In theory things changed with FTM2011 in that the changes were supposed to remain after closing and restarting. Tara Pedersen wrote the Blog article extolling the virtues to be met with a deluge of responses that it didn't work and said she was going to look into it and report back what she discovered. The response is still awaited. Having looked at the way it puts together the list it seemed to me that rather than record the last 200 names to be edited, it recorded the last 200 edits. In theory you might have at the most extreme only one name, but most likely somewhere in the middle. Tony -----Original Message----- From: Rosemary Jones Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 4:19 PM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Repair of FTM-2011 tree It was that way with FTM2010 for me as well. It has never really worked. Rosemary On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 12:19 AM, Caroline Gurney <caroline.gurney@gmail.com>wrote: > I have had the same problems with History that Richard and Mary > describe. It works intermittently at best and, even when it does work, > the entries are lost when the file is closed. I have read many similar > complaints so it is clearly a fault with the FTM 2011 software and > not with our individual databases. > > Caroline Gurney > > http://www.carosfamily.com > http://cmgurney.blogspot.com > > > > > On 4 October 2011 06:07, Mary Ellis <mwellis@triad.rr.com> wrote: > > I was going to ask about this the other day. My history file never > > changes... all are 2010 entries. It was very useful while it lasted. > > > > Mary > > > > On 10/4/2011 12:56 AM, Richard Humphrey wrote: > >> A bit ago a blog posting discussed the usefulness of history > >> information > in > >> FTM and I looked again at this feature. When I make changes in my > FTM2011 > >> tree, they are appropriately listed in the history. HOWEVER, once the > tree > >> file is closed (FTM not even shut down) and then re-opened, the history > no > >> longer shows the changes made in that previous session. > >> > >> > >> > >> Although there are some history entries showing, it is the same every > time > >> the tree is opened. In my tree most of the entries are dated in > September > >> 2009. My tree started back in the FTM for Windows days and has been > migrated > >> upwards as each new FTM version has been released. I wonder if some > kind of > >> file corruption has occurred. > >> > >> > >> > >> I presented tech support with this issue and the response went only as > far > >> as that published to date in the Knowledge Base, etc. "Upload your tree > to > >> ancestry and then back down again via GEDCOM, etc." For a number of > >> reasons, I do not want to do this. > >> > >> > >> > >> Query: There must be software tools available to inspect and adjust the > >> different components (tables, etc.) in the FTM tree file. For example: > Is > >> it possible to just 'zap' the contents of my history file table so that > it > >> could resume normal operation? > >> > >> > >> > >> In general, are there tools/services available for things like this? > Might > >> there be a resource - with or without charge - for a user to have their > tree > >> "repaired"? From whom? Ancestry, Hire an Expert or ?? > >> > >> > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Richard > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Online Support for Family Tree Maker > Version 16 and earlier > http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ > > Version 2008 - 2011 > http://ftm.custhelp.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
It was that way with FTM2010 for me as well. It has never really worked. Rosemary On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 12:19 AM, Caroline Gurney <caroline.gurney@gmail.com>wrote: > I have had the same problems with History that Richard and Mary > describe. It works intermittently at best and, even when it does work, > the entries are lost when the file is closed. I have read many similar > complaints so it is clearly a fault with the FTM 2011 software and > not with our individual databases. > > Caroline Gurney > > http://www.carosfamily.com > http://cmgurney.blogspot.com > > > > > On 4 October 2011 06:07, Mary Ellis <mwellis@triad.rr.com> wrote: > > I was going to ask about this the other day. My history file never > > changes... all are 2010 entries. It was very useful while it lasted. > > > > Mary > > > > On 10/4/2011 12:56 AM, Richard Humphrey wrote: > >> A bit ago a blog posting discussed the usefulness of history information > in > >> FTM and I looked again at this feature. When I make changes in my > FTM2011 > >> tree, they are appropriately listed in the history. HOWEVER, once the > tree > >> file is closed (FTM not even shut down) and then re-opened, the history > no > >> longer shows the changes made in that previous session. > >> > >> > >> > >> Although there are some history entries showing, it is the same every > time > >> the tree is opened. In my tree most of the entries are dated in > September > >> 2009. My tree started back in the FTM for Windows days and has been > migrated > >> upwards as each new FTM version has been released. I wonder if some > kind of > >> file corruption has occurred. > >> > >> > >> > >> I presented tech support with this issue and the response went only as > far > >> as that published to date in the Knowledge Base, etc. "Upload your tree > to > >> ancestry and then back down again via