Yes, but as usual, half of what we get is marketing fluff.. Still not sold on the newer versions. However, I am tempted to switch. Possibly will when I get a newer computer. Thanks for your advice. Russell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda H Gutierrez" <lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr> To: <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] FTM 2012 view vs v16 view -how to switch? >I believe that they were referring to the People Workspace only, as that is > the primary view in FTM 16 and where most do the majority of their data > entry. > > > Linda > in Costa Rica > Monroe County, New York Genealogy > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys > Monroe County, New York History > http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys > > -----Original Message----- > From: Russell Casey > Sent: Saturday, 15 October, 2011 2:03 PM > To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] FTM 2012 view vs v16 view -how to switch? > > Oh, I figured it out. I have used 2008, 2009, 2010 and 2011. I am > disappointed in the poor representation by the marketing people for 2012. > This is nothing really new. The marketing information implied there was a > v16 like interface. IMO, it is nothing of the sort. > > > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Online Support for Family Tree Maker > Version 16 and earlier > http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ > > Version 2008 - 2011 > http://ftm.custhelp.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Judy Ok - when back tracking over my searching, you are totally correct.  I looked at the Mac Store NOT the iPad Store - doh!! So perhaps we should make this thread closed!! Thanks for checking, lets hope FTM get themselves into gear and produce some useful apps for both Android and iPad. Regards Carol   Carol, to my knowledge there is no FTM app for iPad or iPhone. I did a search on iTunes and found nothing. There is however an Ancestry app. It works by reading your online tree at Ancestry.com. There is two way synching between Ancestry.com and your iDevice. It is great for traveling. And it's free! What you saw may have been the software package for Macintosh computers, but computer software isn't usually available on iTunes. Judy in Ocala On Oct 15, 2011, at 4:30 PM, Family History <grfamhistory@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

Hello John, Thank you for those thoughts, it is just that I am looking at the present, and to the best of my knowledge Windows 8 is not due till late 2012, or 2013. Enjoy Life. Never promise, but will always try. Regards, Bob Sangster Be cautious buying a netbook computer!! While Linda is fully accurate with Windows 7, I urge you to consider the prospect of Windows 8 too. That would require a higher-than-netbook video resolution minimum, as best I know. I can't come across it just this moment, but have seen several suggestions AGAINST a netbook and Windows 8. On the other hand, the ultrabooks that are planned for 2012 and 2013 seemed headed in a fine direction IMHO. OTOH, if your plans would allow for updating a netbook IF and WHEN such a need presents itself, then I have no problem with what you and Linda have in mind. I have run conventional notebook PCs with 3 720K floppy drives even though NOW, my dataset would not fit on a single 720K floppy these days. I do have an i7 equipped notebook, 8 GB of RAM and carry a 64 GB USB 3.0 thumbdrive around with me daily. If your plans are to carry a copy of your file and NOT make ANY edits in the file, then a netbook could work for the near term. Just my two cents worth! John Okerson from Memphis, TN ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Tony, I would have to agree with your comment, but over the years I have lost track of the times I visited a Record Office with just paper records and a pencil, and then found when back at home found other ancestors that I should/could have looked for when there. There is only a certain amount of paper records one can carry. On another point for the 'non-english'. At retirement, we are given free travel on most bus routes, and if planned right, can travel nearly anywhere for free. There, there still is something good about the 'old country'. (Smile please). Enjoy Life. Never promise, but will always try. Regards, Bob Sangster -----Original Message----- From: Tony Knight <tony@ritter.demon.co.uk> To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 21:36 Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] What product is best? Bob Of course a good old fashioned notebook and pencils leaves the money to be spent on other things. Visiting Record Offices etc can be expensive even with our free bus passes. Tony

Again, Linda, you have answered my query, thank you. Enjoy Life. Never promise, but will always try. Regards, Bob Sangster -----Original Message----- From: Linda H Gutierrez <lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr> To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 21:12 Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] FTM 2012 Sync Bob, Yes of course you can upload without your images. Just create a copy of your file from the File Menu, click on Export and deselect "Include Media Files". Then open that new file in FTM 2012 and upload and sync it to an Ancestry Member Tree (AMT). Linda in Costa Rica Monroe County, New York Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys Monroe County, New York History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys -----Original Message----- From: Bob Sangster Sent: Saturday, 15 October, 2011 1:56 PM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: [FTM-TECH] FTM 2012 Sync Further to my earlier post re. FTM on a portable unit, one reply mentioned using the 'Sync' facility within FTM2012, and that makes me ask another question: My file (to date), includes 2000 + scans etc of Census/Church records/Cert's etc. Now does that mean I have to up-load my file including images, or is it possible to upload my file 