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    1. [FTM-TECH] Trying to unsubscribe
    2. Hilary Henkin
    3. Hi, My interests have changed, and I decided to unsubscribe from this listserve. I followed the directions at the bottom of every message, to send a message with unsubscribe in the subject and body, but it's not working. I tried regular and plain text. Any thoughts?

    08/20/2011 10:56:36
    1. Re: [FTM-TECH] Compacting
    2. John Donaldson
    3. Tom Think of a bookcase with a row of books You remove some from within the row that leaves "holes" (FTM equivalent you deleted some reports of charts that you saved etc) You want to create some more room at the end of the bookcase so you compact the books by pushing them together and "filling in" the holes No books are missing but you have compacted the bookcase. Not an ideal analogy but you get the idea? John Donaldson -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tom Herson Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 4:25 AM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: [FTM-TECH] Compacting Because I don't do it on a regular basis, I usually compact my file when someone mentions it, as Linda just did. I was surprised to see that the fle was reduced by 50.5% That's pretty scary. How could that be? Nothing seems to be missing with regard to the number of people, marraiges, etc.

    08/20/2011 04:59:34
    1. Re: [FTM-TECH] Compacting
    2. Linda H Gutierrez
    3. Thank you, Judy! Linda in Costa Rica Monroe County, New York Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys Monroe County, New York History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys -----Original Message----- From: Judy in Ocala Sent: Friday, 19 August, 2011 1:51 PM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Compacting That explains it perfectly, Linda. Judy in Ocala On Aug 19, 2011, at 2:52 PM, "Linda H Gutierrez" <lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr> wrote: > Tom, > > Compacting doesn't do anything to the information in your file. It will > not > change anything or remove anything. > > As I understand it, the way FTM works, each time we make a deletion or > other > change in our file, unused space is created in the file. If you delete a > photo and then add another, the new photo does not take up the space used > by > the one that was deleted. So compacting takes all that unused space and > removes it from the file. > > So the more work you do in your file before you compact it, the higher the > percentage of the compact operation. > > I hope that makes sense. :)

    08/19/2011 04:57:29
    1. Re: [FTM-TECH] Compacting
    2. Tom Herson
    3. Yes, John. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Donaldson" <johndd@iinet.net.au> To: <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 8:59 PM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Compacting > Tom > > Think of a bookcase with a row of books > > You remove some from within the row that leaves "holes" > > (FTM equivalent you deleted some reports of charts that you saved etc) > > You want to create some more room at the end of the bookcase so you > compact > the books by pushing them together and "filling in" the holes > > No books are missing but you have compacted the bookcase. > > Not an ideal analogy but you get the idea? > > > John Donaldson > > -----Original Message----- > From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Tom Herson > Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 4:25 AM > To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com > Subject: [FTM-TECH] Compacting > > Because I don't do it on a regular basis, I usually compact my file when > someone mentions it, as Linda just did. I was surprised to see that the > fle > was reduced by 50.5% That's pretty scary. How could that be? Nothing > seems > to be missing with regard to the number of people, marraiges, etc. > > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Online Support for Family Tree Maker > Version 16 and earlier > http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ > > Version 2008 - 2011 > http://ftm.custhelp.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    08/19/2011 03:49:33
    1. Re: [FTM-TECH] Compacting
    2. Caroline Gurney
    3. Tom, I find that creating and saving reports within FTM significantly increases the size of my file. If I later delete those reports, compacting the file can reduce its size by up to 20%. I compact regularly and can see how someone who does not could easily get to 50% or more. Caroline Gurney On 19 August 2011 19:25, Tom Herson <therson@twcny.rr.com> wrote: > Because I don't do it on a regular basis, I usually compact my file when someone mentions it, as Linda just did. I was surprised to see that the fle was reduced by 50.5%  That's pretty scary. How could that be? Nothing seems to be missing with regard to the number of people, marraiges, etc. > > Tom Herson > Ithaca. NY

