John, I don't suppose you happen to be in Australia and it is already April 1? Jay Thompson just an old genealogy nut too tough to crack. On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 7:20 PM, John Donaldson via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> wrote: I have notice recently whilst in the tree view that the shaky leaves attached to people are becoming dislodged and falling to the bottom of the screen. I have tried to reattach them by selecting them with the mouse and then dragging them back to the individuals involved. I have had some problems with this technique as if I accidentally reattach them to the wrong person the hints do not work correctly. This is very annoying and composting does not seem to fix it. Has anyone seen this issue?  I cannot find anyting on the issie in the Companion Guild or the support pages. John D ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good catch, John. We need a fix for that right away. Provo has 5 hours to straighten it out! Judy in Ocala Where it's already 9:00 PM (21:00). On Mar 31, 2015, at 7:14 PM, John Donaldson via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> wrote: I have notice recently whilst in the tree view that the shaky leaves attached to people are becoming dislodged and falling to the bottom of the screen. I have tried to reattach them by selecting them with the mouse and then dragging them back to the individuals involved. I have had some problems with this technique as if I accidentally reattach them to the wrong person the hints do not work correctly. This is very annoying and composting does not seem to fix it. Has anyone seen this issue? I cannot find anyting on the issie in the Companion Guild or the support pages. John D ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

OK, Thanks, I'll try to find it. BJ On 3/31/2015 6:36 PM, Lawrence Bouett via wrote: > BJ, > > I believe the build with the rake is 1349-A, and you have to > re-register. I didn't notice it until Ian mentioned it. > > Lawrence > > *Lawrence Bouett* > lbouett@yahoo.com <mailto:lbouett@yahoo.com> > 925.357.5294 > > On 03-31-2015 17:30, BJ via wrote: >> Which build is this? I thought I was using the latest release build >> 1349 but I don't find the rake. >> >> BJ >> >> On 3/31/2015 6:10 PM, Lawrence Bouett via wrote: >>> Ian, >>> >>> Brilliant! I looked all over the program and completely missed the >>> rake. I think it's just too bloody small for some of us to see! >>> >>> Lawrence >>> >>> *Lawrence Bouett* >>> lbouett@yahoo.com <mailto:lbouett@yahoo.com> >>> 925.357.5294 >>> On 03-31-2015 16:59, Ian Marr via wrote: >>>> Yes, John, a thorny problem. >>>> >>>> In the latest update you will find a little rake icon in the lop left area >>>> of the people view. Click on this and it will automatically, and correctly, >>>> re-attach any leaves that have fallen. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Ian MARR >>>> at 38° 24' 01.299" S by 142° 34' 11.9094" E; 6m above sea level >>>> >>>> This message can be considered to be in the public domain. >>>> >>>> The home of SW Victorian Cemetery indexes: http://www.ianmarr.net.au/ >>>> Allansford Weather (10 min updates): http://www.ianmarr.net.au/Weather/ >>>> Family Tree: http://marrwatts.tribalpages.com/ >>>> Remember, to EVERY question in life, there is MORE than ONE correct answer. >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: John Donaldson via >>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 10:14 AM >>>> To: FTM-Tech >>>> Subject: [FTM-TECH] Falling Leaves >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I have notice recently whilst in the tree view that the shaky leaves >>>> attached to people are becoming dislodged and falling to the bottom of the >>>> screen. >>>> >>>> I have tried to reattach them by selecting them with the mouse and then >>>> dragging them back to the individuals involved. I have had some problems >>>> with this technique as if I accidentally reattach them to the wrong person >>>> the hints do not work correctly. >>>> >>>> This is very annoying and composting does not seem to fix it. Has anyone >>>> seen this issue? I cannot find anyting on the issie in the Companion Guild >>>> or the support pages. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> John D >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ********************************** >>>> List information page >>>> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> ********************************** >>>> List information page >>>> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> ********************************** >>> List information page >>> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> ********************************** >> List information page >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have my FTM 2012 on a PC desktop and it is not yet on Ancestry.com. I have just started using a new PC (which is a Brix, amazing!) and am in the process of moving all of my programs and files onto this little jewel. I have downloaded FTM 2012 onto that machine and now it wants to register that copy. Is it possible to keep FTM on both machines until I have completely finished the move? I will not have both open at the same time....but I just want to have the original until I am sure that everything is in proper order and all files have actually moved. I thought I remembered that you can have two copies as long as only one is open.... I plan to upgrade to 2014 in a few months, but don't want to learn a new program as I am now learning so many new and upgraded programs on the new machine. Thanks for your help, Beth