GEDCOM, etc." For a number of > >> reasons, I do not want to do this. > >> > >> > >> > >> Query: There must be software tools available to inspect and adjust the > >> different components (tables, etc.) in the FTM tree file. For example: > Is > >> it possible to just 'zap' the contents of my history file table so that > it > >> could resume normal operation? > >> > >> > >> > >> In general, are there tools/services available for things like this? > Might > >> there be a resource - with or without charge - for a user to have their > tree > >> "repaired"? From whom? Ancestry, Hire an Expert or ?? > >> > >> > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Richard > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Online Support for Family Tree Maker > Version 16 and earlier > http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ > > Version 2008 - 2011 > http://ftm.custhelp.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
I don't use the History feature all that much but yesterday I tested it in FTM 2011. I made a change to an individual by adding a new act and inputting a date. I then deleted the fact. The FTM 2011 history recorded the following three events. Added the fact, Changed the fact and Deleted the fact. I then closed the file and reopened it. I checked the individual and the changes had been made and retained. Next I checked the history for the individual and the history records were missing; so closing and reopening the file removes the history records. I suspect that Tana did look into it and found it was not working. By this time they were probably planning for the new version, FTM 2012. While this may not be too comforting to those who intend to stay with FTM 2011, I did test it in my new copy of FTM 2012 and the history records are being retained after the file is closed and reopened. Unfortunately there is still a minor problem concerning the Date/Time stamp. When you make a change to an individual's fact, the change is identified and the date and time of the change is recorded. This seems to be accurate; however, after the file is closed and reopened, the date/time stamp is changed dramatically. The date/time stamp seems to be changed each time you close and reopen the file. Hope this helps those who are interested in the history feature. BJ On 10/4/2011 8:46 AM, Tony Knight wrote: > In theory things changed with FTM2011 in that the changes were supposed to > remain after closing and restarting. > > Tara Pedersen wrote the Blog article extolling the virtues to be met with a > deluge of responses that it didn't work and said she was going to look into > it and report back what she discovered. The response is still awaited. > > Having looked at the way it puts together the list it seemed to me that > rather than record the last 200 names to be edited, it recorded the last 200 > edits. In theory you might have at the most extreme only one name, but most > likely somewhere in the middle.
I have just opened up all 8 of my trees in 2011 and they all have the History. I have never really used History, but I have not had issues when I do. Are any of you by chance clicking on the "Bookmarks" instead, I did a couple of times, going through my list of trees? Thanks, David C Abernathy Email disclaimers ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message represents the official view of the voices in my head. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.SchmeckAbernathy.com == All outgoing and incoming mail is scanned by F-Prot Antivirus == -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Rosemary Jones Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 8:19 AM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Repair of FTM-2011 tree It was that way with FTM2010 for me as well. It has never really worked. Rosemary On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 12:19 AM, Caroline Gurney <caroline.gurney@gmail.com>wrote: > I have had the same problems with History that Richard and Mary > describe. It works intermittently at best and, even when it does work, > the entries are lost when the file is closed. I have read many similar > complaints so it is clearly a fault with the FTM 2011 software and > not with our individual databases. > > Caroline Gurney > > http://www.carosfamily.com > http://cmgurney.blogspot.com > > > > > On 4 October 2011 06:07, Mary Ellis <mwellis@triad.rr.com> wrote: > > I was going to ask about this the other day. My history file never > > changes... all are 2010 entries. It was very useful while it lasted. > > > > Mary > > > > On 10/4/2011 12:56 AM, Richard Humphrey wrote: > >> A bit ago a blog posting discussed the usefulness of history information > in > >> FTM and I looked again at this feature. When I make changes in my > FTM2011 > >> tree, they are appropriately listed in the history. HOWEVER, once the > tree > >> file is closed (FTM not even shut down) and then re-opened, the history > no > >> longer shows the changes made in that previous session. > >> > >> > >> > >> Although there are some history entries showing, it is the same every > time > >> the tree is opened. In my tree most of the entries are dated in > September > >> 2009. My tree started back in the FTM for Windows days and has been > migrated > >> upwards as each new FTM version has been released. I wonder if some > kind of > >> file corruption has occurred. > >> > >> > >> > >> I presented tech support with this issue and the response went only as > far > >> as that published to date in the Knowledge Base, etc. "Upload your tree > to > >> ancestry and then back down again via GEDCOM, etc." For a number of > >> reasons, I do not want to do this. > >> > >> > >> > >> Query: There must be software tools available to inspect and adjust the > >> different components (tables, etc.) in the FTM tree file. For example: > Is > >> it possible to just 'zap' the contents of my history file table so that > it > >> could resume normal operation? > >> > >> > >> > >> In general, are there tools/services available for things like this? > Might > >> there be a resource - with or without charge - for a user to have their > tree > >> "repaired"? From whom? Ancestry, Hire an Expert or ?? > >> > >> > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Richard > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Online Support for Family Tree Maker > Version 16 and earlier > http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ > > Version 2008 - 2011 > http://ftm.custhelp.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I have had the same problems with History that Richard and Mary describe. It works intermittently at best and, even when it does work, the entries are lost when the file is closed. I have read many similar complaints so it is clearly a fault with the FTM 2011 software and not with our individual databases. Caroline Gurney http://www.carosfamily.com http://cmgurney.blogspot.com On 4 October 2011 06:07, Mary Ellis <mwellis@triad.rr.com> wrote: > I was going to ask about this the other day. My history file never > changes... all are 2010 entries. It was very useful while it lasted. > > Mary > > On 10/4/2011 12:56 AM, Richard Humphrey wrote: >> A bit ago a blog posting discussed the usefulness of history information in >> FTM and I looked again at this feature. When I make changes in my FTM2011 >> tree, they are appropriately listed in the history. HOWEVER, once the tree >> file is closed (FTM not even shut down) and then re-opened, the history no >> longer shows the changes made in that previous session. >> >> >> >> Although there are some history entries showing, it is the same every time >> the tree is opened. In my tree most of the entries are dated in September >> 2009. My tree started back in the FTM for Windows days and has been migrated >> upwards as each new FTM version has been released. I wonder if some kind of >> file corruption has occurred. >> >> >> >> I presented tech support with this issue and the response went only as far >> as that published to date in the Knowledge Base, etc. "Upload your tree to >> ancestry and then back down again via GEDCOM, etc." For a number of >> reasons, I do not want to do this. >> >> >> >> Query: There must be software tools available to inspect and adjust the >> different components (tables, etc.) in the FTM tree file. For example: Is >> it possible to just 'zap' the contents of my history file table so that it >> could resume normal operation? >> >> >> >> In general, are there tools/services available for things like this? Might >> there be a resource - with or without charge - for a user to have their tree >> "repaired"? From whom? Ancestry, Hire an Expert or ?? >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Richard
I was going to ask about this the other day. My history file never changes... all are 2010 entries. It was very useful while it lasted. Mary On 10/4/2011 12:56 AM, Richard Humphrey wrote: > A bit ago a blog posting discussed the usefulness of history information in > FTM and I looked again at this feature. When I make changes in my FTM2011 > tree, they are appropriately listed in the history. HOWEVER, once the tree > file is closed (FTM not even shut down) and then re-opened, the history no > longer shows the changes made in that previous session. > > > > Although there are some history entries showing, it is the same every time > the tree is opened. In my tree most of the entries are dated in September > 2009. My tree started back in the FTM for Windows days and has been migrated > upwards as each new FTM version has been released. I wonder if some kind of > file corruption has occurred. > > > > I presented tech support with this issue and the response went only as far > as that published to date in the Knowledge Base, etc. "Upload your tree to > ancestry and then back down again via GEDCOM, etc." For a number of > reasons, I do not want to do this. > > > > Query: There must be software tools available to inspect and adjust the > different components (tables, etc.) in the FTM tree file. For example: Is > it possible to just 'zap' the contents of my history file table so that it > could resume normal operation? > > > > In general, are there tools/services available for things like this? Might > there be a resource - with or without charge - for a user to have their tree > "repaired"? From whom? Ancestry, Hire an Expert or ?? > > > > Thanks, > > Richard > > > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Online Support for Family Tree Maker > Version 16 and earlier > http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ > > Version 2008 - 2011 > http://ftm.custhelp.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Mary W. Ellis Registrar Battle of Alamance DAR http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ncacgs/ http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mwellis/ http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ncalaman/ (Brick Church site)
