Those features are on the WEb Site and in FTM-3. >> > >> > Russ >> > ___________________________ >> > >> > Mailto:rworthington@att.net <mailto:rworthington@att.net> > > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >> -- > *From:* John Yates via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com >> <mailto:ftm-tech@rootsweb.com>> > *To:* "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com >> <mailto:ftm-tech@rootsweb.com>" >> <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com <mailto:ftm-tech@rootsweb.com>> > *Sent:* >> Monday, March 2, 2015 9:33 PM > *Subject:* [FTM-TECH] FTM 3 >> 22.2.4.781 lost feature > > Where is "Save to Computer" in Web >> Search -> Save ? >> > All I get is: >> > Save to person in your tree >> > Save to my shoebox >> ********************************** >> List information page >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com <mailto:FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com> >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the >> body of the message >> >> > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Chris: Source Template: Artifact (Private Holding) Compiler surname: [ Surname of the compiler ] Bauman Compiler forename(s): [ Given name(s) of the compiler ] Christine Haws Artifact type: [ Description of the artifact in one or two words ] Wedding Invitation Creation date: [ Date the artifact was created ] April 1988 Owner: [ Name of current owner ] Christine Bauman Owner address: [ Street address of the owner [for private use - will not be printed] ] Owner location: [ City, state/province of the owner ] Greenwood, Indiana Year owned: [ Most recent year owned or held ] 2015 Citation Detail would go into more detail about the document. I don't have enough information to do that, but watch the Reference Note to see what is there BEFORE you enter information into the Citation Detail field, then look at it when you get done. What you provided so far is the SOURCE information and NOT the Citation or complete Reference Note Christine Haws Bauman Bauman Family Collection; privately held by Christine Bauman, Greenwood, Indiana , 2015. HAWS/LISOWSKI wedding invitation, April 1988. Russ ___________________________ Mailto:rworthington@att.net ________________________________ From: Chris Bauman via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Source template output problem Stepping through the select the template: Archives and Artifacts Private Holdings Artifacts ----- Original Message ----- From: "H R Worthington" <rworthington@att.net> To: "Chris Bauman" <chris.bauman@comcast.net>, ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 2:47:01 PM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Source template output problem Chris, IF you go to Select a Source Template, I guess you selected Archives and Artifacts for the Category What did you select for the Template ? Russ ___________________________ Mailto:rworthington@att.net ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

John, I have not found any images being blocked using IE. Can you provide a link to an image the is blocked to you? Thanks, David C Abernathy Email disclaimers ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message represents the official view of the voices in my head. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.SchmeckAbernathy.com == All outgoing and incoming mail is scanned by F-Prot Antivirus  == -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Yates via Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 12:28 PM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] FTM 3 22.2.4.781 lost feature David, My experiments show that they have disabled the right-click save image as... And thus my surprise. I'm not sure how they did that in Firefox, but that is what I've seen. Programmatically, I'm sure it is possible, and that's what they've done. Wouldn't it be nice if it showed the message: "Downloads are not permitted for this file. Contact <THEM> to purchase a copy...". Or something like it. This would have saved us all a lot of time wouldn't it! A programmer could have done that in under 5 minutes. I take that back. A good programmer could have done that in under 5 minutes. John On 3/3/2015 2:04 PM, David Abernathy wrote: > John, > I am NOT a Mac user. > > I think the issue is that things were changed at Ancestry. I even with > my Windows version have the same issue that you are having with then > Mac version. > There is this same issue when just browsing Ancestry using one's > browser. So it is an issue with Ancestry.com not FTM. > > When you are on the internet using your normal browser, how do you > save an image to your computer? > On a windows system using IE, all one needs to do is Right click the > image and select "Save Picture as", and one is given the File Save > pane, which one can change the location, names and a few other options > before the save is made. > > If you were to do the same thing within FTM Mac 3 version while > viewing the image that you want to save to your local machine, it should work. > > > Thanks, > David C Abernathy > Email disclaimers > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------ This message represents the official view of the voices in my > head. