I'm having a senior moment. I'm using FTM 2014 How do I open up the edit sreen that allows me to place descriptive info in a box *before* the Place info. Thanks tom Herson Ithaca, NY

I believe you are talking about the "Place Detail" which allows you to input historical or cemetery information before the Place Name. It allows one to input the information and require it to be in the PNA. You can then resolve the balance of the Place Name. If this is what you are asking, there are two places where you can access this feature. 1. Go to the Place field for any fact on the Tree or Person work areas. Click on the Place field. An icon of a pencil will be displayed. Click on that icon and a dialog box will open allowing you to shift the descriptive information into the Place Detail field and to resolve the remainder of the place name. 2. Alternately, you may go to the Places work area. Select the Place Name from the list. In the right panel, click on the place name and the non-resolved icon with a scroll and question mark will be displayed, Click on the icon and a dialog box opens allowing you to shift the information to the Place detail and resolve the balance of the Place name. If the Place name has previously been resolved, the icon will be a pencil. Hope this helps. BJ On 3/24/2015 8:24 AM, Tom Herson via wrote: > I'm having a senior moment. > > I'm using FTM 2014 > > How do I open up the edit sreen that allows me to place descriptive > info in a box *before* the Place info. > > Thanks > > tom Herson > Ithaca, NY > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Sounds like the 22 persons may be adopted or a non-biological relationship? Please read these articles http://help.ancestry.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5207/kw/Preferred%20Parents http://help.ancestry.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5539/kw/preferred%20parents Also in FTM In-program help in the Help Index use 'adopted' FTM advises Preferred Parents The Preferred Parents dialog box lets you set up the default preferred relationship between parents and an individual. It presents a list of parents so you can select the couple to consider as "preferred." For example, if you are following the line of an adopted person, you have two lines you can follow, the biological line or the adoptive line. Depending on your intentions, you may want the biological parents to always be listed as the person's parents. The following table describes the options in the Preferred Parents dialog box. Options Description Select preferred parents Lists all of the parental relationships available for the person. Update pedigree now Updates the pedigree to show the person as a child to the preferred parents. To open the Preferred Parents dialog box: Click People > Person > Relationships > select the person in the Pedigree Navigation Bar > select a father or mother in the Relationships view > Change. And have a look at pages 54~55 in the Companion Guide John D -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of rewolf4 via Sent: Monday, 23 March 2015 12:15 PM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: [FTM-TECH] Preferred Parents I am using FTM 2014 and recently I ran a Data Errors Report which showed 22 persons who "do not have a preferred parent set". I have no idea what this means or how to fix it. In one or two instances I found the children were not shown as having a parent. However, when I went to the parent, all the children were there. Any suggestions?? rewolf4 **********************************

rewolf4, You need to be looking at the Relationship Tab, in the People Workspace, Person View. Russ ___________________________ Mailto:rworthington@att.net From: rewolf4 via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 9:15 PM Subject: [FTM-TECH] Preferred Parents I am using FTM 2014 and recently I ran a Data Errors Report which showed 22 persons who "do not have a preferred parent set".  I have no idea what this means or how to fix it.  In one or two instances I found the children were not shown as having a parent.  However, when I went to the parent, all the children were there.  Any suggestions?? rewolf4 ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am using FTM 2014 and recently I ran a Data Errors Report which showed 22 persons who "do not have a preferred parent set". I have no idea what this means or how to fix it. In one or two instances I found the children were not shown as having a parent. However, when I went to the parent, all the children were there. Any suggestions?? rewolf4

On 3/11/2015 8:55 AM, H R Worthington wrote: > Simple answer. DETACH the person from the Wrong Relationship. People > Workspace, Person View, Person, Menu, Detach. Thanks Russ. I had done the detach, but I'm still having some problems. > Did you look at the Companion Guide in the Help Menu? No. I will do so before continuing this thread.

> There are other ways to achieve the same purpose, but I suspect the > described method will be easiest. Thank you John. I guessed that was probably the only "easy" way. :-) :-) Another way I have employed before, when I felt lazier, was to Privatize the file, but IMHO that defeats the purpose. It only privatizes Living folks, but it might work for your needs as the recipient would know their own data anyway. John

On 3/11/2015 1:20 PM, John Okerson wrote: > There are other ways to achieve the same purpose, but I suspect the > described method will be easiest. Thank you John. I guessed that was probably the only "easy" way. :-) :-)

I don't understand why the address field is not used for Address, at least you can put a date with the address since most people don't live in the same place their whole life. Mary Ellis On 3/11/2015 11:01 AM, rewolf4 via wrote: > The format for the PNA is City, County, State (All spelled out) and > USA. Anything else added to the Place position will create a whole new > place. You also get the "Resolve Place Name" drop down menu asking if > you want to change all other place names that start with the same City, > County, State, & USA. I put the address in the Description position and > when you review the entry in the "Person View", it shows City, County, > State, USA and then the address. There is plenty of room in the > Description to handle the problem previously mentioned of different > county or zip code. Just my way of doing things!! > > rewolf4 > > On 3/11/2015 12:00 AM, ftm-tech-request@rootsweb.com wrote: >> ********************************** >> List information page >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html >> >> Version 2008-2014 >> http://ftm.custhelp.com/ >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Resolving Place Names (Jim Hoke) >> 2. Re: Resolving Place Names (Chris Bauman) >> 3. Re: Resolving Place Names (H R Worthington) >> 4. Re: Resolving Place Names (Judy in Ocala) >> 5. Re: Resolving Place Names (Jim Hoke) >> 6. Re: Resolving Place Names (BJ) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2015 10:26:04 -0400 >> From: "Jim Hoke" <j12251225@gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving Place Names >> To: "FTM-TECH mailing list submission" <FTM-TECH@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <002301d05b3e$24f26630$6ed73290$@gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Since the discussion several weeks ago on resolving place names, I've been >> slowly working my way through my FTM database, revising the Residence >> entries and other location-related facts to be consistent with the Place >> Name Authority. One facet I'm still wrestling with is how best to enter >> U.S. Postal Service mailing addresses. >> >> >> >> The problem is that the USPS address might not clearly reflect the >> geographic location in terms of city or township. For example, a sample >> address in our area is 2401 Cavendish Drive, Alexandria, VA 22308. Not only >> is that address not located in Alexandria, it is in a different county from >> Alexandria, namely Fairfax County. Similarly the USPS address can indicate >> a city or town that is not in the same township as the location designated >> by that address. Thus, the Place Name Authority cannot accurately reflect >> the location for the USPS address. >> >> >> >> At this point one option I have considered for entering USPS addresses is by >> using just the Description portion of the Address fact. Putting the USPS >> address in the Place portion of the Address fact creates a PNA conflict. I >> guess another option is to put the entire USPS address (including street >> number, street name, city, state, and zip code) in the Description portion >> of a Residence fact. >> >> >> >> Any suggestions on a better approach would be greatly appreciated. >> >> Jim Hoke >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> >> >> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 18:08:30 +0000 (UTC) >> >> From: Drew DUBLER <drew@drucifer.net> >> >> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving Place Names >> >> To: Debbie <growingatree@hotmail.com>, "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" >> >> <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> >> >> Message-ID: >> >> <930359453.951713.1424974110669.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> >> >> >> I use RESIDENCE for Town, County, State, Country. I use ADDRESS for Street. >> I use POSTAL CODE for Zip Code. I use CENSUS for Wards, Assembly Districts. >> >> . >> >> I'm thinking of adding BUILDING NUMBER as I have lots of families living on >> the same block in New York City. >> >> ?Drew >> >> Cold Spring, Putnam Co., NY >> >> O|||||||O >> >> Modeling the New York Central in N Scale and Trainz >> >> Backyard Birding & Gardening in the New York Hudson Valley >> >> Genealogy HERLIHY, GOULDING, GREENE, LALIME & LENT, LYNT, van LENT >> >> Homepage: http://drucifer.net/index.html >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2015 15:26:46 +0000 (UTC) >> From: Chris Bauman <chris.bauman@comcast.net> >> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving Place Names >> To: Jim Hoke <j12251225@gmail.com>, ftm-tech@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: >> <1504012375.2590883.1426001206020.