Thank you. Easy once you know how, eh. LOL Ali ----- Original Message ----- From: John Boyd To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 11:04 PM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Suggested entry fields People view. Click on Person Tab, and then the + in upper right corner to Add a Fact. Add Name, and you can enter an alternate Name John & Kathleen -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ali Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 9:27 PM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Suggested entry fields FTM 2011. My apologies, I should have mentioned it in my first posting. Ali ----- Original Message ----- From: John Boyd To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 8:50 PM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Suggested entry fields Ali, What version of FTM are you using? John & Kathleen -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ali Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 7:29 PM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Suggested entry fields Russ The original message wasn't mine but it was something I was interested in as I have the same problem with a few of my relatives. I'm still not sure where to find where to add an alternate name. I do not want to use the AKA as it doesn't show properly in reports, etc. Ali ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
The genealogy report is a text report and you cannot include any media items within any text report. There is only one report which lets the user see all of the media items and how they are linked. This is the Publish, Media, Media Usage report. BJ On 10/3/2011 10:00 PM, Jim Rader wrote: > How do you tell FTM 2012 to include ALL media items in a genealogy report >
FTM 2011. My apologies, I should have mentioned it in my first posting. Ali ----- Original Message ----- From: John Boyd To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 8:50 PM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Suggested entry fields Ali, What version of FTM are you using? John & Kathleen -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ali Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 7:29 PM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Suggested entry fields Russ The original message wasn't mine but it was something I was interested in as I have the same problem with a few of my relatives. I'm still not sure where to find where to add an alternate name. I do not want to use the AKA as it doesn't show properly in reports, etc. Ali ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
People view. Click on Person Tab, and then the + in upper right corner to Add a Fact. Add Name, and you can enter an alternate Name John & Kathleen -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ali Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 9:27 PM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Suggested entry fields FTM 2011. My apologies, I should have mentioned it in my first posting. Ali ----- Original Message ----- From: John Boyd To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 8:50 PM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Suggested entry fields Ali, What version of FTM are you using? John & Kathleen -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ali Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 7:29 PM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Suggested entry fields Russ The original message wasn't mine but it was something I was interested in as I have the same problem with a few of my relatives. I'm still not sure where to find where to add an alternate name. I do not want to use the AKA as it doesn't show properly in reports, etc. Ali ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
How do you tell FTM 2012 to include ALL media items in a genealogy report Jim Rader (916) 366-6833 jim@rader.org www.rader.org 5417 Whitehaven Way Antelope, CA 95843
A bit ago a blog posting discussed the usefulness of history information in FTM and I looked again at this feature. When I make changes in my FTM2011 tree, they are appropriately listed in the history. HOWEVER, once the tree file is closed (FTM not even shut down) and then re-opened, the history no longer shows the changes made in that previous session. Although there are some history entries showing, it is the same every time the tree is opened. In my tree most of the entries are dated in September 2009. My tree started back in the FTM for Windows days and has been migrated upwards as each new FTM version has been released. I wonder if some kind of file corruption has occurred. I presented tech support with this issue and the response went only as far as that published to date in the Knowledge Base, etc. "Upload your tree to ancestry and then back down again via GEDCOM, etc." For a number of reasons, I do not want to do this. Query: There must be software tools available to inspect and adjust the different components (tables, etc.) in the FTM tree file. For example: Is it possible to just 'zap' the contents of my history file table so that it could resume normal operation? In general, are there tools/services available for things like this? Might there be a resource - with or without charge - for a user to have their tree "repaired"? From whom? Ancestry, Hire an Expert or ?? Thanks, Richard