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------ > http://www.SchmeckAbernathy.com > == All outgoing and incoming mail is scanned by F-Prot Antivirus == > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of John Yates via > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 8:15 AM > To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] FTM 3 22.2.4.781 lost feature > > All I know is that I have until this latest FTM Mac 3 version been > able to save a record image to my computer in a LOCAL DISK FILE. It > may have been with right-click save image. But even that is missing, > or when it does appear it saves an empty or corrupted file. > > I saved the image to shoebox. Shoebox is not described in the FTM > Manual. I googled and it seems it is only available on ancesty.com . > I went there. Found shoebox at the bottom of the page. I clicked on > the record I want to save TO MY COMPUTER. > > First, I clicked on VIEW. The SAVE button merely offers that it is in > my shoebox, and the other option is to SAVE TO PERSON IN MY TREE. > This is the ONLINE TREE where it is useless to me. > > Second, I click on VIEW. There is the image I want to download to A > FILE ON MY COMPUTER. > > I click on SAVE. It offers that it is in my shoebox or I can save it > to a person in my tree. No good for me. > > Then I right-clicked. Save Image As... displays (an is probably the > way I got these before). However, Ancestry has done something to > prevent the actual image from saving. It is a garbage, empty file. > I tried using Firefox and Chrome browsers. Same nonsense. > > Now, would someone care to tell me where the "Save to Computer" > option went, and when it will be back? > > (I've cc-ed this one to Ancestry Support). > > John > > On 3/3/2015 8:06 AM, H R Worthington wrote: >> John, >> >> Save to computer has not been with us since FTM2008 and the first Mac >> version >> >> As I said before, Save to Computer or Save to Shoebox is from the Web > Site. >> >> I didn't say anything about online trees. >> >> Go to the record you want, and you will see the Shoebox or Save to >> Computer option. >> >> Russ >> ___________________________ >> >> Mailto:rworthington@att.net >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >> -- >> *From:* John Yates via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> >> *To:* "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 3, 2015 1:51 AM >> *Subject:* Re: [FTM-TECH] FTM 3 22.2.4.781 lost feature >> >> No, "Save to Computer" is not in the latest version of FTM 3. >> >> Why not? >> >> I have no use for on line trees. >> >> John >> >> >> >> On 3/2/2015 10:42 PM, H R Worthington wrote: >> > John, >> > >> > Those features are on the WEb Site and in FTM-3. >> > >> > Russ >> > ___________________________ >> > >> > Mailto:rworthington@att.net <mailto:rworthington@att.net> > > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >> -- > *From:* John Yates via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com >> <mailto:ftm-tech@rootsweb.com>> > *To:* "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com >> <mailto:ftm-tech@rootsweb.com>" >> <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com <mailto:ftm-tech@rootsweb.com>> > *Sent:* >> Monday, March 2, 2015 9:33 PM > *Subject:* [FTM-TECH] FTM 3 >> 22.2.4.781 lost feature > > Where is "Save to Computer" in Web >> Search -> Save ? >> > All I get is: >> > Save to person in your tree >> > Save to my shoebox >> ********************************** >> List information page >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com <mailto:FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com> >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the >> body of the message >> >> > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Chris, Good so far. What you need to understand is that the Citation DETAIL will help complete the Reference Note go be close to 3.25 and the Reference Note on the top of page 139 That is where you describe what you are looking at. More like the 2nd example Reference Note. You want to Describe that document in the Citation Detail field. You will see the Reference Note updated when you tab out of the Citation Detail field. i use the Citation Text for my own use. Russ ___________________________ Mailto:rworthington@att.net ________________________________ From: Chris Bauman via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Source template output problem Stepping through the select the template: Archives and Artifacts Private Holdings Artifacts ----- Original Message ----- From: "H R Worthington" <rworthington@att.net> To: "Chris Bauman" <chris.bauman@comcast.net>, ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 2:47:01 PM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Source template output problem Chris, IF you go to Select a Source Template, I guess you selected Archives and Artifacts for the Category What did you select for the Template ? Russ ___________________________ Mailto:rworthington@att.net ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I went to Ancestry.com and tried to find the record I wanted via a search mimicking the FTM green leaf search. I was unsuccessful in finding the record I wanted, that the green leaf found. So, I went to the green leaf and got to the image I want via its web search. When displaying the image, I saw a url in a box. It is an ancestry.com url. Here it is (shortened): http://tinyurl.com/onz5xhv When I display this in Firefox, I only get the two options: Save to person in your tree (which is the on line tree) Save to your shoebox I do not see "Save to your Computer". However, in my failed attempt to find a record directly in Ancestry.com, I did see a record that had an image. I clicked on the image to display it, then on SAVE. FOR THAT IMAGE I saw three options. The two above, and "Save to your Computer". So Ancestry gives different options for different records. Wonderful! If someone wishes to duplicate this, here is the individual for which a green leaf should pop up: John \Van Sandt\ b. 1726 Cape May, New Jersey d. 1820 Lower Bank, Burlington, New Jersey m. 1787 The green leaf in question is: US Sons of the American Revolution Membership Applications 1889-1970. So my question is: How do I find a "Save to my computer" button for this specific record that will download both pages of this app? Or, how do I find a right-click "Save Image..." that works for each of the two pages. Meanwhile, Apple has saved the day by providing a capture screen that I have currently used for each of the two pages. Brain dead, but it works. Unlike anything I've been able to get to work with Ancestry's FTM. John and yes, Ancestry support is being cc-ed on my messages. I consider this a serious bug.