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >> >> Jim, >> I played around with a town in 2 counties. If I entered "address, city, state" then clicked resolve address, it obviously doesn't resolve. But if I click (in the resolve places window) the button to the left (arrow up), it moves the street address to the line above. Then it suggests my options, which includes both county choices. Choosing the correct one and clicking "replace" puts that one in. Back in the PERSON view, the address is kept in the location field. Looking at the PLACES view, I see drop down lists on the left. I get USA, then State, County, and City, with the street address below that. The map happened to place the thumbtack across the street, but I could move that to the correct location. >> >> Your situation is a little different due to Alexandria being an "independent city" in Virginia, but it's similar. If I put in your example the same way, and move up the street address, I get choices for both "Alexandria, Independent Cities, Virginia" and "Alexandria, Fairfax, Viriginia". Choosing Fairfax County places the thumbtack correctly on the map, and the drop-down list in PLACES view shows it correctly. But you DO lose the zip code. Although that could be entered in the description, I suppose. >> >> You are right, the PNA can't tell you automatically that the above address is in Fairfax County, but it can let you distinguish between the Independent City and the other areas named Alexandria. It's going to boil down to how you want the data stored in your file. Personally, I have the street address in the description field, and I don't worry about the zip code--but that's me. Having played around with it a bit, though, I may consider moving the address up to the location field--it's kind of neat to be able to pull up the map and see the points. On the other hand I don't know if I want ALL of that printing in charts and reports, or taking the time to enter shortened versions. I'll think about it a bit before making a move. >> >> I don't know if that helps you or not. Good luck in deciding how you want to handle it! >> >> Christine >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Jim Hoke via" <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> >> To: "FTM-TECH mailing list submission" <FTM-TECH@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 10:26:04 AM >> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving Place Names >> >> Since the discussion several weeks ago on resolving place names, I've been >> slowly working my way through my FTM database, revising the Residence >> entries and other location-related facts to be consistent with the Place >> Name Authority. One facet I'm still wrestling with is how best to enter >> U.S. Postal Service mailing addresses. >> >> >> >> The problem is that the USPS address might not clearly reflect the >> geographic location in terms of city or township. For example, a sample >> address in our area is 2401 Cavendish Drive, Alexandria, VA 22308. Not only >> is that address not located in Alexandria, it is in a different county from >> Alexandria, namely Fairfax County. Similarly the USPS address can indicate >> a city or town that is not in the same township as the location designated >> by that address. Thus, the Place Name Authority cannot accurately reflect >> the location for the USPS address. >> >> >> >> At this point one option I have considered for entering USPS addresses is by >> using just the Description portion of the Address fact. Putting the USPS >> address in the Place portion of the Address fact creates a PNA conflict. I >> guess another option is to put the entire USPS address (including street >> number, street name, city, state, and zip code) in the Description portion >> of a Residence fact. >> >> >> >> Any suggestions on a better approach would be greatly appreciated. >> >> Jim Hoke >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> >> >> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 18:08:30 +0000 (UTC) >> >> From: Drew DUBLER <drew@drucifer.net> >> >> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving Place Names >> >> To: Debbie <growingatree@hotmail.com>, "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" >> >> <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> >> >> Message-ID: >> >> <930359453.951713.1424974110669.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> >> >> >> I use RESIDENCE for Town, County, State, Country. I use ADDRESS for Street. >> I use POSTAL CODE for Zip Code. I use CENSUS for Wards, Assembly Districts. >> >> . >> >> I'm thinking of adding BUILDING NUMBER as I have lots of families living on >> the same block in New York City. >> >> ?Drew >> >> Cold Spring, Putnam Co., NY >> >> O|||||||O >> >> Modeling the New York Central in N Scale and Trainz >> >> Backyard Birding & Gardening in the New York Hudson Valley >> >> Genealogy HERLIHY, GOULDING, GREENE, LALIME & LENT, LYNT, van LENT >> >> Homepage: http://drucifer.net/index.html >> >> >> >> ********************************** >> List information page >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2015 08:36:00 -0700 >> From: H R Worthington <rworthington@att.net> >> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving Place Names >> To: Jim Hoke <j12251225@gmail.com>, "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" >> <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: >> <1426001760.3418.YahooMailNeo@web185303.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> Jim, >> >> Question: >> >> What are you using the USPS "address" for ? >> >> For my family research, I want to place the location on the Map in Family Tree Maker. So, to do that, I use the Place Name Authority format. >> >> In the ADDRESS Fact, I put the full street address. I don't care about the Zip Code. BUT, If I did, I would put that in the ADDRESS Fact Description field. Oh, and I mark ALL Address Facts as Private. >> >> In the Residence Fact, I do not include the street address. IF a Census Record gives me the Street and House Number, I put that into the Address Field, and just the City, County, State, Country in the rest of the Residence Fact. Yes, for Census Records, it's could be a double entry. But, for two or three purposes. >> >> I can time line the Address and Residence Fact >> >> I can see you all lived at an Address >> >> I can see all who had an event in a Place (City, County, State, Country) >> >> One users approach to your question. >> >> Russ >> >> >> >> ___________________________ >> >> Mailto:rworthington@att.net >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Jim Hoke via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> >> To: FTM-TECH mailing list submission <FTM-TECH@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 10:26 AM >> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving Place Names >> >> >> Since the discussion several weeks ago on resolving place names, I've been >> slowly working my way through my FTM database, revising the Residence >> entries and other location-related facts to be consistent with the Place >> Name Authority. One facet I'm still wrestling with is how best to enter >> U.S. Postal Service mailing addresses. >> >> >> >> The problem is that the USPS address might not clearly reflect the >> geographic location in terms of city or township. For example, a sample >> address in our area is 2401 Cavendish Drive, Alexandria, VA 22308. Not only >> is that address not located in Alexandria, it is in a different county from >> Alexandria, namely Fairfax County. Similarly the USPS address can indicate >> a city or town that is not in the same township as the location designated >> by that address. Thus, the Place Name Authority cannot accurately reflect >> the location for the USPS address. >> >> >> >> At this point one option I have considered for entering USPS addresses is by >> using just the Description portion of the Address fact. Putting the USPS >> address in the Place portion of the Address fact creates a PNA conflict. I >> guess another option is to put the entire USPS address (including street >> number, street name, city, state, and zip code) in the Description portion >> of a Residence fact. >> >> >> >> Any suggestions on a better approach would be greatly appreciated. >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2015 11:45:25 -0400 >> From: Judy in Ocala <treewright@gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving Place Names >> To: Chris Bauman <chris.bauman@comcast.net>, "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" >> <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <856461A1-21B0-4495-8692-C34346DB5BFB@gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> I enter shortened place names on the fly. If the report or chart I'm creating needs it, then I go back and do it. >> >> Judy in Ocala >> >> On Mar 10, 2015, at 11:26 AM, Chris Bauman via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> >> Jim, >> I played around with a town in 2 counties. If I entered "address, city, state" then clicked resolve address, it obviously doesn't resolve. But if I click (in the resolve places window) the button to the left (arrow up), it moves the street address to the line above. Then it suggests my options, which includes both county choices. Choosing the correct one and clicking "replace" puts that one in. Back in the PERSON view, the address is kept in the location field. Looking at the PLACES view, I see drop down lists on the left. I get USA, then State, County, and City, with the street address below that. The map happened to place the thumbtack across the street, but I could move that to the correct location. >> >> Your situation is a little different due to Alexandria being an "independent city" in Virginia, but it's similar. If I put in your example the same way, and move up the street address, I get choices for both "Alexandria, Independent Cities, Virginia" and "Alexandria, Fairfax, Viriginia". Choosing Fairfax County places the thumbtack correctly on the map, and the drop-down list in PLACES view shows it correctly. But you DO lose the zip code. Although that could be entered in the description, I suppose. >> >> You are right, the PNA can't tell you automatically that the above address is in Fairfax County, but it can let you distinguish between the Independent City and the other areas named Alexandria. It's going to boil down to how you want the data stored in your file. Personally, I have the street address in the description field, and I don't worry about the zip code--but that's me. Having played around with it a bit, though, I may consider moving the address up to the location field--it's kind of neat to be able to pull up the map and see the points. On the other hand I don't know if I want ALL of that printing in charts and reports, or taking the time to enter shortened versions. I'll think about it a bit before making a move. >> >> I don't know if that helps you or not. Good luck in deciding how you want to handle it! >> >> Christine >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Jim Hoke via" <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> >> To: "FTM-TECH mailing list submission" <FTM-TECH@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 10:26:04 AM >> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving Place Names >> >> Since the discussion several weeks ago on resolving place names, I've been >> slowly working my way through my FTM database, revising the Residence >> entries