Russ The original message wasn't mine but it was something I was interested in as I have the same problem with a few of my relatives. I'm still not sure where to find where to add an alternate name. I do not want to use the AKA as it doesn't show properly in reports, etc. Ali ----- Original Message ----- From: H R Worthington To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 6:03 PM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Suggested entry fields Ali, The Name Fact can be used multiple times. But, in your earlier example, isn't "Eileen" "also known as"? You would enter her name as Patricia Eileen Smith The add the Fact AKA and put "Eileen" in that field. When doing Charts and Reports, you might want to include the AKA as part of the name options. Just a thought. ___________________________ Russ Mailto:rworthington@att.net ________________________________ From: Ali <avws2601@sympatico.ca> To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, October 3, 2011 5:48:28 PM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Suggested entry fields BJ Where do you find the place to add an alternate name? Do you add the name as Eileen Smith or Eileen Patricia Smith? ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Ali, What version of FTM are you using? John & Kathleen -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ali Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 7:29 PM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Suggested entry fields Russ The original message wasn't mine but it was something I was interested in as I have the same problem with a few of my relatives. I'm still not sure where to find where to add an alternate name. I do not want to use the AKA as it doesn't show properly in reports, etc. Ali
BJ Where do you find the place to add an alternate name? Do you add the name as Eileen Smith or Eileen Patricia Smith? Ali ----- Original Message ----- From: BJ To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Suggested entry fields I simply add it as an alternate name which I then mark as "Preferred". That way it is easy to to find and everyone knows how the individual is called. If I need to use the complete name, I can always easily change the "Preferred" option. I use this because many people "go" by many different variations of their given name and trying to code the program to account for all of the possible combinations is impossible besides the researcher would still be faced with the problem of selecting and designating an option. BJ On 9/30/2011 6:35 AM, Bridgett Chapman wrote: > Me too. Sometimes it is hard to find an individual when they were known > by the middle name. > > -----Original Message----- > From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of LouDean > Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 10:16 PM > To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Suggested entry fields > > And it would be nice to have a choice for when only one given name is used > and you want it to be the middle instead of the first. For example what if > your name is Patricia Eileen Smith and you are called Eileen, not Patricia. > I wish you could choose for Eileen to be used in the parts of reports where > they only use one name. Lots of people go by their middle names. > ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I'm sorry, I should have been more explicit about the term "Alternate" name. As Russ pointed out, it is simply a second Name fact entry. I quite often have a number of alternate names for individuals as I have found the additional names or alternate spellings on certain documents. By using multiple name facts, I can track the differences but I can also select the one that I prefer to be used. If I run a report, I can elect to either display only the Preferred name or alternately display all alternate names (those which are not marked as "preferred". I did not suggest using the "AKA" or "Also Known As" fact because I use that field for a very specific instance i.e. for a Nickname; for example John Fitzpatrick "Jack" Kennedy . You could certainly use the AKA fact to store the name "Eileen". However, there are a several of things I don't like about using the AKA. The Tools, Options, Names tab contains a couple of options for including the AKA fact. You can do either or both options. 1. The first option lets you include it within the preferred name so the Index displays it as Patricia Eileen "Eileen" Smith. 2. The second option is to display the AKA as a separate entry. When you use this option, the index will display, "Eileen" as its own entry which is sorted within the "E's". 3. You cannot use the AKA as a search parameter in the Web Search. If you are like me, I have an individual who was named Doublieu Saunders. When she was eighteen, she started using the name Eva Viola Saunders. Well I entered her name a Eva Viola Saunders with "Doublieu" as an AKA. I cannot get the web search to use Doublieu Saunders as a search parameter which is the name used on the first US Census on which she is found at the age of 1/4. Basically I find it much easier to use alternate names than I do to use AKA but that is my own personal preference. You should examine each circumstance and decide which technique accomplishes your goal. Hope that answers your question. BJ On 10/3/2011 2:48 PM, Ali wrote: > BJ > Where do you find the place to add an alternate name? Do you add the name as Eileen Smith or Eileen Patricia Smith? > Ali > ----- Original Message ----- > From: BJ > To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com > Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 9:58 AM > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Suggested entry fields > > > I simply add it as an alternate name which I then mark as "Preferred". > That way it is easy to to find and everyone knows how the individual is > called. If I need to use the complete name, I can always easily change > the "Preferred" option. > > I use this because many people "go" by many different variations of > their given name and trying to code the program to account for all of > the possible combinations is impossible besides the researcher would > still be faced with the problem of selecting and designating an option. > > BJ > > On 9/30/2011 6:35 AM, Bridgett Chapman wrote: > > Me too. Sometimes it is hard to find an individual when they were known > > by the middle name. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] > > On Behalf Of LouDean > > Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 10:16 PM > > To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Suggested entry fields > > > > And it would be nice to have a choice for when only one given name is used > > and you want it to be the middle instead of the first. For example what if > > your name is Patricia Eileen Smith and you are called Eileen, not Patricia. > > I wish you could choose for Eileen to be used in the parts of reports where > > they only use one name. Lots of people go by their middle names. > > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Online Support for Family Tree Maker > Version 16 and earlier > http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ > > Version 2008 - 2011 > http://ftm.custhelp.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Online Support for Family Tree Maker > Version 16 and earlier > http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ > > Version 2008 - 2011 > http://ftm.custhelp.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1410 / Virus Database: 1520/3935 - Release Date: 10/03/11 > >
Ali, The Name Fact can be used multiple times. But, in your earlier example, isn't "Eileen" "also known as"? You would enter her name as Patricia Eileen Smith The add the Fact AKA and put "Eileen" in that field. When doing Charts and Reports, you might want to include the AKA as part of the name options. Just a thought. ___________________________ Russ Mailto:rworthington@att.net ________________________________ From: Ali <avws2601@sympatico.ca> To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, October 3, 2011 5:48:28 PM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Suggested entry fields BJ Where do you find the place to add an alternate name? Do you add the name as Eileen Smith or Eileen Patricia Smith?
Have you considered using the AKA field to do this? The way I do it is different again I put the AK in ( ) So Herman (Buck) Donaldson John Donaldson -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of LouDean Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 12:16 PM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Suggested entry fields And it would be nice to have a choice for when only one given name is used and you want it to be the middle instead of the first. For example what if your name is Patricia Eileen Smith and you are called Eileen, not Patricia. I wish you could choose for Eileen to be used in the parts of reports where they only use one name. Lots of people go by their middle names.
I enter the alternate name in the NAME fact. That way names whoe up in the Index. Tom Herson Ithaca, NY ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bridgett Chapman" <bjsc1@frontier.com> To: <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 9:35 AM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Suggested entry fields > Me too. Sometimes it is hard to find an individual when they were known > by the middle name. > > -----Original Message----- > From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of LouDean > Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 10:16 PM > To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Suggested entry fields > > And it would be nice to have a choice for when only one given name is used > and you want it to be the middle instead of the first. For example what > if > your name is Patricia Eileen Smith and you are called Eileen, not > Patricia. > I wish you could choose for Eileen to be used in the parts of reports > where > they only use one name. Lots of people go by their middle names. > > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Online Support for Family Tree Maker > Version 16 and earlier > http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ > > Version 2008 - 2011 > http://ftm.custhelp.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Me too. Sometimes it is hard to find an individual when they were known by the middle name. -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of LouDean Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 10:16 PM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Suggested entry fields And it would be nice to have a choice for when only one given name is used and you want it to be the middle instead of the first. For example what if your name is Patricia Eileen Smith and you are called Eileen, not Patricia. I wish you could choose for Eileen to be used in the parts of reports where they only use one name. Lots of people go by their middle names.