    08/19/2011 02:01:30
    1. Re: [FTM-TECH] Compacting
    2. Tom Herson
    3. Thanks, Caroline. I did create several lengthy PDF reports recently, so that is probably what cause the very large % when I compacted. Tom Herson Ithaca, NY ----- Original Message ----- From: "Caroline Gurney" <caroline.gurney@gmail.com> To: <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Compacting Tom, I find that creating and saving reports within FTM significantly increases the size of my file. If I later delete those reports, compacting the file can reduce its size by up to 20%. I compact regularly and can see how someone who does not could easily get to 50% or more. Caroline Gurney On 19 August 2011 19:25, Tom Herson <therson@twcny.rr.com> wrote: > Because I don't do it on a regular basis, I usually compact my file when > someone mentions it, as Linda just did. I was surprised to see that the > fle was reduced by 50.5% That's pretty scary. How could that be? Nothing > seems to be missing with regard to the number of people, marraiges, etc. > > Tom Herson > Ithaca. NY ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/19/2011 11:11:27
    1. Re: [FTM-TECH] Compacting
    2. Tom Herson
    3. No, I haven't David, but I think Lind'as response was probably correct. Tom Ithaca, NY ----- Original Message ----- From: "David C Abernathy" <davidabernathy1@comcast.net> To: <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 2:52 PM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Compacting Tom, Have you gone to a newer version since you did the earlier compact? Thanks, David C Abernathy Email disclaimers ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message represents the official view of the voices in my head. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.SchmeckAbernathy.com == All outgoing and incoming mail is scanned by F-Prot Antivirus == -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tom Herson Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 11:25 AM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: [FTM-TECH] Compacting Because I don't do it on a regular basis, I usually compact my file when someone mentions it, as Linda just did. I was surprised to see that the fle was reduced by 50.5% That's pretty scary. How could that be? Nothing seems to be missing with regard to the number of people, marraiges, etc. Tom Herson Ithaca. NY ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/19/2011 11:09:59
    1. Re: [FTM-TECH] Compacting
    2. Judy in Ocala
    3. That explains it perfectly, Linda. Judy in Ocala On Aug 19, 2011, at 2:52 PM, "Linda H Gutierrez" <lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr> wrote: > Tom, > > Compacting doesn't do anything to the information in your file. It will not > change anything or remove anything. > > As I understand it, the way FTM works, each time we make a deletion or other > change in our file, unused space is created in the file. If you delete a > photo and then add another, the new photo does not take up the space used by > the one that was deleted. So compacting takes all that unused space and > removes it from the file. > > So the more work you do in your file before you compact it, the higher the > percentage of the compact operation. > > I hope that makes sense. :) > > > Linda > in Costa Rica > Monroe County, New York Genealogy > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys > Monroe County, New York History > http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Herson > Sent: Friday, 19 August, 2011 12:25 PM > To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com > Subject: [FTM-TECH] Compacting > > Because I don't do it on a regular basis, I usually compact my file when > someone mentions it, as Linda just did. I was surprised to see that the fle > was reduced by 50.5% That's pretty scary. How could that be? Nothing seems > to be missing with regard to the number of people, marraiges, etc. > > Tom Herson > Ithaca. NY > > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Online Support for Family Tree Maker > Version 16 and earlier > http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ > > Version 2008 - 2011 > http://ftm.custhelp.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/19/2011 09:51:50
    1. Re: [FTM-TECH] Compacting
    2. Sue Pollock
    3. Wouldn't you consider this compacting a bit like defragmenting a hard drive? I know when I add data or merge individuals or create reports, etc. my files will normally compact at least 20%, and I normally compact my file weekly. Sue -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Caroline Gurney Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:02 PM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Compacting Tom, I find that creating and saving reports within FTM significantly increases the size of my file. If I later delete those reports, compacting the file can reduce its size by up to 20%. I compact regularly and can see how someone who does not could easily get to 50% or more. Caroline Gurney