and other location-related facts to be consistent with the Place >> Name Authority. One facet I'm still wrestling with is how best to enter >> U.S. Postal Service mailing addresses. >> >> >> >> The problem is that the USPS address might not clearly reflect the >> geographic location in terms of city or township. For example, a sample >> address in our area is 2401 Cavendish Drive, Alexandria, VA 22308. Not only >> is that address not located in Alexandria, it is in a different county from >> Alexandria, namely Fairfax County. Similarly the USPS address can indicate >> a city or town that is not in the same township as the location designated >> by that address. Thus, the Place Name Authority cannot accurately reflect >> the location for the USPS address. >> >> >> >> At this point one option I have considered for entering USPS addresses is by >> using just the Description portion of the Address fact. Putting the USPS >> address in the Place portion of the Address fact creates a PNA conflict. I >> guess another option is to put the entire USPS address (including street >> number, street name, city, state, and zip code) in the Description portion >> of a Residence fact. >> >> >> >> Any suggestions on a better approach would be greatly appreciated. >> >> Jim Hoke >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> >> >> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 18:08:30 +0000 (UTC) >> >> From: Drew DUBLER <drew@drucifer.net> >> >> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving Place Names >> >> To: Debbie <growingatree@hotmail.com>, "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" >> >> <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> >> >> Message-ID: >> >> <930359453.951713.1424974110669.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> >> >> >> I use RESIDENCE for Town, County, State, Country. I use ADDRESS for Street. >> I use POSTAL CODE for Zip Code. I use CENSUS for Wards, Assembly Districts. >> >> . >> >> I'm thinking of adding BUILDING NUMBER as I have lots of families living on >> the same block in New York City. >> >> ?Drew >> >> Cold Spring, Putnam Co., NY >> >> O|||||||O >> >> Modeling the New York Central in N Scale and Trainz >> >> Backyard Birding & Gardening in the New York Hudson Valley >> >> Genealogy HERLIHY, GOULDING, GREENE, LALIME & LENT, LYNT, van LENT >> >> Homepage: http://drucifer.net/index.html >> >> >> >> ********************************** >> List information page >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ********************************** >> List information page >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2015 13:27:41 -0400 >> From: "Jim Hoke" <j12251225@gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving Place Names >> To: "FTM-TECH mailing list submission" <FTM-TECH@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <001001d05b57$83ffb4c0$8bff1e40$@gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Thanks, Russ and Christine, for the responses. In answer to your question, >> Russ, the main reason I enter addresses into my FTM database is simply to >> preserve that information in case it will be of some benefit to me or >> someone else in the future. I'm not doing it for any particular reason, >> such as to display the information on an FTM map, although certainly I do >> that when the need arises. I want the location information I enter into the >> FTM database to be consistent with the Place Name Authority, but not to lose >> its accuracy just to make it conform to limitations of the Place Name >> Authority. >> >> >> >> As an example, take a dwelling located at the USPS address of 285 Spring >> Street, State College, PA 16801. That dwelling is not located in State >> College, but in College Township, Centre Co., PA. Note that State College >> is also located in Centre Co., but it is not located in College Township. >> Russ, under the system you use, how would you enter the information for that >> dwelling into your database in a way that is compatible with the PNA? >> >> >> >> Thanks for the help, >> >> Jim Hoke >> >> >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ---- >> >> From: H R Worthington [mailto:rworthington@att.net] >> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 11:36 AM >> >> To: Jim Hoke; ftm-tech@rootsweb.com >> >> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving Place Names >> >> >> >> Jim, >> >> >> >> Question: >> >> >> >> What are you using the USPS "address" for ? >> >> >> >> For my family research, I want to place the location on the Map in Family >> Tree Maker. So, to do that, I use the Place Name Authority format. >> >> >> >> In the ADDRESS Fact, I put the full street address. I don't care about the >> Zip Code. BUT, If I did, I would put that in the ADDRESS Fact Description >> field. Oh, and I mark ALL Address Facts as Private. >> >> >> >> In the Residence Fact, I do not include the street address. IF a Census >> Record gives me the Street and House Number, I put that into the Address >> Field, and just the City, County, State, Country in the rest of the >> Residence Fact. Yes, for Census Records, it's could be a double entry. But, >> for two or three purposes. >> >> >> >> I can time line the Address and Residence Fact >> >> >> >> I can see you all lived at an Address >> >> >> >> I can see all who had an event in a Place (City, County, State, Country) >> >> >> >> One users approach to your question. >> >> >> >> Russ >> >> >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ---- >> >> From: Chris Bauman [mailto:chris.bauman@comcast.net] >> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 11:27 AM >> >> To: Jim Hoke; ftm-tech@rootsweb.com >> >> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving Place Names >> >> >> >> Jim, >> >> I played around with a town in 2 counties. If I entered "address, city, >> state" then clicked resolve address, it obviously doesn't resolve. But if I >> click (in the resolve places window) the button to the left (arrow up), it >> moves the street address to the line above. Then it suggests my options, >> which includes both county choices. Choosing the correct one and clicking >> "replace" puts that one in. Back in the PERSON view, the address is kept in >> the location field. Looking at the PLACES view, I see drop down lists on >> the left. I get USA, then State, County, and City, with the street address >> below that. The map happened to place the thumbtack across the street, but >> I could move that to the correct location. >> >> >> >> Your situation is a little different due to Alexandria being an "independent >> city" in Virginia, but it's similar. If I put in your example the same way, >> and move up the street address, I get choices for both "Alexandria, >> Independent Cities, Virginia" and "Alexandria, Fairfax, Virginia". Choosing >> Fairfax County places the thumbtack correctly on the map, and the drop-down >> list in PLACES view shows it correctly. But you DO lose the zip code. >> Although that could be entered in the description, I suppose. >> >> >> >> You are right, the PNA can't tell you automatically that the above address >> is in Fairfax County, but it can let you distinguish between the Independent >> City and the other areas named Alexandria. It's going to boil down to how >> you want the data stored in your file. Personally, I have the street >> address in the description field, and I don't worry about the zip code--but >> that's me. Having played around with it a bit, though, I may consider >> moving the address up to the location field--it's kind of neat to be able to >> pull up the map and see the points. On the other hand I don't know if I >> want ALL of that printing in charts and reports, or taking the time to enter >> shortened versions. I'll think about it a bit before making a move. >> >> >> >> I don't know if that helps you or not. Good luck in deciding how you want >> to handle it! >> >> >> >> Christine >> >> >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ---- >> >> From: Jim Hoke via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> >> >> To: FTM-TECH mailing list submission <FTM-TECH@rootsweb.com> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 10:26 AM >> >> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving Place Names >> >> >> >> Since the discussion several weeks ago on resolving place names, I've been >> >> slowly working my way through my FTM database, revising the Residence >> >> entries and other location-related facts to be consistent with the Place >> >> Name Authority. One facet I'm still wrestling with is how best to enter >> >> U.S. Postal Service mailing addresses. >> >> >> >> The problem is that the USPS address might not clearly reflect the >> >> geographic location in terms of city or township. For example, a sample >> >> address in our area is 2401 Cavendish Drive, Alexandria, VA 22308. Not only >> >> is that address not located in Alexandria, it is in a different county from >> >> Alexandria, namely Fairfax County. Similarly the USPS address can indicate >> >> a city or town that is not in the same township as the location designated >> >> by that address. Thus, the Place Name Authority cannot accurately reflect >> >> the location for the USPS address. >> >> >> >> At this point one option I have considered for entering USPS addresses is by >> >> using just the Description portion of the Address fact. Putting the USPS >> >> address in the Place portion of the Address fact creates a PNA conflict. I >> >> guess another option is to put the entire USPS address (including street >> >> number, street name, city, state, and zip code) in the Description portion >> >> of a Residence fact. >> >> >> >> Any suggestions on a better approach would be greatly appreciated. >> >> Jim Hoke >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 6 >> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2015 16:01:25 -0600 >> From: BJ <oldtrails@gmx.com> >> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving Place Names >> To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <54FF69B5.7050808@gmx.