Which build is this? I thought I was using the latest release build 1349 but I don't find the rake. BJ On 3/31/2015 6:10 PM, Lawrence Bouett via wrote: > Ian, > > Brilliant! I looked all over the program and completely missed the > rake. I think it's just too bloody small for some of us to see! > > Lawrence > > *Lawrence Bouett* > lbouett@yahoo.com <mailto:lbouett@yahoo.com> > 925.357.5294 > On 03-31-2015 16:59, Ian Marr via wrote: >> Yes, John, a thorny problem. >> >> In the latest update you will find a little rake icon in the lop left area >> of the people view. Click on this and it will automatically, and correctly, >> re-attach any leaves that have fallen. >> >> Regards, >> Ian MARR >> at 38° 24' 01.299" S by 142° 34' 11.9094" E; 6m above sea level >> >> This message can be considered to be in the public domain. >> >> The home of SW Victorian Cemetery indexes: http://www.ianmarr.net.au/ >> Allansford Weather (10 min updates): http://www.ianmarr.net.au/Weather/ >> Family Tree: http://marrwatts.tribalpages.com/ >> Remember, to EVERY question in life, there is MORE than ONE correct answer. >> -----Original Message----- >> From: John Donaldson via >> Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 10:14 AM >> To: FTM-Tech >> Subject: [FTM-TECH] Falling Leaves >> >> >> >> I have notice recently whilst in the tree view that the shaky leaves >> attached to people are becoming dislodged and falling to the bottom of the >> screen. >> >> I have tried to reattach them by selecting them with the mouse and then >> dragging them back to the individuals involved. I have had some problems >> with this technique as if I accidentally reattach them to the wrong person >> the hints do not work correctly. >> >> This is very annoying and composting does not seem to fix it. Has anyone >> seen this issue? I cannot find anyting on the issie in the Companion Guild >> or the support pages. >> >> >> >> John D >> >> >> >> ********************************** >> List information page >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ********************************** >> List information page >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

John, I'm not sure whether this is related to your observation or not but for years I've advocated the shaky leaves be color coded. Perhaps what you are observing is an implementation of that suggested enhancement. I've advocated that when the leaves represent both source and amt tree search results, the leaf be green. When the leaf displays only source hints, they would be colored red and when they display only amt hints, they would be colored yellow. That provides the user with a useful method of identifying the type of hints found. Of course, the falling leaves could be the culmination of the process where the hints are displayed and as the user merges or reviews the hints the leaves change color and when all hints have been reviewed and there are no more hints, the leaves would then fall to the bottom of the screen or window. This would let you use the Tools, Compost option to use them as mulch for nourishing the Family Tree. Sorry, I can't be of more help. BJ On 3/31/2015 5:14 PM, John Donaldson via wrote: > > > I have notice recently whilst in the tree view that the shaky leaves > attached to people are becoming dislodged and falling to the bottom of the > screen. > > I have tried to reattach them by selecting them with the mouse and then > dragging them back to the individuals involved. I have had some problems > with this technique as if I accidentally reattach them to the wrong person > the hints do not work correctly. > > This is very annoying and composting does not seem to fix it. Has anyone > seen this issue? I cannot find anyting on the issie in the Companion Guild > or the support pages. > > > > John D > > > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Yes, you can have FTM on both machines. I have done it when I go on vacation and use a different machine. Don't worry about the Registration process. It doesn't keep track of the machine. I suspect it simply turns on a flag in the file. I routinely have to register the program after I've reinstalled FTM for some reason. BJ On 3/31/2015 5:34 PM, Beth Bowling via wrote: > I have my FTM 2012 on a PC desktop and it is not yet on Ancestry.com. I > have just started using a new PC (which is a Brix, amazing!) and am in the > process of moving all of my programs and files onto this little jewel. I > have downloaded FTM 2012 onto that machine and now it wants to register that > copy. Is it possible to keep FTM on both machines until I have completely > finished the move? I will not have both open at the same time....but I just > want to have the original until I am sure that everything is in proper order > and all files have actually moved. I thought I remembered that you can > have two copies as long as only one is open.... > > I plan to upgrade to 2014 in a few months, but don't want to learn a new > program as I am now learning so many new and upgraded programs on the new > machine.