    08/19/2011 09:10:07
    1. Re: [FTM-TECH] Compacting
    2. Rosemary Jones
    3. Compacting is exactly like defragging your hard drive. Instead of doing the whole drive you are just doing the FTM file. Rosemary On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Sue Pollock <suepollock@triad.rr.com>wrote: > Wouldn't you consider this compacting a bit like defragmenting a hard > drive? > I know when I add data or merge individuals or create reports, etc. my > files > will normally compact at least 20%, and I normally compact my file weekly. > > Sue > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Caroline Gurney > Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:02 PM > To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Compacting > > Tom, > > I find that creating and saving reports within FTM significantly > increases the size of my file. If I later delete those reports, > compacting the file can reduce its size by up to 20%. I compact > regularly and can see how someone who does not could easily get to 50% > or more. > > Caroline Gurney > > > > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Online Support for Family Tree Maker > Version 16 and earlier > http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ > > Version 2008 - 2011 > http://ftm.custhelp.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    08/19/2011 08:31:36
    1. Re: [FTM-TECH] Compacting
    2. BJ
    3. I've never experienced this. I use two spaces between sentences and they have not been changed. Just to check this I added a note with double spaces following periods and a colon. I then compacted the file reducing the size by 6%. I checked the note and the double spaces were still there. Compacting does not examine the data. It is examining records and links or addresses. It rebuilds the index addresses i.e. the links between the records. If it finds addresses which are invalid, it removes the addresses and it releases any unused space. Double spaces following periods or colons in notes are not unused space and are not examined during the compacting process. I don't know why your double spaces are disappearing but it is certainly not caused by compacting. BJ On 8/19/2011 2:09 PM, Jeanne Stanis wrote: > I beg to differ about compacting not changing your file. When I type in information, I put two spaces after a colon and between sentences. Compacting removes one space, especially if I compact often. > > > From: BJ<bhamilton3@cox.net> > To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com > Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:10 PM > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Compacting > > Linda is correct in one sense but incorrect in another. As a user adds > > information, saved reports/charts and especially images; FTM adds space > to the file to store this information. If you delete some of these > items again especially images; FTM removes the address information from > the file but it doesn't actually remove the information from the file. > > It simply says the information or image can no longer be found and makes > the space available for other use within the file storage space. So if > > you delete 4 or 5 images, they are no longer available for viewing or > use within the file but the space is still there. If you then add > another image, FTM will reuse this supposedly empty space. It continues > to use the empty space until it is gone. Then it will ask for > additional space. > > When you compact the file, FTM examines all of the addresses, if they > point to unused space, it removes the address and reduces the index > area. All of the empty space is then excluded from the file and there > by can reduce the file size. > > After the file is compacted and the empty space is removed, if you add a > new image, FTM finds there is no empty space and goes to Windows for > additional storage space so the file size begins to grow again. > > In a sense Defragging seems like a valid comparison but it really isn't > the same. As a file grows, it requires additional space from Windows. > Windows provides the additional space but unfortunately, the space is > not adjacent or even close the the existing space allocated. Windows > gets another block of space and enters a link to the new segment of > space. So when you start reading the file, Windows may have to jump > around to different parts of the harddisk. This slows the processing of > the file. The defragging process rearranges all of these segments > (fragmentation) so they are all next to each other. This speeds the > process of reading the file. > > Hope this helps a bit. > > BJ > > On 8/19/2011 11:52 AM, Linda H Gutierrez wrote: >> Compacting doesn't do anything to the information in your file. It will not >> change anything or remove anything. >> >> As I understand it, the way FTM works, each time we make a deletion or other >> change in our file, unused space is created in the file. If you delete a >> photo and then add another, the new photo does not take up the space used by >> the one that was deleted. So compacting takes all that unused space and >> removes it from the file. >> >> So the more work you do in your file before you compact it, the higher the >> percentage of the compact operation. >> > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Online Support for Family Tree Maker > Version 16 and earlier > http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ > > Version 2008 - 2011 > http://ftm.custhelp.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Online Support for Family Tree Maker > Version 16 and earlier > http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ > > Version 2008 - 2011 > http://ftm.custhelp.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1392 / Virus Database: 1520/3844 - Release Date: 08/19/11 > > >

    08/19/2011 08:29:34
    1. [FTM-TECH] Compacting
    2. Tom Herson
    3. Because I don't do it on a regular basis, I usually compact my file when someone mentions it, as Linda just did. I was surprised to see that the fle was reduced by 50.5% That's pretty scary. How could that be? Nothing seems to be missing with regard to the number of people, marraiges, etc. Tom Herson Ithaca. NY