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed >> >> When I have a choice between the actual residence address vs the postal >> address, I use the residence address. The only time I will use the >> postal address is when I have no residential address. >> >> Not sure whether that helps of not. >> >> BJ >> >> On 3/10/2015 8:26 AM, Jim Hoke via wrote: >>> Since the discussion several weeks ago on resolving place names, I've been >>> slowly working my way through my FTM database, revising the Residence >>> entries and other location-related facts to be consistent with the Place >>> Name Authority. One facet I'm still wrestling with is how best to enter >>> U.S. Postal Service mailing addresses. >>> >>> >>> >>> The problem is that the USPS address might not clearly reflect the >>> geographic location in terms of city or township. For example, a sample >>> address in our area is 2401 Cavendish Drive, Alexandria, VA 22308. Not only >>> is that address not located in Alexandria, it is in a different county from >>> Alexandria, namely Fairfax County. Similarly the USPS address can indicate >>> a city or town that is not in the same township as the location designated >>> by that address. Thus, the Place Name Authority cannot accurately reflect >>> the location for the USPS address. >>> >>> >>> >>> At this point one option I have considered for entering USPS addresses is by >>> using just the Description portion of the Address fact. Putting the USPS >>> address in the Place portion of the Address fact creates a PNA conflict. I >>> guess another option is to put the entire USPS address (including street >>> number, street name, city, state, and zip code) in the Description portion >>> of a Residence fact. >>> >>> >>> >>> Any suggestions on a better approach would be greatly appreciated. >>> >>> Jim Hoke >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> >>> >>> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 18:08:30 +0000 (UTC) >>> >>> From: Drew DUBLER <drew@drucifer.net> >>> >>> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving Place Names >>> >>> To: Debbie <growingatree@hotmail.com>, "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" >>> >>> <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> >>> >>> Message-ID: >>> >>> <930359453.951713.1424974110669.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> >>> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >>> >>> >>> >>> I use RESIDENCE for Town, County, State, Country. I use ADDRESS for Street. >>> I use POSTAL CODE for Zip Code. I use CENSUS for Wards, Assembly Districts. >>> >>> . >>> >>> I'm thinking of adding BUILDING NUMBER as I have lots of families living on >>> the same block in New York City. >>> >>> ?Drew >>> >>> Cold Spring, Putnam Co., NY >>> >>> O|||||||O >>> >>> Modeling the New York Central in N Scale and Trainz >>> >>> Backyard Birding & Gardening in the New York Hudson Valley >>> >>> Genealogy HERLIHY, GOULDING, GREENE, LALIME & LENT, LYNT, van LENT >>> >>> Homepage: http://drucifer.net/index.html >>> >>> >>> >>> ********************************** >>> List information page >>> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> >> >> End of FTM-TECH Digest, Vol 9, Issue 45 >> *************************************** >> > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- If you don't know your family history, you are a leaf that doesn't know it is part of a tree. ~ Michael Crichton ~ Mary W. 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> I am working with autosomal DNA analysis, and I want to use a branch from my FTM2014 tree of our maternal 1st cousin and her ancestors. I exported the branch from FTM, but find that because we share common GPs, my mother and my siblings, children, etc., are all also included. How do I create a properly pruned branch showing only HER line? If you are using FTM 2014's Export Branch, you have what it selects for you. You COULD open the file and remove those who YOU do not wish to include. (This would be easier if you saved as Family Tree Maker format, NOT GEDCOM. If you need the data in GEDCOM because her program cannot read FTM files directly, once you edit the FTM, save it as GEDCOM and be done.) There are other ways to achieve the same purpose, but I suspect the described method will be easiest. John Okerson Lakeland, TN

The format for the PNA is City, County, State (All spelled out) and USA. Anything else added to the Place position will create a whole new place. You also get the "Resolve Place Name" drop down menu asking if you want to change all other place names that start with the same City, County, State, & USA. I put the address in the Description position and when you review the entry in the "Person View", it shows City, County, State, USA and then the address. There is plenty of room in the Description to handle the problem previously mentioned of different county or zip code. Just my way of doing things!! rewolf4 On 3/11/2015 12:00 AM, ftm-tech-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Version 2008-2014 > http://ftm.custhelp.com/ > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Resolving Place Names (Jim Hoke) > 2. Re: Resolving Place Names (Chris Bauman) > 3. Re: Resolving Place Names (H R Worthington) > 4. Re: Resolving Place Names (Judy in Ocala) > 5. Re: Resolving Place Names (Jim Hoke) > 6. Re: Resolving Place Names (BJ) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2015 10:26:04 -0400 > From: "Jim Hoke" <j12251225@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving Place Names > To: "FTM-TECH mailing list submission" <FTM-TECH@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <002301d05b3e$24f26630$6ed73290$@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Since the discussion several weeks ago on resolving place names, I've been > slowly working my way through my FTM database, revising the Residence > entries and other location-related facts to be consistent with the Place > Name Authority. One facet I'm still wrestling with is how best to enter > U.S. Postal Service mailing addresses. > > > > The problem is that the USPS address might not clearly reflect the > geographic location in terms of city or township. For example, a sample > address in our area is 2401 Cavendish Drive, Alexandria, VA 22308. Not only > is that address not located in Alexandria, it is in a different county from > Alexandria, namely Fairfax County. Similarly the USPS address can indicate > a city or town that is not in the same township as the location designated > by that address. Thus, the Place Name Authority cannot accurately reflect > the location for the USPS address. > > > > At this point one option I have considered for entering USPS addresses is by > using just the Description portion of the Address fact. Putting the USPS > address in the Place portion of the Address fact creates a PNA conflict. I > guess another option is to put the entire USPS address (including street > number, street name, city, state, and zip code) in the Description portion > of a Residence fact. > > > > Any suggestions on a better approach would be greatly appreciated. > > Jim Hoke > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 18:08:30 +0000 (UTC) > > From: Drew DUBLER <drew@drucifer.net> > > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving Place Names > > To: Debbie <growingatree@hotmail.com>, "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" > > <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> > > Message-ID: > > <930359453.951713.1424974110669.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > > I use RESIDENCE for Town, County, State, Country. I use ADDRESS for Street. > I use POSTAL CODE for Zip Code. I use CENSUS for Wards, Assembly Districts. > > . > > I'm thinking of adding BUILDING NUMBER as I have lots of families living on > the same block in New York City. > > ?Drew > > Cold Spring, Putnam Co., NY > > O|||||||O > > Modeling the New York Central in N Scale and Trainz > > Backyard Birding & Gardening in the New York Hudson Valley > > Genealogy HERLIHY, GOULDING, GREENE, LALIME & LENT, LYNT, van LENT > > Homepage: http://drucifer.net/index.html > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2015 15:26:46 +0000 (UTC) > From: Chris Bauman <chris.bauman@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving Place Names > To: Jim Hoke <j12251225@gmail.com>, ftm-tech@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <1504012375.2590883.1426001206020.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Jim, > I played around with a town in 2 counties. If I entered "address, city, state" then clicked resolve address, it obviously doesn't resolve. But if I click (in the resolve places window) the button to the left (arrow up), it moves the street address to the line above. Then it suggests my options, which includes both county choices. Choosing the correct one and clicking "replace" puts that one in. Back in the PERSON view, the address is kept in the location field. Looking at the PLACES view, I see drop down lists on the left. I get USA, then State, County, and City, with the street address below that. The map happened to place the thumbtack across the street, but I could move that to the correct location. > > Your situation is a little different due to Alexandria being an "independent city" in Virginia, but it's similar. If I put in your example the same way, and move up the street address, I get choices for both "Alexandria, Independent Cities, Virginia" and "Alexandria, Fairfax, Viriginia". Choosing Fairfax County places the thumbtack correctly on the map, and the drop-down list in PLACES view shows it correctly. But you DO lose the zip code. Although that could be entered in the description, I suppose. > > You are right, the PNA can't tell you automatically that the above address is in Fairfax County, but it can let you distinguish between the Independent City and the other areas named Alexandria. It's going to boil down to how you want the data stored in your file. Personally, I have the street address in the description field, and I don't worry about the zip code--but that's me. Having played around with it a bit, though, I may consider moving the address up to the location field--it's kind of neat to be able to pull up the map and see the points. On the other hand I don't know if I want ALL of that printing in charts and reports, or taking the time to enter shortened versions. I'll think about it a bit before making a move. > > I don't know if that helps you or not. Good luck in deciding how you want to handle it! > > Christine > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jim Hoke via" <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> > To: "FTM-TECH mailing list submission" <FTM-TECH@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 10:26:04 AM > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving Place Names > > Since the discussion several weeks ago on resolving place names, I've been > slowly working my way through my FTM database, revising the Residence > entries and other location-related facts to be consistent with the Place > Name Authority. One facet I'm still wrestling with is how best to enter > U.S. Postal Service mailing addresses. > > > > The problem is that the USPS address might not clearly reflect the > geographic location in terms of city or township. For example, a sample > address in our area is 2401 Cavendish Drive, Alexandria, VA 22308. Not only > is that address not located in Alexandria, it is in a different county from > Alexandria, namely Fairfax County. Similarly the USPS address can indicate > a city or town that is not in the same township as the location designated > by that address. Thus, the Place Name Authority cannot accurately reflect > the location for the USPS address. > > > > At this point one option I have considered for entering USPS addresses is by > using just the Description portion of the Address fact. Putting the USPS > address in the Place portion of the Address fact creates a PNA conflict. I > guess another option is to put the entire USPS address (including street > number, street name, city, state, and zip code) in the Description portion > of a Residence fact. > > > > Any suggestions on a better approach would be greatly appreciated. > > Jim Hoke > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 18:08:30 +0000 (UTC) > > From: Drew DUBLER <drew@drucifer.net> > > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving Place Names > > To: Debbie <growingatree@hotmail.com>, "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" > > <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> > > Message-ID: > > <930359453.951713.1424974110669.