'without' images? I have FTM 2012, but have not yet installed it, so before I do, this question could make me decide wether to use the 'sync' facility on installation. Enjoy Life. Never promise, but will always try. Regards, Bob Sangster ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Linda, A big thank you. Your answer just about sums up what I was asking advise about. The points about RAM and which version of Windows to use was handy, and I had never thought about the keyboard aspect. I find using a 'screen keyboard' un-comfortable to use, and forgot all about that aspect. In short: A 10/12 inch netbook with 2gb ram, and Windows Home Premium looks a good possibility. As too which make, well that 'could' depend on good old Father Christmas, and yes, I still believe even though retired, me that is. 8>)) It costs nothing to ask, but can save more than cash when answered, so, again, a big thank you. Enjoy Life. Never promise, but will always try. Regards, Bob Sangster -----Original Message----- From: Linda H Gutierrez <lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr> To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 21:05 Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] What product is best? Bob, My recommendation, based on what you do and do not want would be a netbook or mini laptop, 10-12 inches in size, they are small and easy to store, have the Windows OS and will run FTM - including the latest version - on them. I have a 10 inch mini that came with Windows 7 Basic and 1 GB of RAM. It is quite sufficient for going online, the screen size certainly smaller but easy enough to work with and for simple tasks. I ended up upgrading it to Windows Home Premium because I did not like the limitations of the Basic version, although it functions well enough. But I did not upgrade the RAM (as of yet) and I am paying for that! If you plan to run FTM 2012 on it you would be happier with 2 GB of RAM. It works fine, but is SLOW!! I have installed all of my important programs such as MS Office, FTM, DTP software and a few others. Of course the more you install, the slower the performance, boot up time, etc. As I have it set now, the battery lasts a good 4 hours. If I were to remove some things, including the upgrade to Home Premium and lower the power settings it would last up to at least 6 hours. The one I have is put out by HP but of course there are several other brands to choose from. The nice thing about HP (not sure about the other brands) is that it comes with HP's own software that will boot at start-up (you can change it if you want to) and comes up ready to use in less than 30 seconds. You can surf the web and check mail easily with their application or boot to Windows and have more options available. I find the size is great for traveling, especially on an airplane as I can easily set it on the tray to watch a video or view my files or whatever I wish to do. And of course they come with a keyboard as opposed to the virtual type on the tablets now being marketed. I hope that this is of some help in making your decision. Linda in Costa Rica Monroe County, New York Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys Monroe County, New York History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys

http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/13/windows-8-for-tablets-hands-on-preview/ Our test mule was none other than Samsung's Series 7 Slate PC -- the same rig that we first spotted merely days ago. The difference, of course, is the OS. This one's rocking Windows 8 (and dubbed a "developer PC"), whereas the preview shown at the tail-end of August was boasting Windows 7. We couldn't share the inner secrets of the test hardware while the opening Build keynote was ongoing, but now that it's wrapped, we're in the clear. The Series 7 sports a 400 nit, 11.6-inch capacitive panel (1366 x 768 resolution), Intel's 1.6GHz Core i5-2467M CPU with integrated graphics, a 64GB SSD and 4GB of RAM. On the front there's a 2 megapixel camera and a light sensor, and around the back sits a 3 megapixel shooter. Connectivity comes courtesy of 802.11 b/g/n WiFi, plus there's a USB 2.0 port and a micro HDMI socket. No matter how you slice it, that's a lot of horsepower for a slate. We can't be certain that every Win8 tablet will boast the same level of oomph once these begin hitting the market at some point next year (right, Microsoft?), but we're downright enamored with how well a full-on desktop OS ran with this hardware. All told, it was a remarkably smooth experience, save for a few seconds of lag found when launching more complex applications. But it's important to remember what's going on here; unlike the iPad or insert-your-favorite-Android-slate-here, this is a full operating system, and the fact that it's smooth on any level with this hardware behind it is a feat worthy of laud. ... http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/31/samsungs-series-7-slate-pc-hands-on/ It comes in four versions that differ in storage size and flavor of Windows, but all are .5 inches thin, weigh 2.03 pounds, and are swathed in brushed aluminum. There are 64GB SSD variants packing Home Premium for $1,099 or Pro for $1,199, while the 128GB models come with Home Premium, a dock and keyboard for $1349 or Pro sans the peripherals at the same price. They're all scheduled for a late September release, so it won't be long before you can pick one up. ... We also got to see the optional dock and keyboard, and thought both of them to be worthy additions to the tablet experience. The dock, which has HDMI, Ethernet and USB ports, has a solid heft to it, and is coated in the same brushed aluminum as the slate itself. The Bluetooth keyboard is razor thin, and the keys were satisfyingly clicky. Overall, we can see the appeal here -- tablet portability with full Windows functionality. However, at such steep prices, we'll have to wait and see if folks just buy a netbook and a Galaxy Tab 10.1 or an iPad instead. This sort of "product" is shown as running Windows 8 and fairly well too.