I know I'm a bit late joining this debate, but I'd like to add my "wish list of things I would like to see improved in FTM 2014 and the AMT: All Charts - it's the box size that bugs me. If I "unclick" keep boxes the same size, the HEIGHT becomes variable but the width stays the same for all boxes based on the "maximum width" I set. This makes for a very large chart when it doesn't need to be. I have actually had to go back to my v.16 to create Descendant Charts because of this. Relationship Chart - This chart is a great addition. However, it does not include spouses. If I want a chart that goes from my 5th great grandparents to me, my only work-around is to build a new tree showing just that line. And then I'm faced with the problem above, but at least I have both grandparents. I would like to see an option to "include spouses" when creating direct descendant lines (like the old Direct Descendant Chart in v 16). Title Field - Yes, that field is available. With many people by the same name in my tree, I need their title to identify which one I'm looking for. However - if I use the "Title" field, and add it to the index so it shows, the name is sorted by the TITLE. The Index treats the title as the first name! I end up having to put the title in the Suffix field (in brackets) so I can see it but not mess up the Index. That completely defeats the purpose of the field. I would like to see that field set on "show but ignore" in the Index. Syncing to Ancestry... Notes - The associates at Ancestry explained to me that the programmers assumed" we ALL use these as RESEARCH notes and therefore have no need to share them. So ALL notes are treated as "Private" unless we want to share them with those who are collaborating with us on the tree, i.e. an Editor. Unfortunately - for us - that primary assumption is simply wrong. Good grief that is why we have a SEPARATE "Research Notes" tab in FTM 2014. I, for one put obituaries, bios, and all sundry on individual people in their "notes". I'm sure we all do. What Ancestry wants us to do is create a "Story" instead which would be visible to all. The problem with that is that it is not readily visible to ME. My tree (69,890 people) is right now set to Private on Ancestry (indexed), and my only workaround re the notes is to have those few I have invited to be Editors. Yes, they COULD make changes but I have made them promise not to. :). It is the only way they can see my copious notes. Sometimes the programmers need to stop second-guessing us. Marriage field notes - Did you know any notes you place in the Marriage field don't even show up in Ancestry! They are just not there. I use the notes in the Marriage field to put wedding announcements, anniversary notices, family histories (shared by both), etc. That's fine for me - but no one else will see them, unless I print out a Genie Report. This is also the main reason if I run into a major problem with my FTM tree, I can't just download another copy from Ancestry. I lose all my marriage notes. What I don't understand is, any pictures I put in the Marriage Album sync to my Ancestry tree - why can't the notes?? Marriage date field - In FTM you can put "never married" in the date field so you, and anyone you share the tree with, know not to go looking for a spouse. This information is included in the Genie Report. Great idea! Here's what happens when you sync your tree. When you go to the person's profile page, the Marriage field shows "Marriage to Unknown" - talk about the complete opposite to what you are trying to say! AKA field - This one annoys me the greatest. I firmly believe that AKAs do not belong in the Name Fields. In my Workspace in FTM (the right column) I have put the field right up at the top, and use it all the time for nicknames, etc. It is enough that I have to put the Title in the Suffix field, without including all the AKAs. The problem is the AMT. When you look at the profile page, the programmers apparently do not think the AKA field is important - it's buried down in the timeline BELOW all the "dated" events No one would think or bother to scroll down to find a nickname for a person so owners of trees are forced to resort to putting the AKA in quotes in the Name Field, defeating the purpose of the AKA entirely. We can create reports in FTM that will do that for us. I would like to see the AKA field in the AMT moved to the header, right below the Name. Then people will start using it for what it is. There, those are my wishes. Lorraine Sherren, UE Kingston, Ontario

John, The SAR and DAR records are not available as "Save to Computer" at all. This is part of the contract that Ancestry has with these 2 organisations. Other databases (collections) also have these restrictions. I have to use a snipping tool to get these saved locally. SAR and DAR want you to pay them for the images. Ancestry isn't the only major genealogy site with these restrictions in place. FamilySearch has restrictions on some collections that limit access unless you are at a Family History Centre. Once again the owner of the collection wishes to be paid for access. Kent Parish Registers are one example. Rosemary On 3/3/2015 10:40 AM, John Yates via wrote: > I now tried the Merge business. I displayed the record I wanted, went > through Merge, allowing FTM to pollute my person record with its > nonsense, and sure enough it did save the media image of the page. > Next test will be to uncheck everything so it doesn't pollute my > person records and see if the media still is saved. > > But, I had to discover where the media was saved in the FTM tree > in order to copy it to where I want it on my computer. > > So many unnecessary steps! When will "SAVE TO MY COMPUTER" be brought > back???? > > However, there is now another fatal problem. The document I found and > want to save is a part of a many page document. So the merge save > saved only the first page of what I want. > > So I clicked the right arrow for the second page. Went through the > merge again. It saved the previous page again!!!!! Not the page that > was displaying. Not the page that I needed. > > I repeat, when will they bring back "SAVE TO MY COMPUTER" which worked > fine for me until recently? > > The only thing I have been able to do is to display the image on as much > real estate of my 25" screen as possible and do an Apple Screen Capture. > Thank you Apple!!!! This, of course, works fine for both pages. But > resolution suffers some. And this would not be necessary if they would > just bring back "SAVE TO MY COMPUTER". > > Why does Ancestry leap backward sometimes with their "advances"? > > John > > On 