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > > I use RESIDENCE for Town, County, State, Country. I use ADDRESS for Street. > I use POSTAL CODE for Zip Code. I use CENSUS for Wards, Assembly Districts. > > . > > I'm thinking of adding BUILDING NUMBER as I have lots of families living on > the same block in New York City. > > ?Drew > > Cold Spring, Putnam Co., NY > > O|||||||O > > Modeling the New York Central in N Scale and Trainz > > Backyard Birding & Gardening in the New York Hudson Valley > > Genealogy HERLIHY, GOULDING, GREENE, LALIME & LENT, LYNT, van LENT > > Homepage: http://drucifer.net/index.html > > > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2015 08:36:00 -0700 > From: H R Worthington <rworthington@att.net> > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving Place Names > To: Jim Hoke <j12251225@gmail.com>, "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" > <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <1426001760.3418.YahooMailNeo@web185303.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Jim, > > Question: > > What are you using the USPS "address" for ? > > For my family research, I want to place the location on the Map in Family Tree Maker. So, to do that, I use the Place Name Authority format. > > In the ADDRESS Fact, I put the full street address. I don't care about the Zip Code. BUT, If I did, I would put that in the ADDRESS Fact Description field. Oh, and I mark ALL Address Facts as Private. > > In the Residence Fact, I do not include the street address. IF a Census Record gives me the Street and House Number, I put that into the Address Field, and just the City, County, State, Country in the rest of the Residence Fact. Yes, for Census Records, it's could be a double entry. But, for two or three purposes. > > I can time line the Address and Residence Fact > > I can see you all lived at an Address > > I can see all who had an event in a Place (City, County, State, Country) > > One users approach to your question. > > Russ > > > > ___________________________ > > Mailto:rworthington@att.net > > > ________________________________ > From: Jim Hoke via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> > To: FTM-TECH mailing list submission <FTM-TECH@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 10:26 AM > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving Place Names > > > Since the discussion several weeks ago on resolving place names, I've been > slowly working my way through my FTM database, revising the Residence > entries and other location-related facts to be consistent with the Place > Name Authority. One facet I'm still wrestling with is how best to enter > U.S. Postal Service mailing addresses. > > > > The problem is that the USPS address might not clearly reflect the > geographic location in terms of city or township. For example, a sample > address in our area is 2401 Cavendish Drive, Alexandria, VA 22308. Not only > is that address not located in Alexandria, it is in a different county from > Alexandria, namely Fairfax County. Similarly the USPS address can indicate > a city or town that is not in the same township as the location designated > by that address. Thus, the Place Name Authority cannot accurately reflect > the location for the USPS address. > > > > At this point one option I have considered for entering USPS addresses is by > using just the Description portion of the Address fact. Putting the USPS > address in the Place portion of the Address fact creates a PNA conflict. I > guess another option is to put the entire USPS address (including street > number, street name, city, state, and zip code) in the Description portion > of a Residence fact. > > > > Any suggestions on a better approach would be greatly appreciated. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2015 11:45:25 -0400 > From: Judy in Ocala <treewright@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving Place Names > To: Chris Bauman <chris.bauman@comcast.net>, "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" > <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <856461A1-21B0-4495-8692-C34346DB5BFB@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I enter shortened place names on the fly. If the report or chart I'm creating needs it, then I go back and do it. > > Judy in Ocala > > On Mar 10, 2015, at 11:26 AM, Chris Bauman via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Jim, > I played around with a town in 2 counties. If I entered "address, city, state" then clicked resolve address, it obviously doesn't resolve. But if I click (in the resolve places window) the button to the left (arrow up), it moves the street address to the line above. Then it suggests my options, which includes both county choices. Choosing the correct one and clicking "replace" puts that one in. Back in the PERSON view, the address is kept in the location field. Looking at the PLACES view, I see drop down lists on the left. I get USA, then State, County, and City, with the street address below that. The map happened to place the thumbtack across the street, but I could move that to the correct location. > > Your situation is a little different due to Alexandria being an "independent city" in Virginia, but it's similar. If I put in your example the same way, and move up the street address, I get choices for both "Alexandria, Independent Cities, Virginia" and "Alexandria, Fairfax, Viriginia". Choosing Fairfax County places the thumbtack correctly on the map, and the drop-down list in PLACES view shows it correctly. But you DO lose the zip code. Although that could be entered in the description, I suppose. > > You are right, the PNA can't tell you automatically that the above address is in Fairfax County, but it can let you distinguish between the Independent City and the other areas named Alexandria. It's going to boil down to how you want the data stored in your file. Personally, I have the street address in the description field, and I don't worry about the zip code--but that's me. Having played around with it a bit, though, I may consider moving the address up to the location field--it's kind of neat to be able to pull up the map and see the points. On the other hand I don't know if I want ALL of that printing in charts and reports, or taking the time to enter shortened versions. I'll think about it a bit before making a move. > > I don't know if that helps you or not. Good luck in deciding how you want to handle it! > > Christine > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jim Hoke via" <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> > To: "FTM-TECH mailing list submission" <FTM-TECH@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 10:26:04 AM > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving Place Names > > Since the discussion several weeks ago on resolving place names, I've been > slowly working my way through my FTM database, revising the Residence > entries and other location-related facts to be consistent with the Place > Name Authority. One facet I'm still wrestling with is how best to enter > U.S. Postal Service mailing addresses. > > > > The problem is that the USPS address might not clearly reflect the > geographic location in terms of city or township. For example, a sample > address in our area is 2401 Cavendish Drive, Alexandria, VA 22308. Not only > is that address not located in Alexandria, it is in a different county from > Alexandria, namely Fairfax County. Similarly the USPS address can indicate > a city or town that is not in the same township as the location designated > by that address. Thus, the Place Name Authority cannot accurately reflect > the location for the USPS address. > > > > At this point one option I have considered for entering USPS addresses is by > using just the Description portion of the Address fact. Putting the USPS > address in the Place portion of the Address fact creates a PNA conflict. I > guess another option is to put the entire USPS address (including street > number, street name, city, state, and zip code) in the Description portion > of a Residence fact. > > > > Any suggestions on a better approach would be greatly appreciated. > > Jim Hoke > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 18:08:30 +0000 (UTC) > > From: Drew DUBLER <drew@drucifer.net> > > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving Place Names > > To: Debbie <growingatree@hotmail.com>, "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" > > <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> > > Message-ID: > > <930359453.951713.1424974110669.