Oh, I figured it out. I have used 2008, 2009, 2010 and 2011. I am disappointed in the poor representation by the marketing people for 2012. This is nothing really new. The marketing information implied there was a v16 like interface. IMO, it is nothing of the sort. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda H Gutierrez" <lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr> To: <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] FTM 2012 view vs v16 view -how to switch? > Russell, > > On the People Workspace, if you collapse both the Index (left hand panel) > and the Pedigree view, then you have a closer screen to that of FTM 16. > the > main difference being the entry panel on the right. When FTM 2012 is > installed, if it does not detect anything from versions FTM 2008-2001, > then > that is the view that is presented after it is first installed. You can > get > that view any time that you like by simply collapsing those two portions > of > the screen. > > If you are not sure how to collapse those views then look in the Companion > Guide, information for collapsing those views should be there. If you > don't > find it and still can't figure it out, write back and I can send you a > couple of screen shots off list. > > > Linda > in Costa Rica > Monroe County, New York Genealogy > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys > Monroe County, New York History > http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys > > -----Original Message----- > From: Russell Casey > Sent: Saturday, 15 October, 2011 10:06 AM > To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] FTM 2012 view vs v16 view -how to switch? > > Everyone, thanks > > Not really replicating the versions 16 display. Looks like marketing > people > decided that one. I hope the rest of the update offers more substance. > > Russell > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "BJ" <bhamilton3@cox.net> > To: <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 9:08 AM > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] FTM 2012 view vs v16 view -how to switch? > > >> One of the main complaint of users converting from earlier versions of >> FTM to FTM 20xx programs has been the difference between the displays. >> Many think the display in FTM 2011 is too complicated. As a result, the >> developers decided to try to make it less daunting to people >> converting. So when the installation program detects the user is >> installing using a FTM 16 file, it automatically collapses the left hand >> panel (index). So to switch between the "faux" FTM 16 look and the FTM >> 2012 look, simply click the arrow at the top of the left panel or you >> can click and drag using the series of dots about mid level on the left >> of the panel. >> >> I'm sure the John D like many others who answer provide more information >> than may be necessary for the current question because we recognize >> there are many who lurk on the list with various levels of expertise. >> We attempt to provide sufficient guidance so the less experienced will >> gain a better understanding of the program and the questions being >> answered. >> >> Bj >> >> On 10/15/2011 4:18 AM, Russell Casey wrote: >>> lot of suggestions here. While I am not an expert, I am not a first >>> time >>> user of FTM. >>> >>> >>> John Donaldson wrote: >>> >>>> All the so-called v16 view is the FTM 2012 family view with the LH >>>> panel >>>> minimized >>>> >>>> I suggest that you explore how to configure your family view screen by >>>> dragging the panels >>>> >>>> I would also strongly suggest that you go into FTM Help and run through >>>> the >>>> training tutorials and also have a look at the various FTM webinars on >>>> this >>>> link. http://learn.ancestry.com/LearnMore/Webinars.aspx >>>> >>>> You will have to scroll through the list to find the FTM ones, there >>>> are >>>> about 4 or 5 of them over the last few years. >>>> >>>> Also have you opened the 300+ page Companion Guide on your Help menu? >>>> It >>>> is >>>> a good PDF book on FTM > > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Online Support for Family Tree Maker > Version 16 and earlier > http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ > > Version 2008 - 2011 > http://ftm.custhelp.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Bob: I am with Linda. I have probably the same HP netbook (HP Mini 1103). This summer (before FTM 2012) I took it all over France at the various archives and was VERY satisfied. I have 15 thousand people but no media attached. With a 250MB hard disk I have all my sources as either JPG or PDF and plenty of room to have full version of MS Office 10, SKYPE and other simple graphic editing. It is slow booting up with only 1G of memory but will last at least 6 hours if I do not turn on the WIFI (which is seldom available at the archives). The ability to read my camera SD card and download pictures of documents was a tremendous plus. I have relegated my 5 year old laptop to my desk and I no longer carry my recharge cord (brick) to the archives. I do run Windows 7 Starter Service pack 1 Pierre M Hahn, San Francisco pierre1928@gmail.com