3/3/2015 8:08 AM, H R Worthington wrote: >> Web Merge is NOT for online tres. It is a Feature to merge RECORDS from >> Ancestry or any other website, into FTM2014 or FTM-3. >> >> I have told you 3 times out to save an image directly to your computer, >> from the website with your browser.. >> >> Russ >> ___________________________ >> >> Mailto:rworthington@att.net >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From:* John Yates via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> >> *To:* "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 3, 2015 1:52 AM >> *Subject:* Re: [FTM-TECH] FTM 3 22.2.4.781 lost feature >> >> Web Merge is to an on line tree, yes? I do not have an on line >> tree. >> >> How do I save the images, etc. directly to my computer? >> >> John >> >> >> >> On 3/2/2015 10:43 PM, H R Worthington wrote: >> > John, >> > >> > The Web Merge will include an Image. >> > >> > Russ >> > ___________________________ >> > >> > Mailto:rworthington@att.net <mailto:rworthington@att.net> >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > *From:* John Yates via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com >> <mailto:ftm-tech@rootsweb.com>> >> > *To:* "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com <mailto:ftm-tech@rootsweb.com>" >> <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com <mailto:ftm-tech@rootsweb.com>> >> > *Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2015 9:33 PM >> > *Subject:* [FTM-TECH] FTM 3 22.2.4.781 lost feature >> > >> > Where is "Save to Computer" in Web Search -> Save ? >> > All I get is: >> > Save to person in your tree >> > Save to my shoebox >> > >> > Neither of these is useful to me. >> ********************************** >> List information page >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com <mailto:FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com> >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the >> body of the message >> >> > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 3/3/2015 11:32 AM, Judy In Ocala wrote: > John, if you are accessing Ancestry.com documents via FTM, you will not have the Save to Computer feature. You can merge the document to your FTM file, but that is all. And that will save the document to your FTM file, but it's not what you're looking for. I swear that what I want used to work with a web search initiated by clicking on a green leaf. It found an SAR App file in a large file of them, of which I want two pages. Until recently I was able to save an image copy of each page, from inside the FTM window. It seems that they have disabled that (which may have been right click save image as... which now is not a given option... or when it is it doesn't work). > The Save to Computer option is available only if you go to Ancestry.com via your web browser. It is completely separate from FTM. So you are saying: - Use the green leaf to discover the document image in FTM. - Fire up Ancestry.com in my browser in another window. - Do the identical search that the green leaf just did and hope that I can mimic it exactly enough to find the record outside of FTM which no longer can do what I need it to do. - Display the image of the record I want in the browser - Find the "Save to my computer..." button (that I still am not sure exists there...) If that is what you are saying, this is ridiculous! (and if I have to guess, it will have the same problem at downloading the second page of the two page record inside a many page document). Give me the right-click "Save Image..." back. Frankly, I'm not sure how they manage to disable that. They must have tried very hard to break it. John > > I hope that answers your question, > > Judy in Ocala > > > >> On Mar 3, 2015, at 11:15 AM, John Yates via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> >> All I know is that I have until this latest FTM Mac 3 version been able >> to save a record image to my computer in a LOCAL DISK FILE. It may have >> been with right-click save image. But even that is missing, or when >> it does appear it saves an empty or corrupted file. >> >> I saved the image to shoebox. Shoebox is not described in the FTM >> Manual. I googled and it seems it is only available on ancesty.com . >> I went there. Found shoebox at the bottom of the page. I clicked >> on the record I want to save TO MY COMPUTER. >> >> First, I clicked on VIEW. The SAVE button merely offers that it is in >> my shoebox, and the other option is to SAVE TO PERSON IN MY TREE. >> This is the ONLINE TREE where it is useless to me. >> >> Second, I click on VIEW. There is the image I want to download to >> A FILE ON MY COMPUTER. >> >> I click on SAVE. It offers that it is in my shoebox or I can save it >> to a person in my tree. No good for me. >> >> Then I right-clicked. Save Image As... displays (an is probably the >> way I got these before). However, Ancestry has done something to >> prevent the actual image from saving. It is a garbage, empty file. >> I tried using Firefox and Chrome browsers. Same nonsense. >> >> Now, would someone care to tell me where the "Save to Computer" >> option went, and when it will be back? >> >> (I've cc-ed this one to Ancestry Support). >> >> John >> >>> On 3/3/2015 8:06 AM, H R Worthington wrote: >>> John, >>> >>> Save to computer has not been with us since FTM2008 and the first Mac >>> version >>> >>> As I said before, Save to Computer or Save to Shoebox is from the Web Site. >>> >>> I didn't say anything about online trees. >>> >>> Go to the record you want, and you will see the Shoebox or Save to >>> Computer option. >>> >>> Russ >>> ___________________________ >>> >>> Mailto:rworthington@att.net >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> *From:* John Yates via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> >>> *To:* "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 3, 2015 1:51 AM >>> *Subject:* Re: [FTM-TECH] FTM 3 22.2.4.781 lost feature >>> >>> No, "Save to Computer" is not in the latest version of FTM 3. >>> >>> Why not? >>> >>> I have no use for on line trees. >>> >>> John >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 3/2/2015 10:42 PM, H R Worthington wrote: >>>> John, >>>> >>>> Those features are on the WEb Site and in FTM-3. >>>> >>>> Russ >>>> ___________________________ >>>> >>>> Mailto:rworthington@att.net <mailto:rworthington@att.net> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> *From:* John Yates via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com >>> <mailto:ftm-tech@rootsweb.com>> >>>> *To:* "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com <mailto:ftm-tech@rootsweb.com>" >>> <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com <mailto:ftm-tech@rootsweb.com>> >>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2015 9:33 PM >>>> *Subject:* [FTM-TECH] FTM 3 22.2.4.781 lost feature >>>> >>>> Where is "Save to Computer" in Web Search -> Save ? >>>> All I get is: >>>> Save to person in your tree >>>> Save to my shoebox >>> ********************************** >>> List information page >>> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com <mailto:FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com> >>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the >>> body of the message >> ********************************** >> List information page >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Chris, IF you go to Select a Source Template, I guess you selected Archives and Artifacts for the Category What did you select for the Template ? Russ ___________________________ Mailto:rworthington@att.net