BJ, I believe the build with the rake is 1349-A, and you have to re-register. I didn't notice it until Ian mentioned it. Lawrence *Lawrence Bouett* lbouett@yahoo.com <mailto:lbouett@yahoo.com> 925.357.5294 On 03-31-2015 17:30, BJ via wrote: > Which build is this? I thought I was using the latest release build > 1349 but I don't find the rake. > > BJ > > On 3/31/2015 6:10 PM, Lawrence Bouett via wrote: >> Ian, >> >> Brilliant! I looked all over the program and completely missed the >> rake. I think it's just too bloody small for some of us to see! >> >> Lawrence >> >> *Lawrence Bouett* >> lbouett@yahoo.com <mailto:lbouett@yahoo.com> >> 925.357.5294 >> On 03-31-2015 16:59, Ian Marr via wrote: >>> Yes, John, a thorny problem. >>> >>> In the latest update you will find a little rake icon in the lop left area >>> of the people view. Click on this and it will automatically, and correctly, >>> re-attach any leaves that have fallen. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Ian MARR >>> at 38° 24' 01.299" S by 142° 34' 11.9094" E; 6m above sea level >>> >>> This message can be considered to be in the public domain. >>> >>> The home of SW Victorian Cemetery indexes: http://www.ianmarr.net.au/ >>> Allansford Weather (10 min updates): http://www.ianmarr.net.au/Weather/ >>> Family Tree: http://marrwatts.tribalpages.com/ >>> Remember, to EVERY question in life, there is MORE than ONE correct answer. >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: John Donaldson via >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 10:14 AM >>> To: FTM-Tech >>> Subject: [FTM-TECH] Falling Leaves >>> >>> >>> >>> I have notice recently whilst in the tree view that the shaky leaves >>> attached to people are becoming dislodged and falling to the bottom of the >>> screen. >>> >>> I have tried to reattach them by selecting them with the mouse and then >>> dragging them back to the individuals involved. I have had some problems >>> with this technique as if I accidentally reattach them to the wrong person >>> the hints do not work correctly. >>> >>> This is very annoying and composting does not seem to fix it. Has anyone >>> seen this issue? I cannot find anyting on the issie in the Companion Guild >>> or the support pages. >>> >>> >>> >>> John D >>> >>> >>> >>> ********************************** >>> List information page >>> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> ********************************** >>> List information page >>> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> ********************************** >> List information page >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Ian, Brilliant! I looked all over the program and completely missed the rake. I think it's just too bloody small for some of us to see! Lawrence *Lawrence Bouett* lbouett@yahoo.com <mailto:lbouett@yahoo.com> 925.357.5294 On 03-31-2015 16:59, Ian Marr via wrote: > Yes, John, a thorny problem. > > In the latest update you will find a little rake icon in the lop left area > of the people view. Click on this and it will automatically, and correctly, > re-attach any leaves that have fallen. > > Regards, > Ian MARR > at 38° 24' 01.299" S by 142° 34' 11.9094" E; 6m above sea level > > This message can be considered to be in the public domain. > > The home of SW Victorian Cemetery indexes: http://www.ianmarr.net.au/ > Allansford Weather (10 min updates): http://www.ianmarr.net.au/Weather/ > Family Tree: http://marrwatts.tribalpages.com/ > Remember, to EVERY question in life, there is MORE than ONE correct answer. > -----Original Message----- > From: John Donaldson via > Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 10:14 AM > To: FTM-Tech > Subject: [FTM-TECH] Falling Leaves > > > > I have notice recently whilst in the tree view that the shaky leaves > attached to people are becoming dislodged and falling to the bottom of the > screen. > > I have tried to reattach them by selecting them with the mouse and then > dragging them back to the individuals involved. I have had some problems > with this technique as if I accidentally reattach them to the wrong person > the hints do not work correctly. > > This is very annoying and composting does not seem to fix it. Has anyone > seen this issue? I cannot find anyting on the issie in the Companion Guild > or the support pages. > > > > John D > > > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