Carol, I cannot answer your questions but Tony is correct, FTM requires an OS whether it be for Windows or MAC. Perhaps you are confused with the Ancestry APP? In reference to your comment regarding FTM 2012, while the sync feature is the main new feature for this upgrade, I would like to make it clear that ONLY the user elects to Sync a tree so you can certainly use FTM 2012 without syncing to Ancestry and benefit from the other new features and any performance enhancements. Linda in Costa Rica Monroe County, New York Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys Monroe County, New York History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys -----Original Message----- From: Family History Sent: Saturday, 15 October, 2011 2:30 PM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: [FTM-TECH] Mac FTM for iPad using Win7 FTM2011 Have a question for those tech gurus: I use Win7 FTM2011 64bit and have an iPad2 32Gb. To purchase FTM Mac thru iTunes is $109.00. I already own a copy of FTM Mac but.. 1. How does one use the FTM Mac product on the iPad without it impacting Win7 FTM 2. Does the version of FTM Mac thru iTunes have a special app built in that allows transfer thru to iPad as I don't run a Mac at home. 3. What footprint is needed on the iPad 4. Will the migration tool for FTM windows work well enough to get my data and media on the iPad if I can use the Mac FTM on iPad 5. Does anyone know if FTM are going to bring out an app that will bring the data from a Win pc to iPad without re-purchasing full version of software. 6. I do NOT want to move to 2012 to synch to Ancestry as I do not keep my tree on Ancestry! Hoping someone can answer some of these questions. Regards Carol

Bob, I am glad that the information I was able to provide was of help! Linda in Costa Rica Monroe County, New York Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys Monroe County, New York History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys -----Original Message----- From: Bob Sangster Sent: Saturday, 15 October, 2011 2:28 PM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] What product is best? Linda, A big thank you. Your answer just about sums up what I was asking advise about. The points about RAM and which version of Windows to use was handy, and I had never thought about the keyboard aspect. I find using a 'screen keyboard' un-comfortable to use, and forgot all about that aspect. In short: A 10/12 inch netbook with 2gb ram, and Windows Home Premium looks a good possibility. As too which make, well that 'could' depend on good old Father Christmas, and yes, I still believe even though retired, me that is. 8>)) It costs nothing to ask, but can save more than cash when answered, so, again, a big thank you. Enjoy Life. Never promise, but will always try. Regards, Bob Sangster -----Original Message----- From: Linda H Gutierrez <lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr> To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 21:05 Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] What product is best? Bob, My recommendation, based on what you do and do not want would be a netbook or mini laptop, 10-12 inches in size, they are small and easy to store, have the Windows OS and will run FTM - including the latest version - on them. I have a 10 inch mini that came with Windows 7 Basic and 1 GB of RAM. It is quite sufficient for going online, the screen size certainly smaller but easy enough to work with and for simple tasks. I ended up upgrading it to Windows Home Premium because I did not like the limitations of the Basic version, although it functions well enough. But I did not upgrade the RAM (as of yet) and I am paying for that! If you plan to run FTM 2012 on it you would be happier with 2 GB of RAM. It works fine, but is SLOW!! I have installed all of my important programs such as MS Office, FTM, DTP software and a few others. Of course the more you install, the slower the performance, boot up time, etc. As I have it set now, the battery lasts a good 4 hours. If I were to remove some things, including the upgrade to Home Premium and lower the power settings it would last up to at least 6 hours. The one I have is put out by HP but of course there are several other brands to choose from. The nice thing about HP (not sure about the other brands) is that it comes with HP's own software that will boot at start-up (you can change it if you want to) and comes up ready to use in less than 30 seconds. You can surf the web and check mail easily with their application or boot to Windows and have more options available. I find the size is great for traveling, especially on an airplane as I can easily set it on the tray to watch a video or view my files or whatever I wish to do. And of course they come with a keyboard as opposed to the virtual type on the tablets now being marketed. I hope that this is of some help in making your decision. Linda in Costa Rica Monroe County, New York Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys Monroe County, New York History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys

Windows * will not be out for another year. As for a NetBook, be very careful as MOST come with Windows 7 Basic and only a GIG of RAM and will not support any more than 1 GIG. Thanks, David C Abernathy Email disclaimers ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message represents the official view of the voices in my head. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.SchmeckAbernathy.com == All outgoing and incoming mail is scanned by F-Prot Antivirus  == -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Okerson Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 1:53 PM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] What product is best? > A big thank you. Your answer just about sums up what I was asking > advise about. The points about RAM and which version of Windows to use was > handy, and I had never thought about the keyboard aspect. I find using a > 'screen keyboard' un-comfortable to use, and forgot all about that aspect. > In short: A 10/12 inch netbook with 2gb ram, and Windows Home Premium > looks a good possibility. As too which make, well that 'could' depend on > good old Father Christmas, and yes, I still believe even though retired, > me that is. 8>)) It costs nothing to ask, but can save more than cash when answered, so, again, a big thank you. Be cautious buying a netbook computer!! While Linda is fully accurate with Windows 7, I urge you to consider the prospect of Windows 8 too. That would require a higher-than-netbook video resolution minimum, as best I know. I can't come across it just this moment, but have seen several suggestions AGAINST a netbook and Windows 8. On the other hand, the ultrabooks that are planned for 2012 and 2013 seemed headed in a fine direction IMHO. OTOH, if your plans would allow for updating a netbook IF and WHEN such a need presents itself, then I have no problem with what you and Linda have in mind. I have run conventional notebook PCs with 3 720K floppy drives even though NOW, my dataset would not fit on a single 720K floppy these days. I do have an i7 equipped notebook, 8 GB of RAM and carry a 64 GB USB 3.0 thumbdrive around with me daily. If your plans are to carry a copy of your file and NOT make ANY edits in the file, then a netbook could work for the near term. Just my two cents worth! John Okerson from Memphis, TN ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Further to my earlier post re. FTM on a portable unit, one reply mentioned using the 'Sync' facility within FTM2012, and that makes me ask another question: My file (to date), includes 2000 + scans etc of Census/Church records/Cert's etc. Now does that mean I have to up-load my file including images, or is it possible to upload my file 'without' images? I have FTM 2012, but have not yet installed it, so before I do, this question could make me decide wether to use the 'sync' facility on installation. Enjoy Life. Never promise, but will always try. Regards, Bob Sangster

> A big thank you. Your answer just about sums up what I was asking > advise about. The points about RAM and which version of Windows to use was > handy, and I had never thought about the keyboard aspect. I find using a > 'screen keyboard' un-comfortable to use, and forgot all about that aspect. > In short: A 10/12 inch netbook with 2gb ram, and Windows Home Premium > looks a good possibility. As too which make, well that 'could' depend on > good old Father Christmas, and yes, I still believe even though retired, > me that is. 8>)) It costs nothing to ask, but can save more than cash when answered, so, again, a big thank you. Be cautious buying a netbook computer!! While Linda is fully accurate with Windows 7, I urge you to consider the prospect of Windows 8 too. That would require a higher-than-netbook video resolution minimum, as best I know. I can't come across it just this moment, but have seen several suggestions AGAINST a netbook and Windows 8. On the other hand, the ultrabooks that are planned for 2012 and 2013 seemed headed in a fine direction IMHO. OTOH, if your plans would allow for updating a netbook IF and WHEN such a need presents itself, then I have no problem with what you and Linda have in mind. I have run conventional notebook PCs with 3 720K floppy drives even though NOW, my dataset would not fit on a single 720K floppy these days. I do have an i7 equipped notebook, 8 GB of RAM and carry a 64 GB USB 3.0 thumbdrive around with me daily. If your plans are to carry a copy of your file and NOT make ANY edits in the file, then a netbook could work for the near term. Just my two cents worth! John Okerson from Memphis, TN