Christine, Using the words from Geoff Rasmussen, huh? But what do you have in the Citation Detail field? anything in the Citation Text field? What does the Reference Note look like? Russ ________________________ Mailto:rworthington@att.net ________________________________ From: Chris Bauman via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 2:34 PM Subject: [FTM-TECH] Source template output problem I'm in the process of "re-doing" all the sources in my file(s), using the Templates to keep the sources consistent. I would like the end results to follow the parameters in Evidence Explained . This morning I'm working on a wedding invitation I have. I chose the Artifact (Private Holding) template, but I'm perturbed that the reference note created doesn't follow the reference note format in EE . In the Edit Source screen, I originally put my Surname and Forenames (for compiler) in the appropriate fields (Surname is required), and a title (wedding invitation) in the Artifact Type, plus myself and my address in the other fields. The Source gets created and shows up in the Source Bibliography leading with me as the compiler (which is ok). But the reference note lists compiler name first, followed by the artifact type, with the rest of the information correct. Page 139 of EE indicates the reference note should begin with the Artifact Type, followed by Surname & Forename (or a collection name), and the rest of the info. But FTM (2014, build 1345 running on Windows 7) creates the Reference Note those items reversed. If I change the Surname field to "Bauman Family Collection" it reads a little better, but obviously that still doesn't change the order. I realize I can rework the reference note wording, but I don't want to/shouldn't have to do that each time I use that source--it could be weeks or months between the times I'm entering an artifact like that, and I don't want to have to remember to reword it every time. Has anyone reported this as a problem? Or found a different Template that will put the Reference note in the right sequence? Thanks! Christine, IBSSG Life's short . . . do genealogy first! ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I now tried the Merge business. I displayed the record I wanted, went through Merge, allowing FTM to pollute my person record with its nonsense, and sure enough it did save the media image of the page. Next test will be to uncheck everything so it doesn't pollute my person records and see if the media still is saved. But, I had to discover where the media was saved in the FTM tree in order to copy it to where I want it on my computer. So many unnecessary steps! When will "SAVE TO MY COMPUTER" be brought back???? However, there is now another fatal problem. The document I found and want to save is a part of a many page document. So the merge save saved only the first page of what I want. So I clicked the right arrow for the second page. Went through the merge again. It saved the previous page again!!!!! Not the page that was displaying. Not the page that I needed. I repeat, when will they bring back "SAVE TO MY COMPUTER" which worked fine for me until recently? The only thing I have been able to do is to display the image on as much real estate of my 25" screen as possible and do an Apple Screen Capture. Thank you Apple!!!! This, of course, works fine for both pages. But resolution suffers some. And this would not be necessary if they would just bring back "SAVE TO MY COMPUTER". Why does Ancestry leap backward sometimes with their "advances"? John On 3/3/2015 8:08 AM, H R Worthington wrote: > Web Merge is NOT for online tres. It is a Feature to merge RECORDS from > Ancestry or any other website, into FTM2014 or FTM-3. > > I have told you 3 times out to save an image directly to your computer, > from the website with your browser.. > > Russ > ___________________________ > > Mailto:rworthington@att.net > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* John Yates via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> > *To:* "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 3, 2015 1:52 AM > *Subject:* Re: [FTM-TECH] FTM 3 22.2.4.781 lost feature > > Web Merge is to an on line tree, yes? I do not have an on line > tree. > > How do I save the images, etc. directly to my computer? > > John > > > > On 3/2/2015 10:43 PM, H R Worthington wrote: > > John, > > > > The Web Merge will include an Image. > > > > Russ > > ___________________________ > > > > Mailto:rworthington@att.net <mailto:rworthington@att.net> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* John Yates via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com > <mailto:ftm-tech@rootsweb.com>> > > *To:* "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com <mailto:ftm-tech@rootsweb.com>" > <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com <mailto:ftm-tech@rootsweb.com>> > > *Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2015 9:33 PM > > *Subject:* [FTM-TECH] FTM 3 22.2.4.781 lost feature > > > > Where is "Save to Computer" in Web Search -> Save ? > > All I get is: > > Save to person in your tree > > Save to my shoebox > > > > Neither of these is useful to me. > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com <mailto:FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com> > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > body of the message > >