    08/19/2011 08:25:25
    1. Re: [FTM-TECH] Compacting
    2. Jeanne Stanis
    3. I beg to differ about compacting not changing your file.  When I type in information, I put two spaces after a colon and between sentences.  Compacting removes one space, especially if I compact often. From: BJ <bhamilton3@cox.net> To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:10 PM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Compacting Linda is correct in one sense but incorrect in another.  As a user adds information, saved reports/charts and especially images; FTM adds space to the file to store this information.  If you delete some of these items again especially images; FTM removes the address information from the file but it doesn't actually remove the information from the file.  It simply says the information or image can no longer be found and makes the space available for other use within the file storage space.  So if you delete 4 or 5 images, they are no longer available for viewing or use within the file but the space is still there.  If you then add another image, FTM will reuse this supposedly empty space.  It continues to use the empty space until it is gone.  Then it will ask for additional space. When you compact the file, FTM examines all of the addresses, if they point to unused space, it removes the address and reduces the index area.  All of the empty space is then excluded from the file and there by can reduce the file size. After the file is compacted and the empty space is removed, if you add a new image, FTM finds there is no empty space and goes to Windows for additional storage space so the file size begins to grow again. In a sense Defragging seems like a valid comparison but it really isn't the same.  As a file grows, it requires additional space from Windows.  Windows provides the additional space but unfortunately, the space is not adjacent or even close the the existing space allocated.  Windows gets another block of space and enters a link to the new segment of space.  So when you start reading the file, Windows may have to jump around to different parts of the harddisk.  This slows the processing of the file.  The defragging process rearranges all of these segments (fragmentation) so they are all next to each other.  This speeds the process of reading the file. Hope this helps a bit. BJ On 8/19/2011 11:52 AM, Linda H Gutierrez wrote: > Compacting doesn't do anything to the information in your file. It will not > change anything or remove anything. > > As I understand it, the way FTM works, each time we make a deletion or other > change in our file, unused space is created in the file. If you delete a > photo and then add another, the new photo does not take up the space used by > the one that was deleted. So compacting takes all that unused space and > removes it from the file. > > So the more work you do in your file before you compact it, the higher the > percentage of the compact operation. > ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/19/2011 08:09:40
    1. Re: [FTM-TECH] Compacting
    2. BJ
    3. Linda is correct in one sense but incorrect in another. As a user adds information, saved reports/charts and especially images; FTM adds space to the file to store this information. If you delete some of these items again especially images; FTM removes the address information from the file but it doesn't actually remove the information from the file. It simply says the information or image can no longer be found and makes the space available for other use within the file storage space. So if you delete 4 or 5 images, they are no longer available for viewing or use within the file but the space is still there. If you then add another image, FTM will reuse this supposedly empty space. It continues to use the empty space until it is gone. Then it will ask for additional space. When you compact the file, FTM examines all of the addresses, if they point to unused space, it removes the address and reduces the index area. All of the empty space is then excluded from the file and there by can reduce the file size. After the file is compacted and the empty space is removed, if you add a new image, FTM finds there is no empty space and goes to Windows for additional storage space so the file size begins to grow again. In a sense Defragging seems like a valid comparison but it really isn't the same. As a file grows, it requires additional space from Windows. Windows provides the additional space but unfortunately, the space is not adjacent or even close the the existing space allocated. Windows gets another block of space and enters a link to the new segment of space. So when you start reading the file, Windows may have to jump around to different parts of the harddisk. This slows the processing of the file. The defragging process rearranges all of these segments (fragmentation) so they are all next to each other. This speeds the process of reading the file. Hope this helps a bit. BJ On 8/19/2011 11:52 AM, Linda H Gutierrez wrote: > Compacting doesn't do anything to the information in your file. It will not > change anything or remove anything. > > As I understand it, the way FTM works, each time we make a deletion or other > change in our file, unused space is created in the file. If you delete a > photo and then add another, the new photo does not take up the space used by > the one that was deleted. So compacting takes all that unused space and > removes it from the file. > > So the more work you do in your file before you compact it, the higher the > percentage of the compact operation. >

    08/19/2011 07:10:48
    1. Re: [FTM-TECH] Compacting
    2. Linda H Gutierrez
    3. Tom, Compacting doesn't do anything to the information in your file. It will not change anything or remove anything. As I understand it, the way FTM works, each time we make a deletion or other change in our file, unused space is created in the file. If you delete a photo and then add another, the new photo does not take up the space used by the one that was deleted. So compacting takes all that unused space and removes it from the file. So the more work you do in your file before you compact it, the higher the percentage of the compact operation. I hope that makes sense. :) Linda in Costa Rica Monroe County, New York Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys Monroe County, New York History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys -----Original Message----- From: Tom Herson Sent: Friday, 19 August, 2011 12:25 PM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: [FTM-TECH] Compacting Because I don't do it on a regular basis, I usually compact my file when someone mentions it, as Linda just did. I was surprised to see that the fle was reduced by 50.5% That's pretty scary. How could that be? Nothing seems to be missing with regard to the number of people, marraiges, etc. Tom Herson Ithaca. NY