Having a copy of your FTM file not of much use, unless you have access to FTM the program it's self. Thanks, David C Abernathy Email disclaimers ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message represents the official view of the voices in my head. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.SchmeckAbernathy.com == All outgoing and incoming mail is scanned by F-Prot Antivirus  == -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bob Sangster Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 12:50 PM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] What product is best? Hello David, Thank you for your ideas, but that is part of my del ma. My file has 2,000 + media connected to it, as I include all copies of proof connected to the fact. I was planning to just be able to 'carry a copy' of my file on the device, and could not garantee network access at all centres. Enjoy life. Never promise, but will always try. Regards, Bob Sangster -----Original Message----- From: David C Abernathy <davidabernathy1@comcast.net> To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 20:28 Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] What product is best? Now that FTM 2012is out, all one needs to do is upload their FTM file to Ancetsry.com trees. Then all one needs to have is access to the internet. This can be by any computer or other device that supports access to Ancestry.com trees. The file can be made "Private" so that ONLY you the "Author" has access and/or you and those that YOU give permission to. I would hope that you do NOT have a lot of images within your FTM file as the will reduce the performance on the online upload. Thanks, David C Abernathy Email disclaimers ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello David, Thank you for your ideas, but that is part of my del ma. My file has 2,000 + media connected to it, as I include all copies of proof connected to the fact. I was planning to just be able to 'carry a copy' of my file on the device, and could not garantee network access at all centres. Enjoy life. Never promise, but will always try. Regards, Bob Sangster -----Original Message----- From: David C Abernathy <davidabernathy1@comcast.net> To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 20:28 Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] What product is best? Now that FTM 2012is out, all one needs to do is upload their FTM file to Ancetsry.com trees. Then all one needs to have is access to the internet. This can be by any computer or other device that supports access to Ancestry.com trees. The file can be made "Private" so that ONLY you the "Author" has access and/or you and those that YOU give permission to. I would hope that you do NOT have a lot of images within your FTM file as the will reduce the performance on the online upload. Thanks, David C Abernathy Email disclaimers ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

BJ, That's like what my HP netbook has. In fact my new 14" HP laptop also came with it but I elected to not have it boot that way. I would bet that all of the manufacturers are coming out with similar options in preparation for the Tablets they will be marketing. I know for a fact that the HP Tablet that just came out on the market has the same HP "OS" (for lack of a better word or phrase) that both my mini and laptop come with. As I mentioned, it comes up in less than 30 seconds and makes it easy to go online without waiting for Windows to boot and your AV to be ready. Linda in Costa Rica Monroe County, New York Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys Monroe County, New York History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys -----Original Message----- From: BJ Sent: Saturday, 15 October, 2011 3:07 PM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] What product is best? One think you might consider is a Sony Vaio laptop. I don't have one but my son-in-law recently purchase one. One capability it has which I sort of like is the ability to connect to the internet without having to boot Windows. Not sure of the cost or the specs but it is another option. BJ On 10/15/2011 1:52 PM, John Okerson wrote: >> A big thank you. Your answer just about sums up what I was asking >> advise about. The points about RAM and which version of Windows to use >> was >> handy, and I had never thought about the keyboard aspect. I find using a >> 'screen keyboard' un-comfortable to use, and forgot all about that >> aspect. >> In short: A 10/12 inch netbook with 2gb ram, and Windows Home Premium >> looks a good possibility. As too which make, well that 'could' depend on >> good old Father Christmas, and yes, I still believe even though retired, >> me that is. 8>)) > It costs nothing to ask, but can save more than cash when answered, > so, again, a big thank you. > > Be cautious buying a netbook computer!! While Linda is fully accurate > with > Windows 7, I urge you to consider the prospect of Windows 8 too. That > would > require a higher-than-netbook video resolution minimum, as best I know. I > can't come across it just this moment, but have seen several suggestions > AGAINST a netbook and Windows 8. On the other hand, the ultrabooks that > are > planned for 2012 and 2013 seemed headed in a fine direction IMHO. > > OTOH, if your plans would allow for updating a netbook IF and WHEN such a > need presents itself, then I have no problem with what you and Linda have > in > mind. I have run conventional notebook PCs with 3 720K floppy drives even > though NOW, my dataset would not fit on a single 720K floppy these days. > I > do have an i7 equipped notebook, 8 GB of RAM and carry a 64 GB USB 3.0 > thumbdrive around with me daily. > > If your plans are to carry a copy of your file and NOT make ANY edits in > the > file, then a netbook could work for the near term. Just my two cents > worth!