John, if you are accessing Ancestry.com documents via FTM, you will not have the Save to Computer feature. You can merge the document to your FTM file, but that is all. And that will save the document to your FTM file, but it's not what you're looking for. The Save to Computer option is available only if you go to Ancestry.com via your web browser. It is completely separate from FTM. I hope that answers your question, Judy in Ocala > On Mar 3, 2015, at 11:15 AM, John Yates via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > All I know is that I have until this latest FTM Mac 3 version been able > to save a record image to my computer in a LOCAL DISK FILE. It may have > been with right-click save image. But even that is missing, or when > it does appear it saves an empty or corrupted file. > > I saved the image to shoebox. Shoebox is not described in the FTM > Manual. I googled and it seems it is only available on ancesty.com . > I went there. Found shoebox at the bottom of the page. I clicked > on the record I want to save TO MY COMPUTER. > > First, I clicked on VIEW. The SAVE button merely offers that it is in > my shoebox, and the other option is to SAVE TO PERSON IN MY TREE. > This is the ONLINE TREE where it is useless to me. > > Second, I click on VIEW. There is the image I want to download to > A FILE ON MY COMPUTER. > > I click on SAVE. It offers that it is in my shoebox or I can save it > to a person in my tree. No good for me. > > Then I right-clicked. Save Image As... displays (an is probably the > way I got these before). However, Ancestry has done something to > prevent the actual image from saving. It is a garbage, empty file. > I tried using Firefox and Chrome browsers. Same nonsense. > > Now, would someone care to tell me where the "Save to Computer" > option went, and when it will be back? > > (I've cc-ed this one to Ancestry Support). > > John > >> On 3/3/2015 8:06 AM, H R Worthington wrote: >> John, >> >> Save to computer has not been with us since FTM2008 and the first Mac >> version >> >> As I said before, Save to Computer or Save to Shoebox is from the Web Site. >> >> I didn't say anything about online trees. >> >> Go to the record you want, and you will see the Shoebox or Save to >> Computer option. >> >> Russ >> ___________________________ >> >> Mailto:rworthington@att.net >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From:* John Yates via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> >> *To:* "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 3, 2015 1:51 AM >> *Subject:* Re: [FTM-TECH] FTM 3 22.2.4.781 lost feature >> >> No, "Save to Computer" is not in the latest version of FTM 3. >> >> Why not? >> >> I have no use for on line trees. >> >> John >> >> >> >>> On 3/2/2015 10:42 PM, H R Worthington wrote: >>> John, >>> >>> Those features are on the WEb Site and in FTM-3. >>> >>> Russ >>> ___________________________ >>> >>> Mailto:rworthington@att.net <mailto:rworthington@att.net> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> *From:* John Yates via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com >> <mailto:ftm-tech@rootsweb.com>> >>> *To:* "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com <mailto:ftm-tech@rootsweb.com>" >> <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com <mailto:ftm-tech@rootsweb.com>> >>> *Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2015 9:33 PM >>> *Subject:* [FTM-TECH] FTM 3 22.2.4.781 lost feature >>> >>> Where is "Save to Computer" in Web Search -> Save ? >>> All I get is: >>> Save to person in your tree >>> Save to my shoebox >> ********************************** >> List information page >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com <mailto:FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com> >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the >> body of the message > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

All I know is that I have until this latest FTM Mac 3 version been able to save a record image to my computer in a LOCAL DISK FILE. It may have been with right-click save image. But even that is missing, or when it does appear it saves an empty or corrupted file. I saved the image to shoebox. Shoebox is not described in the FTM Manual. I googled and it seems it is only available on ancesty.com . I went there. Found shoebox at the bottom of the page. I clicked on the record I want to save TO MY COMPUTER. First, I clicked on VIEW. The SAVE button merely offers that it is in my shoebox, and the other option is to SAVE TO PERSON IN MY TREE. This is the ONLINE TREE where it is useless to me. Second, I click on VIEW. There is the image I want to download to A FILE ON MY COMPUTER. I click on SAVE. It offers that it is in my shoebox or I can save it to a person in my tree. No good for me. Then I right-clicked. Save Image As... displays (an is probably the way I got these before). However, Ancestry has done something to prevent the actual image from saving. It is a garbage, empty file. I tried using Firefox and Chrome browsers. Same nonsense. Now, would someone care to tell me where the "Save to Computer" option went, and when it will be back? (I've cc-ed this one to Ancestry Support). John On 3/3/2015 8:06 AM, H R Worthington wrote: > John, > > Save to computer has not been with us since FTM2008 and the first Mac > version > > As I said before, Save to Computer or Save to Shoebox is from the Web Site. > > I didn't say anything about online trees. > > Go to the record you want, and you will see the Shoebox or Save to > Computer option. > > Russ > ___________________________ > > Mailto:rworthington@att.net > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* John Yates via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> > *To:* "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 3, 2015 1:51 AM > *Subject:* Re: [FTM-TECH] FTM 3 22.2.4.781 lost feature > > No, "Save to Computer" is not in the latest version of FTM 3. > > Why not? > > I have no use for on line trees. > > John > > > > On 3/2/2015 10:42 PM, H R Worthington wrote: > > John, > > > > Those features are on the WEb Site and in FTM-3. > > > > Russ > > ___________________________ > > > > Mailto:rworthington@att.net <mailto:rworthington@att.net> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* John Yates via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com > <mailto:ftm-tech@rootsweb.com>> > > *To:* "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com <mailto:ftm-tech@rootsweb.com>" > <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com <mailto:ftm-tech@rootsweb.com>> > > *Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2015 9:33 PM > > *Subject:* [FTM-TECH] FTM 3 22.2.4.781 lost feature > > > > Where is "Save to Computer" in Web Search -> Save ? > > All I get is: > > Save to person in your tree > > Save to my shoebox > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com <mailto:FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com> > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > body of the message > >