John, I'm sorry to hear that you're having trouble with the leaves. I don't use the shaky-leaf hints, so I haven't experienced the problem you describe. I do think I have an explanation, though, although I'm afraid I don't have a ready solution. The leaves in /Family Tree Maker/ are deciduous leaves, which means that they should fall off in the Fall the the year. That is what they are supposed to do in Nature. Of course, since you live in the upside-down part of the World, you are just now entering Fall, while the rest of us are entering Spring. Deciduous leaves have what is called an /abscission layer/, which is simply a layer of special cells that have been programmed, through millions of years of evolution, to die when the photoperiod — the duration of light on any given day — falls below a certain threshold on average over time. Another factor that enters into how the abscission layer cells die is temperature, which is contributing to your problem because the temperature trigger is calibrated in degrees Fahrenheit (ºF), while you live with degrees Celsius (ºC), so the leaves must convert ºC to ºF before they can die. That may be why we're not seeing the problem here in the right-side-up part of the World. I don''t know how they managed to do it, but Provo has genetically engineered the formation of the abscission layer _out_ of their so-called /Shaky leaf hints/ so that the leaves are, effectively, evergreen rather than deciduous. So it seems to me that the only solution is for Provo to put their staff biologists and geneticists to work on the problem /immediately /and either breed out the offending gene or, through genetic engineering, cut the gene out of the leaf stock. In that way, future generations of shaky leaves will not carry the gene for the development of the abscission layer, and over time, all will be well. Plus, since I'm not seeing the problem you describe, I have nothing I have to rake up and compost. Oh, that reminds me: when you do compost, you're supposed to turn the compost regularly to ærate it; otherwise, it may not break down completely and simply rot. Best wishes, Lawrence -- *Lawrence Bouett* lbouett@yahoo.com <mailto:lbouett@yahoo.com> 925.357.5294 On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 7:20 PM, John Donaldson via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> wrote: I have notice recently whilst in the tree view that the shaky leaves attached to people are becoming dislodged and falling to the bottom of the screen. I have tried to reattach them by selecting them with the mouse and then dragging them back to the individuals involved. I have had some problems with this technique as if I accidentally reattach them to the wrong person the hints do not work correctly. This is very annoying and composting does not seem to fix it. Has anyone seen this issue? I cannot find anyting on the issie in the Companion Guild or the support pages. John D

Jim, need some more details about "enhanced navigation". Right now, it's one click away from several places. Don't know how much easier it can get. I must be missing something. Russ  ___________________________ Mailto:rworthington@att.net From: Jim Hoke via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> To: FTM-TECH mailing list submission <FTM-TECH@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 8:47 PM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving place names (from the thread Program crashes when resolving place names) Thanks, BJ, for the response and for the insight.  Perhaps enhanced navigation from the People workspace to the Places workspace will be considered for the next major upgrade to FTM.

John, Yes, and the feature set is pretty close to FTM2014 Russ ___________________________ Mailto:rworthington@att.net From: John Okerson via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 6:05 PM Subject: [FTM-TECH] A Mac question Does FTMM 3 support synching to Ancestry.com like FTM 2012 and 2014? I am working with a 5th cousin who owns a Mac and want to be certain that Synch is a built-in feature. Thanks in advance. John Okerson ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Russ, By enhanced navigation, I meant the suggestion made by BJ. Specifically, his suggestion was “it would certainly be much more user friendly if the user could say double click on the Place name in the Tree/Person information panel and that would transfer the focus to the Places work area.” Jim From: H R Worthington [mailto:rworthington@att.net] Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 8:59 PM To: Jim Hoke; ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving place names (from the thread Program crashes when resolving place names) Jim, need some more details about "enhanced navigation". Right now, it's one click away from several places. Don't know how much easier it can get. I must be missing something. Russ ___________________________ Mailto:rworthington@att.net _____ From: Jim Hoke via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> To: FTM-TECH mailing list submission <FTM-TECH@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 8:47 PM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving place names (from the thread Program crashes when resolving place names) Thanks, BJ, for the response and for the insight. Perhaps enhanced navigation from the People workspace to the Places workspace will be considered for the next major upgrade to FTM.