Let us know if you get any recommendations off list. Thanks, Jerry On Oct 15, 2011, at 2:53 PM, Bob Sangster wrote: > > Hello all, > > Firstly, I live in England, so without being rude, some ideas may not be available in the UK. I am after a portable method of carrying my FTM file around the various 'study centres' during my research travels, and am hoping to pick the brains of those with experience in this. My del ma is: > > 1) I would rather not carry a 15/17 inch laptop with me. > 2) I find smart phone screens too small to use usefully. > 3) Call me old fashioned, but although I admire the likes of the Ipod/Ipad etc, I resent purchasing a product that traps you into one supplier only. I like the freedom of my own choice. > 4) Those of you who no doubt have similar preferences, I hope may be able to guide me in the right direction ie. Notebook, Tablet or other method. > > Basically, I am after long battery life, (5-6 hrs), portability, able to use FTM on the product, readability. Therefore, ideas and thoughts would be appreciated . > > > > Enjoy Life. > Never promise, but will always try. > Regards, > Bob Sangster > > > > > > > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Online Support for Family Tree Maker > Version 16 and earlier > http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ > > Version 2008 - 2011 > http://ftm.custhelp.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry for the confusion Tony... iTunes offer ftm mac for use on the iPad - i don't run a mac pc only windows 7 but do have a copy already of ftm mac. The iPad (by my reckoning) won't be able to cope with a full installation of FTM Mac so how do I untangle what I would assume, is the app component for the iPad to use FTM on the iPad. I was hoping that by getting the app component on the iPad I would be able to export my tree from windows using the migration tool and import that to iTunes/dropbox and get it to synch into the FTM Mac version on the iPad. Does help explain this any easier? Regards Carol   Carol I am a little confused by your description of what you want to do. As a starting point FTM for Mac is a program for Intel based Macs such as the Macbook Pro, iMac Mac Pro etc. It is not an iPad app. Tony -----Original Message----- From: Family History Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 9:30 PM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: [FTM-TECH] Mac FTM for iPad using Win7 FTM2011 Have a question for those tech gurus: I use Win7 FTM2011 64bit and have an iPad2 32Gb.  To purchase FTM Mac thru iTunes is $109.00.  I already own a copy of FTM Mac but.. 1.  How does one use the FTM Mac product on the iPad without it impacting Win7 FTM 2.  Does the version of FTM Mac thru iTunes have a special app built in that allows transfer thru to iPad as I don't run a Mac at home. 3.  What footprint is needed on the iPad 4.  Will the migration tool for FTM windows work well enough to get my data and media on the iPad if I can use the Mac FTM on iPad 5.  Does anyone know if FTM are going to bring out an app that will bring the data from a Win pc to iPad without re-purchasing full version of software. 6.  I do NOT want to move to 2012 to synch to Ancestry as I do not keep my tree on Ancestry! Hoping someone can answer some of these questions. Regards Carol ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello all, Firstly, I live in England, so without being rude, some ideas may not be available in the UK. I am after a portable method of carrying my FTM file around the various 'study centres' during my research travels, and am hoping to pick the brains of those with experience in this. My del ma is: 1) I would rather not carry a 15/17 inch laptop with me. 2) I find smart phone screens too small to use usefully. 3) Call me old fashioned, but although I admire the likes of the Ipod/Ipad etc, I resent purchasing a product that traps you into one supplier only. I like the freedom of my own choice. 4) Those of you who no doubt have similar preferences, I hope may be able to guide me in the right direction ie. Notebook, Tablet or other method. Basically, I am after long battery life, (5-6 hrs), portability, able to use FTM on the product, readability. Therefore, ideas and thoughts would be appreciated . Enjoy Life. Never promise, but will always try. Regards, Bob Sangster