John, I am NOT a Mac user. I think the issue is that things were changed at Ancestry. I even with my Windows version have the same issue that you are having with then Mac version. There is this same issue when just browsing Ancestry using one's browser. So it is an issue with Ancestry.com not FTM. When you are on the internet using your normal browser, how do you save an image to your computer? On a windows system using IE, all one needs to do is Right click the image and select "Save Picture as", and one is given the File Save pane, which one can change the location, names and a few other options before the save is made. If you were to do the same thing within FTM Mac 3 version while viewing the image that you want to save to your local machine, it should work. Thanks, David C Abernathy Email disclaimers ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message represents the official view of the voices in my head. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.SchmeckAbernathy.com == All outgoing and incoming mail is scanned by F-Prot Antivirus  == -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Yates via Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 8:15 AM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] FTM 3 22.2.4.781 lost feature All I know is that I have until this latest FTM Mac 3 version been able to save a record image to my computer in a LOCAL DISK FILE. It may have been with right-click save image. But even that is missing, or when it does appear it saves an empty or corrupted file. I saved the image to shoebox. Shoebox is not described in the FTM Manual. I googled and it seems it is only available on ancesty.com . I went there. Found shoebox at the bottom of the page. I clicked on the record I want to save TO MY COMPUTER. First, I clicked on VIEW. The SAVE button merely offers that it is in my shoebox, and the other option is to SAVE TO PERSON IN MY TREE. This is the ONLINE TREE where it is useless to me. Second, I click on VIEW. There is the image I want to download to A FILE ON MY COMPUTER. I click on SAVE. It offers that it is in my shoebox or I can save it to a person in my tree. No good for me. Then I right-clicked. Save Image As... displays (an is probably the way I got these before). However, Ancestry has done something to prevent the actual image from saving. It is a garbage, empty file. I tried using Firefox and Chrome browsers. Same nonsense. Now, would someone care to tell me where the "Save to Computer" option went, and when it will be back? (I've cc-ed this one to Ancestry Support). John On 3/3/2015 8:06 AM, H R Worthington wrote: > John, > > Save to computer has not been with us since FTM2008 and the first Mac > version > > As I said before, Save to Computer or Save to Shoebox is from the Web Site. > > I didn't say anything about online trees. > > Go to the record you want, and you will see the Shoebox or Save to > Computer option. > > Russ > ___________________________ > > Mailto:rworthington@att.net > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > *From:* John Yates via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> > *To:* "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 3, 2015 1:51 AM > *Subject:* Re: [FTM-TECH] FTM 3 22.2.4.781 lost feature > > No, "Save to Computer" is not in the latest version of FTM 3. > > Why not? > > I have no use for on line trees. > > John > > > > On 3/2/2015 10:42 PM, H R Worthington wrote: > > John, > > > > Those features are on the WEb Site and in FTM-3. > > > > Russ > > ___________________________ > > > > Mailto:rworthington@att.net <mailto:rworthington@att.net> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > *From:* John Yates via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com > <mailto:ftm-tech@rootsweb.com>> > *To:* "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com > <mailto:ftm-tech@rootsweb.com>" > <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com <mailto:ftm-tech@rootsweb.com>> > *Sent:* > Monday, March 2, 2015 9:33 PM > *Subject:* [FTM-TECH] FTM 3 > 22.2.4.781 lost feature > > Where is "Save to Computer" in Web > Search -> Save ? > > All I get is: > > Save to person in your tree > > Save to my shoebox > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com <mailto:FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com> > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > body of the message > > ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

John, Judy just said what I have been trying to say. I just went to Ancestry.com, found an Image I wanted to Save to My computer. It was NOT in Family Tree Maker, but from my Browser, as Judy suggested. When I selected that Image, In the Upper right of my Browser was an bright orange SAVE button. The option was to Save to My Computer. I saw it download to my computer. I found that image on my computer, double clicked on it, and that image opened as expected. Please try that. Thank you, Russ ___________________________ Mailto:rworthington@att.net ________________________________ From: John Yates via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> To: "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 11:15 AM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] FTM 3 22.2.4.781 lost feature All I know is that I have until this latest FTM Mac 3 version been able to save a record image to my computer in a LOCAL DISK FILE. It may have been with right-click save image. But even that is missing, or when it does appear it saves an empty or corrupted file. I saved the image to shoebox. Shoebox is not described in the FTM Manual. I googled and it seems it is only available on ancesty.com . I went there. Found shoebox at the bottom of the page. I clicked on the record I want to save TO MY COMPUTER. First, I clicked on VIEW. The SAVE button merely offers that it is in my shoebox, and the other option is to SAVE TO PERSON IN MY TREE. This is the ONLINE TREE where it is useless to me. Second, I click on VIEW. There is the image I want to download to A FILE ON MY COMPUTER. I click on SAVE. It offers that it is in my shoebox or I can save it to a person in my tree. No good for me. Then I right-clicked. Save Image As... displays (an is probably the way I got these before). However, Ancestry has done something to prevent the actual image from saving. It is a garbage, empty file. I tried using Firefox and Chrome browsers. Same nonsense. Now, would someone care to tell me where the "Save to Computer" option went, and when it will be back?