Thanks, BJ, for the response and for the insight. Perhaps enhanced navigation from the People workspace to the Places workspace will be considered for the next major upgrade to FTM. Jim --------------------------------------------------- From: BJ <oldtrails@gmx.com> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving place names (from the thread Programcrashes when resolving place names) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2015 12:17:29 -0600 References: <001c01d067d7$ef0583d0$cd108b70$@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <001c01d067d7$ef0583d0$cd108b70$@gmail.com> Sorry I didn't respond earlier. See comments interspersed below. BJ On 3/26/2015 9:17 AM, Jim Hoke via wrote: > 3. One pet peeve I have with the PNA is that it uses a 4-tier > jurisdictional hierarchy instead of a 5-tier one. Frequently there are > villages/towns in the PNA that are in townships in the PNA. One option for > handling this situation is to use the village/town as the fourth tier level, > thereby taking township out of the hierarchy for that entry. An alternative > is to use township as the fourth tier level, indicating the village/town > under Place detail. This can be undesirable because the village/town then > cannot have any locations placed under it in the FTM/PNA representation of > the hierarchy. Thus, neither option is very satisfying. I understand your view point. The problem as I see it is that many states do not use the township model. Consequently, if they implemented the 5 tier approach you suggest, everyone would have to account for the township even if it were not applicable. To do that would probably mean entering double commas between the town and county so the program would be able to format the name properly. > 4. My question involves FTM 2014 navigation. In the People workspace under > the Person tab, how can one easily get to a map showing the location of a > place-related fact? In FTM 2014 it is easy to go from the Places workspace > (showing the geographic location of a place on a map) to the facts > associated with that place under the People workspace. Unless I've > overlooked something, going the opposite direction is not nearly as easy. You are correct and that has been one of my pet peeves with FTM since the rewrite. I'm not sure why they did it this way but it would certainly be much more user friendly if the user could say double click on the Place name in the Tree/Person information panel and that would transfer the focus to the Places work area. > Jim Hoke

I am working with a 5th cousin who owns a Mac and want to be certain that Synch is a built-in feature. Thanks in advance. John Okerson

Thanks BJ, When I pinned things before I was fighting the system. Now I know how I am supposed to do it. Christine -----Original Message----- From: BJ via Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 3:53 PM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving place names (from the thread Program crashes when resolving place names) I entered Gold Coast into a field. When I went to the Places work area, the Map could not find it. So in the middle panel, I entered Ghana and the map produced it. It was a relative simple way of then pinning that geographic location to the Place name. So whenever I went to the place name Map it showed Ghana for the unresolved Place name Gold Coast. BJ On 3/29/2015 4:13 AM, Christine Benson wrote: > I didn't take it as critical BJ, I was just explaining my approach so > far. But moving the pin, something I have done little of so far, is > another interesting approach on that sort of problem. And I am open to > all new ideas. > > Christine > > -----Original Message----- From: BJ via > Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 3:17 AM > To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving place names (from the thread Program > crashes when resolving place names) > > I'm sorry Christine, I didn't intend to be overly critical of what you > are attempting to accomplish. I think I would have approached it > slightly differently by leaving the entry as "Gold Coast" and then gone > to the Place work area and moved the pin on the map so it was pointing > to "Ghana". > > BJ > > On 3/28/2015 6:19 AM, Christine Benson via wrote: >> I am new to this so am still experimenting and finding my personal >> preferences. But I decided to resolve "Gold Coast" to include >> "Ghana", not >> because the name was incorrect, but because I knew I would need >> reminding >> where the place was. But I "Ignored" "Wadhurst, East Sussex" as the >> place is >> correct at the time of the event and I know exactly where the place is. >> >> Christine >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BJ via >> Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 3:18 AM >> To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving place names (from the thread Program >> crashes when resolving place names) >> >> I'm continually confused with this obsession of resolving the place >> name. The PNA is a tool to help researchers enter the Place name in a >> uniform format but it only a tool. Its use not required or mandated. >> So why do these contrivances just to remove the flag. For a historical >> place whose name has been changed or no longer exists, why not simply >> enter the name as documented and then ignore the flag. You can ignore >> it