    08/19/2011 06:52:13
    1. Re: [FTM-TECH] Compacting
    2. David C Abernathy
    3. Tom, Have you gone to a newer version since you did the earlier compact? Thanks, David C Abernathy Email disclaimers ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message represents the official view of the voices in my head. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.SchmeckAbernathy.com == All outgoing and incoming mail is scanned by F-Prot Antivirus  == -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tom Herson Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 11:25 AM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: [FTM-TECH] Compacting Because I don't do it on a regular basis, I usually compact my file when someone mentions it, as Linda just did. I was surprised to see that the fle was reduced by 50.5% That's pretty scary. How could that be? Nothing seems to be missing with regard to the number of people, marraiges, etc. Tom Herson Ithaca. NY ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/19/2011 05:52:21
    1. Re: [FTM-TECH] Multiple Spouse Name and Spouse's Parents' Names
    2. John Okerson
    3. > Are you saying FTM 16's custom report lets you include multiple spouses and their parents? Yes, exactly. I'll send you a sample I a PDF off list shortly. John

    08/18/2011 07:49:31
    1. Re: [FTM-TECH] Multiple Spouse Name and Spouse's Parents' Names
    2. Tom Herson
    3. In FTM 2011 the Outline Descendant Tree doesn't seem to pick up the parents of spouses. I think the powers that be should consider allowing FTM 2011 to display Spouse name and Names of Spouse's Parents in a Custom Report. Tom Herson Ithaca, NY ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Okerson" <johnokerson@gmail.com> To: <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 1:15 PM Subject: [FTM-TECH] Multiple Spouse Name and Spouse's Parents' Names >I use FTM 16, but a similar approach might work in 2011. The Outline > Descendant Tree can produce multiple spouses and their parents' names. > The > only way I can export it is as a PDF and attachments are not permitted > IIRC.

    08/18/2011 07:31:00
    1. Re: [FTM-TECH] Spouse Name and Spouse's Parents' Names in Custom Reports FTM 2011
    2. Tom Herson
    3. It's too bad there's not an Other Spouses item to include. That would partially solve the problem I've created ;-) Tom Herson Ithaca, NY ----- Original Message ----- From: "BJ" <bhamilton3@cox.net> To: <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 1:05 PM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Spouse Name and Spouse's Parents' Names in Custom Reports FTM 2011 > No, you always have to have one marked as preferred. Your only option > is to generate the report, change the preferred spouse, generate the > report, etc. > > The only place I have found to change the spouse preference is on > People/Person/Relationship tab. Select the spouse and in the Info pane > (one on the right) check the Preferred box. > > BJ > > On 8/18/2011 9:49 AM, Tom Herson wrote: >> Thank you, BJ. Is there a way to remove a Preferred designation from >> spouses? A dumb question, I know, but I thought I'd ask. >> > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Online Support for Family Tree Maker > Version 16 and earlier > http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ > > Version 2008 - 2011 > http://ftm.custhelp.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    08/18/2011 07:17:04
    1. Re: [FTM-TECH] Spouse Name and Spouse's Parents' Names in Custom Reports FTM 2011
    2. Tom Herson
    3. Thank you, BJ. Is there a way to remove a Preferred designation from spouses? A dumb question, I know, but I thought I'd ask. Tom Herson Ithaca, NY ----- Original Message ----- From: "BJ" <bhamilton3@cox.net> To: <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 12:45 PM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Spouse Name and Spouse's Parents' Names in Custom Reports FTM 2011 > The spouse and spouse's parents included on the report are for the > "preferred" spouse. Unfortunately, removing the include preferred facts > does not cause the other spouses and their parents to be included in the > report. > > BJ > > On 8/18/2011 9:05 AM, Tom Herson wrote: >> I prepared a Custom Report for selected individuals in my family file, >> using Family Tree Maker 2011. Among the facts that I chose to include >> were Spouse Name and Spouse's Parent's Names. When the report was >> generated, I was surprised to find that only the information for the >> first spouse and his/her parents was included. >> >> Is there a way to include ALL spouses/partners of an individual in >> such a custom report? I noticed that all the marriage information >> (date/location/description) is displayed for all marriages but, as I >> said, all the spouse names and the names of all the spouses parents are >> not displayed. >> >> I'd appreciate any help the group can provide. >> > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Online Support for Family Tree Maker > Version 16 and earlier > http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ > > Version 2008 - 2011 > http://ftm.custhelp.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

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