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > > I use RESIDENCE for Town, County, State, Country. I use ADDRESS for Street. > I use POSTAL CODE for Zip Code. I use CENSUS for Wards, Assembly Districts. > > . > > I'm thinking of adding BUILDING NUMBER as I have lots of families living on > the same block in New York City. > > ?Drew > > Cold Spring, Putnam Co., NY > > O|||||||O > > Modeling the New York Central in N Scale and Trainz > > Backyard Birding & Gardening in the New York Hudson Valley > > Genealogy HERLIHY, GOULDING, GREENE, LALIME & LENT, LYNT, van LENT > > Homepage: http://drucifer.net/index.html > > > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2015 13:27:41 -0400 > From: "Jim Hoke" <j12251225@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving Place Names > To: "FTM-TECH mailing list submission" <FTM-TECH@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <001001d05b57$83ffb4c0$8bff1e40$@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Thanks, Russ and Christine, for the responses. In answer to your question, > Russ, the main reason I enter addresses into my FTM database is simply to > preserve that information in case it will be of some benefit to me or > someone else in the future. I'm not doing it for any particular reason, > such as to display the information on an FTM map, although certainly I do > that when the need arises. I want the location information I enter into the > FTM database to be consistent with the Place Name Authority, but not to lose > its accuracy just to make it conform to limitations of the Place Name > Authority. > > > > As an example, take a dwelling located at the USPS address of 285 Spring > Street, State College, PA 16801. That dwelling is not located in State > College, but in College Township, Centre Co., PA. Note that State College > is also located in Centre Co., but it is not located in College Township. > Russ, under the system you use, how would you enter the information for that > dwelling into your database in a way that is compatible with the PNA? > > > > Thanks for the help, > > Jim Hoke > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > > From: H R Worthington [mailto:rworthington@att.net] > > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 11:36 AM > > To: Jim Hoke; ftm-tech@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving Place Names > > > > Jim, > > > > Question: > > > > What are you using the USPS "address" for ? > > > > For my family research, I want to place the location on the Map in Family > Tree Maker. So, to do that, I use the Place Name Authority format. > > > > In the ADDRESS Fact, I put the full street address. I don't care about the > Zip Code. BUT, If I did, I would put that in the ADDRESS Fact Description > field. Oh, and I mark ALL Address Facts as Private. > > > > In the Residence Fact, I do not include the street address. IF a Census > Record gives me the Street and House Number, I put that into the Address > Field, and just the City, County, State, Country in the rest of the > Residence Fact. Yes, for Census Records, it's could be a double entry. But, > for two or three purposes. > > > > I can time line the Address and Residence Fact > > > > I can see you all lived at an Address > > > > I can see all who had an event in a Place (City, County, State, Country) > > > > One users approach to your question. > > > > Russ > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > > From: Chris Bauman [mailto:chris.bauman@comcast.net] > > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 11:27 AM > > To: Jim Hoke; ftm-tech@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving Place Names > > > > Jim, > > I played around with a town in 2 counties. If I entered "address, city, > state" then clicked resolve address, it obviously doesn't resolve. But if I > click (in the resolve places window) the button to the left (arrow up), it > moves the street address to the line above. Then it suggests my options, > which includes both county choices. Choosing the correct one and clicking > "replace" puts that one in. Back in the PERSON view, the address is kept in > the location field. Looking at the PLACES view, I see drop down lists on > the left. I get USA, then State, County, and City, with the street address > below that. The map happened to place the thumbtack across the street, but > I could move that to the correct location. > > > > Your situation is a little different due to Alexandria being an "independent > city" in Virginia, but it's similar. If I put in your example the same way, > and move up the street address, I get choices for both "Alexandria, > Independent Cities, Virginia" and "Alexandria, Fairfax, Virginia". Choosing > Fairfax County places the thumbtack correctly on the map, and the drop-down > list in PLACES view shows it correctly. But you DO lose the zip code. > Although that could be entered in the description, I suppose. > > > > You are right, the PNA can't tell you automatically that the above address > is in Fairfax County, but it can let you distinguish between the Independent > City and the other areas named Alexandria. It's going to boil down to how > you want the data stored in your file. Personally, I have the street > address in the description field, and I don't worry about the zip code--but > that's me. Having played around with it a bit, though, I may consider > moving the address up to the location field--it's kind of neat to be able to > pull up the map and see the points. On the other hand I don't know if I > want ALL of that printing in charts and reports, or taking the time to enter > shortened versions. I'll think about it a bit before making a move. > > > > I don't know if that helps you or not. Good luck in deciding how you want > to handle it! > > > > Christine > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > > From: Jim Hoke via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> > > To: FTM-TECH mailing list submission <FTM-TECH@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 10:26 AM > > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving Place Names > > > > Since the discussion several weeks ago on resolving place names, I've been > > slowly working my way through my FTM database, revising the Residence > > entries and other location-related facts to be consistent with the Place > > Name Authority. One facet I'm still wrestling with is how best to enter > > U.S. Postal Service mailing addresses. > > > > The problem is that the USPS address might not clearly reflect the > > geographic location in terms of city or township. For example, a sample > > address in our area is 2401 Cavendish Drive, Alexandria, VA 22308. Not only > > is that address not located in Alexandria, it is in a different county from > > Alexandria, namely Fairfax County. Similarly the USPS address can indicate > > a city or town that is not in the same township as the location designated > > by that address. Thus, the Place Name Authority cannot accurately reflect > > the location for the USPS address. > > > > At this point one option I have considered for entering USPS addresses is by > > using just the Description portion of the Address fact. Putting the USPS > > address in the Place portion of the Address fact creates a PNA conflict. I > > guess another option is to put the entire USPS address (including street > > number, street name, city, state, and zip code) in the Description portion > > of a Residence fact. > > > > Any suggestions on a better approach would be greatly appreciated. > > Jim Hoke > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2015 16:01:25 -0600 > From: BJ <oldtrails@gmx.com> > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving Place Names > To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <54FF69B5.7050808@gmx.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > When I have a choice between the actual residence address vs the postal > address, I use the residence address. The only time I will use the > postal address is when I have no residential address. > > Not sure whether that helps of not. > > BJ > > On 3/10/2015 8:26 AM, Jim Hoke via wrote: >> Since the discussion several weeks ago on resolving place names, I've been >> slowly working my way through my FTM database, revising the Residence >> entries and other location-related facts to be consistent with the Place >> Name Authority. One facet I'm still wrestling with is how best to enter >> U.S. Postal Service mailing addresses. >> >> >> >> The problem is that the USPS address might not clearly reflect the >> geographic location in terms of city or township. For example, a sample >> address in our area is 2401 Cavendish Drive, Alexandria, VA 22308. Not only >> is that address not located in Alexandria, it is in a different county from >> Alexandria, namely Fairfax County. Similarly the USPS address can indicate >> a city or town that is not in the same township as the location designated >> by that address. Thus, the Place Name Authority cannot accurately reflect >> the location for the USPS address. >> >> >> >> At this point one option I have considered for entering USPS addresses is by >> using just the Description portion of the Address fact. Putting the USPS >> address in the Place portion of the Address fact creates a PNA conflict. I >> guess another option is to put the entire USPS address (including street >> number, street name, city, state, and zip code) in the Description portion >> of a Residence fact. >> >> >> >> Any suggestions on a better approach would be greatly appreciated. >> >> Jim Hoke >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> >> >> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 18:08:30 +0000 (UTC) >> >> From: Drew DUBLER <drew@drucifer.net> >> >> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving Place Names >> >> To: Debbie <growingatree@hotmail.com>, "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" >> >> <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> >> >> Message-ID: >> >> <930359453.951713.1424974110669.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> >> >> >> I use RESIDENCE for Town, County, State, Country. I use ADDRESS for Street. >> I use POSTAL CODE for Zip Code. I use CENSUS for Wards, Assembly Districts. >> >> . >> >> I'm thinking of adding BUILDING NUMBER as I have lots of families living on >> the same block in New York City. >> >> ?Drew >> >> Cold Spring, Putnam Co., NY >> >> O|||||||O >> >> Modeling the New York Central in N Scale and Trainz >> >> Backyard Birding & Gardening in the New York Hudson Valley >> >> Genealogy HERLIHY, GOULDING, GREENE, LALIME & LENT, LYNT, van LENT >> >> Homepage: http://drucifer.net/index.html >> >> >> >> ********************************** >> List information page >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------ > > > > End of FTM-TECH Digest, Vol 9, Issue 45 > *************************************** >

I have tried everything I can think of with the FTM2014 Help Index to find an answer, but I am unsuccessful. Can anyone point me to the proper instructions? Or provide some guidance?

Joe, Did you look at the Companion Guide in the Help Menu? Simple answer. DETACH the person from the Wrong Relationship. People Workspace, Person View, Person, Menu, Detach. Russ ___________________________ Mailto:rworthington@att.net ________________________________ From: Joe Bissett via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 8:42 AM Subject: [FTM-TECH] Disconnecting a half sibling I have tried everything I can think of with the FTM2014 Help Index to find an answer, but I am unsuccessful. Can anyone point me to the proper instructions? Or provide some guidance?

I am working with autosomal DNA analysis, and I want to use a branch from my FTM2014 tree of our maternal 1st cousin and her ancestors. I exported the branch from FTM, but find that because we share common GPs, my mother and my siblings, children, etc., are all also included. How do I create a properly pruned branch showing only HER line?