in one of two ways: just pretend it isn't there (my preference) or >> click the ignore option telling FTM to discontinue displaying the >> unresolved flag (indicator). >> >> I'm sorry but it just seems like a lot of effort for no real purpose. >> >> BJ >> >> >> ********************************** >> List information page >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry I didn't respond earlier. See comments interspersed below. BJ On 3/26/2015 9:17 AM, Jim Hoke via wrote: > 3. One pet peeve I have with the PNA is that it uses a 4-tier > jurisdictional hierarchy instead of a 5-tier one. Frequently there are > villages/towns in the PNA that are in townships in the PNA. One option for > handling this situation is to use the village/town as the fourth tier level, > thereby taking township out of the hierarchy for that entry. An alternative > is to use township as the fourth tier level, indicating the village/town > under Place detail. This can be undesirable because the village/town then > cannot have any locations placed under it in the FTM/PNA representation of > the hierarchy. Thus, neither option is very satisfying. I understand your view point. The problem as I see it is that many states do not use the township model. Consequently, if they implemented the 5 tier approach you suggest, everyone would have to account for the township even if it were not applicable. To do that would probably mean entering double commas between the town and county so the program would be able to format the name properly. > 4. My question involves FTM 2014 navigation. In the People workspace under > the Person tab, how can one easily get to a map showing the location of a > place-related fact? In FTM 2014 it is easy to go from the Places workspace > (showing the geographic location of a place on a map) to the facts > associated with that place under the People workspace. Unless I've > overlooked something, going the opposite direction is not nearly as easy. You are correct and that has been one of my pet peeves with FTM since the rewrite. I'm not sure why they did it this way but it would certainly be much more user friendly if the user could say double click on the Place name in the Tree/Person information panel and that would transfer the focus to the Places work area. > Jim Hoke > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 18:42:48 -0600 > From: BJ <oldtrails@gmx.com> > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Program crashes when resolving place names > To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <55120488.2060202@gmx.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > ... > I understand the desire to incorporate the house number and street > address into the Place name; however, you need to understand - that will > create a unique entry for each house number and street in your list of > Place names. Personally, I think creates too many unique place names > with very little benefit. I normally want the place names to reflect a > group. Therefore, I will enter the Cemetery name along with the place > name. In most instances, I will have multiple facts associated with a > given cemetery. If you do not use the hierarchical listing, you will > wind up with one listing for every house number street combination. > Even if you use the hierarchical listing, the place names will be > grouped under the Country name, State name, County name, City name with > one entry for each house number street address combination. Again that > tends to be too many for me to browse through efficiently. So I tend to > enter the house number street address in the fact Description field. > This keeps my place names to a more manageable list making it easier to > use Fast Find in the Place Names. > ... > Hope this helps. > BJ > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 15:28:55 -0600 > From: BJ <oldtrails@gmx.com> > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Program crashes when resolving place names > To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <55132897.30001@gmx.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > .. >> What do you do with the place Gold Coast, West Africa? I know it is now >> Ghana but it wasn't at the time. > I would probably handle it this way as I prefer to preserve the original > data as much as possible. I would enter the Place name, "Gold Coast, > West Africa" and leave it as unresolved. The "unresolved" indicator is > simply an advisory flag which brings it to your attention. It doesn't > mean the information is incorrect but simply alerts you the the fact it > is not in the Place Name Authority data base. Alternately, if you want > to get rid of the "unresolved" indicator, you can elect to ignore the > alert. > > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I didn't take it as critical BJ, I was just explaining my approach so far. But moving the pin, something I have done little of so far, is another interesting approach on that sort of problem. And I am open to all new ideas. Christine -----Original Message----- From: BJ via Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 3:17 AM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving place names (from the thread Program crashes when resolving place names) I'm sorry Christine, I didn't intend to be overly critical of what you are attempting to accomplish. I think I would have