John, The Shoe box in on the Ancestry.com website. You download your shoebox file to your computer. Russ ___________________________ Mailto:rworthington@att.net ________________________________ From: John Yates via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> To: "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 11:15 AM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] FTM 3 22.2.4.781 lost feature All I know is that I have until this latest FTM Mac 3 version been able to save a record image to my computer in a LOCAL DISK FILE. It may have been with right-click save image. But even that is missing, or when it does appear it saves an empty or corrupted file. I saved the image to shoebox. Shoebox is not described in the FTM Manual. I googled and it seems it is only available on ancesty.com . I went there. Found shoebox at the bottom of the page. I clicked on the record I want to save TO MY COMPUTER. First, I clicked on VIEW. The SAVE button merely offers that it is in my shoebox, and the other option is to SAVE TO PERSON IN MY TREE. This is the ONLINE TREE where it is useless to me. Second, I click on VIEW. There is the image I want to download to A FILE ON MY COMPUTER. I click on SAVE. It offers that it is in my shoebox or I can save it to a person in my tree. No good for me. Then I right-clicked. Save Image As... displays (an is probably the way I got these before). However, Ancestry has done something to prevent the actual image from saving. It is a garbage, empty file. I tried using Firefox and Chrome browsers. Same nonsense. Now, would someone care to tell me where the "Save to Computer" option went, and when it will be back?

Web Merge is NOT for online tres. It is a Feature to merge RECORDS from Ancestry or any other website, into FTM2014 or FTM-3. I have told you 3 times out to save an image directly to your computer, from the website with your browser.. Russ ___________________________ Mailto:rworthington@att.net ________________________________ From: John Yates via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> To: "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 1:52 AM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] FTM 3 22.2.4.781 lost feature Web Merge is to an on line tree, yes? I do not have an on line tree. How do I save the images, etc. directly to my computer? John On 3/2/2015 10:43 PM, H R Worthington wrote: > John, > > The Web Merge will include an Image. > > Russ > ___________________________ > > Mailto:rworthington@att.net > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* John Yates via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> > *To:* "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> > *Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2015 9:33 PM > *Subject:* [FTM-TECH] FTM 3 22.2.4.781 lost feature > > Where is "Save to Computer" in Web Search -> Save ? > All I get is: > Save to person in your tree > Save to my shoebox > > Neither of these is useful to me. ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

John, Save to computer has not been with us since FTM2008 and the first Mac version As I said before, Save to Computer or Save to Shoebox is from the Web Site. I didn't say anything about online trees. Go to the record you want, and you will see the Shoebox or Save to Computer option. Russ ___________________________ Mailto:rworthington@att.net ________________________________ From: John Yates via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> To: "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 1:51 AM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] FTM 3 22.2.4.781 lost feature No, "Save to Computer" is not in the latest version of FTM 3. Why not? I have no use for on line trees. John On 3/2/2015 10:42 PM, H R Worthington wrote: > John, > > Those features are on the WEb Site and in FTM-3. > > Russ > ___________________________ > > Mailto:rworthington@att.net > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* John Yates via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> > *To:* "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> > *Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2015 9:33 PM > *Subject:* [FTM-TECH] FTM 3 22.2.4.781 lost feature > > Where is "Save to Computer" in Web Search -> Save ? > All I get is: > Save to person in your tree > Save to my shoebox ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Web Merge is to an on line tree, yes? I do not have an on line tree. How do I save the images, etc. directly to my computer? John On 3/2/2015 10:43 PM, H R Worthington wrote: > John, > > The Web Merge will include an Image. > > Russ > ___________________________ > > Mailto:rworthington@att.net > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* John Yates via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> > *To:* "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> > *Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2015 9:33 PM > *Subject:* [FTM-TECH] FTM 3 22.2.4.781 lost feature > > Where is "Save to Computer" in Web Search -> Save ? > All I get is: > Save to person in your tree > Save to my shoebox > > Neither of these is useful to me.

No, "Save to Computer" is not in the latest version of FTM 3. Why not? I have no use for on line trees. John On 3/2/2015 10:42 PM, H R Worthington wrote: > John, > > Those features are on the WEb Site and in FTM-3. > > Russ > ___________________________ > > Mailto:rworthington@att.net > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* John Yates via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> > *To:* "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> > *Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2015 9:33 PM > *Subject:* [FTM-TECH] FTM 3 22.2.4.781 lost feature > > Where is "Save to Computer" in Web Search -> Save ? > All I get is: > Save to person in your tree > Save to my shoebox