When I have a choice between the actual residence address vs the postal address, I use the residence address. The only time I will use the postal address is when I have no residential address. Not sure whether that helps of not. BJ On 3/10/2015 8:26 AM, Jim Hoke via wrote: > Since the discussion several weeks ago on resolving place names, I've been > slowly working my way through my FTM database, revising the Residence > entries and other location-related facts to be consistent with the Place > Name Authority. One facet I'm still wrestling with is how best to enter > U.S. Postal Service mailing addresses. > > > > The problem is that the USPS address might not clearly reflect the > geographic location in terms of city or township. For example, a sample > address in our area is 2401 Cavendish Drive, Alexandria, VA 22308. Not only > is that address not located in Alexandria, it is in a different county from > Alexandria, namely Fairfax County. Similarly the USPS address can indicate > a city or town that is not in the same township as the location designated > by that address. Thus, the Place Name Authority cannot accurately reflect > the location for the USPS address. > > > > At this point one option I have considered for entering USPS addresses is by > using just the Description portion of the Address fact. Putting the USPS > address in the Place portion of the Address fact creates a PNA conflict. I > guess another option is to put the entire USPS address (including street > number, street name, city, state, and zip code) in the Description portion > of a Residence fact. > > > > Any suggestions on a better approach would be greatly appreciated. > > Jim Hoke > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 18:08:30 +0000 (UTC) > > From: Drew DUBLER <drew@drucifer.net> > > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving Place Names > > To: Debbie <growingatree@hotmail.com>, "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" > > <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> > > Message-ID: > > <930359453.951713.1424974110669.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > > I use RESIDENCE for Town, County, State, Country. I use ADDRESS for Street. > I use POSTAL CODE for Zip Code. I use CENSUS for Wards, Assembly Districts. > > . > > I'm thinking of adding BUILDING NUMBER as I have lots of families living on > the same block in New York City. > > ?Drew > > Cold Spring, Putnam Co., NY > > O|||||||O > > Modeling the New York Central in N Scale and Trainz > > Backyard Birding & Gardening in the New York Hudson Valley > > Genealogy HERLIHY, GOULDING, GREENE, LALIME & LENT, LYNT, van LENT > > Homepage: http://drucifer.net/index.html > > > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Jim, I played around with a town in 2 counties. If I entered "address, city, state" then clicked resolve address, it obviously doesn't resolve. But if I click (in the resolve places window) the button to the left (arrow up), it moves the street address to the line above. Then it suggests my options, which includes both county choices. Choosing the correct one and clicking "replace" puts that one in. Back in the PERSON view, the address is kept in the location field. Looking at the PLACES view, I see drop down lists on the left. I get USA, then State, County, and City, with the street address below that. The map happened to place the thumbtack across the street, but I could move that to the correct location. Your situation is a little different due to Alexandria being an "independent city" in Virginia, but it's similar. If I put in your example the same way, and move up the street address, I get choices for both "Alexandria, Independent Cities, Virginia" and "Alexandria, Fairfax, Viriginia". Choosing Fairfax County places the thumbtack correctly on the map, and the drop-down list in PLACES view shows it correctly. But you DO lose the zip code. Although that could be entered in the description, I suppose. You are right, the PNA can't tell you automatically that the above address is in Fairfax County, but it can let you distinguish between the Independent City and the other areas named Alexandria. It's going to boil down to how you want the data stored in your file. Personally, I have the street address in the description field, and I don't worry about the zip code--but that's me. Having played around with it a bit, though, I may consider moving the address up to the location field--it's kind of neat to be able to pull up the map and see the points. On the other hand I don't know if I want ALL of that printing in charts and reports, or taking the time to enter shortened versions. I'll think about it a bit before making a move. I don't know if that helps you or not. Good luck in deciding how you want to handle it! Christine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Hoke via" <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> To: "FTM-TECH mailing list submission" <FTM-TECH@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 10:26:04 AM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving Place Names Since the discussion several weeks ago on resolving place names, I've been slowly working my way through my FTM database, revising the Residence entries and other location-related facts to be consistent with the Place Name Authority. One facet I'm still wrestling with is how best to enter U.S. Postal Service mailing addresses. The problem is that the USPS address might not clearly reflect the geographic location in terms of city or township. For example, a sample address in our area is 2401 Cavendish Drive, Alexandria, VA 22308. Not only is that address not located in Alexandria, it is in a different county from Alexandria, namely Fairfax County. Similarly the USPS address can indicate a city or town that is not in the same township as the location designated by that address. Thus, the Place Name Authority cannot accurately reflect the location for the USPS address. At this point one option I have considered for entering USPS addresses is by using just the Description portion of the Address fact. Putting the USPS address in the Place portion of the Address fact creates a PNA conflict. I guess another option is to put the entire USPS address (including street number, street name, city, state, and zip code) in the Description portion of a Residence fact. Any suggestions on a better approach would be greatly appreciated. Jim Hoke ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 18:08:30 +0000 (UTC) From: Drew DUBLER <drew@drucifer.net> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving Place Names To: Debbie <growingatree@hotmail.com>, "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <930359453.951713.1424974110669.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I use RESIDENCE for Town, County, State, Country. I use ADDRESS for Street. I use POSTAL CODE for Zip Code. I use CENSUS for Wards, Assembly Districts. . I'm thinking of adding BUILDING NUMBER as I have lots of families living on the same block in New York City. ?Drew Cold Spring, Putnam Co., NY O|||||||O Modeling the New York Central in N Scale and Trainz Backyard Birding & Gardening in the New York Hudson Valley Genealogy HERLIHY, GOULDING, GREENE, LALIME & LENT, LYNT, van LENT Homepage: http://drucifer.net/index.html ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks, Russ and Christine, for the responses. In answer to your question, Russ, the main reason I enter addresses into my FTM database is simply to preserve that information in case it will be of some benefit to me or someone else in the future. I'm not doing it for any particular reason, such as to display the information on an FTM map, although certainly I do that when the need arises. I want the location information I enter into the FTM database to be consistent with the Place Name Authority, but not to lose its accuracy just to make it conform to limitations of the Place Name Authority. As an example, take a dwelling located at the USPS address of 285 Spring Street, State College, PA 16801. That dwelling is not located in State College, but in College Township, Centre Co., PA. Note that State College is also located in Centre Co., but it is not located in College Township. Russ, under the system you use, how would you enter the information for that dwelling into your database in a way that is compatible with the PNA? Thanks for the help, Jim Hoke ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- From: H R Worthington [mailto:rworthington@att.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 11:36 AM To: Jim Hoke; ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving Place Names Jim, Question: What are you using the USPS "address" for ? For my family research, I want to place the location on the Map in Family Tree Maker. So, to do that, I use the Place Name Authority format. In the ADDRESS Fact, I put the full street address. I don't care about the Zip Code. BUT, If I did, I would put that in the ADDRESS Fact Description field. Oh, and I mark ALL Address Facts as Private. In the Residence Fact, I do not include the street address. IF a Census Record gives me the Street and House Number, I put that into the Address Field, and just the City, County, State, Country in the rest of the Residence Fact. Yes, for Census Records, it's could be a double entry. But, for two or three purposes. I can time line the Address and Residence Fact I can see you all lived at an Address I can see all who had an event in a Place (City, County, State, Country) One users approach to your question. Russ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- From: Chris Bauman [mailto:chris.bauman@comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 11:27 AM To: Jim Hoke; ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving Place Names Jim, I played around with a town in 2 counties. If I entered "address, city, state" then clicked resolve address, it obviously doesn't resolve. But if I click (in the resolve places window) the button to the left (arrow up), it moves the street address to the line above. Then it suggests my options, which includes both county choices. Choosing the correct one and clicking "replace" puts that one in. Back in the PERSON view, the address is kept in the location field. Looking at the PLACES view, I see drop down lists on the left. I get USA, then State, County, and City, with the street address below that. The map happened to place the thumbtack across the street, but I could move that to the correct location. Your situation is a little different due to Alexandria being an "independent city" in Virginia, but it's similar. If I put in your example the same way, and move up the street address, I get choices for both "Alexandria, Independent Cities, Virginia" and "Alexandria, Fairfax, Virginia". Choosing Fairfax County places the thumbtack correctly on the map, and the drop-down list in PLACES view shows it correctly. But you DO lose the zip code. Although that could be entered in the description, I suppose. You are right, the PNA can't tell you automatically that the above address is in Fairfax County, but it can let you distinguish between the Independent City and the other areas named Alexandria. It's going to boil down to how you want the data stored in your file. Personally, I have the street address in the description field, and I don't worry about the zip code--but that's me. Having played around with it a bit, though, I may consider moving the address up to the location field--it's kind of neat to be able to pull up the map and see the points. On