approached it slightly differently by leaving the entry as "Gold Coast" and then gone to the Place work area and moved the pin on the map so it was pointing to "Ghana". BJ On 3/28/2015 6:19 AM, Christine Benson via wrote: > I am new to this so am still experimenting and finding my personal > preferences. But I decided to resolve "Gold Coast" to include "Ghana", not > because the name was incorrect, but because I knew I would need reminding > where the place was. But I "Ignored" "Wadhurst, East Sussex" as the place > is > correct at the time of the event and I know exactly where the place is. > > Christine > > -----Original Message----- > From: BJ via > Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 3:18 AM > To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving place names (from the thread Program > crashes when resolving place names) > > I'm continually confused with this obsession of resolving the place > name. The PNA is a tool to help researchers enter the Place name in a > uniform format but it only a tool. Its use not required or mandated. > So why do these contrivances just to remove the flag. For a historical > place whose name has been changed or no longer exists, why not simply > enter the name as documented and then ignore the flag. You can ignore > it in one of two ways: just pretend it isn't there (my preference) or > click the ignore option telling FTM to discontinue displaying the > unresolved flag (indicator). > > I'm sorry but it just seems like a lot of effort for no real purpose. > > BJ > > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I entered Gold Coast into a field. When I went to the Places work area, the Map could not find it. So in the middle panel, I entered Ghana and the map produced it. It was a relative simple way of then pinning that geographic location to the Place name. So whenever I went to the place name Map it showed Ghana for the unresolved Place name Gold Coast. BJ On 3/29/2015 4:13 AM, Christine Benson wrote: > I didn't take it as critical BJ, I was just explaining my approach so > far. But moving the pin, something I have done little of so far, is > another interesting approach on that sort of problem. And I am open to > all new ideas. > > Christine > > -----Original Message----- From: BJ via > Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 3:17 AM > To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving place names (from the thread Program > crashes when resolving place names) > > I'm sorry Christine, I didn't intend to be overly critical of what you > are attempting to accomplish. I think I would have approached it > slightly differently by leaving the entry as "Gold Coast" and then gone > to the Place work area and moved the pin on the map so it was pointing > to "Ghana". > > BJ > > On 3/28/2015 6:19 AM, Christine Benson via wrote: >> I am new to this so am still experimenting and finding my personal >> preferences. But I decided to resolve "Gold Coast" to include >> "Ghana", not >> because the name was incorrect, but because I knew I would need >> reminding >> where the place was. But I "Ignored" "Wadhurst, East Sussex" as the >> place is >> correct at the time of the event and I know exactly where the place is. >> >> Christine >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BJ via >> Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 3:18 AM >> To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving place names (from the thread Program >> crashes when resolving place names) >> >> I'm continually confused with this obsession of resolving the place >> name. The PNA is a tool to help researchers enter the Place name in a >> uniform format but it only a tool. Its use not required or mandated. >> So why do these contrivances just to remove the flag. For a historical >> place whose name has been changed or no longer exists, why not simply >> enter the name as documented and then ignore the flag. You can ignore >> it in one of two ways: just pretend it isn't there (my preference) or >> click the ignore option telling FTM to discontinue displaying the >> unresolved flag (indicator). >> >> I'm sorry but it just seems like a lot of effort for no real purpose. >> >> BJ >> >> >> ********************************** >> List information page >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

BJ, Your example is exactly why I would like to have Place Name NOTES. That would remind me that there are two counties that have that Place Name, and I would keep notes as to where I looked to try to find Which County AND why I, also, keep it as Unresolved. I don't ignore it, just know that I have work to do. Thank you, Russ ___________________________ Mailto:rworthington@att.net From: BJ via <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 10:10 PM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Resolving place names in FTM Great example of how to use the PNA as a tool.  That is its intent. I do essentially the same thing.  When I come across something which doesn't make sense to resolve, I leave it.  As an example, I have a lady who documentation says she was born in Kemp, Texas.  I tried to resolve it, the problem is there are two counties with a town named Kemp.  I have nothing to indicate which of the two counties is correct so I just left it as Kemp, Texas unresolved so I will keep looking for more definitive documentation.