the other hand I don't know if I want ALL of that printing in charts and reports, or taking the time to enter shortened versions. I'll think about it a bit before making a move. I don't know if that helps you or not. Good luck in deciding how you want to handle it! Christine ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- From: Jim Hoke via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> To: FTM-TECH mailing list submission <FTM-TECH@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 10:26 AM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving Place Names Since the discussion several weeks ago on resolving place names, I've been slowly working my way through my FTM database, revising the Residence entries and other location-related facts to be consistent with the Place Name Authority. One facet I'm still wrestling with is how best to enter U.S. Postal Service mailing addresses. The problem is that the USPS address might not clearly reflect the geographic location in terms of city or township. For example, a sample address in our area is 2401 Cavendish Drive, Alexandria, VA 22308. Not only is that address not located in Alexandria, it is in a different county from Alexandria, namely Fairfax County. Similarly the USPS address can indicate a city or town that is not in the same township as the location designated by that address. Thus, the Place Name Authority cannot accurately reflect the location for the USPS address. At this point one option I have considered for entering USPS addresses is by using just the Description portion of the Address fact. Putting the USPS address in the Place portion of the Address fact creates a PNA conflict. I guess another option is to put the entire USPS address (including street number, street name, city, state, and zip code) in the Description portion of a Residence fact. Any suggestions on a better approach would be greatly appreciated. Jim Hoke

I enter shortened place names on the fly. If the report or chart I'm creating needs it, then I go back and do it. Judy in Ocala On Mar 10, 2015, at 11:26 AM, Chris Bauman via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> wrote: Jim, I played around with a town in 2 counties. If I entered "address, city, state" then clicked resolve address, it obviously doesn't resolve. But if I click (in the resolve places window) the button to the left (arrow up), it moves the street address to the line above. Then it suggests my options, which includes both county choices. Choosing the correct one and clicking "replace" puts that one in. Back in the PERSON view, the address is kept in the location field. Looking at the PLACES view, I see drop down lists on the left. I get USA, then State, County, and City, with the street address below that. The map happened to place the thumbtack across the street, but I could move that to the correct location. Your situation is a little different due to Alexandria being an "independent city" in Virginia, but it's similar. If I put in your example the same way, and move up the street address, I get choices for both "Alexandria, Independent Cities, Virginia" and "Alexandria, Fairfax, Viriginia". Choosing Fairfax County places the thumbtack correctly on the map, and the drop-down list in PLACES view shows it correctly. But you DO lose the zip code. Although that could be entered in the description, I suppose. You are right, the PNA can't tell you automatically that the above address is in Fairfax County, but it can let you distinguish between the Independent City and the other areas named Alexandria. It's going to boil down to how you want the data stored in your file. Personally, I have the street address in the description field, and I don't worry about the zip code--but that's me. Having played around with it a bit, though, I may consider moving the address up to the location field--it's kind of neat to be able to pull up the map and see the points. On the other hand I don't know if I want ALL of that printing in charts and reports, or taking the time to enter shortened versions. I'll think about it a bit before making a move. I don't know if that helps you or not. Good luck in deciding how you want to handle it! Christine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Hoke via" <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> To: "FTM-TECH mailing list submission" <FTM-TECH@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 10:26:04 AM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving Place Names Since the discussion several weeks ago on resolving place names, I've been slowly working my way through my FTM database, revising the Residence entries and other location-related facts to be consistent with the Place Name Authority. One facet I'm still wrestling with is how best to enter U.S. Postal Service mailing addresses. The problem is that the USPS address might not clearly reflect the geographic location in terms of city or township. For example, a sample address in our area is 2401 Cavendish Drive, Alexandria, VA 22308. Not only is that address not located in Alexandria, it is in a different county from Alexandria, namely Fairfax County. Similarly the USPS address can indicate a city or town that is not in the same township as the location designated by that address. Thus, the Place Name Authority cannot accurately reflect the location for the USPS address. At this point one option I have considered for entering USPS addresses is by using just the Description portion of the Address fact. Putting the USPS address in the Place portion of the Address fact creates a PNA conflict. I guess another option is to put the entire USPS address (including street number, street name, city, state, and zip code) in the Description portion of a Residence fact. Any suggestions on a better approach would be greatly appreciated. Jim Hoke ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 18:08:30 +0000 (UTC) From: Drew DUBLER <drew@drucifer.net> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving Place Names To: Debbie <growingatree@hotmail.com>, "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <930359453.951713.1424974110669.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I use RESIDENCE for Town, County, State, Country. I use ADDRESS for Street. I use POSTAL CODE for Zip Code. I use CENSUS for Wards, Assembly Districts. . I'm thinking of adding BUILDING NUMBER as I have lots of families living on the same block in New York City. ?Drew Cold Spring, Putnam Co., NY O|||||||O Modeling the New York Central in N Scale and Trainz Backyard Birding & Gardening in the New York Hudson Valley Genealogy HERLIHY, GOULDING, GREENE, LALIME & LENT, LYNT, van LENT Homepage: http://drucifer.net/index.html ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Since the discussion several weeks ago on resolving place names, I've been slowly working my way through my FTM database, revising the Residence entries and other location-related facts to be consistent with the Place Name Authority. One facet I'm still wrestling with is how best to enter U.S. Postal Service mailing addresses. The problem is that the USPS address might not clearly reflect the geographic location in terms of city or township. For example, a sample address in our area is 2401 Cavendish Drive, Alexandria, VA 22308. Not only is that address not located in Alexandria, it is in a different county from Alexandria, namely Fairfax County. Similarly the USPS address can indicate a city or town that is not in the same township as the location designated by that address. Thus, the Place Name Authority cannot accurately reflect the location for the USPS address. At this point one option I have considered for entering USPS addresses is by using just the Description portion of the Address fact. Putting the USPS address in the Place portion of the Address fact creates a PNA conflict. I guess another option is to put the entire USPS address (including street number, street name, city, state, and zip code) in the Description portion of a Residence fact. Any suggestions on a better approach would be greatly appreciated. Jim Hoke ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 18:08:30 +0000 (UTC) From: Drew DUBLER <drew@drucifer.net> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving Place Names To: Debbie <growingatree@hotmail.com>, "ftm-tech@rootsweb.com" <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <930359453.951713.1424974110669.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I use RESIDENCE for Town, County, State, Country. I use ADDRESS for Street. I use POSTAL CODE for Zip Code. I use CENSUS for Wards, Assembly Districts. . I'm thinking of adding BUILDING NUMBER as I have lots of families living on the same block in New York City. ?Drew Cold Spring, Putnam Co., NY O|||||||O Modeling the New York Central in N Scale and Trainz Backyard Birding & Gardening in the New York Hudson Valley Genealogy HERLIHY, GOULDING, GREENE, LALIME & LENT, LYNT, van LENT Homepage: http://drucifer.net/index.html

Jim, Question: What are you using the USPS "address" for ? For my family research, I want to place the location on the Map in Family Tree Maker. So, to do that, I use the Place Name Authority format. In the ADDRESS Fact, I put the full street address. I don't care about the Zip Code. BUT, If I did, I would put that in the ADDRESS Fact Description field. Oh, and I mark ALL Address Facts as Private. In the Residence Fact, I do not include the street address. IF a Census Record gives me the Street and House Number, I put that into the Address Field, and just the City, County, State, Country in the rest of the Residence Fact. Yes, for Census Records, it's could be a double entry. But, for two or three purposes. I can time line the Address and Residence Fact I can see you all lived at an Address I can see all who had an event in a Place (City, County, State, Country) One users approach to your question. Russ ___________________________ Mailto:rworthington@att.net ________________________________ From: Jim Hoke via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> To: FTM-TECH mailing list submission <FTM-TECH@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 10:26 AM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving Place Names Since the discussion several weeks ago on resolving place names, I've been slowly working my way through my FTM database, revising the Residence entries and other location-related facts to be consistent with the Place Name Authority. One facet I'm still wrestling with is how best to enter U.S. Postal Service mailing addresses. The problem is that the USPS address might not clearly reflect the geographic location in terms of city or township. For example, a sample address in our area is 2401 Cavendish Drive, Alexandria, VA 22308. Not only is that address not located in Alexandria, it is in a different county from Alexandria, namely Fairfax County. Similarly the USPS address can indicate a city or town that is not in the same township as the location designated by that address. Thus, the Place Name Authority cannot accurately reflect the location for the USPS address. At this point one option I have considered for entering USPS addresses is by using just the Description portion of the Address fact. Putting the USPS address in the Place portion of the Address fact creates a PNA conflict. I guess another option is to put the entire USPS address (including street number, street name, city, state, and zip code) in the Description portion of a Residence fact. Any suggestions on a better approach would be greatly appreciated.